Barebacker. Does it matter?

[Professor4]

There are some lovely looking girls who happen to offer bareback. As long as you wear a condom when you have a go on her does it matter that she has fucked bareback? Let’s face it even the girls that don’t offer it as a service all fuck someone bareback anyway.

[Ess0]

Yes as you can catch STI/STD’s from owo plus it shows a blatant disregard for there own sexual health. Not worth the risk seeing someone who will play Russian roulette with there own health let alone yours

[JamesKW]

Without seeing the links it depends what else they are offering,if they have a likes list (usually prepared by Sergie) which includes everything including sybian and scat for £80 then you can assume BB is probably not on the menu.

[Blackpool Rock]

Great a bareback thread, don't think this has been covered before 

[milo]

It's up to you what risks you are prepared to take. No one else knows what your circumstances are.

This question often seems to be asked. I sometimes think it is asked by a punter who wants to be told it is ok. Obviously, I've no idea if my suspicion is ever correct.

[Blackpool Rock]

Double post, computer froze

[shagmore]

There are some lovely looking girls who happen to offer bareback. As long as you wear a condom when you have a go on her does it matter that she has fucked bareback? Let’s face it even the girls that don’t offer it as a service all fuck someone bareback anyway.

You can look at it like that, as long as you don't do anything but fuck her. Bu why take the chance.
Also if she is doing BB how do you know she is regularly tested (same can be said about all WGs)
Its you life, take the chance, up to you.
No one can tell you its OK, if you are older enough to punt, then you are old enough to make this discussion yourself without asking other punters who do not do BB. Views on here are quite common wrt BBers,
If your into BB then sure there are forums just for that, but don't come crawling back with some disease that you have cought from someone that has done BB and expect any sympathy.

[justapunter]

Only you can make the decision to see a bareback escort. If you do I'd  rubber up for oral and sex. Wouldn't risk owo.

[Marmalade]

You only know she’s a barebacker because she advertises it. A punter should rubber up anyway. Logically it might be hard to prove there is any greater risk after rubbering up than with a WG who doesn’t advertise it, but one no-no is that she’s maybe whacko or badly trafficked, and a big one is that if you were to book her using the AW system you risk getting blacklisted by other WGs.

[Daffodil]

I assume all prossies bareback somebody and take the necessary precautions. I’ve had girls who state they don’t do it offer it to me, and I don’t have regulars so it’s not like I’ve gained their trust. I agree that it does imply that they don’t take as great care of their sexual health as somebody who refuses bareback. I have fucked girls who offer it, but all else being equal is book the one who doesn’t.

[Belgarion]

It matters when you get HIV

[cambsguy]

Yes as you can catch STI/STD’s from owo plus it shows a blatant disregard for there own sexual health. Not worth the risk seeing someone who will play Russian roulette with there own health let alone yours

But if u get owo you are open to the same risks with a non barebacker surely? If prossie a does bb and prossie b does safe plus owo/cim would you not run the same risk of catching the same with either?

[Marmalade]

It matters when you get HIV

That it’s a low transmission rate anyway from oral sex is reduced virtually to nil if you are then wearing a condom.

But honestly, I think anyone obsessing over such things is not ready to go punting. Instinct and ‘common sense’ says avoid barebackers, and always wear a condom. Hardly something for paranoia. I don’t book anyone on AW who advertises bareback and if I did I’d wear a condom for vaginal and oral sex. If a girl looks dodgy I won’t have OWO with her but again that’s based on less-than-rational factors (I don’t want to stick my knob in a mouth of someone who looks like a druggie, has sores on her mouth or teeth like ice picks). I’m hardly going to request a medical certificate and compare it to statistics for her grouping and assess the reliability of the certificate and ask how many times has she sucked a geeky knob since getting it and if she always tells the truth.  Gonny is a higher risk with OWO and even with OW, as with several other relatively minor infections but even that is incredibly rare (of the couple of examples from punters on here, maybe one in 500 for gonny from OWO and only that if you’re unlucky; for OW you’d have to stick your fingers down her throat for a sample and rub it into your dick after removing the rubber).


 

[Robinh191]

Some STIs can be spread through skin to skin skin contact. I don't know if the incidence of this method of transmission is higher in barebackers. Best speak to a doctor down at a GUM clinic.

[mrdiamond77]

Of course it matters.  Don't want a STI do you?  Not worth the risk, and best to get regularly tested yourself too.

[Real John Doe]

A lot of punters appear to be against WGs that offer BB

But

A lot of punters also want/need DFK from WGs, even when they offer OWO, CIM and facials

[Steely Dan]

Class, class settle down. Let's answer this by doing algebra.

X is the chance that any girl has a bad STD. X times T is the chance that a girl who BB random punters has STD. Pick your own T.  Don't you think T is positive?  So XT is greater than X. Even if she tests often (most likely a lie but anyway) she might have BB fucked Ugly Ronnie just 10 days ago.

Chance that you get an STD when fucking with a condom a girl with a STD.  Z.  Z= Perhaps 1 in 10 if she has it? One in 100? Whatever. So anyway ZXT > ZX

Chances are not less.

Then plenty-of-fish rule applies. Chance that only chance of a good fuck is the BB girl? Nil.  There are always other options.

I am not squimish.  I take risks.  Risks that have advantages. But for me, fucking escorts who BB has no upside.  There are always many options. POF.

[Marmalade]

I agree with Steely Dan (I think — the algebra could be a bit clearer but this in not a maths forum). What pisses me off occasionally is the scare mongering STD threads. They are getting more sophisticated but experienced members know that a fair number of people get banned for going over the score — it just encourages dubious accusations.

Bareback / Unprotected sex
Allowed, but other members have the right to express disapproval of such activities.

Allegations of sexually transmitted diseases
Past incidents has shown such extreme and damaging allegations to be malicious and from troublemakers or simply mistaken. Therefore it is not acceptable to make such allegations against others.

This isn’t a medical forum either. We can exchange general information and the vast majority of opinion is don’t touch barebackers — but if someone is concerned about the technical aspects of STDs (which can be pretty involved) then they should access medical forums and online medical journals, of which there is no shortage.

The other advice I’d throw in (just my opinion) apart from a)use a rubber and b) avoid known barebackers, is, c) if you have a s/o, or are married, and have an active sexual relationship, either avoid OWO or, depending on your risk calibration / personal definition of safe sex, leave a couple of weeks before fucking them. Gonny and chlamydia are the most common (though rare) STDs transmitted orally. They both need Gum Clinic treatment but only the first is more likely to have obvious symptoms. Treatment for chlamydia is a bit more straightforward and can be purchased online. Thrush, although not an STD, can be passed back and forward by sexual contact and more noticeable in women (treatment with or without symptoms is simple and no prescription required — Fluconazole in a pill or Canestan cream sorts it, with or without symptoms). There’s others but like I said, they are a bigger deal if you are having sex with a s/o or are married.

[cunningman]

Pick your own T.  Don't you think T is positive?  So XT is greater than X.

Maybe T>1?

[Steely Dan]

Maybe T>1?

Touche.  I should have paid better attention in maths but there was this nerdy girl with big nipples and (mostly) no bra who sat near me - hard to concentrate.

My point was POF.