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Author Topic: Sending money from a bank account without revealing your name?  (Read 6604 times)

Offline Milfman1112

You obviously don't trust her/him 100% so don't do it.

Offline Rochelle

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I know all the advice on deposits and I wouldn't normally, but I'm considering it with someone I'm 99.99% sure is genuine.
However, I'm not that keen on revealing my real name, so wondered what they see at their end, and if there is a way of hiding it?
So what did you do in the end?

Cash app would have been ideal if you're worried about her knowing your name. Easy to sign up, just use a fake name and a different email address.

Offline rioblack90

Hey guys,

I know what you’re thinking, NEVER PAY A DEPOSIT! and normally I wouldn’t but the SP I’m looking to have a session with is well reviewed and trusted seeing as she has been around so long. My question is what’s the options to paying a deposit without giving bank details?

RB

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« Last Edit: March 24, 2023, 10:04:52 am by Doc Holliday »


Offline RandomGuy99

Many accept retail and online gift cards which can buy with cash down your local supermarket or paper shop. These cards have a scratch off strip on the back. If you scratch it off you'll find a code which you can email, sms or direct message to the SP.  The SP uses the code to redeem the voucher into their online retailer account. No personal information disclosed.
« Last Edit: March 24, 2023, 11:07:14 am by RandomGuy99 »

Offline Punterperson1971

Hey guys,

I know what you’re thinking, NEVER PAY A DEPOSIT! and normally I wouldn’t but the SP I’m looking to have a session with is well reviewed and trusted seeing as she has been around so long. My question is what’s the options to paying a deposit without giving bank details?

RB
I paid a deposit with my last review but I did my homework on her first via a few guys on here who had seen her.

Offline rioblack90

Thanks for the helpful info guys

Offline pdq

I have paid £150 deposit when I first started - Simple bank transfer and yes it was a it traceable and printed in the bank statement.

Avoided a scam for £20 basically correct bank details but the name was incorrect eg initial was wrong. I was told by the bank in continuing to pay with wrong details there would be no comeback and they would not help if there was a problem.

I am considering paying for deposit to an outcall eg travel outside a certain distance with cash app but will have to look further into it.

But in paying a deposti you have to do your own research eg profiles with all positive on aw and ukp  are probably okay , other wise if any neg or neutral you take your chances.  Guess its down to how much you are willing to loose if it goes wrong

Offline Southernbloke

Many accept retail and online gift cards which can buy with cash down your local supermarket or paper shop. These cards have a scratch off strip on the back. If you scratch it off you'll find a code which you can email, sms or direct message to the SP.  The SP uses the code to redeem the voucher into their online retailer account. No personal information disclosed.

Absolutely the best way to do it. If this is not satisfactory for the sp then look elsewhere

Offline magnetico

Most likely sending money to a bank account will also reveal her full name to you.  Even it's a company account, directors names are easy to find. So actually this is a poor method for a scammer to use.

You can get a name from an account number and sort-code?

Absolute nonsense.  :sarcastic:

Offline RandomGuy99

You can get a name from an account number and sort-code?

Absolute nonsense.  :sarcastic:
You can using software like Bank Wizard.  That is what your bank uses to verify bank payments, but they usually require you to enter the person or company's name, sort code and account number and compare them with what is returned by the software. If they match, then they allow the payment. If they don't then they display a message telling you the details don't match. 

Offline TescoMealDeal

I’ve worked in banking for a few years so heres some genuine information:
1) Most big name banks are signed up to Confirmation of Payee which means your provider will normally tell you if the details and the name match. If they don’t or there’s a slight misspelling they’ll also let you know and ask if you want to make the payment. Smaller banks, such as Metrobank are not part of this just yet
2) When sending faster payments (bank transfers) generally most big name banks will tell you the account holders name as it appears on their bank. E.G. if my bank account name was Tesco Meal Deal and I sent you a payment, you would see “Tesco Deal” on your statement (assuming Meal was a middle name). Again it varies from bank to bank some providers show your full name including middle name, other banks like Monzo only show your surname and your first initial when receiving payments.
3) Business accounts / Sole Trader accounts behave in the same way. If you make a faster payment then it will show your LTD company name or trading as name on the beneficiaries statement.

To summarise there is no way to hide your name or parts of your name when sending money via a bank transfer to another bank account.

Advice:
1) If the name given by the SP for the account doesn’t match the Confirmation of Payee prompt when making the first payment, DON’T MAKE THE PAYMENT. You are better safe than sorry.
2) You can make a “Payment recall” if you’ve sent the SP money and they’ve ghosted on you. I’m sure all banks provide this service as long as you’ve made a faster payment (most if not all bank transfers are faster payments unless you’ve specifically requested a CHAPs payment, which you mainly do when sending large sums of money). Your bank has 21 working days to try and recall the funds from the beneficiaries account, however they  will ask you a lot of questions about who what when where why and how. So I recommend you get your story straight and stick to it unless you want to admit you paid £50 for an escort deposit 😂. Also the minimum you can recall is £20. Also be prepared for the bank to “investigate” the issue as they may look into your transaction history and probe. Be warned if you do too many payment recalls your account may be closed for improper use or “fraud”.


 On a side note, if the SPs account gets flagged, e.g. multiple people are trying to recall payments from the SPs account, the SPs bank will investigate SPs account and most likely have it closed. FYI the both banks have an obligation to investigate every payment recall request and more often than not, the account reported does get restricted/ closed.

Let me know if you want me to clarify anything

Offline Rochelle

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I’ve worked in banking for a few years so heres some genuine information:
1) Most big name banks are signed up to Confirmation of Payee which means your provider will normally tell you if the details and the name match. If they don’t or there’s a slight misspelling they’ll also let you know and ask if you want to make the payment. Smaller banks, such as Metrobank are not part of this just yet

Advice:
1) If the name given by the SP for the account doesn’t match the Confirmation of Payee prompt when making the first payment, DON’T MAKE THE PAYMENT. You are better safe than sorry.
2) You can make a “Payment recall” if you’ve sent the SP money and they’ve ghosted on you. I’m sure all banks provide this service as long as you’ve made a faster payment (most if not all bank transfers are faster payments unless you’ve specifically requested a CHAPs payment, which you mainly do when sending large sums of money). Your bank has 21 working days to try and recall the funds from the beneficiaries account, however they  will ask you a lot of questions about who what when where why and how. So I recommend you get your story straight and stick to it unless you want to admit you paid £50 for an escort deposit 😂. Also the minimum you can recall is £20. Also be prepared for the bank to “investigate” the issue as they may look into your transaction history and probe. Be warned if you do too many payment recalls your account may be closed for improper use or “fraud”.


 On a side note, if the SPs account gets flagged, e.g. multiple people are trying to recall payments from the SPs account, the SPs bank will investigate SPs account and most likely have it closed. FYI the both banks have an obligation to investigate every payment recall request and more often than not, the account reported does get restricted/ closed.

Let me know if you want me to clarify anything


That's not necessarily a red flag. I don't usually give my real name when asking for deposits, therefore the name won't match. I would assume there are other genuine escorts who do the same. I never ask for much unless I'm travelling a very long way or it's late at night.
« Last Edit: April 03, 2023, 10:29:12 pm by Rochelle »

Offline s0whatsnew?

I've had a number of my deposits returned by the SP for various reasons re cancelled meets.   Almost always its been a business name like  'GB Studio'  or suchlike.   

 It occurs to me that if I were to have to go down the payment recall route and face bank questions as to the nature of the goods or services I had contracted for, I should know in advance how the SP herslf defines her business;  lifestyle counselling or whatever.   Might I have to submit copies of emails to the bank?   Hmmm !  Could be tricky.

Online Colston36

I know all the advice on deposits and I wouldn't normally, but I'm considering it with someone I'm 99.99% sure is genuine.
However, I'm not that keen on revealing my real name, so wondered what they see at their end, and if there is a way of hiding it?

I have tremendous trouble sending money from my bank account.

The bank has decided I am senile and wastes a lot of my time asking why I am sending it, how do I know the woman, have I met her and so on. I don't really control my own money. They do this with good intentions because of the prodigious amount of online fraud but it's driving me crazy.

Offline TescoMealDeal



That's not necessarily a red flag. I don't usually give my real name when asking for deposits, therefore the name won't match. I would assume there are other genuine escorts who do the same. I never ask for much unless I'm travelling a very long way or it's late at night.

Completely understandable, but speaking of sending money to an SP that has little to no reviews and the bank name doesn’t match, I’d say it’s not worth the risk. Cash is always the best policy for both parties for the purposes of anonymity.

Unfortunately in modern day banking there’s almost no way of doing bank transfers without some information being revealed to both sides.

And yes banks do ask a ton of questions to high risk groups, you could always switch providers if needed. Some banks are offering up to £200 to do a current account switch (I’ve already gotten £375 total) which I will be using for future punting endeavours hahaha

Offline ulstersubbie





And yes banks do ask a ton of questions to high risk groups, you could always switch providers if needed. Some banks are offering up to £200 to do a current account switch (I’ve already gotten £375 total) which I will be using for future punting endeavours hahaha

Do you switch current accounts on a regular basis, just curious. £375 is a useful amount.   :hi:

Offline magnetico


2) You can make a “Payment recall” if you’ve sent the SP money and they’ve ghosted on you. I’m sure all banks provide this service as long as you’ve made a faster payment (most if not all bank transfers are faster payments unless you’ve specifically requested a CHAPs payment, which you mainly do when sending large sums of money). Your bank has 21 working days to try and recall the funds from the beneficiaries account, however they  will ask you a lot of questions about who what when where why and how. So I recommend you get your story straight and stick to it unless you want to admit you paid £50 for an escort deposit 😂. Also the minimum you can recall is £20. Also be prepared for the bank to “investigate” the issue as they may look into your transaction history and probe. Be warned if you do too many payment recalls your account may be closed for improper use or “fraud”. 

why not telling the truth ?

if it's a scam (prossie didn't exist), why would the bank not refund it ?

Offline heathen666

You can set up a fake business Paypal account, there seems to be less security around this than a person account which needs ID to fully enable the account.

If you both have Revolut accounts then you can send via the username.

Any bank account is going to reveal a real name.

Offline RandomGuy99

You can set up a fake business Paypal account, there seems to be less security around this than a person account which needs ID to fully enable the account.

If you both have Revolut accounts then you can send via the username.

Any bank account is going to reveal a real name.
And if PayPal find out you've done this they'll close down your account and keep any funds that were in it. Not recommended.

Offline TescoMealDeal

Do you switch current accounts on a regular basis, just curious. £375 is a useful amount.   :hi:

Once every 2 years normally banks won’t give you the switching money if you bank with them or have claimed a switch bonus within the last 24 months

Offline TescoMealDeal

why not telling the truth ?

if it's a scam (prossie didn't exist), why would the bank not refund it ?

Well most people like to stay anonymous during punting, I’m sure you wouldn’t want the bank to know about it. And employees do talk so whoever deals with your case will pass it onto the payments team to investigate who will pass it onto the other bank. Everyone within a 5 mile radius will talk because sending money to an SP is always more interesting than someone wanting to cancel a direct debit.

Plus it can be difficult to get your money back as you have to provide evidence that you were scammed and normally texts aren’t enough on their own.

Offline s0whatsnew?

And if PayPal find out you've done this they'll close down your account and keep any funds that were in it. Not recommended.

Not only that,  any opening of a business account automatically gets referred to HMRC.   If a tax return doesn't get submitted in due course questions will get asked.    :timeout:

Offline Bru1901

Not only that,  any opening of a business account automatically gets referred to HMRC.   If a tax return doesn't get submitted in due course questions will get asked.    :timeout:

Not true

Open a sole trader account


Offline funfungoodguy

If you are still keen to do this you could always go into a bank and pay into her account with cash.

i used to se a girl about ten years ago who asked me to pay into her bank, it was fine, i just paid in at the bank  each time in cash, no problem. if they need a reference just agree something with her so she knows its you and get the counter cashier to give you a receipt of the payment in case there's any issues about it not getting there

Offline southcoastpunter

you are a bit out of date funfungoodguy - most banks will no longer allow you to pay cash into someone else's account.

Offline RandomGuy99

you are a bit out of date funfungoodguy - most banks will no longer allow you to pay cash into someone else's account.
All part of the anti-money laundering regs

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Offline funfungoodguy

well fair enuf. it was quite a few yrs ago.

Offline s0whatsnew?

Not true

Open a sole trader account

Sole traders don't have to pay tax?   Who knew!    :P
« Last Edit: April 16, 2023, 11:58:42 pm by s0whatsnew? »

Offline magnetico

Not only that,  any opening of a business account automatically gets referred to HMRC.   If a tax return doesn't get submitted in due course questions will get asked.    :timeout:

I cannot find any source on the Internet for this "fact"?

Offline Bru1901

Sole traders don't have to pay tax?   Who knew!    :P

Its a dormant account

Your transferring your own money and using it

So no need to disclose as your business never became active


Offline s0whatsnew?

I cannot find any source on the Internet for this "fact"?

Here's something else for you to play with before challenging me to reveal my source:  All fully-licenced banks are completely aware of all other bank accounts held by any particular client, both as an individual and/or business.   Have to admit I was gobsmacked when i found that out.

Tip; don't go to the internet, just make friends with your local bank manager.

Offline RandomGuy99

Its a dormant account

Your transferring your own money and using it

So no need to disclose as your business never became active
The HMRC automatically get notified of this stuff now. Just like they told of the interest you earn on every account.