Viagra / Cialis (Tadalafil) - Discussion Thread

[AnthG]

An hour sounds about right to me despite what Anth has been told to the contrary. 

The Jelly claims they will work in 15 mins. But you are right as I looked on the interenet and it suggests to take Viagra one hour before sex. I am not sure why my GP and the Asda Pharmacist said 2 hrs to me for. I started this topic in the hope of collating and being a definitive guide to these tablets so just relayed what I was told. So its good that you guys have corrected it that its only 1hr. Maybe the GP was wanting to say 2hrs just to make absolute sure it was working so I did not get downhearted if I was trying to have sex after an hour and it was not working for me as it took slightly longer than 1hr.

At his age, AnthG does not need Cialis, Viagra or any generic equivalent. What he clearly needs is placebo, which may be which his GP agreed to prescribe it.

I did not want something as strong as Viagra. I did not go to the GP expecting to get Viagra. I went to see what my options were and unfortunately I found they were Viagra or Cialis. The problem is I am generally a nervous person and it gets to be seriously embarrassing as it takes so long to get things usable during a booking. And this is embarrassing to admit on a forum. But it is 100x more embarrassing when alone in the room with the girl. They say its not an issue. But you can see from the tone of their voice they are getting sick and tired. I then constantly feel the need to say "its not you i just get nervous". And if I keep saying it then it implies it really is you that I am saying so its all a vicious circle.

Also the GP will not prescribe a Placebo as that will entail the pharmacist giving a false prescription too. What I actually have is a box of Cialis and two sheets of push through film tablet sachets. Not just a standard medicine bottle with a label on. The stuff is rubbish though. I am expecting the Jelly to come tomorrow which I hope is better than this.

What AnthG needs is a life outside this forum

Do you honestly think I do not know this. Its not like a person can go to Morrison's and buy a box of "life". This is one of the reasons I try to be friendly and polite to everyone as you never know who it could be beneficial to do so.

There was an escort I planned on asking to see the new James Bond movie even though I know what the answer will be a definite no anyway. But on the very day I was going to she has left the escorting scene for a while for personal reasons. And if its for the reason she told me in a booking a few weeks back she will be out of the scene for up to 6 weeks.

I have been temporarily needing to take time off work myself for the last few weeks (long and not needed to be explained story) which I am hoping for a return soon. Hopefully some time this week or early next.

[Jimmyredcab]

Anth, can I give you a bit of advice ------ bearing in mind that I have been round the block more times than my cab.
Extract yourself from this sordid world of prostitutes before it's too late, you are still young enough to find a nice young girlfriend who actually likes you rather than pro$$ies who just like the contents of your wallet.
I am an old man, my pulling days are distant history, the only way I will get a pretty 21 year old is to pay.

[Joe Blob]

Anth, can I give you a bit of advice ------ bearing in mind that I have been round the block more times than my cab.
Extract yourself from this sordid world of prostitutes before it's too late, you are still young enough to find a nice young girlfriend who actually likes you rather than pro$$ies who just like the contents of your wallet.
I am an old man, my pulling days are distant history, the only way I will get a pretty 21 year old is to pay.

What he said

[JohnShaft]

Do you honestly think I do not know this. Its not like a person can go to Morrison's and buy a box of "life". This is one of the reasons I try to be friendly and polite to everyone as you never know who it could be beneficial to do so.

As an alternative, try External Link/Members Only and External Link/Members Only. 

[AnthG]

I got a confirmation e-mail and an update to say they were dispatched but this was in March.  Anth  - let us know if they are still as efficient in e-mailing and dispatching.  I will need to re-order at some point 

Thought I would give a brief update.

As you know ordered these on Monday using the premium next day before 1pm Special Delivery service. I got the confirmation of dispatch on the Monday night at 6.18pm.

Its now 2.15pm (Wednesday) and no delivery. What is more annoying is they said if you use the Premium Special Delivery service they will give you a parcel tracking code to check the status with the delivery service and its nowhere to be seen.

*Edit* And what is worse the two telephone numbers on the top of the website - 02071932867 and also 07583324918 are getting a firstly "the number you have dialled as not been recognised", and the mobile, "the person you are calling is not available at the moment" messages.

[Sailormack]

The Jelly claims they will work in 15 mins. But you are right as I looked on the interenet and it suggests to take Viagra one hour before sex. I am not sure why my GP and the Asda Pharmacist said 2 hrs to me for.

Maybe they know that the first hour of your booking will be talking and eating cakes 

[Sailormack]

On a serious note Anth, I would echo what JRC said.

You are still young and you really need to have some life other than punting. Why not spend some time improving yourself, join a gym or a yoga class, amdram or something where you might meet some women.

Sort out your clobber, get a decent haircut and hit up a few bars.Your life could really change for the better but you need to put in the effort. Punting is great and it can give you access to women that you might never meet and shag.

But mate, seriously there is more to life than punting and life's rich tapestry is something that you should be enjoying.

You don't want to look back in 40 years time at your life with regret.

The time is now....live it and enjoy it 

[AnthG]

hit up a few bars.

Thanks SM. Just to clarify. When you say hit up a few bars do you mean by myself?

On the other note. Its now 4.21pm and no delivery. I have sent them an email asking for my tracking number as accoring to their Special Delivery FAQ response I definitely should have received it by now.

[Jimmyredcab]

Thanks SM. Just to clarify. When you say hit up a few bars do you mean by myself?

That is not ideal, most girls go out in groups, maybe dating sites would be more productive ---------- not something I would do because of my advancing years, I have zero interest in womem my own age.   

[Sailormack]

Hey Anth

You must have at least one pal you coud hit the town with. 

Alternatively make a point of joining something where there are women... gym, yoga classes, cooking classes or whatever floats your boat, but let me tell you the shyness is all in your head my friend.

I accept that you might find it intimidating at first going into the lion's den where a bunch of women have had a few but let me tell you this would be the best and quickest way to deal with this. So you make a bit of a cnut of yourself but I'll guarantee you if you have the balls to walk up to a group of women alone and interact with them it will blow the cobwebs of your shyness. And like any life skill the more you do anything the better you will get at it

The other stuff might be a better way to start for you after all you're there for a reason even if the reality is you want to meet more women.

I think at your age you need to mix up a bit of dating with the punting. Combining the two will probably benefit you no end.

And another thing... who the fcuk needs viagra at 32? 

[daveev]

being 52 i have and still take kamagra, they to give a head ache, so with each half 100 ml tablet i take to paracetamols and 2 ibuprofen, yay that stops the headache and still have the fun, but i pay £25 for 10 kamagra so get like 20 goes so they last a while cos i aint a rich guy

[yumyum3]

the purpose of these tablets is constriction of blood vessels.

I think you'll find it is the opposite; the tablets widen the vessels to let blood flow freely into the penis.

[JohnShaft]

When you say hit up a few bars do you mean by myself?

Perhaps you could search for a group like >External Link/Members Only< in your local area. 

[mh]

I think you'll find it is the opposite; the tablets widen the vessels to let blood flow freely into the penis.

Oh, I had thought it was to keep the blood in the penis and stop it flowing back out! Well whichever way round it works, playing around with the action of blood vessels without a health check is dangerous...

[mofukker]

Perhaps you could search for a group like >External Link/Members Only< in your local area. 

you don't know what weirdos you get in them places, better to go to a bar/ club in the daytime , or just do a course at the local college ,

[SteveNova]

Oh, I had thought it was to keep the blood in the penis and stop it flowing back out! Well whichever way round it works, playing around with the action of blood vessels without a health check is dangerous...

Viagra relaxes the blood vessels so letting blood flow more freely, but more importantly it also blocks an enzyme that naturally causes erections to subside.  So erections continue longer - although only as long as there is stimulation.  A meal high in fat that's still in the stomach can prevent the drug from working at all.

[whiterussian]

On a serious note Anth, I would echo what JRC said.

You are still young and you really need to have some life other than punting. Why not spend some time improving yourself, join a gym or a yoga class, amdram or something where you might meet some women.

Sort out your clobber, get a decent haircut and hit up a few bars.Your life could really change for the better but you need to put in the effort. Punting is great and it can give you access to women that you might never meet and shag.

But mate, seriously there is more to life than punting and life's rich tapestry is something that you should be enjoying.

You don't want to look back in 40 years time at your life with regret.

The time is now....live it and enjoy it 

Absolutely brilliant slice of advice there SM. 
Once you break your duck:(In the words of JRC or some other punting spokesperson)
Its like shooting rats in a barrel.

Ive never taken viagra. i need hardon preventers. Drives me fkn mad sometimes.

[AnthG]

For those curious. Still no delivery. Like I say I took out the premium next day before 1pm service. My email to them has also been totally ignored
 
Best case scenario is I have been downgraded to their bog standard 3 day delivery service; bit of a cheek if so.

Worst case I will need to call my CC company

I have also just now came back from joining DW fitness off peak membership for 6 months as SMs suggestion. Going to go back for my first work out in about hours time. Just wanting to give it till 1pm for them to deliver my stuff today.

[Sailormack]

Go forth  "Anth the Shagger"

 

[Sailormack]

Absolutely brilliant slice of advice there SM. 
Once you break your duck:(In the words of JRC or some other punting spokesperson)
Its like shooting rats in a barrel.

Ive never taken viagra. i need hardon preventers. Drives me fkn mad sometimes.

Fcuk, I would cut my left bollock of with a rusty stanley knife to be 32 again.

But let me tell you my friend, I didn't waste it.

No regrets 

[fabbian von minky]

Here is a tip, bought a dog when i was younger, brown spaniel ,met alot of woman through that dog, walking on your own woman freak out ,with a dog you can strike up a conversation just like that, prob work out cheaper then the skanks on AW, spaniels also have better hygene and are extremely faithful,two qualitys you will struggle to find punting.

[Curious6705]

Here is a tip, bought a dog when i was younger, brown spaniel ,met alot of woman through that dog, walking on your own woman freak out ,with a dog you can strike up a conversation just like that, prob work out cheaper then the skanks on AW, spaniels also have better hygene and are extremely faithful,two qualitys you will struggle to find punting.

A dog will go with whoever feeds them, so in reality quite similar.

[AnthG]

spaniels also have better hygene and are extremely faithful,two qualitys you will struggle to find punting.

So you mean become the male equivalent of a crazy cat lady.

@SM. Was quite pleased I joined that gym. So thanks for that suggestion. Can give a recommendation to DW Gyms also. Not any females there though. But I am considering going to their Yoga or Boxercise classes.

@Everyone who may be interested; On return I now have a second shipping email in my inbox promising delivery by 1pm Friday so I do not know what is going on.

[iName]

so I do not know what is going on.

They're robbing you blind.

[Curious6705]

They're robbing you blind.

Or they've just cocked up the order. In business it's usually a cock up rather than something more sinister.

[SteveNova]

So you mean become the male equivalent of a crazy cat lady.

@SM. Was quite pleased I joined that gym. So thanks for that suggestion. Can give a recommendation to DW Gyms also. Not any females there though. But I am considering going to their Yoga or Boxercise classes.

@Everyone who may be interested; On return I now have a second shipping email in my inbox promising delivery by 1pm Friday so I do not know what is going on.

Sounds like a cock up with them or their courier.  I opted for the free first class Royal Mail delivery and it came next day. 

[anton11]

Anyone tried the Kamagra efferfescent (orange flavoured) if so what are you views?

[yumyum3]

Anyone tried the Kamagra efferfescent (orange flavoured) if so what are you views?

I was utterly Tangoed and so was she

[Cactus]

Great advice from sm & jrc, best bit of advice you've been given though is by the guy who suggested getting a dog.  I don't know about your home life, whether you live alone, whether you can walk it t lunch etc. However I got a dog 3 years ago, great companionship, company and whatnot and an unbelievable way to meet women. I've got a gf, but the amount of women I flirt with over the dog is unreal.  Get a cute one too, spaniel or something like that, women love cute dogs. Puppy training classes would be good too, meet like minded people who you have something in common with.

And if you fancy hitting up some bars, I'm going to be in Newcastle soon for the night, going to see the black keys at the start of December?

[whiterussian]

i love dogs.  no malice in them at all.  They can be a right handful though and if your in an office type 9-5 situation then i would not advise you to get one however small or cute it may be.  The minute they become very un-cute is when you could'nt make it home one lunchtime and a large part of your sofa is in its stomach

[AnthG]

Ok so they have came today. They just came with the regular postman with a need to sign. I took special delivery thinking this will be meaning they will come in the van. The packaging it came in a gray outer special delivery bag - nothing written on it as to what it contains inside. Inside the Royal Mail SD bag it has a second padded sealed envelope containing the stuff. This has nothing written inside of it

So pretty much totally secured and confidential delivery.

They come in boxes of seven flavours and look like the real stuff to me, definitely not looking like any sort of knockoff. There is a holographic seal covering the upper and lower part of the box that you need to break to open the box so this definitely suggests good quality as no way would a counterfitter have the desire to come up with this.

The "jelly" itself is as JRC said just a liquid juice. The label on the back of each doesn't say any of this rubbish about placing it under the tongue it just says open and "consume". Which I just took as drink it.

The consistency is just like cough syrup to be honest. So not in anyway a hard solid substance that needs to dissolve on the tongue as the website states it is.

Have took a quick few photos of it with my ipod touch in the hope it helps out anyone else curious as to what you will get.

I have chucked it into a 2.5ml measuring spoon to both try and to show how easy it will be to take a smaller dose than the full amount.

Overall while the delivery service is terrible. I am quite pleased - but obviously not tried the stuff yet. If anyone is curious about anything else just ask.

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[Joe Blob]

Glad it's arrived Anth, now just relax and enjoy it.

The equivalent of a quarter to a third of a 100mg tablet should give you all the benefits you're looking for without any of the adverse side effects. If you do get any of the side effects mentioned, cut the dose down and you'll be fine.

[softlad]

Have took a quick few photos of it with my ipod touch

Photo's have an A.W. gallery feel to them...

[AnthG]

Photo's have an A.W. gallery feel to them...

Yeah as almost everyone on there also takes their pics with an Iphone.

I have a more decent Fujifilm Finepix camera knocking around somewhere that can take some seriously nice pics but really for the hope of just generally giving an idea the ipod touch was hopefully good enough.

[richard1971]

External Link/Members Only

I'm gonna get my order in before this place gets closed down too

[mh]

They come in boxes of seven flavours and look like the real stuff to me, definitely not looking like any sort of knockoff. There is a holographic seal covering the upper and lower part of the box that you need to break to open the box so this definitely suggests good quality as no way would a counterfitter have the desire to come up with this.

Sorry to break the spell (and I hope you have a genuine item) but please bear in mind that

1) this type of packaging is extremely easy to produce
2) even the holographic seal

In fact you can buy such seals on eBay separately - e.g. External Link/Members Only

But as I say I do hope you have genuine product.

I see it's a one week pack. So 20 servings or so? 

[AnthG]

2) even the holographic seal

The holographic seal is of the word "ajanta". Seems like a lot of trouble for nothing if a knockoff.

The box has medical code down the side which I am not sure if means genuine or not.

CODE No. MH/DRUGS/AD/218-A
B.No. AR0171K
MFD. 11/2011
EXP. 10/2014

[AnthG]

Just for a subject of discussion as this is not really that much of an issue at all for me. Am just curious.

But has anyone ever tried these before?

External Link/Members Only

The main goal of the drug is to delay the process of ejaculation resulting in enhanced sexual pleasures to a man suffering from the problem of pre-ejaculation.

[mh]

The holographic seal is of the word "ajanta". Seems like a lot of trouble for nothing if a knockoff.

It's less likely if it's a "manufacturer" specific seal, but the point is that both the packaging and seals are cheap and easy to reproduce.

I have worked with Indian and Chinese companies of bringing retail products to market. If you have a few thousand pounds you can produce a single run of food products that look exactly like someone elses but contain a different actual product. You can turn a few thousand pounds into tens of thousands by passing it off as another product. Then the next month rip off a different product and it's hard to trace.

[SteveNova]

It's less likely if it's a "manufacturer" specific seal, but the point is that both the packaging and seals are cheap and easy to reproduce.

I have worked with Indian and Chinese companies of bringing retail products to market. If you have a few thousand pounds you can produce a single run of food products that look exactly like someone elses but contain a different actual product. You can turn a few thousand pounds into tens of thousands by passing it off as another product. Then the next month rip off a different product and it's hard to trace.

I'm not sure what 'rip off' means in the context of this thread.  Kamagra is a generic version of Viagra (the brand name for the chemical Sildenafil).  Viagra is protected by patent and doesn't allow the generic drug to be sold, so Kamagra will always be in breach of patent.  Many here have used products from the website Anth has used and I have no reason to doubt it is authentic Sildenafil, as it certainly works.

[mh]

I'm not sure what 'rip off' means in the context of this thread.

I was referring to Anth Believing it was "genuine Kamagra" since the packaging looked authentic. I was pointing out that the packaging looking authentic is absolutely no guarantee that what is within is what you (or the web site selling it) expect it to be. I meant rip off as in a counterfeiter ripping off another manufacturer's product.

Every time a manufacturer comes up with a "thing" to prove the item is genuinely theirs it is replicated by the counterfeiters. After all, often the counterfeit products are produced in the factories making the genuine goods or in a  factory close by owned by someone with links to the official factory.

[SteveNova]

At least the manufacturers are clear that it is Kamagra and not pretending it is Viagra.  The active ingredient is identical in both cases though.  I agree it is piracy, as Viagra hold the patent rights to Sildenafil.  Loads cheaper and more readily accessible though 

[AnthG]

After all, often the counterfeit products are produced in the factories making the genuine goods

But that's a good thing. As long as the stuff doesn't have rat poisen. Or methylalcohol in there I am happy.

For those curious. And I will not get graphic. If I had a choice of Kamagra or Cialis. It would be Kamagra any day of the week

So seriously annoyed I have threw £32 odd down the drain. Do Pharmacists offer refunds as from my box of 4 I only took 1 tablet.

[mh]

I agree it is piracy, as Viagra hold the patent rights to Sildenafil.

You may be agreeing with someone else, but just to be totally clear, I am not commenting at all on whether Kamagra is a rip-off of Viagra and I don't care much - in fact it might keep the price of Viagra under control. I am only commenting on believing that nice authentic packaging is an indicator that the item within the packaging is the product that is expected to be in it.


In many situations in life I'd be quite happy to buy an "equivalent" product to an expensive "original". But when it comes to prescription drugs I'd personally pay for the genuine original!

[mh]

But that's a good thing. As long as the stuff doesn't have rat poisen. Or methylalcohol in there I am happy.

Yes, often items are made in the same factories (though I was really referring to things like Nike trainers and Umbro world cup footballs, not drugs).

But not always the same factories. And special care should be taken with a product such as an unlicensed generic equivalent of a drug developed to treat erectile dysfunction. It's a fertile ground for counterfeiters to push out any old rubbish to make some easy cash - I mean who are you going to complain to?!!

But if this is a trustworthy website that has reliably supplied working meds then fill you boots.

On second thoughts, perhaps you'd better not fill your boots - it may harden the skin on the soles of your feet.

[Cactus]

All well and good Anth and I wish you many a happy stiffy, however have you got the puppy yet? 

[Wayang]

AnthG - you have to realise that faking is a massive trade particularly for EE, SE Asia and Far east economies.  Go to nay street market in any Asian capital and you can buy just about fake anything.

The packaging, the blister packs, the instructions - and the pills - can be manufactured in anyones back garage.

As to knock offs and 'genuine copies' I suspect that even if the drug is correct the dosage control may be weak.  Some people claim that their generics are fake; it my just be that there is not enough  ooomph maker in the pill.

[mofukker]

just to say, youre a young man like me, you previously said its a psychological issue not medical, if i as you i wouldnt take anything , you might get addicted to them, the side effects could be long term , if your gf finds out she might think youre not a real man, and like you said it could be fake so you don't know what you're putting in your body  ,very bad idea
not trying to scare you , just pointing out that you should sort out your psychological problems before you start taking medicine that you don't need

[ncarter]

just to say, youre a young man like me, you previously said its a psychological issue not medical, if i as you i wouldnt take anything , you might get addicted to them, the side effects could be long term , if your gf finds out she might think youre not a real man, and like you said it could be fake so you don't know what you're putting in your body  ,very bad idea
not trying to scare you , just pointing out that you should sort out your psychological problems before you start taking medicine that you don't need

Fully agree with above, reason I stopped after a couple of uses. Quick fixes = Long Term Expensive Problem.

 

[AnthG]

All well and good Anth and I wish you many a happy stiffy, however have you got the puppy yet? 

Honestly speaking while it was probably suggested by the poster in sarcasm it was a good idea and one I am contemplating.

I have always been a dog person and on growing up there was always a dog around the house.