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Offline Metalgear2018

Saw a sp who was on her period but did not tell me. As I removed the condom with my fingers, her blood touch my skin. I washed my hands with soap.

What's the chances of get HIV/sti?

Offline scutty brown

Saw a sp who was on her period but did not tell me. As I removed the condom with my fingers, her blood touch my skin. I washed my hands with soap.

What's the chances of get HIV/sti?

Is your skin broken?
If its not, virtually nil. You stand more chance of catching a disease from stroking your cat or dog

Offline Metalgear2018

Is your skin broken?
If its not, virtually nil. You stand more chance of catching a disease from stroking your cat or dog

When you mean broken. Do you mean cuts? I don't have any cuts.

Offline scutty brown

When you mean broken. Do you mean cuts? I don't have any cuts.

cuts, sores, scabs, friction burns, bite marks

Offline Metalgear2018

cuts, sores, scabs, friction burns, bite marks

Cheers. I will still book an appointment just to be safe.

Offline Dopedj

If you’re worried of catching something this game is not for you.

Offline Metalgear2018

If you’re worried of catching something this game is not for you.

You have zero reviews and you are repeating the same old line "this game is not for you".

Offline Arbetare

If you’re worried of catching something this game is not for you.

I'm concerned about possibly catching something, so I assess risk and seek to mitigate that chance by taking appropriate measures.

It is easy to be worried or concerned and be in the 'game' and still have your fun, and without dealing out tired tropes.

Offline Tricky Dickie

Cheers. I will still book an appointment just to be safe.

Your chances of catching anything are very very low. Try not to be squeamish. That said, getting checkups as a general practice is a good idea. You ought to leave it a couple of weeks though before going along as the tests will be more accurate.

Offline scutty brown

I'm concerned about possibly catching something, so I assess risk and seek to mitigate that chance by taking appropriate measures.

It is easy to be worried or concerned and be in the 'game' and still have your fun, and without dealing out tired tropes.

You won't catch anything from this, especially via the thick skin on your hands.
But a checkup is worthwhile anyway

Offline bushman

A pet hate of mine. If a WG is on her period she should tell the punter.

Offline Arbetare

You won't catch anything from this, especially via the thick skin on your hands.
But a checkup is worthwhile anyway

It was a general reply to Dopey up above, not a specific comment to this situation.

Offline scutty brown

It was a general reply to Dopey up above, not a specific comment to this situation.

Sorry, I got mixed up and thought you were the OP

Offline uncle jessie

You have zero reviews and you are repeating the same old line "this game is not for you".

Just another non contributing Leech at work  :angry: :diablo: :dash: .

Offline Marmalade

Probably a mental health check up and request for an implant of common sense, both would perhaps be more appropriate. ffs.

Online PepeMAGA

bear in mind, its unlikely she has any STIs in the first place, and even less likely you've caught something. should have regular checks anyway though  :hi:

Online Doc Holliday

Probably a mental health check up and request for an implant of common sense, both would perhaps be more appropriate. ffs.

 :lol: :lol: :lol:


Offline Cuntminion

Saw a sp who was on her period but did not tell me. As I removed the condom with my fingers, her blood touch my skin. I washed my hands with soap.

What's the chances of get HIV/sti?

You'll likely be dead by weeks end

Online Blackpool Rock

A pet hate of mine. If a WG is on her period she should tell the punter.
Yeah mine too, girls shouldn't work on their period or at least let punters know in which case he then has a choice to punt or not.
As already mentioned it's unlikely the girl has anything and thick skin with no cuts etc shouldn't be an issue but i'm always wary about wiping yourself down afterwards as your then coming into contact with thinner skin on your bell end.
Whether there is blood or not i'm always conscious to try and wipe from my bell end down to the base rather than base upwards, as for the comment about "this game not being for you", well it's about minimising the risk rather than expecting it to be risk free which we all know it isn't

Offline JamesKW

Cheers. I will still book an appointment just to be safe.

Wouldn't bother yet, GUM always tell me there is a three month gestation period for HIV and two weeks for everything else.

Offline Rochelle

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Wouldn't bother yet, GUM always tell me there is a three month gestation period for HIV and two weeks for everything else.
If you go to a clinic with the 4th gen tests, you can get HIV results with almost 100% accuracy after 4 weeks. It's the standard test for many clinics for a while now. I reckon some people at the GUM don't even know, or some just roll out the three-month line to cover themselves.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2019, 02:08:07 pm by Rochelle »

Offline Strawberry

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If you go to a clinic with the 4th gen tests, you can get HIV results with almost 100% accuracy after 4 weeks. It's the standard test for many clinics for a while now. I reckon some people at the GUM don't even know, or some just roll out the three-month line to cover themselves.

This information on this webpage might be of use;

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For transmission to occur, the HIV in these fluids must get into the bloodstream of an HIV-negative person through a mucous membrane (found in the rectum, vagina, mouth, or tip of the penis); open cuts or sores; or by direct injection.

Regards testing and window times;

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As I understand it HIV is very fragile, struggles to survive outside the body. Blood pressed onto a cut might result in transmission, transmission isn't 100% unless it's a blood transfusion direct.

Skin is a very good barrier, however always ask a professional for proper advice.

The GUM I visit used to have a chart of transmission routes displayed in the consulting room.

Also once again my understanding is the person receiving insertion is more at risk than someone inserting, assuming that the other person in the coupling actually has HIV (or AN Other STI).

Blood in any situation can be startling, it's bright red and I suspect humans are programmed to avoid letting it or touching it as a survival response.

And I'm sorry you've had this shock with subsequent worry.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2019, 02:47:43 pm by Strawberry »

Offline Rochelle

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This information on this webpage might be of use;

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For transmission to occur, the HIV in these fluids must get into the bloodstream of an HIV-negative person through a mucous membrane (found in the rectum, vagina, mouth, or tip of the penis); open cuts or sores; or by direct injection.

Regards testing and window times;

External Link/Members Only

As I understand it HIV is very fragile, struggles to survive outside the body. Blood pressed onto a cut might result in transmission, transmission isn't 100% unless it's a blood transfusion direct.

Skin is a very good barrier, however always ask a professional for proper advice.

The GUM I visit used to have a chart of transmission routes displayed in the consulting room.

Also once again my understanding is the person receiving insertion is more at risk than someone inserting, assuming that the other person in the coupling actually has HIV (or AN Other STI).

Blood in any situation can be startling, it's bright red and I suspect humans are programmed to avoid letting it or touching it as a survival response.

And I'm sorry you've had this shock with subsequent worry.
Nope, of no use to me.

Offline winkywanky

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A combination, or fourth-generation, test looks for both HIV antibodies and antigens. Antigens are foreign substances that cause your immune system to activate. The antigen is part of the virus itself and is present during acute HIV infection (the phase of infection right after people are infected but before they develop antibodies to HIV). Combination tests are now recommended for HIV testing that’s done in labs and are becoming more common in the U.S.
Most, but not all people, will make enough antigens and antibodies for fourth-generation or combination tests to accurately detect infection 2 to 6 weeks (13 to 42 days) after infection.


Probably best not to assume a 4wk wait will be definitive.

Offline Rochelle

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From:
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A combination, or fourth-generation, test looks for both HIV antibodies and antigens. Antigens are foreign substances that cause your immune system to activate. The antigen is part of the virus itself and is present during acute HIV infection (the phase of infection right after people are infected but before they develop antibodies to HIV). Combination tests are now recommended for HIV testing that’s done in labs and are becoming more common in the U.S.
Most, but not all people, will make enough antigens and antibodies for fourth-generation or combination tests to accurately detect infection 2 to 6 weeks (13 to 42 days) after infection.


Probably best not to assume a 4wk wait will be definitive.
I've read enough to know that 4 weeks will be accurate in almost all cases. I've read many, many different websites, and I spoke to a doctor recently when I did my last tests.

Offline winkywanky

Well that's from the USA's National HIV organisation.

I guess it highlights the fact that there's a sliding window of certainty. Within reason, the longer you leave the test, the more certain will be a 'negative'.

Online Doc Holliday

I've read enough to know that 4 weeks will be accurate in almost all cases. I've read many, many different websites, and I spoke to a doctor recently when I did my last tests.

'Almost' is deemed to be around 95% at 28 days with 4th generation test. That is excellent but in medical terms means you can reassure but not be certain.

I reckon some people at the GUM don't even know, or some just roll out the three-month line to cover themselves.

Rubbish .... all patients who test negative at 28 days are advised to retest at 12 weeks to exclude the 5% .. nothing to do with covering themselves. There are often variations in advice given by healthcare personnel at GUM clinics, but implying they do not understand how a 4th generation test works is nonsense.

Offline winkywanky

That makes sense.

If someone were to test positive after the 4 weeks then at least they get certainty of the positive at the earliest opportunity, and they can start to deal with it/get treatment asap which is beneficial with HIV.

And for those that test negative after 4 weeks, they'll get a degree of reassurance but know to stay safe until a later, 100% definitive test.

Offline Rochelle

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'Almost' is deemed to be around 95% at 28 days with 4th generation test. That is excellent but in medical terms means you can reassure but not be certain.

Rubbish .... all patients who test negative at 28 days are advised to retest at 12 weeks to exclude the 5% .. nothing to do with covering themselves. There are often variations in advice given by healthcare personnel at GUM clinics, but implying they do not understand how a 4th generation test works is nonsense.
Many don't know that almost all can be detected at 4 weeks. Implying that some don't understand is not nonsense.
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Offline Strawberry

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'Almost' is deemed to be around 95% at 28 days with 4th generation test. That is excellent but in medical terms means you can reassure but not be certain.

Rubbish .... all patients who test negative at 28 days are advised to retest at 12 weeks to exclude the 5% .. nothing to do with covering themselves. There are often variations in advice given by healthcare personnel at GUM clinics, but implying they do not understand how a 4th generation test works is nonsense.

I'm guessing that if I am being tested on a rolling basis every 6-12 weeks, that they don't see a need to read that advice out to me? It is a while since I had a discussion about testing windows but I do think they mention a 14 day window for other STIs. I know none of it's accurate to the day, or probably even the week but because it's always a routine full screen plus they are usually rushing there's a lot to take in. My main concern is that I don't leave without them taking oral swabs, they often forget if I don't mention this and I have had to turn back or make arrangements to return later the same day or week. Bloods are always taken as well as vaginal, and the last time anal to cover oral dribbles. I think when I last asked about testing accuracy for HIV it was indicated 'Can be reliable at shorter time spans, but have to retest to cover the handful of percent which are not'.

Generally if you think you have been exposed shouldn't first course of action be heading to the GUM for this advice?
« Last Edit: July 15, 2019, 05:39:48 pm by Strawberry »

Online Doc Holliday

Many don't know that almost all can be detected at 4 weeks. Implying that some don't understand is not nonsense.

Implying that a GUM clinic medic in 2019 doesn’t know the score with a 4th generation HIV test is a little akin to a driving instructor not knowing the traffic light sequence.

Do you speak from personal experience or anecdotally from others?



Online Doc Holliday

I'm guessing that if I am being tested on a rolling basis every 6-12 weeks, that they don't see a need to read that advice out to me? It is a while since I had a discussion about testing windows but I do think they mention a 14 day window for other STIs. I know none of it's accurate to the day, or probably even the week but because it's always a routine full screen plus they are usually rushing there's a lot to take in. My main concern is that I don't leave without them taking oral swabs, they often forget if I don't mention this and I have had to turn back or make arrangements to return later the same day or week. Bloods are always taken as well as vaginal, and the last time anal to cover oral dribbles. I think when I last asked about testing accuracy for HIV it was indicated 'Can be reliable at shorter time spans, but have to retest to cover the handful of percent which are not'.


Yes because you are on a regular testing cycle you will know that on the day of your blood tests you were 100% HIV negative 3 months prior to that date and probably negative 1 month before.
If the day after your tests you attended because of an incident which raised your risk status to high, they may then test you for HIV in around 28 days from that day and if negative once again in 3 months from the incident for complete certainty.

There is now a 5th generation test which is available privately which claims to be nearer 99% accurate at 28 days. To my knowledge NHS clinics are still using 4th generation but I am happy to be advised otherwise?

Offline seeker

If you’re worried of catching something this game is not for you.
That's a twatish reply .
We would all be worried about catching a std...
But calculate risk :bomb: v reward  :yahoo:

Offline LLPunting

You have zero reviews and you are repeating the same old line "this game is not for you".

You're a "veteran" yet asking a freaking naive question.  There are a multitude of authoritative medical websites you could have referred to rather than ask a bunch of anonymous reprobates.  There are also more than a few threads on this site that have already discussed this ad infinitum.

Offline Marmalade

Check ups from time to time are probably sensible for any person, same as having your blood pressure or other things checked. For a WG it’s just good working practice, reassuring for her and her clients, although I suspect that the incidence of stds is probably higher among British civvies that British escorts (ie typically AW WGs as opposed to SWs or certain classes of girls pimped by men of a nationality we are not allowed to mention).

But there are responsible habits and irrational worry. I recall a Japanese agony aunt column when I was there a few years ago. A Japanese woman wrote that she had touch the hand rail on a bus that had just been held by a foreigner, and asked if she should be tested for hiv. Yep. They were that phobic!

When a risk is less than 0.1% then getting a check up is fairly nominal. Here’s a standard guidance form with statistics for health care workers. These people are commonly exposed so make things a habit anyway, even when there’s hardly any risk.

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The consensus of opinion is that fluid-to-fluid (even dried blood) contact is necessary for there to be even a chance of infection. Paper cuts, cuts that have scabbed over don’t count. If I touched a bloodied condom I’d wash my hands afterwards, but mainly because I’d wash my hands anyway. I don’t particularly rub it all over my hands first.

Just follow normal common sense hygiene. There’s a psychological complaint of irrational fear of hiv exposure so don’t fall into that trap. If you’ve had dangerous exposure such as bareback or punting when you shouldn’t be, then wise up! Otherwise get checked at normal intervals, as you would for anything else. Just my opinion, but you’ll find it borne out in medical data so do some googling if you like, but most essentially, get over any panic reaction (which stops rational thought) then move on, undertaking any sensible measures if needs be or new habits with a greater sense of assurance and freedom from worry.