How much of your current practical sex education did you obtain from porn?

[Turtle Z]

Ever slap a girls arse while shouting Yee-ha? (Well maybe not the Yee-ha bit), ever spit on her clit, and I mean actually spit, not just use spit as lubricant, do you like to make girls gag on your cock? All practices that I think most WG's dislike (You may disagree?), though of course they get paid to pretend they've given you a good time and enjoyed it. A current 'thing' seems to be licking the girls ears, or so I'm told, again most seem to dislike it. There's quite an amusing thread running on SAAFE at the moment where a girl describes a guy rubbing her clit as though he was 'trying to get a stain out.' The upshot being that most punters don't know their way around a clit.

So, the question is, do you currently use and practice any techniques and methods you learned from watching porn and if so do you think it's made you more sexually accomplished? Or perhaps you don't care whether she enjoys it or not? You pay your money for your enjoyment not theirs?

[Marmalade]

I think porn maybe alerted me to changing positions instead of just banging away in one. Most other stuff I think was trial and error or prossies. One civvie (only my second) did teach me to relax a bit, but it's a lot easier to ask a prossie I guess as there's no emotional concern over 'what she might think if I ask' or 'what he will think if I sound too experienced'.

Directly to your point though, there was a film (I'm sure someone will remember what it was called) where they made a documentary of interviewing teenage lads 'for a porn movie' just to see what answers they gave. When asked about what sort of scenes they liked to do with a woman, a lot of them wanted to finish with a facial. Asked why, they said it was 'normal' and asked how they knew that they said 'from porn'.

After years of punting I find myself thinking its as good away to finish a punt as any. There's something aesthetic about gobbling a loaf of spunk over her face (especially if she's wearing make-up). Not met a woman yet who seems to appreciate the beauty of it though. 

[Home Alone]

Nope, pardner; not done the "Yee-ha" bit - I'm probably a bit too old for that! - but I've certainly "learned" a bit from some of the porn I've watched.

You're right of course, TZ; but being at the fluffier end of the punting spectrum, I've also tried to learn from listening to the girls I see regularly or semi-regularly.  One WG told me recently how "same-y" sessions with a Regular can often be.  I don't think she was saying, "boring"; more likely "routine".  Since then whenever I've gone back to someone I see fairly regularly, I've tried to make sure that I vary things a bit, possibly bringing in stuff I've seen in porn.  It brings an element of surprise to a session and hopefully makes it more enjoyable for both.

And if she's actually enjoying those changes, then I'll have a better session too.

[mikexxlong]

I think porn has affected a lot of peoples sexual activity and actions

Humans (as well as other species) mimic what they see; it’s a form of learning

So watching porn would be no different, some will copy what they see and hear
Some good and bad can come from doing that LOL

At a basic level its a case of “Monkey sees, monkey does “ 

[mediumjoe]

 There was a program on a while ago, American girls were going to the doctors with anal tears,  The boyfriends and maybe they thought anal was the natural/normal thing to do, ( after watching porn) ,  not realising that the first few times  you need a lot of patience and lube.  Sorry not speaking from experience .   Joe

[Turtle Z]

There was a program on a while ago, American girls were going to the doctors with anal tears,  The boyfriends and maybe they thought anal was the natural/normal thing to do, ( after watching porn) ,  not realising that the first few times  you need a lot of patience and lube.  Sorry not speaking from experience .   Joe

Good point Joe, I've met many a girl who's been put off anal by some dick who's thinks you can just ram it in indiscriminately. As you said, it requires patience, complete relaxation for the girl and lots of lube. You don't see that in porn though. 

[Turtle Z]

Directly to your point though, there was a film (I'm sure someone will remember what it was called) where they made a documentary of interviewing teenage lads 'for a porn movie' just to see what answers they gave. When asked about what sort of scenes they liked to do with a woman, a lot of them wanted to finish with a facial. Asked why, they said it was 'normal' and asked how they knew that they said 'from porn'.

I think I saw this, or maybe not because the one I remember was called 'Sex in Class' I think  discussed here...

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Teen boys discussing how they thought it was a girls duty to take the money shot.

[Georgejetson]

I think sex is all about "to each his (or her) own".. I have found a technique that was "accomplished" and gets great results with one girlfriend (divvy)  scared the crap out of another, and could result in a restraining order ("Officer, he approached my anus with his tounge!) . It's all about figuring out what slight or big  kink is in your or her head that you haven't unlocked yet, because the first time you ever unlock is amazing. Regretfully it eventually gets old. I think with a WG all you can work on is unlocking what's in your head that you didn't know. Never hers.  This is what is different about punting. Porn gives you ideas. Fantasy gives you ideas (at least the ones that give you a boner, to your surprise). You try these with a WG that "likes" these. And then yOu  learn about yourself. But this teaches you nothing about civvies. Which is fine. Porn+WGs solves only 1/2 the "getting good at sex" problem...you. But Thats the hardest part. Only Civvies teach you how to figure out the other 1/2.  IMHO

[cueball]

I can't think of anything directly linked to porn that I didn't already enjoy/do..... but I do think we're influenced by what we've watched but don't even realise it.

We've all been young lads and we've all watched plenty of porn, I think it's in our mindset without us realising.

If that makes sense 

[WhattheFlip]

I think I saw this, or maybe not because the one I remember was called 'Sex in Class' I think  discussed here...

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Teen boys discussing how they thought it was a girls duty to take the money shot.

What I hate about so many of those things now is they're all about making women feel as comfortable as possible with whatever their sexuality is, their hangups are fine, their expectations are all fine...But trying to shame men for what they want to do and basically telling men that sex is all about what the girl wants and everything has to be about going at her speed. Frankly you get the feeling that the attitude is "well guys are gonna cum anyway so that's them enjoying themselves isn't it!?"

Why should porn be described as non-realistic (apart from the obvious short-cuts taken for anal etc) when millions of men enjoy the kind of sex that is shown-and a lot of women too btw-and obviously want to have that kind of sex?

Why should men be made to feel bad that they want to give a girl a good seeing to and bust all over her face? Why should men/boys be made to feel that their sexuality is somehow 'wrong' and that they must only do what a girl wants? By the 'educators' own logic, if the girls wanted to do it the rough stuff, it would be perfectly okay and the guy should go along with it, but men are pretty much a misogynist pig if they make any demands of a girl at all!

I'm not a right-winger. I don't think 'feminazis' are taking over everything. I normally laugh when i see that kind of thing. But sex education (for kids and adults) seems to be one area where the equality point was reached long ago but women have somehow managed to keep going.

As for the actual question OP, I think what I attempt to take from porn is actually more the confidence of the top US performers like a Manuel Ferrara or Mick Blue or James Deen (before the rape stuff), the way they look at the girls, manhandle them, the way they can still be intimate and make the girls feel special whilst still being filthy and dominant and treating the girls like highly sexual beings. I find that everything else is just mechanics-in fact many male pornstars make scenes unwatchable for me, they're obviously filling a checklist.

[peter purves]

Why should porn be described as non-realistic (apart from the obvious short-cuts taken for anal etc) when millions of men enjoy the kind of sex that is shown-and a lot of women too btw-and obviously want to have that kind of sex?

If one ever gets  the chance to listen to the porn actresses talking about there experiences, there can be no debate that it is non-realistic. Without stating the obvious the porn industry is there to create and maintain a fantasy which  is a dialectical process between the porn industry and society.

[Turtle Z]

What I hate about so many of those things now is they're all about making women feel as comfortable as possible with whatever their sexuality is, their hangups are fine, their expectations are all fine...But trying to shame men for what they want to do and basically telling men that sex is all about what the girl wants and everything has to be about going at her speed. Frankly you get the feeling that the attitude is "well guys are gonna cum anyway so that's them enjoying themselves isn't it!?"

Why should porn be described as non-realistic (apart from the obvious short-cuts taken for anal etc) when millions of men enjoy the kind of sex that is shown-and a lot of women too btw-and obviously want to have that kind of sex?

Why should men be made to feel bad that they want to give a girl a good seeing to and bust all over her face? Why should men/boys be made to feel that their sexuality is somehow 'wrong' and that they must only do what a girl wants? By the 'educators' own logic, if the girls wanted to do it the rough stuff, it would be perfectly okay and the guy should go along with it, but men are pretty much a misogynist pig if they make any demands of a girl at all!

I'm not a right-winger. I don't think 'feminazis' are taking over everything. I normally laugh when i see that kind of thing. But sex education (for kids and adults) seems to be one area where the equality point was reached long ago but women have somehow managed to keep going.

As for the actual question OP, I think what I attempt to take from porn is actually more the confidence of the top US performers like a Manuel Ferrara or Mick Blue or James Deen (before the rape stuff), the way they look at the girls, manhandle them, the way they can still be intimate and make the girls feel special whilst still being filthy and dominant and treating the girls like highly sexual beings. I find that everything else is just mechanics-in fact many male pornstars make scenes unwatchable for me, they're obviously filling a checklist.

Good post, I don't agree with all of it, but nevertheless...

[WhattheFlip]

If one ever gets  the chance to listen to the porn actresses talking about there experiences, there can be no debate that it is non-realistic. Without stating the obvious the porn industry is there to create and maintain a fantasy which  is a dialectical process between the porn industry and society.

Perhaps I used confusing phraseology. I know it's not 2 people who are very much in love just having regular couple sex. I know it's stop start and mechanical and they're thinking about angles etc. The point i was trying to make was more about the style of sex i.e. generally towards the rougher/dirtier end of the spectrum. And if men actually enjoy watching that and want to have sex like that, why should their sexuality be considered invalid.
I've heard plenty of pornstars talking about how much they fucking love the sex they had/have in porn. I've heard retired girls saying it's kind of ruined their romantic life because it's hard to find civvie guys who can fuck them in the manner they want.
It's normally the ones who have been turned by the religious right or didn't get to make the millions they naively thought they would, or caught a disease, who start slagging it off, despite the fact they were blatantly loving it at the time. Eg. Jessie Rogers-In her fucking element in most of her scenes, clearly having the time of her fucking life, even accounting for the 'performance' aspect. But she was turned by the anti-porn nutters and has found a lucrative sideline in giving talks slating the industry and talking about how terrible everything was. Utter balls.
Not saying it's all peachy at all, btw. Just that plenty of women like to be fucked like, well, a pornstar. The ones who purely do it for the money do have a choice about what they do on camera, but their greed allows them to do shit they're not comfortable with, which is sad but they can't really complain after the fact.
The style of sex is perfectly realistic, but there seems a movement to completely invalidate those people who enjoy that kind of thing.

[peter purves]

Perhaps I used confusing phraseology. I know it's not 2 people who are very much in love just having regular couple sex. I know it's stop start and mechanical and they're thinking about angles etc. The point i was trying to make was more about the style of sex i.e. generally towards the rougher/dirtier end of the spectrum. And if men actually enjoy watching that and want to have sex like that, why should their sexuality be considered invalid.
I've heard plenty of pornstars talking about how much they fucking love the sex they had/have in porn. I've heard retired girls saying it's kind of ruined their romantic life because it's hard to find civvie guys who can fuck them in the manner they want.
It's normally the ones who have been turned by the religious right or didn't get to make the millions they naively thought they would, or caught a disease, who start slagging it off, despite the fact they were blatantly loving it at the time. Eg. Jessie Rogers-In her fucking element in most of her scenes, clearly having the time of her fucking life, even accounting for the 'performance' aspect. But she was turned by the anti-porn nutters and has found a lucrative sideline in giving talks slating the industry and talking about how terrible everything was. Utter balls.
Not saying it's all peachy at all, btw. Just that plenty of women like to be fucked like, well, a pornstar. The ones who purely do it for the money do have a choice about what they do on camera, but their greed allows them to do shit they're not comfortable with, which is sad but they can't really complain after the fact.
The style of sex is perfectly realistic, but there seems a movement to completely invalidate those people who enjoy that kind of thing.

Cheers,

I think one of the issue of porns is that it primarily made by men, for men with women just periphery to it. I think this is one of the main critique as you suggest to 'invalidate those people who enjoy that kind of thing'.

As you can pick up, I am not a fan of porn (anymore). Meeting ex-porn now WGs may well be the biggest factor in this respect, and they did not speak negatively of the industry as such but more a reading inbetween the lines got me thinking

I am reminded of a tv show where fans of porn met their heroes but behind and away from the 'fantasy'.

[peter purves]

To answer the thread's initial question - For me very little

Breast relief was derived from porn.

Though I probably used more techniques from ancient China (in civvy and punting world).

For instance:

Chinese Nine Sex Technique

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[Jumping Jack Flash]

Not much really.

I'm 50 and before porn was readily available, I learnt more reading the problem pages in magazines like Cosmopolitan. I thought that reading things from a woman's perspective would give me a different perspective and it did!

Of course in later years porn has influenced me in certain areas, particularly facials but when I was at my most sexually inquisitive it was problem pages that educated me.

[Marmalade]

I think I saw this, or maybe not because the one I remember was called 'Sex in Class' I think  discussed here...

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Teen boys discussing how they thought it was a girls duty to take the money shot.

Nah, I remember it was an award-winning director so had a look round... Ken Clark, whose feature films have mostly won awards and/or got banned, this was a short as part of a four-director feature film ... recognised it after watching a few minutes.

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[Turtle Z]

I'm 50 and before porn was readily available, I learnt more reading the problem pages in magazines like Cosmopolitan.

Ah, a man with a classical education!

[Desimonic]

Porn didn't play apart in the early stages of my punting life, But as time goes by and I become more adventurous it has shown me a few techniques that i tried on WGs.

Must admit was a get way to learn the dom/sub play