Wiki page to track Brazilians taking the piss!

[zinger]

Hi Guys,

I just set this page up.. External Link/Members Only

Let's use it to track the Brazilians who are turning the Brazilian brand into the Romanian.

We can track them here and hopefully let them know that we have noticed.

Maybe we can use our AW profiles to email Brazilian providers.. Once we email enough of them, hopefully the subject will make into the private Whatsapp groups of WGs (You can assume there are many of these). And they might take care to improve.

Any questions?

[HarryZZ]

As far as I can see the only girl listed is well reviewed on AW (well, yes okay) and no bad reviews on here, there may be some issues with indexing why any reviews aren't appearing in a search I'm not sure, she looks expensive but that's there for everybody to see before they even contact her, and her profile picture is the same girl as the gallery pictures. It feels like I'm reading a book and somebody ripped a chapter out and I don't really understand what's happening. There's been quite a lot of negativity with Brazilian SPs recently, my few encounters have been positive but I'm sure other poor reviews and opinions are genuine and based on experience, my experiences with Romanians has been disappointing, some terrible and some just about acceptable, I've learned my lesson and won't be going back, I'm just not seeing where the negativity is coming from in this case.

What am I missing?

[Jerk Chicken]

As far as I can see the only girl listed is well reviewed on AW (well, yes okay) and no bad reviews on here, there may be some issues with indexing why any reviews aren't appearing in a search I'm not sure, she looks expensive but that's there for everybody to see before they even contact her, and her profile picture is the same girl as the gallery pictures. It feels like I'm reading a book and somebody ripped a chapter out and I don't really understand what's happening. There's been quite a lot of negativity with Brazilian SPs recently, my few encounters have been positive but I'm sure other poor reviews and opinions are genuine and based on experience, my experiences with Romanians has been disappointing, some terrible and some just about acceptable, I've learned my lesson and won't be going back, I'm just not seeing where the negativity is coming from in this case.

What am I missing?

You're not missing anything

This is, I think, the third thread calling out Brazilian/Latina SPs.

It appears they are flavour of the month to be attacked. Totally unjustified in my opinion. Further I do not see a significant review count leading us towards negative experiences with Brazilians as we do with Roms.

[zinger]

As far as I can see the only girl listed is well reviewed on AW (well, yes okay) and no bad reviews on here, there may be some issues with indexing why any reviews aren't appearing in a search I'm not sure, she looks expensive but that's there for everybody to see before they even contact her, and her profile picture is the same girl as the gallery pictures. It feels like I'm reading a book and somebody ripped a chapter out and I don't really understand what's happening. There's been quite a lot of negativity with Brazilian SPs recently, my few encounters have been positive but I'm sure other poor reviews and opinions are genuine and based on experience, my experiences with Romanians has been disappointing, some terrible and some just about acceptable, I've learned my lesson and won't be going back, I'm just not seeing where the negativity is coming from in this case.

What am I missing?

I can't find any reviews for Renata on here (UKP), would you mind linking to them. I don't trust AW at all, as many others also don't. I have recently seen her and the experience wasn't great, just not gotten around to a review yet.

You're not missing anything

This is, I think, the third thread calling out Brazilian/Latina SPs.

It appears they are flavour of the month to be attacked. Totally unjustified in my opinion. Further I do not see a significant review count leading us towards negative experiences with Brazilians as we do with Roms.

Hey JC, I'm not sure about flavour of the month for a bashing.. But I have been having a bad run of Brazilians (with a few exceptions lately) over the past 12 months and they are my general go to ethnicity.

The reason I started the wiki was because I have seen a tendency for prices to be getting fairly frothy without the service / enthusiasm to match. And this business of extras at the point of request (mid punt) is nto acceptable to me at all.

The whole idea of the wiki page is to try and identify the SPs who are doing this.

[daviemac]

Hi Guys,

I just set this page up.. External Link/Members Only

Let's use it to track the Brazilians who are turning the Brazilian brand into the Romanian.

We can track them here and hopefully let them know that we have noticed.

Maybe we can use our AW profiles to email Brazilian providers.. Once we email enough of them, hopefully the subject will make into the private Whatsapp groups of WGs (You can assume there are many of these). And they might take care to improve.

Any questions?

Have I got this right, you want me to spend time emailing escorts I would never dream of making appointments with using my AW account that is not linked to this site in any way.    Purely because you've had a few bad punts.  What do I do when my AW profile name gets listed as a timewaster.   

How do you check they actually are Brazilian and not another nationality claiming to be.  Would it not be easier for you to stick to well reviewed ones if you must punt with one particular nationality.

[pythondan]

I thought this was going to be about David Luiz!

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[Kool Keef]

I thought this was going to be about David Luiz!

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[hermanmunster]

It wasn't me ref, I was standing still and watching the opposition score a goal!

[Jerk Chicken]

I can't find any reviews for Renata on here (UKP), would you mind linking to them. I don't trust AW at all, as many others also don't. I have recently seen her and the experience wasn't great, just not gotten around to a review yet.

Hey JC, I'm not sure about flavour of the month for a bashing.. But I have been having a bad run of Brazilians (with a few exceptions lately) over the past 12 months and they are my general go to ethnicity.

The reason I started the wiki was because I have seen a tendency for prices to be getting fairly frothy without the service / enthusiasm to match. And this business of extras at the point of request (mid punt) is nto acceptable to me at all.

The whole idea of the wiki page is to try and identify the SPs who are doing this.

Brazillian/Latina prices and services based on AW rates and reviews on here pre Covid look like a "as they were" on both counts to me. Obviously now punting is making a gradual return as are WGs with reviews to match it is too early to say if prices are getting frothy/on the up.

Without sounding like a scratched record yes it would be great if Sergei or even Indie WG was upfront on the profile (and some are) but by now punters should be aware of if you see a base rate of circa £100/120 ph then that is the pussy only and nothing else. Most Latinas believe wrongly or rightly that all punters know this.

Now at a guess it could be marketing as in don't quote the extras in the profile but do so on the phone or in the room. By then the punter is psychologically committed to the punt if the former and totally committed once in the room so easier to up sell?

Insofar as services delivered by Brazilians/Latinas I truly cannot see any difference in the good, the bad and the ugly. It is business as usual.

[Steely Dan]

I just set this page up..

Let's use it to track the Brazilians who are turning the Brazilian brand into the Romanian.

Knock yourself out.

But ... why don't we create a review site that post REVIEWS of these Brazilians.  That way it would be more objective, rather than one punters opinion. We could post both positive and negative reviews of these escorts.  Wait ... we could add other nationalities too.  We could have a large data base with thousands of reviews. Fuck, why didn't someone think of this before?

Now a *list* of Brazillians with multiple reviews is a good idea. Seriously, if you want to add escorts to the list perhaps look here:
External Link/Members Only
(and if you actually punted RENATA GF, please post a review. Promise I wont mention lock down.  Others might, but whatever.)

[smiths]

Brazillian/Latina prices and services based on AW rates and reviews on here pre Covid look like a "as they were" on both counts to me. Obviously now punting is making a gradual return as are WGs with reviews to match it is too early to say if prices are getting frothy/on the up.

Without sounding like a scratched record yes it would be great if Sergei or even Indie WG was upfront on the profile (and some are) but by now punters should be aware of if you see a base rate of circa £100/120 ph then that is the pussy only and nothing else. Most Latinas believe wrongly or rightly that all punters know this.

Now at a guess it could be marketing as in don't quote the extras in the profile but do so on the phone or in the room. By then the punter is psychologically committed to the punt if the former and totally committed once in the room so easier to up sell?

Insofar as services delivered by Brazilians/Latinas I truly cannot see any difference in the good, the bad and the ugly. It is business as usual.

Why on earth would ALL punters know that Latinas may actually charge more than they state they do on their A/W profiles. I know the Brazilian WGs and/or their pimps in my area have been liars to a woman about what they really charge as OWO is always a £20 extra in reality, but I wouldn't expect ALL punters to know that, I know it from experience of speaking to these liars.

As to your £100-120 comment I assume you are only referring to Latinas their seeing its about Latinas, I agree with you, prices haven't risen in my area, they have already been charging a premium just because they say they are Latina, typically between £120-140 an hour, same as most Brits and that's every Brit in my area charges a premium and most have done for years just because they are Brits or say they are.

I also agree with you about at least some punters being committed by the time they travel to the WGs place, I call it thinking with my dick, I did it pre-lockdown with AnnaAnn, her lovely lithe body got my cock hard and my brain went out the window, I paid the price of her being a low life, £100 which I might as well of burnt. Yes its pre-planned marketing to lie in some cases about their really being extras, what I class as clear low life behaviour.

[Jerk Chicken]

Why on earth would ALL punters know that Latinas may actually charge more than they state they do on their A/W profiles. I know the Brazilian WGs and/or their pimps in my area have been liars to a woman about what they really charge as OWO is always a £20 extra in reality, but I wouldn't expect ALL punters to know that, I know it from experience of speaking to these liars.

As to your £100-120 comment I assume you are only referring to Latinas their seeing its about Latinas, I agree with you, prices haven't risen in my area, they have already been charging a premium just because they say they are Latina, typically between £120-140 an hour, same as most Brits and that's every Brit in my area charges a premium and most have done for years just because they are Brits or say they are.

I also agree with you about at least some punters being committed by the time they travel to the WGs place, I call it thinking with my dick, I did it pre-lockdown with AnnaAnn, her lovely lithe body got my cock hard and my brain went out the window, I paid the price of her being a low life, £100 which I might as well of burnt. Yes its pre-planned marketing to lie in some cases about their really being extras, what I class as clear low life behaviour.

All punters should know this by now simply because (a) it happens repeatedly (b) the base rate quoted for a a Latina (London) to get all they want is totally unrealistic. Simply basic common Punting sense when not thinking with ya dick.

Yes pimp, WG or combo are liars and use clever marketing, if you can call it that, but if a punter arrives at a genuine fit Latina and thinks he can get in her knickers with DFK, OWO, SEX and perhaps even CIM for like the price of a decent Rom then he is totally deluded.

Go prepared to add the standard 20/30/50. Every now and then up will pop a Brazillian/Latina where you get a result; as in everything is available, genuine fit gal, great attitude and is way sub £150 (London rates) but trust me mate it is rare, very rare indeed.

[smiths]

All punters should know this by now simply because (a) it happens repeatedly (b) the base rate quoted for a a Latina (London) to get all they want is totally unrealistic. Simply basic common Punting sense when not thinking with ya dick.

Yes pimp, WG or combo are liars and use clever marketing but if a punter arrives at genuine fit Latina and thinks he can get in her knickers with DFK, OWO, SEX and perhaps CIM for like the price of a decent Rom then he is totally deluded.

Go prepared to add the standard 20/30/50. Every now and then up will pop a Brazillian/Latina where you get a result as in everything is available, genuine fit gal and is way sub £150 (London rates) but trust me mate it is rare, very rare indeed.

Loads of punters wont know about UKP so might be unaware of how these WGs/pimps operate and that's not including new punters. So that's why not ALL punters will be aware in my view.

Good advice regarding Latinas hopefully punters reading UKP will take note of it.

[Steely Dan]

All punters should know this by now simply because (a) it happens repeatedly (b) the base rate quoted for a a Latina (London) to get all they want is totally unrealistic. Simply basic common Punting sense when not thinking with ya dick.

1) Where is your objective data? 'everyone knows that' is the first step to unneeded stereotyping.
2) Do these two follow your rule?
 External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only
 External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only
3) Please post reviews of shitty punts and we will avoid those poor escorts, not every escort from the same continent. In my experience, there are crap escorts from every country I can think of.

[zinger]

Fair enough on the responses..

I was just trying to be a bit proactive.

Never mind.

Sometimes I get spurts of enthusiasm that could be put towards better causes   

[contentguy]

Hi Guys,

I just set this page up.. External Link/Members Only

Let's use it to track the Brazilians who are turning the Brazilian brand into the Romanian.

We can track them here and hopefully let them know that we have noticed.

Maybe we can use our AW profiles to email Brazilian providers.. Once we email enough of them, hopefully the subject will make into the private Whatsapp groups of WGs (You can assume there are many of these). And they might take care to improve.

Any questions?

Thought I should reply as you were addressing me.

My thoughts: why bring race into this?

Why not just set up a site where we can post reviews about good experiences, indifferent experiences and bad experiences (we could call them Positive, Neutral and Negative).  You could call it ukpunting.com or similar.

If you added a search facility. we could find a review based on the AW index number.

Alternatively, we could all set up our own wiki page after a punt and get Google to index them.
Mmmmm....

Are you thinking with the thing between your ears, or just feeling pissed off over a bad punt?

Guy

[Jerk Chicken]

1) Where is your objective data? 'everyone knows that' is the first step to unneeded stereotyping.
2) Do these two follow your rule?
 External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only
 External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only
3) Please post reviews of shitty punts and we will avoid those poor escorts, not every escort from the same continent. In my experience, there are crap escorts from every country I can think of.

1. This is not stereotyping it is based on my own factual experiences and the reviews on this website. Open your eyes bro and read and absorb properly.

2. Selecting 2 SPs that go against consensus viewpoint out of the hundreds and hundreds of Latinas available and reviewed on UKP

3 Read my responses to this and other Latina threads. I can't recall the last bad Latina punt I have had so why would I fabricate shit reviews???

[Steely Dan]

1. This is not stereotyping it is based on my own factual but secret experiences and the reviews on this website that I can't point out. Open your eyes bro and read and absorb properly.

We see no data.  Give us the names of the shitty Brazilians you have fucked that have been poor. Our eyes are open and we see nothing. In terms of this site, the British have objectively the lowest Green to Red ratio, but it is so close to not matter (Hungarians and Latvians tied for first but not many Latvians clearly). The data on UKPunting says there is no negative Brazilian (or Latina) thing.  Sorry if you had some bad Brazilians. I wish no one to have a bad punt. I say again, names please.

2. Selecting 2 SPs that you name goes against consensus viewpoint out of the hundreds and hundreds of Latinas that I cant name available and reviewed on UKP.

Just two of many.  We are ready for the list of hundreds and hundreds of names.  We don't see them on the wikilist  posted above.  If there are no reviews, it is just hearsay.  I posted 2 with 20+ positives.  How many can you post with even 3 negatives? 200 is it? 50? 5? Do you even know what consensus means (Hint: An opinion or position reached by a group as a whole)? 5 or so punters sprouting their own experience is not close to a majority, let alone consensus. Even the OP has backed off.)

3 Read my responses to this and other Latina threads. I can't recall the last bad Latina punt I have had so why would I fabricate shit reviews???

So what does this mean?  You have had *no* bad Latina punts that you can recall? So what are you saying? If you have no data , I don't need to read other threads where you have previously said things with no data to support your view. 

I have no particular love for Brazilians in fact (though I do love a big arse on an otherwise slim babe!)  But we are sitting on one of the best data sources about fucking escorts in the world, and it pains me when people won't do the hard work and analyse the data, and then report facts that are *not* supported by the very forum they are writing on!

(Words in red are my edits not the original quote clearly.)

[Jerk Chicken]

We see no data.  Give us the names of the shitty Brazilians you have fucked that have been poor. Our eyes are open and we see nothing. In terms of this site, the British have objectively the lowest Green to Red ratio, but it is so close to not matter (Hungarians and Latvians tied for first but not many Latvians clearly). The data on UKPunting says there is no negative Brazilian (or Latina) thing.  Sorry if you had some bad Brazilians. I wish no one to have a bad punt. I say again, names please.Just two of many.  We are ready for the list of hundreds and hundreds of names.  We don't see them on the wikilist  posted above.  If there are no reviews, it is just hearsay.  I posted 2 with 20+ positives.  How many can you post with even 3 negatives? 200 is it? 50? 5? Do you even know what consensus means (Hint: An opinion or position reached by a group as a whole)? 5 or so punters sprouting their own experience is not close to a majority, let alone consensus. Even the OP has backed off.)So what does this mean?  You have had *no* bad Latina punts that you can recall? So what are you saying? If you have no data , I don't need to read other threads where you have previously said things with no data to support your view. 

I have no particular love for Brazilians in fact (though I do love a big arse on an otherwise slim babe!)  But we are sitting on one of the best data sources about fucking escorts in the world, and it pains me when people won't do the hard work and analyse the data, and then report facts that are *not* supported by the very forum they are writing on!

(Words in red are my edits not the original quote clearly.)

Bro I think lockdown has got to you ... maybe a decent single malt whisky or some pussy will correct it perhaps both. But anyways to correct your misunderstanding if there were  any:-

1. This thread was created by OP because of the perceived poor services offered by Brazilians. Whilst I totally understand why he created the thread I do not agree. Do you understand this?

2. My personal experiences with Brazilians/Latinas have been overwhelming positive. Do you understand this?

3. Hundreds of Latina SPs is a clear reference where the base price is £100-120 p/h. You cannot get a Latina in London offerimg DFK/OWO/SEX and maybe CIM. Do you understand this. See @Smiths post earlier on this thread ... review. Latina reviews in the London section where the punter was asked to pay extra for say OWO or FK. Do you understand this?

4. My comments are based on London prices. Based on your reviews you rarely punt in London so you are not in a position to challenge my price point or experiences of London punters with Latinas and how they feel. Do you understand this?

So to summarise just incase you need it

- I have no issues with Brazilians/Latinas can't  recall my last bad punt.
- Like the vast majority of punters have eluded to "extra baby" is the Latina middle name. If you don't realise this then ....
- I totally get the "extra baby" mantra hence I factor the extras I want into the price I am prepared to pay to get into a Latina's knickers which is currently £150 p/h tops. The base price on the profile means nothing to me as I know that is not the real price to get what I want.
- Re-read OP's question ... a penny or two just might drop that I actually disagree with OP so no need drag up negative reviews!

Finally the two poor examples you posted of SPs ... look at their hourly rate and re read the price point I quoted on profiles which cause punter anger if you want everything. If you're still confused about this point give me a hola!

[Steely Dan]

Ok.

I sorted the wiki page.

Glad you disagree with the OP who has now agreed he was in error. Hope you will focus on data rather than opinion going forward.  Maybe we can be aligned on many things in the future.