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Offline nickleupip

We all know about the decline of the quality of service in the club. That you have more and more girls who apply less and less effort or reduce their services. It has been talked about quite a lot. I tend to visit not too often (I know there are people who regularly spend a lot of money there and I am nothing like that), every 2-3 months for a while now (since the Edgware road days) and the latest disappointment has been Barbara's attitude...

I like Barbara as an organiser rather than a party girl, and lets face it: she is the least hot girl in there, packing a lot of extra weight and frankly is the least of the girls you would expect to find at a party of this quality. My understanding is that she is in the rota because she has a trusting relationship with Em. Fine up to here.

I suppose Em's thinking is that "Fine, I know she is nowhere near as hot as she has to be in order to work here, but let me throw her in the rota a every now and then so that I can keep her happy and have an extra pair of eyes overlooking the parties, since I can't be bothered to be there like I use to in the past". That is fine by me, all I have to do is avoid the days that Barbara is in the rota. However we also know that without any warning and depending on ratios, she is always likely to be there as a party girl.

And this is when it gets worse. Lets say that, ok, if all the hot girls are busy with one cock in their mouth and one in their pussy, I might as well give the big girl a little play. But Barbara lately has been lazy, she has not been allowing FK, she has not been allowing anyone touching het tits for crying out loud. She makes extremely obvious that she is finding it a real burden providing services to men who pay good money for, and with 15 minutes to go she was urging people to get up and go have a shower! :dash: No thank you I want to fuck some more! :diablo:

It seems that Barbara is taking advantage of Em's trust and rather than trying her best to make sure this declining or quality of service does not continue, she is now leading the way. Of course who are we to say anything, after all this is Em's issue, however I hate to see true potential being spoiled.

 There is a thin line between leaving the party with a spring on your step (and having wanking memories for several days) and leaving with thoughts of how you just wasted 160 quid!

Offline Kingy28

I think that you raise some good points.I started going there at Lancaster Gate, parties were almost always full, 8 or 9 girls on at most parties. Very few duds but the service in the past year or two has definitely slipped. I used to do around 6 parties a month & they were great value, with 2 consecutive parties costing £220 for 4 hours varied action. Then came the Edgware Road shutdown & things have never been the same since.

Too many girls are now there because they can't make £400 a day as an indie or at a parlour. Well documented lack of supervision means that they can get away with doing as little as possible.

Several years ago, Barbara was NEVER on the rota. She did the meet & greet, cleaned up & called time. That's all she did. She started partying a couple of years ago. I never saw her partying at LG, WM & ER when I was attending regularly.

She is also very obstructive when she is answering the phone. I always ask who is on the rota before I commit to going & she just doesn't like to give out the info. I know my number is stored in their phone as Em has texted me in the past so Barbara should know that I'm not a timewaster. I'd like Em to use the twitter page to inform us of any rota changes on a daily basis. That would be a step forward imho.

As far as the rota is concerned, now that it is likely that only 4 are working & that Em is highly unlikely to bump off Barbara at the last minute, then I wouldn't go on that particular day when Barbara is on as she does nothing for me.

The point you make about finishing up 15 minutes early really grates on me too. We used to get herded into one room, now we get herded onto one bed so they can start cleaning up & making the other beds. This happened to me at my last 7pm party. One of the whores even left at 8.45 cos she had a train to catch. Its just not on.

Online Sinz

Absolutely agree with all the points you have raised. I have been at TPC twice and even though Barbara was not listed on the rota for the day, unfortunately ended up having her both times and as I have detailed in my review, Barbara was the worst performer and could not be bothered to provide any service worth the money.

Hope this changes as a decent amount of money is paid and punters go there hoping to get an experience that is memorable. But ends up leaving feeling like shit because of her attitude and lack of interest. She also ends up influencing other WGs mood, attitude and overall punting scene due to her role in the chain.

Not to mention all the loud and lengthy conversations in Brazilian with her WG mates during acts. At one stage she had my cock like a mic while she was chatting away with her mate for about 5-10 mins in Brazilian and kept telling me one min.

Overall TPC has to get their act together, be consistent with the rota and up ther service.
« Last Edit: June 25, 2017, 03:43:13 am by Sinz »

Offline smiths

LMP back in the Lancaster Gate days was a very well oiled machine of competence, what made this occur was Em and Moss being their especially Em as Moss never went downstairs except to use the toilet during parties. Em was virtually an ever present supervisor and she also got rid of lazy WGs and then never had a problem replacing them with good WGs. She ensured every party was at an incredibly good standard, I know as I was their to witness it, I never did less than 2 parties per visit at LMP, in those days with 7 WGs and the max 2/1 ratio the parties were £120 for 2 hours or £200 for 4 hours, great VFM to me.

TPC is a pale shadow of this and has 2 WGs less per party for the same price as LMP were charging at its demise, no longer VFM for me and a number of punters I know and trust rather than ones I don't on here have told me its now hit and miss and more miss than hit, which I never experienced once in over 300 or so parties at LMP.

Its a real shame as Em was in those days always interested in feedback on improving the parties, she actively listened to advice and sometimes acted on it. She chose WGs in the main that were pro-active, they came to hunt for punters if not busy, Jennifer as one example was always doing this, fantastic stuff and amazing memories of great times I had and the fun was off the scale. LMP was among the best punting I have ever experienced.

 In my case I went to LMP last after going to a number of the other London area parties, GP, LAPC, Limelight, Desire and Sacred Rose, I talked to punters at these parties and a few were telling me about LMP, so after that prick Paddy at GP had fucked me over one time too many I booked in to LMP and couldn't believe my eyes. I hope for punters sakes TPC gets back to that standard.


Offline Mcping

I agree some valid points regarding the demise since the Lancaster Gate days. LMP was like a 2hour intense gym session of sucking and fucking and Em was like the hardcore drill instructor barking orders to keep the parties moving. Personally I loved the Lancaster Gate days and wish they would return. Em definitely has to do something to improve the quality of the girls and service. I have heard Em has stopped the 'motivational supervision' as plenty of punters had previously preferred a more relaxed party...even mentioned some of the girls may have been coerced (total bollocks)
I also agree vfm now is no where near what it used to be.
I can understand costs such as rent increasing but a real shame the service has also dropped.


Personally I think the comments about Barbara are completely unfounded and equally bollocks. I've always found Barbara very welcoming as a hostess and as a party girl. I'd say she now looks even better now she's lost some weight and got a tan.
She's a little bigger than some, definitely but not the biggest. I would normally go for girls size 6-8 but at Party i don't mind a little variety and Barbara size 12-14 is no problem.

vt

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I'm still a fan of these parties, but I can't disagree with most of what's written here. Barbara was supposed to be going back to Brazil earlier this year and I thought a new chapter could begin, but somehow she was allowed to return.

Hopefully Em can take note and correct any deficiencies that have been pointed out. The parties are very much in need of the benign, humourous, proactive supervision of the kind Em used to dispense in times past. Not all the girls are self-starters and it's a bit unfair on those who are to be expected to take up the slack.

You can still have fun there, I did on Friday, so I am putting my money where my mouth is on this. I believe it does still represent VFM when you can meet some very hot willing girls like Luiza, Kasia, Anna, Lila, Mel, Nicole, Sandra, Asia, Paloma, Beatriz & others for £32 each, but it is very dependent on the girls on the line-up being fanciable, welcoming and self-starters, qualities which have been seen to be lacking in some.

That's my 2p worth.  :hi:
« Last Edit: June 25, 2017, 01:36:31 pm by vt »

Offline Convince Me

Sinz, smiths I could not of put it better mysef. I've stopped attending TPC based on rosta changes, the poor attitudes of the girls and who is in charge.

It surprises me why Sergi has not entered the market place?

TrevorN

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I'm still a fan of these parties,but I can't disagree with most of what's written here. Barbara was supposed to be going back to Brazil earlier this year and I thought a new chapter could begin, but somehow she was allowed to return.

Hopefully Em can take note and correct any deficiencies that have been pointed out. The parties are very much in need of the benign, humourous, proactive supervision of the kind Em used to dispense in times past. Not all the girls are self-starters and it's a bit unfair on those who are to be expected to take up the slack.

You can still have fun there, I did on Friday, so I am putting my money where my mouth is on this. I believe it does still represent VFM when you can meet some very hot willing girls like Luiza, Kasia, Anna, Lila, Mel, Nicole, Sandra, Asia, Paloma, Beatriz & others for £32 each, but it is very dependent on the girls on the line-up being fanciable, welcoming and self-starters, qualities which have been seen to be lacking in some.

That's my 2p worth.  :hi:

Reading between the lines they are now crap . £160 and being told 1min  . Is a massive no no for me .


TrevorN

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I'm quite suprised you defend them .

Offline smiths

I'm still a fan of these parties, but I can't disagree with most of what's written here. Barbara was supposed to be going back to Brazil earlier this year and I thought a new chapter could begin, but somehow she was allowed to return.

Hopefully Em can take note and correct any deficiencies that have been pointed out. The parties are very much in need of the benign, humourous, proactive supervision of the kind Em used to dispense in times past. Not all the girls are self-starters and it's a bit unfair on those who are to be expected to take up the slack.

You can still have fun there, I did on Friday, so I am putting my money where my mouth is on this. I believe it does still represent VFM when you can meet some very hot willing girls like Luiza, Kasia, Anna, Lila, Mel, Nicole, Sandra, Asia, Paloma, Beatriz & others for £32 each, but it is very dependent on the girls on the line-up being fanciable, welcoming and self-starters, qualities which have been seen to be lacking in some.

That's my 2p worth.  :hi:

You know what i think of you, you have previous for accepting a secret discount off the Divines through Chloe at MK Escorts, I don't trust you and I suspect though cant prove you are getting such a discount off TPC, you are an ever present poster on their threads on here usually. You always use the same modus, have a little moan agree with some who moan but then say but I still go and have a good time. I have seen this before with touts and cheerleaders of parties. :thumbsdown:

I listen to punters I know and trust rather than you and they tell me TPC is now hit and miss and more miss than hit.

Offline Mcping

Reading between the lines they are now crap . £160 and being told 1min  . Is a massive no no for me .

Crap is the wrong word. They have gone down hill but not crap...just not as good as they used to be.


Online Sinz

Is this the lady you guys are speaking off ?

Yes BM, but the pics are not accurate representation and as you imagine photoshopped.

Offline Brazilian Martian

Yes BM, but the pics are not accurate representation and as you imagine photoshopped.


Ok thanks for that  :thumbsup:, I've always been in two minds about visit parties, whats the ratio like normally and do the girls do work independently as I like the look of renata.

Offline notcalledchris

Crap is the wrong word. They have gone down hill but not crap...just not as good as they used to be.
my two visits were certainly not crap.  But i am not doubting the criticism postd here and can well believe they are not up to the glory days of lancaster Gate.   My advice to wavering punters is to check the rota first.

Online Sinz

my two visits were certainly not crap.  But i am not doubting the criticism postd here and can well believe they are not up to the glory days of lancaster Gate.   My advice to wavering punters is to check the rota first.

Checking rota does not help, as they change them last minute and both times I visited 4 out of 5 WGs were different from what was advertised.

Offline Mcping

My advice to anyone visiting Phoenix -

GET STUCK IN !

The days of sergeant major Em barking orders appear to be well gone. Now whenever I go to any party I think of it as 2hours to make the most of it.

Stick your cock in the face of any Phoenix girl and she'll suck it.

I think most guys are either shy or too considerate of other blokes at the party - I'm not saying be pushy but spitroasting and gangbanging are the best bits of a party.

Online Sinz


Ok thanks for that  :thumbsup:, I've always been in two minds about visit parties, whats the ratio like normally and do the girls do work independently as I like the look of renata.

2:1 I would say, I had the luck to have 2 WGs in 2 rounds and 3 WGs in the 4th round. But as mentioned in my review, there was no passion and the engagement level was appalling.
« Last Edit: June 25, 2017, 04:10:54 pm by Sinz »

TrevorN

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Too many White Knights for TPC . Fuck knows what perks they must be getting to for silly defensive remarks .


Offline Steely Dan

Too many White Knights for TPC . Fuck knows what perks they must be getting to for silly defensive remarks .
Who do you mean? Is this a serious suggestion, or are you just trying to be a tough guy? Have you been? Where is your review?

I find most of the responses quite balanced, neutral and factual. I do not see a need for the name calling.

I agree with the OP on most points.  I wish it were better. TPC may not be as reliable as in the past, but it is still among the best parties.   The 7 girl versus 5 girl thing does not bother me, as long as ratio holds.  If only 9 or 10 guys turn up to a party, it is understandable they can't have 7.

Offline fudi_maar

This is a very welcome thread with lots of valid and grounded comments about TPC (a certain late entrant is trying to troll the thread, but we all know who he is). I have been a regular at TPC/LMP for years, and a consistent theme I get from other regulars there is : Lancaster Days were the best. They certainly were - I mentioned in my review that TPC is a mere shadow of what LMP used to be.

Barbara - I love her as a hostess, but as a party-girl? Nope, nunca. She's mechanical, has a habit of lying very far away from the punters' reach when giving blowjobs, keeps wiping her mouth with a wet-wipe, is normally distracted and looking around the room (maybe still being in a hostess mode - do the condoms need replacing? Are there enough wet-wipes?  etc), doesn't allow touching of the boobs (too sensitive apparently). I usually try and avoid the days when she is on the rota too.

The worst case is when one of the girls has failed to turn up, and Barbara strips off to party - and does the hosting at the same time as well - she's totally dis-associated at those times.

I sincerely hope that Em is reading this forum - she needs to see that something has to be done. I love the party scene.
And although I still have awesome times there, it's much more of a gamble.

On a positive note - the fourth bed in the room is a great addition - many of my recent parties have only had 4 girls, and to get a bed to yourself with a girl is great.




Offline notcalledchris

Checking rota does not help, as they change them last minute and both times I visited 4 out of 5 WGs were different from what was advertised.
maybe ive just been lucy but ive only had one substitution at the parties i have been to.  Its not perfect but i will continue to attend because ive not found better

Online Sinz

maybe ive just been lucky but ive only had one substitution at the parties i have been to.  Its not perfect but i will continue to attend because ive not found better

Yeah that's what I thought the first time and tried the second time, I might lay it off for sometime now and see if things change. Thanks for the intel

Offline Kingy28

Checking rota does not help, as they change them last minute and both times I visited 4 out of 5 WGs were different from what was advertised.

The website rota is published on a Sunday and it never changes for the coming week. It is set in stone. The exact same info is transferred onto twitter on the day of the party.  More and more of us are wising up to the fact that the rota is not to be relied upon. Why can't they use Twitter to inform us of the daily changes? Plenty of other bumph gets put on there during the day so why not rota alterations?  It's quite simple really to communicate with us customers in that way

vt

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maybe ive just been lucy but ive only had one substitution at the parties i have been to.  Its not perfect but i will continue to attend because ive not found better

That is similar to my stance, but are you sure Em isn't paying you to say this?? Some members here seem to think that if you've arrived at this conclusion there must be some kind of underhand conspiracy going on!  :rolleyes:

I think most have been even-handed and balanced on this thread, I think everyone who attends regularly agrees there are a number of issues that need sorting that would improve things for punters.

I was there on Friday for my monthly (or so) visit. All five girls on the published line-up were in attendance. An 11th guy arrived about 5 minutes after the start, so Barbara stripped off and became a 6th girl to keep max ratio at 2:1. Her boobs were untouchably sensitive which is a strange attribute for a party girl, but I had a pleasant enough doggy fuck and moved on. I also concur that she is best employed as a friendly, helpful hostess rather than a party girl.

Anna, Luiza & Lila were sexy & playful as ever. Asia was smiley & friendly and got my pop. I didn't get to play with Talida which is a shame as she does have a pretty face & a lovely tanned nubile body. I've spotted her as Rebel at HoD.

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If anyone has any other ideas as to where I can go and play with 5 girls as hot as these at low ratios for 2 hrs for £32 each, please send your suggestions in on a postcard and I'll give it a try!  ;)

Online Sinz


If anyone else has any other ideas as to where I can go and play with 5 girls as hot as these at low ratios for 2 hrs for £32 each, please send your suggestions in on a postcard and I'll give it a try!  ;)

Agree with some of the points you have made, but I would not classify any of the WGs hot, yes it's good VFM to fulfill a fantasy of threesome or group sex but other than that, the service especially by Ivana and Barbara was very appalling. YMMV, but I dint find the WGs attractive IMO to call them Hot.

Offline Brazilian Martian

Agree with some of the points you have made, but I would not classify any of the WGs hot, yes it's good VFM to fulfill a fantasy of threesome or group sex but other than that, the service especially by Ivana and Barbara was very appalling. YMMV, but I dint find the WGs attractive IMO to call them Hot.

If you had to guess the average ages of the girls what would you say ?

vt

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Agree with some of the points you have made, but I would not classify any of the WGs hot, yes it's good VFM to fulfill a fantasy of threesome or group sex but other than that, the service especially by Ivana and Barbara was very appalling. YMMV, but I dint find the WGs attractive IMO to call them Hot.

I wasn't referring to Ivana or Barbara. Have you met Luiza, Anna or Talida yet? I was drawing a comparison between them and girls available at other parties. Have you met more attractive girls at other parties? Where?  :unknown:



vt

  • Guest
If you had to guess the average ages of the girls what would you say ?

I would say the range is from early 20s like Beatriz, Talida & Sandra. The majority are late 20s-early 30s like Luiza, Kasia, Daniella & Anna. There are few Brazilian MILFs that might be late 30s pushing 40 (I'm guessing, I haven't seen their passports) like Barbara, Julia & Renata.

Offline Brazilian Martian

I would say the range is from early 20s like Beatriz, Talida & Sandra. The majority are late 20s-early 30s like Luiza, Kasia, Daniella & Anna. There are few Brazilian MILFs that might be late 30s pushing 40 (I'm guessing, I haven't seen their passports) like Barbara, Julia & Renata.

I looked at their website and Renata caught my eye does she or  any of the other brazilians work independently outside of the party  ? any info would be appreciated.

Online Sinz

I wasn't referring to Ivana or Barbara. Have you met Luiza, Anna or Talida yet? I was drawing a comparison between them and girls available at other parties. Have you met more attractive girls at other parties? Where?  :unknown:

That exactly is my issue, the rota for the day I booked has Luiza and Talida but instead had these unenthusiastic WGs. Also this thread was focusing on Barbara's attitude, in case you did not notice. Was not comparing to other parties, just WGs or woman in general.

« Last Edit: June 25, 2017, 11:05:17 pm by Sinz »

Online Sinz

I looked at their website and Renata caught my eye does she or  any of the other brazilians work independently outside of the party  ? any info would be appreciated.

Pass, not sure if any of them work independently.

vt

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I looked at their website and Renata caught my eye does she or  any of the other brazilians work independently outside of the party  ? any info would be appreciated.

Not sure about Renata, but Mel is the only Brazilian I know for sure that works elsewhere. She is Valentina at the HoD places in London & MK.

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Early 30s Italian-Brazilian from Santa Caterina State. She's tall & toned, very European-looking, has implants and is very sensual & smooth, nice welcoming personality, I like her a lot.

Offline Brazilian Martian

Not sure about Renata, but Mel is the only Brazilian I know for sure that works elsewhere. She is Valentina at the HoD places in London & MK.

External Link/Members Only

Early 30s Italian-Brazilian from Santa Caterina State. She's tall & toned, very European-looking, has implants and is very sensual & smooth, nice welcoming personality, I like her a lot.

Ok thanks for the information :thumbsup:

vt

  • Guest
That exactly is my issue, the rota for the day I booked has Luiza and Talida but instead had these unenthusiastic WGs. Also this thread was focusing on Barbara's attitude, in case you did not notice. Was not comparing to other parties, just WGs or woman in general.

That was bad luck, but really if you haven't met those I was referring to, I don't see how you can say they aren't hot.  :unknown:

I'm comparing like with like, Phoenix party girls with party girls elsewhere or even your usual London prossies in the £130-150ph price range. Of course you might see hotter model girls on the streets of London or in Fashion magazines, but you can't fuck them for £32 each, can you?!  :)

Online Sinz

That was bad luck, but really if you haven't met those I was referring to, I don't see how you can say they aren't hot.  :unknown:

I'm comparing like with like, Phoenix party girls with party girls elsewhere or even your usual London prossies in the £130-150ph price range. Of course you might see hotter model girls on the streets of London or in Fashion magazines, but you can't fuck them for £32 each, can you?!  :)

Calm down mate, I get your point, but struggling to figure out your obsession with £32.

No body is talking about fucking models from a magazine.

You are clearly polarised and biased, so let's just agree to disagree. Cheers

Offline smiths

That was bad luck, but really if you haven't met those I was referring to, I don't see how you can say they aren't hot.  :unknown:

I'm comparing like with like, Phoenix party girls with party girls elsewhere or even your usual London prossies in the £130-150ph price range. Of course you might see hotter model girls on the streets of London or in Fashion magazines, but you can't fuck them for £32 each, can you?!  :)

What a load of old bollocks, its £160 for 2 hours as you cant elect to pay less. Jeez what a pimps arse licker. :thumbsdown:

TrevorN

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VT pal,  may I suggest when in a hole stop digging.. as being TPC & Divines chief Arselicker . Your discounts  for helping them out on UKP forum days are truly over .

vt

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I thought we were having a sensible discussion here, but once you start throwing pointless insults around, no-one benefits.

The £32 is just a piece of simple arithmetic. The entry fee of £160 divided by the amount of girls available, usually 5, equals £32 that you would effectively be paying to fuck each girl. Sorry if that was too complicated for you to understand.

The challenge is still out there for you or anyone else...suggest to me another party that would be more worthy of my hard-earned and I'll try it!  :)

I've done GGP and Paradise Coffee days and although they offered fair value, I found both wanting in terms of ratios and quality of ladies.

Offline Kingy28

That exactly is my issue, the rota for the day I booked has Luiza and Talida but instead had these unenthusiastic WGs. Also this thread was focusing on Barbara's attitude, in case you did not notice. Was not comparing to other parties, just WGs or woman in general.

That's not bad luck as vt reckons,  it's clearly bait and switch. Put up a couple of premier girls on the rota to lure the punters in and replace them with duds. It happens on a regular basis 
« Last Edit: June 26, 2017, 08:09:29 am by Kingy28 »

Online Sinz

I thought we were having a sensible discussion here, but once you start throwing pointless insults around, no-one benefits.


It would be great if you can explain the pointless insults I have made.

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The £32 is just a piece of simple arithmetic. The entry fee of £160 divided by the amount of girls available, usually 5, equals £32 that you would effectively be paying to fuck each girl. Sorry if that was too complicated for you to understand.

Both you and I know, there won't be 5 WGs at all times- unless of course there are more punters joining the party. Also, you don't end up popping 5 times in 2 hours. So you arithmetic logic is not practical and probably you have built up a reasoning as to why you think it's worth it in your head. That does not mean it is correct nor does other punters have to accept your baseless logic.

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The challenge is still out there for you or anyone else...suggest to me another party that would be more worthy of my hard-earned and I'll try it!  :)

Not interested in your challenge, just stating unbaised facts. I thought you said we were having a sensible conversation, didn't know it was about playing challenge game.

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I've done GGP and Paradise Coffee days and although they offered fair value, I found both wanting in terms of ratios and quality of ladies.
Fair intel and appreciate that.

The suggestion on the thread to you has been unanimous, stop white knighting and let everyone share their views. Instead of you acting like TPC's spokesman by  attacking anyone who has a had a negative experience with TPC.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2017, 08:18:23 am by Sinz »

vt

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That's not bad luck as vt reckons,  it's clearly bait and switch. Put up a couple of premier girls on the rota to lure the punters in and replace them with duds. It happens on a regular basis

So why were they all there on Friday then?  :unknown:

I'm not saying it can't happen that 2 girls call in sick, have to take their puppy to the vets, have to get their visa renewed at the Consulate or the myriad of other excuses prossies have for no-showing on the day, but to say it's a deliberate Bait & Switch is over-egging it.

You can call up before the party and ask if there are any line-up changes. Em has always given me an honest answer when I've done this. I agree what others have said regarding the idea of posting any updates to the line-up on Twitter, that might be helpful to punters.

Online Sinz

That's not bad luck as vt reckons,  it's clearly bait and switch. Put up a couple of premier girls on the rota to lure the punters in and replace them with duds. It happens on a regular basis

I agree with your point, both the times I visited TPC- Luiza and Tilda were on the rota for the day. But they did not join the party and other older unenthusiastic WGs joined the party instead.

So a solid case of Bait and Switch.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2017, 08:25:36 am by Sinz »

vt

  • Guest


It would be great if you can explain the pointless insults I have made.

Both you and I know, there won't be 5 WGs at all times- unless of course there are more punters joining the party. Also, you don't end up popping 5 times in 2 hours. So you arithmetic logic is not practical and probably you have built up a reasoning as to why you think it's worth it in your head. That does not mean it is correct nor does other punters have to accept your baseless logic.

Not interested in your challenge, just stating unbaised facts. I thought you said we were having a sensible conversation, didn't know it was about playing challenge game.
Fair intel and appreciate that.

The suggestion on the thread to you has been unanimous, stop white knighting and let everyone share their views. Instead of you acting like TPC's spokesman by  attacking anyone who has a had a negative experience with TPC.

I was referring to TrevorN & smiths about the pointless insults.

You're right, no-one has to agree with the logic of my arithmetic, but surely I'm allowed to explain & express it.

As to the challenge, I sincerely want to know if I'm wasting my cash by visiting TPC every 4-8 weeks. I'm still having fun with the right line-up, but if there is something better I want to know about it.

I don't think I've attacked anyone on this thread, certainly not in the terms that I have been attacked. I've broadly agreed with most of the criticisms, but from my insight as a semi-regular attendee, I've perhaps been able to explain why things are as they are. I hope that's not white-knighting, but more expressing my personal opinion as an interested punter and contributing to the discussion.

Online Sinz

Let's just leave it at, you were lucky and I was unlucky.

So as I suggested earlier agree to disagree with the views.

Thanks for the insights.

Offline nickleupip

We have read some great views by many OPs.

However I started this thread focusing on Barbara herself. The club is Em's baby, with her hard work it became the no 1 party place in London (which would put it pretty high in the rest of the world) and now despite still being almost the best option available, I think that it is slowly and steadily declining. Surely Em wants to avoid possible premature death of her creation.

But the one supposedly trusted person she has, who is meant to be her eyes and ears at the parties, is fucking it up for her... Barbara is betraying Em's trust and I have no idea if she is aware of it.

Offline Full Moon

I should have done reviews for this, but I've visited the phoenix club 3 times in the last month since my last solo punt with Eva at Hot Collection, which although being a positive kinda put me off solo punts for the time being. So I finally took the plunge with PC and so far finding it a good experience.

I've only experienced one rota swap so far when Andrea was replaced with Barbara. It's always a good idea to ask who is partying when you first arrive, thus avoiding a situation where you could be disappointed via a girl not turning up - which I will add, it can't be helped, do you expect them to track their girls 24/7 to ensure they turn up?

My personal favourites -

Amanda
Andrea
Anna
Asia
Beatriz
Kasia
Luiza
Talida

TrevorN

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They should add a disclaimer.   Rota should be taken with a pinch of salt . Barbara will definitely be a deffo with a hands off tits approach  :sarcastic:

Offline Full Moon

Not sure if this has been mentioned before on UKP - I went today (Friday) and I will eventually do a review unlike the other times, but basically the party is being relocated to another venue, that's why next week the party will not be running.

Offline Steve2

I'm quite suprised you defend them .

Why would you be surprised? VT is one of their main fanboys  :hi: