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Offline knightofthegarter

I occasionally enjoy receiving WS. I don't really try to get it in my mouth but I'm not squeamish and sometimes some goes in before I spit it out. It tastes nothing like female ejaculate, which as Ali Katt says, is a very sweet flavour. So much of the so called science on this seems like bullshit. How exactly are they getting these women to orgasm and how can they guarantee that they are of the same quality as in a normal setting ? It seems far more plausible that some women (probably with very active Skene glands), are able to orgasm in this way with the right stimulation. It probably serves a useful function in terms of reproductive biology in the sense that the additional fluid could act as a lubricant to further facilitate deep penetration and increase the odds of impregnation. After all, leaving orgasms aside, this is the biological reason for women getting wet, is it that surprising that an orgasm might increase this effect in some women under the right circumstances ? Even the urine theorists admit the Skene glands have something to do with squirting.

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 If everyone enjoys it and gets off on it does it really matter if the squirt contains urine ....   
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I occasionally enjoy receiving WS. I don't really try to get it in my mouth but I'm not squeamish and sometimes some goes in before I spit it out. It tastes nothing like female ejaculate, which as Ali Katt says, is a very sweet flavour. So much of the so called science on this seems like bullshit. How exactly are they getting these women to orgasm and how can they guarantee that they are of the same quality as in a normal setting ? It seems far more plausible that some women (probably with very active Skene glands), are able to orgasm in this way with the right stimulation. It probably serves a useful function in terms of reproductive biology in the sense that the additional fluid could act as a lubricant to further facilitate deep penetration and increase the odds of impregnation. After all, leaving orgasms aside, this is the biological reason for women getting wet, is it that surprising that an orgasm might increase this effect in some women under the right circumstances ? Even the urine theorists admit the Skene glands have something to do with squirting.
I know fuck all about skene glands. But I do know I've never been able to fully swallow a girl's squirt, yet I sometimes have a snowy with my spunk as a treat, work that one out. Squirting is also cut from porn films in the UK for DVD or digital release if it has a BBFC certificate they call it urolagnia and as has been said they class it as piss. I can't explain better than that, but it is fucking weird, but they cut films if say a woman has a gun inserted into her arse.

Offline peter purves

If everyone enjoys it and gets off on it does it really matter if the squirt contains urine ....

In the context of the conversation we are having it does matter, since the WG could be faking it and it goes back to my point that practising sex on WGs is not necessarily a good recipe to becoming a good lover IMHO.
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Offline peter purves

Talk to girls a lot will tell you a squirting orgasm feels different to a normal one.

"As many other women will testify, orgasm doesn’t always lead to squirting, although the lead scientist of the ultrasound study believes every woman is capable of squirting"

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Offline JonasG

Judging by the SAAFE forum, most punters are shit at this.

Offline JonasG

The 'alphabet' technique has always puzzled me. It seems to be one of those urban myths that gets passed on all over the internet whenever this topic arises. Love to know how it started?

Its a very ineffective technique with zero chance of producing an orgasm for the majority of women.

Yep.

It's utter nonsense.

Offline sparkus

Judging by the SAAFE forum, most punters are shit at this.

In some cases (and maybe because I am shit at it) but WGs have either rubbed their clit or inserted a digit inside themselves right at the magic moment.  Only a handful (no pun intended) have got over the line by my efforts alone.

Offline Doc Holliday

Judging by the SAAFE forum, most punters are shit at this.

Even allowing for the frequent jaundiced view of many posters on SAAFE, the reality is that statement is broadly true.

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Even allowing for the frequent jaundiced view of many posters on SAAFE, the reality is that statement is broadly true.
The reality is somewhere in the middle.

Offline Doc Holliday

The reality is somewhere in the middle.

 :D I think we will just have to beg to differ.

I know fuck all about skene glands.

TBH the experts are also not that much wiser and this subject has been debated for many moons and still polarises opinion amongst the medical profession and researchers ... will likely always be inconclusive?

... the lead scientist of the ultrasound study believes every woman is capable of squirting"

My personal experience would support this view.

It's all through the same pipes some traces will happen.

There is no mistaking the taste of urine.

Exactly and therein lies the problem.

At the risk of sounding even sadder than I normally do, I've done my own personal experiments with 'taste' and colour tests and full bladder/empty bladder scenarios and I'm still unsure with regard to composition? It is not just urine though. I obviously don't have the benefit of laboratory analysis of samples  :)

However in general terms a full bladder is to be avoided as there is a higher probability of increased urine content.

Porn has a lot to answer for both in terms of faking (including just out and out urinating) and making mostly men obsessed with achieving it.

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In some cases (and maybe because I am shit at it) but WGs have either rubbed their clit or inserted a digit inside themselves right at the magic moment.  Only a handful (no pun intended) have got over the line by my efforts alone.

This is a very good point and also the same for me when cumming. I have found most WGs cumbersome in how they handle my delicate petal  :rose:  :( :P
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Porn has a lot to answer for both in terms of faking (including just out and out urinating) and making mostly men obsessed with achieving it.
I couldn't care less to be honest. I've made a few women squirt, it's a novelty, but not essential for me. Back to porn as well, many men seem to think fucking non-stop for hours constitutes good sex. I think I've less stamina than when I was in my teens, but no doubt my technique has improved greatly.

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Back to porn as well, many men seem to think fucking non-stop for hours constitutes good sex. I think I've less stamina than when I was in my teens, but no doubt my technique has improved greatly.

I think we can agree on that one  ;)

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I didn't know we had fucked?  :D

I clearly wasn't that memorable then  :( .. I was sure you did a review as well?

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I clearly wasn't that memorable then  :( .. I was sure you did a review as well?
I didn't want to hurt your feelings. The kissing wasn't that good, boys like a bit of romance you know.

Offline workinallweek

In the context of the conversation we are having it does matter, since the WG could be faking it and it goes back to my point that practising sex on WGs is not necessarily a good recipe to becoming a good lover IMHO.

err  if both parties enjoy it  i didnt say one fakes it    whatever .
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Offline peter purves

err  if both parties enjoy it  i didnt say one fakes it    whatever .

No! I was just clarifying a position to the OP in particular.

In response to TS comment, the OP asked her:

if I want to gain more experience and get better at RO do you think I should visit WG's?

To which I interjected

...If I may, thanks  :P

This is a difficult one because in my opinion I think you probably become a better lover in the real civvy world than the pretence world of punting and the same with oral. Notwithstanding that some civvy women are not sexually pro-active. Though there are exceptions to the above



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Since my long tongue (I can pick my nose with it) is much more impressive than my decidedly average cock I tend to be theatrical and aggressive, rabidly running my fully extended tongue up and down from her pussy to her anus, spreading her wide open with my hands and trying to "dive" inside with my whole face- tongue first, spitting noisily in her pussy (always gets a reaction) and if all this still hasn't got her kicking me violently off in horror, sucking her clit hard and deep and letting the suction go noisily, again and again. Not many working girls actively enjoy this treatment, but civvies always certainly do, so why shouldn't a whore?

It also reassures any insecurities I might have that eating pussy makes me a fruitcake (damn you Sopranos!)

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My technique involves keeping my face away from the pussy at all times  :vomit:  :D

I think the last time I actually did RO (out of curiosity and politeness :D) was 2015. It was awful.

I’m similar. That shit has to be fresh out of the shower if I bother.

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I’m similar. That shit has to be fresh out of the shower if I bother.
You boys are so missing out on one of life’s absolute treats   :unknown:

Offline stampjones

Yes it's total bullshit. It's up there with smoking banana peel is mild hallucinogenic and jelqing makes your dick bigger.
Me and some mates desperately tried to get banana peel to work in our teens when there was a supply issue with the greens. I can confirm after trying for waaay too long that it doesnt work even slightly  :wacko:

Offline hendrix

You boys are so missing out on one of life’s absolute treats   :unknown:

I really don't feel that way. I've tried it several times but I get no pleasure from it, so it seems like a waste of time/money. It's not a question of being squeamish or anything, my regs are squeaky clean, but I just don't see the point :unknown:

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:D I think we will just have to beg to differ.

TBH the experts are also not that much wiser and this subject has been debated for many moons and still polarises opinion amongst the medical profession and researchers ... will likely always be inconclusive?

My personal experience would support this view.

Exactly and therein lies the problem.

At the risk of sounding even sadder than I normally do, I've done my own personal experiments with 'taste' and colour tests and full bladder/empty bladder scenarios and I'm still unsure with regard to composition? It is not just urine though. I obviously don't have the benefit of laboratory analysis of samples  :)

However in general terms a full bladder is to be avoided as there is a higher probability of increased urine content.

Porn has a lot to answer for both in terms of faking (including just out and out urinating) and making mostly men obsessed with achieving it.

The science around female anatomy is well behind men's. Women's sexual and reproductive systems are poorly funded in research. The only reason we know what the citoral complex looks like is because the doctor (a genital reconstruction specialist for FGM) funding it himself (Dr. Pierre Foldès is a hero and his work also firmly established a 'G-spot' does exist in all women) to better their work.

Now, take into mind this was 2009 (1998 for a rough one). I'll say that again, 2009 we finally had accurate imaging of the clitoral structure. Conversely, when did we have accurate imaging of male reproductive systems being done? The 80's onwards. This is mostly as science until fairly recently has been based around white men, only in the last 15 years has science woken up to how fit white men, 20 to 35 are not typical to the general population. It's why a lot of drugs and such are being retested. But women's sexual health is still lagging.

Only a few studies have been done on squirting. Everyone likes to point out one study that used 7 women, two of which claimed squirting but was identical to their urine. But no one notices the other 5. They also fail to note the problems with the imaging methodology.

Pee to empty the bladder. Then masturbate. Stop and get imaged, with no mention of how long this took on average. Then continue masturbating to orgasm. The same isn't and hasn't been done on men, and that change should be noted.

They also didn't control for hydration levels. Someone who drinks less water will have more cystalised urine in the pipes. Or diet. High salt or fat content will change things.

It's the same with men's spunk, the less hydrated they are the more bitter it tastes. The higher salt, fault, or red meat in their diet the more it impacts on taste.

Porn is almost always straight up urinating, women down a lot of water before starting squirting including vids.

I will also say, I don't think every woman can squirt. The same way I don't think every woman can orgasm from vaginal only/anal only stimulation. The same way some men can't orgasm from oral/vaginal/anal penetration, can't orgasm with anal stimulation. Part of it may be trained (death grip is true for both men and women), but also sensitivities vary.

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Only a few studies have been done on squirting. Everyone likes to point out one study that used 7 women, two of which claimed squirting but was identical to their urine. But no one notices the other 5. They also fail to note the problems with the imaging methodology.

Pee to empty the bladder. Then masturbate. Stop and get imaged, with no mention of how long this took on average. Then continue masturbating to orgasm. The same isn't and hasn't been done on men, and that change should be noted.

They also didn't control for hydration levels. Someone who drinks less water will have more cystalised urine in the pipes. Or diet. High salt or fat content will change things.

It's the same with men's spunk, the less hydrated they are the more bitter it tastes. The higher salt, fault, or red meat in their diet the more it impacts on taste.


Out of interest do you have access to the scientific paper which is not readily available?

With regard to the above, not every variable can be 'controlled' for in scientific experiments. However, in this instance, one would suspect that all of the subjects would be allocated the same time period, measured for salt intake etc
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You boys are so missing out on one of life’s absolute treats   :unknown:

Was aimed at me. I enjoy it as a lady squirming going insane is great. It just needs to be fresh as fuck like out of the shower for me. My wife who I bang a lot does it. I expect these ladies we drop a few pounds on gentle washes their little cum guzzlers.

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Out of interest do you have access to the scientific paper which is not readily available?

With regard to the above, not every variable can be 'controlled' for in scientific experiments. However, in this instance, one would suspect that all of the subjects would be allocated the same time period, measured for salt intake etc

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That's the study most people quote. No controls for time. Not controls for fluid intake, salt, diet, etc, etc, etc. The only control was that they didn't have gynaecological abnormalities, however they also don't state what those would be to rule them out. The full paper is unfortunately behind a paywall, so you need to be part of a uni or pay for it.

But even their summary before the paywall is misleading. 2 were identical to urine, 3 had traces to some amount of urine, but not the same as piss, 2 had none. Which despite their conclusion, means that we cannot say squirting is just peeing (it is in porn. Working behind the scenes I know that to be true). All you can conclude from the pitifully small sample size is that as many squirt as just pee. But 7 people is not a conclusive study, not even close. Maybe 100 would give some conclusions, but 7? No good scientist would conclude anything solid from that.

It's way too small a sample size. It's barely a preliminary study to work out whether to do a proper a study.

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Since my long tongue (I can pick my nose with it) is much more impressive than my decidedly average cock I tend to be theatrical and aggressive, rabidly running my fully extended tongue up and down from her pussy to her anus, spreading her wide open with my hands and trying to "dive" inside with my whole face- tongue first, spitting noisily in her pussy (always gets a reaction) and if all this still hasn't got her kicking me violently off in horror, sucking her clit hard and deep and letting the suction go noisily, again and again. Not many working girls actively enjoy this treatment, but civvies always certainly do, so why shouldn't a whore?

It also reassures any insecurities I might have that eating pussy makes me a fruitcake (damn you Sopranos!)
That sounds bloody awful.

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That sounds bloody awful.
:lol: :lol: :lol: You were never one to mince your words...

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I will also say, I don't think every woman can squirt. The same way I don't think every woman can orgasm from vaginal only/anal only stimulation. The same way some men can't orgasm from oral/vaginal/anal penetration, can't orgasm with anal stimulation.

I would argue that every woman and man (and assuming no underlying organic disease) has the potential to orgasm by a variety of stimuli, but that some simply don't rather than they cannot. The reasons why they don't are complex and could fill many a book.

In my opinion the same applies to female ejaculation from the urethra as there are no significant anatomical differences between women. It is just that some do and some don't ... but potentially they all could under the right conditions.

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That's the study most people quote. No controls for time. Not controls for fluid intake, salt, diet, etc, etc, etc. The only control was that they didn't have gynaecological abnormalities, however they also don't state what those would be to rule them out. The full paper is unfortunately behind a paywall, so you need to be part of a uni or pay for it.

But even their summary before the paywall is misleading. 2 were identical to urine, 3 had traces to some amount of urine, but not the same as piss, 2 had none. Which despite their conclusion, means that we cannot say squirting is just peeing (it is in porn. Working behind the scenes I know that to be true). All you can conclude from the pitifully small sample size is that as many squirt as just pee. But 7 people is not a conclusive study, not even close. Maybe 100 would give some conclusions, but 7? No good scientist would conclude anything solid from that.

It's way too small a sample size. It's barely a preliminary study to work out whether to do a proper a study.

Thanks! Shame the full article is not available to fully gain an understanding of the 'controls' or should that be the 'lack of control'  :P

Although I agree the sample is small it is nonetheless a groundbreaking study which could lead the way to yet further research. This is how science works as I am sure you know. Notwithstanding it is going to be hard to gain large amounts of a representative sample of the population.
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Thanks! Shame the full article is not available to fully gain an understanding of the 'controls' or should that be the 'lack of control'  :P

Although I agree the sample is small it is nonetheless a groundbreaking study which could lead the way to yet further research. This is how science works as I am sure you know. Notwithstanding it is going to be hard to gain large amounts of a representative sample of the population.

There were no negative controls. No repeats, literally one run for each woman, and no controlling for dietary or liquid intake.

I'd accept it being presented as a panel at a conference. But as a legit paper... The shit stain that is Freud in psychology had more sample points (later studies that built and expanded on Freud's work have some validity. But the guy himself just worked with sexually repressed upper class white venetian women, hardly representative of a population).

Work like this is generally presented at conferences, where colleagues will rip to shreds anything like this. A basic standard control would be to have a woman alongside who matches stats but doesn't stimulate to see what her bladder does as well. Or even just controlling for fluid intake, diet, and more than could all effect results. Plus other medical conditions outside of reproductive ones.

It's a piss poor (pardon the pun) study, 7 samples does not nearly a conclusion make (when only 2 of those 7 backs it up even less so). Especially when you're generalising to 50% of the population.

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I don't have one. I pay them to pleasure me.

Offline bushman

I really don't feel that way. I've tried it several times but I get no pleasure from it, so it seems like a waste of time/money. It's not a question of being squeamish or anything, my regs are squeaky clean, but I just don't see the point :unknown:
I can understand if you don't get anything from it.
In civvie life I feel a desire to taste her, I can almost come by giving oral to a civvie partner. WG's although I still like to taste or sniff them is a different ball game. They need to pleasure me and sometimes giving oral is part of it.