Outcalls and no number

[Clarence Boddicker]

I've recently turned 180 degrees, I use to only interested in a WG if there was a face pic, published phone no, and services provided at her address, but recently Ive changed tack, I've only been looking at exclusively at girls , who travel and who you book completely through the system and while its early days, my last couple of punts have been amongst my best ever.  I appreciate Im in a very privileged position in that I can have a home visit, but I suspect there's a lot less chance of my provider being jaded or a conveyor-belt, there's also the comfort and control of being in your own home. Finally Ive found myself almost not wanting to see a face-pic, of course there's the risk of disappointment but there's also the Christmas-like apprehension before you meet. I'm interested to know what you guys think,

[JontyR]

Everyone's situation is different. I have booked outcalls and had a great time. I have also had a nightmare where there was an early morning "unschedueld return". If the neighbours saw they didn't mention it, but it wasn't a great situation. Presently it wouldn't be an option.

The current thread on how to excuse yourself sort of tells you how it could be less than ideal too.

As always in this game...it depends on your attitude to risk. It seems that that risk is part of your fun, so fair play.   

[Clarence Boddicker]

Shit that sounds stressful.  Did you se any warning signs?

[lillythesavage]

I've recently turned 180 degrees, I use to only interested in a WG if there was a face pic, published phone no, and services provided at her address, but recently Ive changed tack, I've only been looking at exclusively at girls , who travel and who you book completely through the system and while its early days, my last couple of punts have been amongst my best ever.  I appreciate Im in a very privileged position in that I can have a home visit, but I suspect there's a lot less chance of my provider being jaded or a conveyor-belt, there's also the comfort and control of being in your own home. Finally Ive found myself almost not wanting to see a face-pic, of course there's the risk of disappointment but there's also the Christmas-like apprehension before you meet. I'm interested to know what you guys think,

I too prefer my own home, usually for SB type meets, but I was the first to review your latest review, I do not give a stuff what the neighbors see or think and I live in a cul-de sac. They are used to seeing young women come and go, they have turned up while I am talking to them in the street or met them as we or they were leaving, none of their business.

None have told the wife yet, but she knows anyway and we live apart.

I absolutely agree they are less jaded, most are only part time anyway and use AW to choose who and who not to meet, several punters here have had no luck with Sofia.
I find there is less time pressure or clock watching, have a comfortable super king in the spare room, with a big mirror, it is next to the bathroom and it works very well for me, not had any hassle at all.

[Rockhead]

Yes, like the OP I too have a preference for outcalls these days. It's partly for the reasons listed, but also because there is some special pleasure in playing with somebody in my own bed. It's hard to express or define it precisely - but there's an x-factor to the whole thing that adds something. Perhaps it seems more 'real'.
I don't give a stuff what the neighbours think and they're usually all out in the daytime anyway. The last girl I saw at my home (last Friday) moaned and groaned for England - she'd certainly have been overheard had there been anyone home next door, and in a way, I regret the fact that there wasn't.
Finding girls willing to do outcalls isn't always that easy. But once they've established you're not a psychopath it's easy enough to arrange return visits.

I have also had a nightmare where there was an early morning "unschedueld return".

I'm intrigued to hear what happened?

[Straightsix]

There are some classic lines in that movie.  My favourite one is when he bursts into the room and orders the hookers out "bitches leave" and then puts a grenade on the table 👍😄

Face pics have never bothered me or how they look. A nice bottom and wide hips is sometimes all that attracts me and never disappoints. Oddly, kitchen utensils in the background sometimes do it for me as I prefer normal plain looking girls.

[lillythesavage]

Yes, like the OP I too have a preference for outcalls these days. It's partly for the reasons listed, but also because there is some special pleasure in playing with somebody in my own bed. It's hard to express or define it precisely - but there's an x-factor to the whole thing that adds something. Perhaps it seems more 'real'.
I don't give a stuff what the neighbours think and they're usually all out in the daytime anyway. The last girl I saw at my home (last Friday) moaned and groaned for England - she'd certainly have been overheard had there been anyone home next door, and in a way, I regret the fact that there wasn't.
Finding girls willing to do outcalls isn't always that easy. But once they've established you're not a psychopath it's easy enough to arrange return visits.

I'm intrigued to hear what happened?

Book for the evening, make sure the neighbors can hear, open the windows .

I have on occasion had an early morning leaving, but never a return, unexpected overnights are a bonus.

[Rockhead]

Book for the evening, make sure the neighbors can hear, open the windows .

I'm planning my summer fixtures already  Continuing the football analogy, I do feel that playing at home gives me an advantage somehow.

[Silencio]

Any outcall profiles you'd specifically recommend?

[Marmalade]

Any outcall profiles you'd specifically recommend?

A rather pointless question surely when you both seem to live in entirely different areas?
You might be better asking on the thread for your own area.
 

[Marmalade]

Outcalls can be much more relaxing. If you’re in a strange city and in a hotel that won’t be a chick-blocker then it makes a lot of sense rather than driving round with the risk of getting lost. Home visits can be excellent too — always have a routine to put the p4p at ease, e.g. leave her exit free, let her pour her own drink, anything to reassure her you’re not a psycho. And of course, stash any valuables first so you’re not constantly worried about whether she’s going to chorey something. On the other hand I do slightly object to the gross extra charge they usually levy for an outcall, far in excess of the taxi fare or driver fee (and many of them just get the fucking bus anyway) but it’s a saving on the punter’s time farting about.

At the other end, those of you who remember the book by UKP’s founder (Nik) will have the story of a certain outcall emblazoned on their memory. He kicked the prossie out and she stood on his driveway shouting and screaming for ten minutes. Not all ‘extras’ are displayed on the likes lists!

[WAP]

Sounds more like a SB type experience is what you are after. I’ve learnt that independent outcall only girls tend to be part timers and are less jaded and tend not to be clock watchers. They are closer to a GFE. If I’m doing an outcall whether to my place or to a hotel, I’ll usually either have a decent chat with them on the phone first or meet them outside first at a pub or cafe and then bring them back to my place. That’s so I can size them up and decide if I want to go ahead with the punt or not. I learnt never to use an unknown agency for outcall especially outcall only ones found on vivastreet who are invariably BS and B&S 

[lillythesavage]

Outcalls can be much more relaxing. If you’re in a strange city and in a hotel that won’t be a chick-blocker then it makes a lot of sense rather than driving round with the risk of getting lost. Home visits can be excellent too — always have a routine to put the p4p at ease, e.g. leave her exit free, let her pour her own drink, anything to reassure her you’re not a psycho. And of course, stash any valuables first so you’re not constantly worried about whether she’s going to chorey something. On the other hand I do slightly object to the gross extra charge they usually levy for an outcall, far in excess of the taxi fare or driver fee (and many of them just get the fucking bus anyway) but it’s a saving on the punter’s time farting about.

At the other end, those of you who remember the book by UKP’s founder (Nik) will have the story of a certain outcall emblazoned on their memory. He kicked the prossie out and she stood on his driveway shouting and screaming for ten minutes. Not all ‘extras’ are displayed on the likes lists!

This is the reason to choose those that outcall only. A} there is no incall price to compare to, B] Incall  SP,s see time travelling and not being ready for the next punter as money they need to make up, often, maybe not all.
It would be very unusual to get 2 bookings in the same locality, so travel to and from is time they are not on call at the in call place and if they do have another outcall booking, they leave enough time not to rush, my experience anyway, and the next punter is not texting his arrival on your vinegar strokes

Using out call only I have never been asked for fares up front, or expected to pay them, only paid the advertised hourly rate.

[Marmalade]

This is the reason to choose those that outcall only. A} there is no incall price to compare to, B] Incall  SP,s see time travelling and not being ready for the next punter as money they need to make up, often, maybe not all.
It would be very unusual to get 2 bookings in the same locality, so travel to and from is time they are not on call at the in call place and if they do have another outcall booking, they leave enough time not to rush, my experience anyway, and the next punter is not texting his arrival on your vinegar strokes

Using out call only I have never been asked for fares up front, or expected to pay them, only paid the advertised hourly rate.

Correct, one never pays for fares on top: they are included in the rate — but it is extortionate given that the average difference between incall and outcall is about 20 quid for an hour.

I’m less inclined to agree with you on the ‘outcalls only’ WGs. Having no incall price to compare just implies happy ignorance. Also, if one imagines a criminal: outcalls only would be the ideal m/o. Just my opinion.

 

[JontyR]

Shit that sounds stressful.  Did you se any warning signs?

Not particularly which sort of lead to me making a hash of dealing with it.

I'm intrigued to hear what happened?

Well it was over 15 years ago and I was working away and in a short term let in a terraced house that didn't have a bell. Neither did my neighbour whose door was next to mine so it often meant you were unsure if there was a knock on the door when you were at the back of the house as to whose job it was to answer. 

So there was a knock whilst I was in bed early morning and not wanting to make a trip downstairs unnecessarily I spied through the curtains at the upstairs window. She, the brass I'd booked as a late night outcall a few weeks previous,  noticed the moving curtains, so now pretending there was no one in wasn't an option.

I went downstairs and opened the door and she came in. She asked if I wanted a repeat. It was clear she was on something, or was suffering the effects of having previously being on something. I pleaded poverty. She didn't believe it. I threatened calling the police, she threatened me back saying she was known to the police and I'd be in trouble. I said there was nothing illegal in what we had done. She threatened again, poor girl was a little desperate, saying that she'd make allegations of a sexual nature. I said that she could do what she liked as we hadn't done anything on that occasion there couldn't be any evidence. This did take a little time to register but then she realised there wasn't any chance of getting anything. I gave her a couple of quid from by the sofa and said it was all I had. She took it and went.

To be fair I think she realised that there wasn't a soft touch available so never tried a repeat. I also mentioned that I'd not be in the property for much longer anyway. But she never tried it again whilst I was there.

[Silencio]

A rather pointless question surely when you both seem to live in entirely different areas?
You might be better asking on the thread for your own area.
 

Yes because of course it's impossible to travel to a different area. You're quite right.

[Marmalade]

Yes because of course it's impossible to travel to a different area. You're quite right.

Your sarcasm is wasted. Recommendations for prossies in a particular area are obviously more suited to the sub-forum dealing with that area. The enquiry was about outcalls and the travel costs to pay a prossie to travel from London to the Midlands would be frankly ridiculous. 

 

[lillythesavage]

Correct, one never pays for fares on top: they are included in the rate — but it is extortionate given that the average difference between incall and outcall is about 20 quid for an hour.

I’m less inclined to agree with you on the ‘outcalls only’ WGs. Having no incall price to compare just implies happy ignorance. Also, if one imagines a criminal: outcalls only would be the ideal m/o. Just my opinion.

 

Blissful ignorance is good , what I meant was if I see incall @ say 100, and outcall @ say 200, it is never going to happen, and it is often the incall ones that request a cab booked on top.
Outcall only, have an hourly rate shown you can be happy with and move on if not, but they are more likely to turn up on time, in call could get a in call booking and decide to blow out travelling or try and push it back, not usually a risk with out call only.

If they are criminally minded, incall or outcall , is just part of the game, trusting your gut, a little research, and reading between the lines of messages and chats is all you can do, nobody has tried to nick my phone or the TV so far

[Rockhead]

A couple of blood-curdling stories there from Nik (via Marmalade) and that horrific episode for JontyR. Thanks for sharing.

I'm hoping that my policy of sticking to tried and trusted performers takes away most of that risk - although that does also take away the element of uncertainty enjoyed by the OP. I guess you have to balance what you consider to be a reasonable degree of risk given your own circumstances.

Silencio - I cannot help with London providers but know a couple in Leicester. Would love to hear about a few more, but I suspect that query is better placed in the East Mids section.

I rather like the 'brazen' nature of it all: girl in question (both well known East Midlands escorts) parking outside my house and clicking their way up my drive in their heels. Pretending she's coming for a 'business meeting' or something - which, in the loosest sense, she is!

[Mr_Shins]

Outcall-only girls will often have no premises from which they work - certainly easier for independent part-time newbies to make some extra money.

You have to consider that the extra money is partly the time it will take them to commute to you, and they wouldn't normally put a variable rate dependent on how far away you are.

When I had Melysa coming to me, it's about 10-15 minutes by car but she would only do 1 hour not the normal half hour and I had to pay £200, I think I did once get a slightly lower rate when I collected her and took her back and the commute time did not count towards the hour session time. That was during the lockdown time when she didn't want visitors.

[lillythesavage]

Outcall-only girls will often have no premises from which they work - certainly easier for independent part-time newbies to make some extra money.

You have to consider that the extra money is partly the time it will take them to commute to you, and they wouldn't normally put a variable rate dependent on how far away you are.

When I had Melysa coming to me, it's about 10-15 minutes by car but she would only do 1 hour not the normal half hour and I had to pay £200, I think I did once get a slightly lower rate when I collected her and took her back and the commute time did not count towards the hour session time. That was during the lockdown time when she didn't want visitors.

I was trying to get across the point about travel time, you may have explained it better than me, but I totally agree on out call only often being part timers, living in shared homes, as many do, with jobs and treating AW as a way to earn extra.

I have found most taking that route also enjoy sex, and not been rogered every half hour, they tend to make the most of their meets.

[Mr_Shins]

It may explain why in my early days I got a number of "outcall only" girls bid on my RBs for which I was offering £150 for 1.5 hours. I guess those girls often scanned through the RBs. They would travel in civvy clothing so asking them to simply continue wearing that for the session suited them well