My realization and retirement from punting

[yorkshire123]

So what happens if you find yourself falling for someone on "civvy street" and then you find out that she is/was in fact a prossie? How would you handle that situation?

I know this wasn't directed at me but for what its worth if the situation arose in my life i would dump her as soon as.
Prostitutes are for fucking not dating/marrying.

[socks]

So what happens if you find yourself falling for someone on "civvy street" and then you find out that she is/was in fact a prossie? How would you handle that situation?

Interesting question. I wouldn't be in auto dump mode. I think that in the same way that I argue that a prostitute is just a provider of services in the same way that a plumber or taxi driver is, I wouldn't dump one of those because of the job they do, so I shouldn't for a WG. That's the thinking it through logically me. The challenge I'd find would be the knowledge that she fucks lots of blokes and can I handle it? I know most would probably say no so would end it once they found out. I'm not sure what I'd do, the liberal in me says I'd stick at it, if it was looking like she was the one for me, the geezer says nope couldn't deal wth it.

[Gordo987]

FFS ! Is it just me or could this possibly be a female pulling a fast one and laughing her clit off at the fluffiness of the replies?
Why oh why would anyone post that lot on this site ?

Anyhoo,"then suddenly something bad happened" I'm all fuckin ears !?!

Jay

Either that or its a really ugly bloke who can't get a woman unless he pays for it. Punting isn't for kissing and holding - it for having a good fuck without needing to bother about pleasing the woman, or doing kinky stuff that would probably shock a GF or wife. Like a holiday abroad, you can do things that you can 't do at home

[Rochdull lad]

Interesting question. I wouldn't be in auto dump mode. I think that in the same way that I argue that a prostitute is just a provider of services in the same way that a plumber or taxi driver is, I wouldn't dump one of those because of the job they do, so I shouldn't for a WG. That's the thinking it through logically me. The challenge I'd find would be the knowledge that she fucks lots of blokes and can I handle it? I know most would probably say no so would end it once they found out. I'm not sure what I'd do, the liberal in me says I'd stick at it, if it was looking like she was the one for me, the geezer says nope couldn't deal wth it.

Good answer, imo, socks.  For me, it would depend to an extent on her status at the time I met her.

If she's an ex-Pro$$ie [Adele gave both options], then I'd have no problem about dating her.  If she's still "working", I'd go through many of the same thought processes as you, and for the same "soggy liberal" reasons.  I think the sticking point would come if she cancelled a date at short-ish notice; whatever "reason" she gave you, it'd always be at the back of your mind that she'd got a late booking and that she puts work ahead of the relationship.

[JV547845]

So what happens if you find yourself falling for someone on "civvy street" and then you find out that she is/was in fact a prossie? How would you handle that situation?

I'd give the relationship a go and play it by ear.  You're still spending time with someone you love and probably having better sex than you'd get with a civvy and lots of it.

I've been with a WG who says she gives it up when she has a BF and another who carries on working but just makes it clear to their BF early on.  Fundamentally if I had a GF who was a WG who carried on seeing other clients then I should be able to see other WGs or even `cheat'.  It might work out as an open relationship thing.  It would be weird if she wanted to carry on working and I didn't want to see anyone else.  It's possible though - I've been with a third WG who still shags her ex but he's father to her kids (and fully aware of her job).  I'd hate to be that guy, but I'd potentially be glad at the lack of relationship shit and think: Doesn't matter, had sex.

[Gordo987]

So what happens if you find yourself falling for someone on "civvy street" and then you find out that she is/was in fact a prossie? How would you handle that situation?

Interesting question, but the answer (from my point of view) would depend on how I found out, as well as what I found out. If I really liked her and she told me that she'd done a bit of escorting but had given it up some time ago, I would be a bit shocked but also in admiration of her honesty. However, if one of my mates down at the pub said "that's Anal Alice isn't it? I remember watching her getting spit-roast at Xanadu's before me and three other blokes took turns to fuck her on the pool table" .... well, you see what I mean? 

[jake9jake9]

Damn, at 27 and being able to blow £700, mind me asking what industry are you in?

For all the punts I've done, I hope down the line if I give it up, that I don't regret spending so much money.

[incognitomosquito]

@Ben4454

I've only been punting a short while, but of the lasses I've seen so far, only three have stuck in my mind long after it was over and each one of them made me consider ditching my hobby and consider seeking a relationship.  Oddly enough, those three experiences just so happen to coincide with me not being able to 'keep it up' for very long. 

All the best 

[akauya]

So what happens if you find yourself falling for someone on "civvy street" and then you find out that she is/was in fact a prossie? How would you handle that situation?

Good question. I would probably give the relationship (shit?) a go. I would probably try to work into the equation an open relationship and involve swinging into it. I realised early on that I love variety and it would be great for me not to lead a double life. One where I'm a nice family man and the other a philandering punting bastard.  So, she's fucking lots of men and I'm fucking lots of women. That would definitely work... I think 

[CBPaul]

So what happens if you find yourself falling for someone on "civvy street" and then you find out that she is/was in fact a prossie? How would you handle that situation?

I agree with Yorkshire on this, wouldn't work for me. I might consider it for a while but would come to the conclusion that it's a non-starter.

[Adele Bella]

Lots of similar responses. I don't think the age of the OP is relevant, as you can feel that way at 27 or 57, being able to realise that you want more than just a suck and fuck, and if he is feeling that way with a WG then he definitely needs to take a step back. This is not a situation that love can blossom, as many of you have already said, it's a financial transaction for services rendered. Having fallen into the client/boyfriend trap myself ONCE it's always going to end badly. Never let the lines blur, it's stupid. But also, having said that, I have dated someone who knew what I did, and it remained a topic off limits. I think if it ever got serious I would consider giving up, but only if I knew it was for real. But then again, do you ever really know?

[akauya]

Lots of similar responses. I don't think the age of the OP is relevant, as you can feel that way at 27 or 57, being able to realise that you want more than just a suck and fuck, and if he is feeling that way with a WG then he definitely needs to take a step back. This is not a situation that love can blossom, as many of you have already said, it's a financial transaction for services rendered. Having fallen into the client/boyfriend trap myself ONCE it's always going to end badly. Never let the lines blur, it's stupid. But also, having said that, I have dated someone who knew what I did, and it remained a topic off limits. I think if it ever got serious I would consider giving up, but only if I knew it was for real. But then again, do you ever really know?

Interesting.

And as a bit of an addendum to my post above. I think if I ever became single again (highly unlike but one never knows) I would not date a civvie ever again. I would definitely date a swinger because that lifestyle just suits me to a tee. I think monogamy is overrated and it leads to boredom, lack of respect and feelings of being taken for granted. Couples in a monogamous relationship end up in a situation perfectly described by that saying, familiarity breeds contempt, which obviously kills any sexual desires for each other.

[aerofan5]

Interesting.

And as a bit of an addendum to my post above. I think if I ever became single again (highly unlike but one never knows) I would not date a civvie ever again. I would definitely date a swinger because that lifestyle just suits me to a tee. I think monogamy is overrated and it leads to boredom, lack of respect and feelings of being taken for granted. Couples in a monogamous relationship end up in a situation perfectly described by that saying, familiarity breeds contempt, which obviously kills any sexual desires for each other.

Interesting comments Akauya.

I have had friends who were 'swingers' and who were very enthusiastic about it, frequently trying to get other friends to join them.

Most were car key parties or organised swinging trips away from home rather than the swinging parties that are advertised on the web.

The enthusiasm did not appear to last long, and I had comments such as "We don't do that anymore". No reading between the lines, but I got the impression that the whole deal was not quite what it was made out to be, and my other half had talks with the wives who were involved, who said that they would not do it again.

It could be like punting - you get good and bad, and the bad ones do put you off somewhat.

[jcdmj12]

Interesting comments Akauya.

I have had friends who were 'swingers' and who were very enthusiastic about it, frequently trying to get other friends to join them.

Most were car key parties or organised swinging trips away from home rather than the swinging parties that are advertised on the web.

The enthusiasm did not appear to last long, and I had comments such as "We don't do that anymore". No reading between the lines, but I got the impression that the whole deal was not quite what it was made out to be, and my other half had talks with the wives who were involved, who said that they would not do it again.

It could be like punting - you get good and bad, and the bad ones do put you off somewhat.

Ewwww... creepy. Not the swinger bit, the trying to get your friends involved.   That would be a swift way to stop getting calls returned from me.

[akauya]

Interesting comments Akauya.

I have had friends who were 'swingers' and who were very enthusiastic about it, frequently trying to get other friends to join them.

Most were car key parties or organised swinging trips away from home rather than the swinging parties that are advertised on the web.

The enthusiasm did not appear to last long, and I had comments such as "We don't do that anymore". No reading between the lines, but I got the impression that the whole deal was not quite what it was made out to be, and my other half had talks with the wives who were involved, who said that they would not do it again.

It could be like punting - you get good and bad, and the bad ones do put you off somewhat.

You are right, not everything in the swinging scene is amazing. I had shit moments in swinging with my FB too. It all depends who you meet, there are idiots in all walks of life an swingers are not immune to having some themselves. One thing I've noticed in dating sites is the growing numbers of polyamorous people. Whilst not exactly swingers it's a new way of being able to be married (or in a committed relationship) whilst also having extra marital affairs. It works for some and it doesn't for others. I remember meeting a woman off a dating site once who was poly, her husband was going to come with her to the meet and he did. The three of us had a meal and a chat. Halfway through he said I'm off I'll leave you two alone, etc.

So, there are options out there if one doesn't want to be single and wants an alternative to monogamy.

[jcdmj12]

I don't think you're strange at all. A relationship and sex with a prossie have absolutely nothing in common. I treat prossie s with respect and sometimes you can have a good conversation but only like a conversation I would have with a taxi driver. In fact that's a good way to think of prossies as they get you to destination satisfaction (sometimes). It has absolutely NOTHING to do with love. At 27 and single  there should be alot of free pussy with and without a relationship.

I often feel affection towards WGs when I've had a great time, but I don't ever confuse that with anything more.  To me it's like a drug.  You do it, you feel great, and when you're coming down you feel like you want to do it again to get the nice feelings back. However you have enough sense to know that way madness and destruction lies.  I do sometimes create little fantasies in my head that I'm meeting up with a lover for a tryst, but I'm well aware that's exactly what they are.

[jcdmj12]

You are right, not everything in the swinging scene is amazing. I had shit moments in swinging with my FB too. It all depends who you meet, there are idiots in all walks of life an swingers are not immune to having some themselves. One thing I've noticed in dating sites is the growing numbers of polyamorous people. Whilst not exactly swingers it's a new way of being able to be married (or in a committed relationship) whilst also having extra marital affairs. It works for some and it doesn't for others. I remember meeting a woman off a dating site once who was poly, her husband was going to come with her to the meet and he did. The three of us had a meal and a chat. Halfway through he said I'm off I'll leave you two alone, etc.

So, there are options out there if one doesn't want to be single and wants an alternative to monogamy.

I randomly got chatting to a bloke in a four-way polyamorous relationship on a course I was on.  It sounded like an awful lot of work to manage. 

It's like polygamy.  Great because - four wives.  Terrible because - four wives.

I've come to the conclusion that there is no perfect,easy way to get everything we want in relationships.

[akauya]

I randomly got chatting to a bloke in a four-way polyamorous relationship on a course I was on.  It sounded like an awful lot of work to manage. 

It's like polygamy.  Great because - four wives.  Terrible because - four wives.

I've come to the conclusion that there is no perfect,easy way to get everything we want in relationships.

Indeed. That's why I always call them relationshits  

 

[GreyDave]

Mmm . this has to be a wind up

Its to fluffly 700 quid for me would be about 30 shags in the walk ups thats if I can manage 3 a day 10days of 3 pops I`d be knackerd and the misses would think I was dying

[squeezebox]

Lots of similar responses. I don't think the age of the OP is relevant, as you can feel that way at 27 or 57, being able to realise that you want more than just a suck and fuck, and if he is feeling that way with a WG then he definitely needs to take a step back. This is not a situation that love can blossom, as many of you have already said, it's a financial transaction for services rendered. Having fallen into the client/boyfriend trap myself ONCE it's always going to end badly. Never let the lines blur, it's stupid. But also, having said that, I have dated someone who knew what I did, and it remained a topic off limits. I think if it ever got serious I would consider giving up, but only if I knew it was for real. But then again, do you ever really know?

First highlighted is good advice and should be a punters mantra whenever possible.

Second highlighted, maybe easier said than done. If your partner knew you were a WG before he met you and dated you accordingly, he/she couldn't expect you to stop as your sex work is what you're good...(just guessing there, but sense that's the case).

WG and clients can/do make it work, although it's quite a rarity I should imagine.

[LL]

I remember meeting a woman off a dating site once who was poly, her husband was going to come with her to the meet and he did. The three of us had a meal and a chat. Halfway through he said I'm off I'll leave you two alone, etc.

You should have asked her husband to give you some change for the johnny machine in the toilets. 

[mattylondon]

So what happens if you find yourself falling for someone on "civvy street" and then you find out that she is/was in fact a prossie? How would you handle that situation?

Run for the hills and don't turn back. Damaged goods. 

[Adele Bella]

Run for the hills and don't turn back. Damaged goods. 

So would you say that the same can be said about someone a lady starts seeing and finds out he is/was a punter?

[dave123]

So would you say that the same can be said about someone a lady starts seeing and finds out he is/was a punter?

I am married but if I was with a new woman I would never admit to punting because the general public and women particularly, do not view punting in a favourable light mainly because their only understanding of the sex industry is through the press which tend to sensationalise it. They either think it is seedy and dirty or like a porn film when in actual fact it is usually not like either.

[yorkshire123]

So would you say that the same can be said about someone a lady starts seeing and finds out he is/was a punter?

I don't see the relevance in your question.
This is men talking about prossies not women talking about punters. I believe that question belongs in saafe.

[mattylondon]

So would you say that the same can be said about someone a lady starts seeing and finds out he is/was a punter?

If he was the type of punter who continued to punt in secret, whilst seeing this lady, then yes, she should run.

Of course, there are men on here who have tried to resolve things with their partners and have felt compelled to turn to punting. And then there are others who are honest enough to enjoy the variety. It's none of my business what other men do but you asked for my opinion, so now you have it.

If he gave up the punting and/or fuck buddies for her, then no, she shouldn't run. 

If the relationship was open, then all of the above is irrelevant.

You may consider it hypocritical but I consider it  the same thing as fucking a civvy. There are some women out there, as there are men, who one sows their wild oats with and there are other men/women who are boyfriend/girlfriend and husband/wife material. A women who loses all her dignity to become a prostitute, who will fuck all and sundry, young and old, handsome or ugly, fat or thin, or any other description for payment, is not somebody who I could respect as a person, a girlfriend or wife material. I may like them as a person and there are indeed some girls who I do. I've also spent extended and social time with some girls, but there is no way that I'd every consider dating a prostitute. I draw the line right there. Of course, there will be rare exceptions to the rule and I have known a couple who did it in dire circumstances but in my experience once a woman has broken that taboo and become a prostitute they're damaged goods permanently.

And if you cannot tell the difference between a punter and what a prostitute does, then you do indeed have problems. 

[Rochdull lad]

So would you say that the same can be said about someone a lady starts seeing and finds out he is/was a punter?

My response to that scenario would be to say, "But, darling; now that I've met you I can see how shallow that world was." with as much sincerity as I could muster! 

And do my best to ensure that she didn't see that I had my fingers crossed as I was saying it!

[incognitomosquito]

I don't see the relevance in your question.
This is men talking about prossies not women talking about punters. I believe that question belongs in saafe.

It's a question I would possibly ask my female colleagues/acquaintances at work...I just need to know how to open up the conversation without causing suspicion!

One possible opening line could be, 'A man is healthy of mind and body, good looking, straight, secure (financially and emotionally), is single, is 'open minded' (this part of the list is very important) and wants to go out with you...list three things that would make you not want to date him or start a serious relationship with him.'

Possible answers could include

- He lives with his mum

- He lives in another country

and hopefully...the conversation about men being with WGs would start.

[k]

It's a question I would possibly ask my female colleagues/acquaintances at work...I just need to know how to open up the conversation without causing suspicion!

One possible opening line could be, 'A man is healthy of mind and body, good looking, straight, secure (financially and emotionally), is single, is 'open minded' (this part of the list is very important) and wants to go out with you...list three things that would make you not want to date him or start a serious relationship with him.'

Possible answers could include

- He lives with his mum

- He lives in another country

and hopefully...the conversation about men being with WGs would start.

I used to know a woman who was very keen on going out with a particular guy.  This was an almost obsessive thing for her for a few weeks.  Then one day she completely changed her mind.  Her reason?  He was doing some diy (no, not what you're thinking you pervert), she went over to chat to him and apparently he had smelly feet.  Game Over.  End Of.   

[Adele Bella]

I'm not questioning anyone's morality, but I do find it odd how the statement "damaged goods" is acceptable when describing one's idea of a prostitute. Most people I know in this industry lead quite normal lives away from work. I personally think the term "damaged goods" is quite a dramatic turn of phrase for escorts/prossies/wg's or whatever you might call us. I'm in no way implying that punters are "damaged goods", I was simply asking the poster if he would himself call punters that seeing as they are the end user of the service provider. There are plenty of people in this world that have never sold sex, but have "prostituted" themselves in other ways. And as for dignity is concerned, surely someone who fucks "all and sundry" on a drunken night out and gets a reputation for being the town bicycle has less dignity than someone who offers a service in a safe environment for both parties in a clear and concise way (ie the financial transaction) in a sober frame of mind?

[socks]

They either think it is seedy and dirty or like a porn film when in actual fact it is usually not like either.

I try to make my punts that way - like a porn film I mean. It's why I punt, to have the type of sex I see in films!!

[mattylondon]

I'm not questioning anyone's morality, but I do find it odd how the statement "damaged goods" is acceptable when describing one's idea of a prostitute. Most people I know in this industry lead quite normal lives away from work. I personally think the term "damaged goods" is quite a dramatic turn of phrase for escorts/prossies/wg's or whatever you might call us. I'm in no way implying that punters are "damaged goods", I was simply asking the poster if he would himself call punters that seeing as they are the end user of the service provider. There are plenty of people in this world that have never sold sex, but have "prostituted" themselves in other ways. And as for dignity is concerned, surely someone who fucks "all and sundry" on a drunken night out and gets a reputation for being the town bicycle has less dignity than someone who offers a service in a safe environment for both parties in a clear and concise way (ie the financial transaction) in a sober frame of mind?

Much of what you've posted above, I'd wholeheartedly agree with actually, other than my choice of words naturally! There are indeed punters, who I believe are 'damaged goods' too. I could go into greater detail about that, but this isn't SAAFE. We talk about prossies on here, not punters. You're on the wrong forum. 

Bear in mind, I've met a great many more prostitutes than you have. And spent considerable time outside of the punt with a select few, who yes, I got on with and respected to a degree. It's my experience that most have been fucked over by a man, in some way. Be that the cheating husband, boyfriend or abusive partner. Even father. Not everybody I've met, but a significant number for it to register with me.

You're telling me that when you were growing up, you wanted to be a prostitute? Bullshit. I don't believe you. Perhaps you do what you feel you need to do, like people do with other jobs. You may enjoy the money but don't try to kid me you're a happy hooker. 

[socks]

A women who loses all her dignity to become a prostitute, who will fuck all and sundry, young and old, handsome or ugly, fat or thin, or any other description for payment.......... but in my experience once a woman has broken that taboo and become a prostitute they're damaged goods permanently.

It's interesting how different my perspective is on this. I'm sure there are women who in the course of their prostitution lose their dignity, just as I'm sure there are women trafficked into the job or who do it because of an addiction they need to fund. But I don't think the loss of dignity implicitly follows from becoming a prostitute. Far from it. Most women I've met and certainly those with whom I do repeat visits, I am full of respect for. They are in control of their lives, they enjoy their work and they deliver more pleasure to their customers than just about any other service provider I can think of. Instead of being minimum wage slaves, benefit lifestylers, or relationship leeches, they earn their way and make, in my view, a really valuable contribution to society. If I thought they'd lost their dignity I don't think I could fuck them. I would feel like I was abusing them.

I also don't see how working as a prostitute turns the woman automatically into damaged goods. It's a bit of a harsh analogy in the first place but it also sides with the idea that working in this trade automatically means that the woman is going to become mentally and/or physically harmed. Again if I thought this was the case I wouldn't be able to pay for sex with them. I'd again feel like an abuser.

I always use the comparison with taxi drivers or plumbers. As far as I am concerned a prostitute who sells sex to an ugly, fat, old punter, demeans herself no more than the taxi driver who drives him around or the plumber who fixes his pipes.

[mattylondon]

I also don't see how working as a prostitute turns the woman automatically into damaged goods. It's a bit of a harsh analogy in the first place but it also sides with the idea that working in this trade automatically means that the woman is going to become mentally and/or physically harmed. Again if I thought this was the case I wouldn't be able to pay for sex with them. I'd again feel like an abuser.

I offered up a perspective based on my own experience talking with many prossies. I don't profess to have the 'golden answer'. I'm not that arrogant. Ultimately, people are individuals and should be treated as such. Nevertheless, I heard enough evidence for me to establish a trend. How many prostitutes have you had a serious conversation with about this, face to face? Forget what they post on forums. It's irrelevant.

I discovered an awful lot of latent anger, deep mistrust and resentment against men. Whether this anger reflected the reality or it was simply used as an excuse for their own perceived shortcomings, it's hard to tell. People do have a tendency to blame others, in all walks of life! Therefore, 'damaged goods' is a reference my perceived mental state of many of the women I've spoke with. That is, they were unable to reconcile the anger that they felt against men. I've also spoken with a surprising number who say they'd been raped. Needless to say, I didn't punt those women again, regardless of whether they were telling me the truth or not, as I would feel like an abuser.

I'm sure you do realize that it's possible for a woman to provide you with the full so-called 'girlfriend experience' and yet still dislike/mistrust men, don't you? However, I tend to gravitate towards those women who enjoy the women and the sex. Plenty of them do exist, thankfully.

And we should be careful about exploitation because technically, one could argue we're all wage slaves! However, it's my firm contention that there are jobs that you'd want your loved one to do and not others. A prostitute is not a job I'd want any of my loved ones to do. Of course, if you wish to contextualize, there are others. If people are offended by my choice of words, that's too bad. I don't sugar soap for people's sensibilities and I don't set out to deliberately offend or play to the gallery. I tell it as I personally see it. 

[socks]

Yes indeed to all that it was just that I read your original post as asserting that all prostitutes were inevitably without dignity and were inevitably all damaged goods. Happily I have had reasonable conversations with enough prostitutes in real life to not base my perspective on a load of marketing waffle - like we do have to wade through on AW and forums!

Prostitution wouldn't be top of my list of jobs I'd hope my daughters would do. But it wouldn't be bottom either. If they freely chose the work, kept safe, were in control and made a decent living I'd be supportive of them. Equally though if someone gloated about what they had or wanted to do with them i'd probably respond in a fairly primitive manner!

[mattylondon]

Yes indeed to all that it was just that I read your original post as asserting that all prostitutes were inevitably without dignity and were inevitably all damaged goods. Happily I have had reasonable conversations with enough prostitutes in real life to not base my perspective on a load of marketing waffle - like we do have to wade through on AW and forums!

[squeezebox]

Much of what you've posted above, I'd wholeheartedly agree with actually, other than my choice of words naturally! There are indeed punters, who I believe are 'damaged goods' too. I could go into greater detail about that, but this isn't SAAFE. We talk about prossies on here, not punters. You're on the wrong forum. 

Bear in mind, I've met a great many more prostitutes than you have. And spent considerable time outside of the punt with a select few, who yes, I got on with and respected to a degree. It's my experience that most have been fucked over by a man, in some way. Be that the cheating husband, boyfriend or abusive partner. Even father. Not everybody I've met, but a significant number for it to register with me.

You're telling me that when you were growing up, you wanted to be a prostitute? Bullshit. I don't believe you. Perhaps you do what you feel you need to do, like people do with other jobs. You may enjoy the money but don't try to kid me you're a happy hooker.

 

a) If a bird chucked £100 at me to shag her for an hour or so, I might feel it could be a handy way to make a few extra sovs. If I was suddenly in demand, it might be a game changer.

b) Maybe a different form of job satisfaction.

[mattylondon]

a) If a bird chucked £100 at me to shag her for an hour or so, I might feel it could be a handy way to make a few extra sovs. If I was suddenly in demand, it might be a game changer.

b) Maybe a different form of job satisfaction.

If it was one of HPs horrors would you find it so easy to get it up and avoid her blubber!? 

How about a spot of OWO on a sweaty, grey pube fanny, that looks like road kill on a hot Florida day?

You may indeed discover a different kind of job satisfaction!! Care to pass on that £100 now?

[JV547845]

IA women who loses all her dignity to become a prostitute, who will fuck all and sundry, young and old, handsome or ugly, fat or thin, or any other description for payment, is not somebody who I could respect as a person, a girlfriend or wife material.

Dignity's overrated.  It returns with time.  I respect some prostitutes (professional ones who enjoy it) more than civvie women who look down on punting out of ignorance.  I suspect a lot of civvie women (e.g. the mumsnet lot) wouldn't respect you as BF or husband material if they knew you punted, so your attitude cuts both ways. 

If it's morally OK to buy or sell services from a sexual therapist to get over a mental block.  If it's admirable for WGs to provide a sexual experience to a disabled person who'd otherwise die a virgin then it's fine for WGs and me to spend time together if we both enjoy it and play safe, regardless of whether money changes hands.

It would be exploitative if I were super rich.  If I earned in 2 minutes what I'd have to pay a WG for 2 hours (or going to the third world and throwing dollar bills around for a blow job) then I might feel personally I was exploiting them.  The WG would probably see hypothetical rich guy me as a great customer and get as much work as she could.  I can't change the circumstances around them that caused them to set their prices.  And at the end of the day they'd only sell services to someone else or go without any money at all. 

As it happens it's about a couple of days work for me to pay for a 2 hour punt so I don't think myself punting in the UK is exploitative in the least (assuming I never go with a girl coerced into it - I take great pains to avoid them anyway).

[incognitomosquito]

If I dated any lass, it would be because I thought she was a hottie inside and out.  If I had issues with her, then these are things we would both have to deal with...I personally wouldn't want to limit my chances of finding someone I thought was great based on her profession...but everyone has their limits.

My own tolerance level (apologies if that sounds condescending or if it carries a tone of superiority) would be if a lass I was dating was some kind of mass murderer and I was next on her hitlist...survival instincts kick in and I disengage my brain downstairs and run for the hills.

And with regards to the term damaged goods...is this in reference to how many men a woman has slept with, or to do with mental stability, both or neither?  If it's not 'neither', excuse the double negative, then this is an issue that arises in relationships outside of the punting venn diagram.

[squeezebox]

If it was one of HPs horrors would you find it so easy to get it up and avoid her blubber!? 

How about a spot of OWO on a sweaty, grey pube fanny, that looks like road kill on a hot Florida day?

You may indeed discover a different kind of job satisfaction!! Care to pass on that £100 now?

   Errr..think my car has just broken down....

[akauya]

One more addendum to my previous posts here having seen some of your replies...

We must remember that relationshits are all about compromise. It's a give and take situation. We are never going to find a person who is going to be the one and only, the soul mate, the perfect partner, one in a million, love at first sight, come on all that is Mills and Boon bullshit.

We are all fucked up human beings to start with (and we have to thank our parents for that, remember External Link/Members Only). We have to work hard at relationshits, it's all about give and take. For example Mrs A. is she perfect? Like heck she is, one of her major faults is, of course, her decision to no longer have sex (amongst other little niggling shitty things that she does to annoy me) but am I going to chuck her just for that because she is not 100% the woman I would like her to be? Hell no. Apart from all her faults she makes up for it just by being wonderful in nearly every other aspect of our lives and to top that she is a perfect mother for my kids.

Like I said before if I were single and younger and if it so happened would I get into a relationshit with a prossie? Why the hell not? I don't know if it's because I used to swing a lot with my FB and other lovers but I think I'm very sexually liberated. I think (or hope) I have very little hang ups when it comes to sex. Of course there are things that I would never do but not because I feel appalled by them but because they are juts not my thing and good luck to those who enjoy them.

So a relationshit with a prossie would be just like any other, if you really love that person and you want it to work you would have to make lots of compromises.

As for prossies being damaged goods, come on Matty? Anyone would think you've been reading too much Daily Mail mate Yes, I agree you will always find some who really are damaged goods and a lot who end up being damaged goods (don't we called them burnt outs?) but not all of them mate, not all of them. Oh and I do agree with you that there are punters who are definitely damaged goods as we all know - and they do stand out for their decrepit whining don't they especially if they turn from being hard arse punters to fluffy punters after they meet "the one" special prossie 

[mattylondon]

We are all fucked up human beings to start with

Speak for yourself!?

As for prossies being damaged goods, come on Matty? Anyone would think you've been reading too much Daily Mail mate

A Daily Mail reader? Now you're getting nasty! That comic book would be my last paper of choice!

Yes, I agree you will always find some who really are damaged goods and a lot who end up being damaged goods (don't we called them burnt outs?) but not all of them mate, not all of them.

Burn outs, damaged goods, troubled. What's the difference? 

Not all, but that's my assessment based on many extended conversations. I stand by it. 

Does it make one a hypocrite? No. It has nothing to do with the sex. It isn't my problem if many are fucked up. I punt for sex. If I worried about who was a fuck up generally, that would apply to a far broader spectrum of people than prossies! 

I'm pretty friendly with a few girls who do this and have spent extended social time with them too. You'd be surprised. But this all revolves around punting. There are different sorts of inter-relationships that people can have. I haven't been burnt by any, like some clearly have on here. I'd say that makes those punters damaged in some way too. In fact, quite the contrary. I've had to to cut two loose, who got too close. I haven't been 'wronged'. It's never crossed my mind for a second to have a relationship with a prossie. I wouldn't respect one as a potential partner. I'm just being honest. If that offends them or other punters, too bad. I retain a health dose of cynicism because I find that most of them are deceptive people and liars.

I neither like nor dislike prossies. Why is that important? When you buy your paper, have your boiler serviced or pick up your dry cleaning, is it relevant whether you like that person or not? I only require that they do their job and there's mutual respect in the way we conduct business.

You've made some good points however. 

[akauya]

You've made some good points however. 

You too Matty; oh and apologies about the Daily Mail thing, it was cheap shot