Please Be Careful What You Divulge In PMs.

[smiths]

So we have a thread where the member West8 is saying he has had PM exchanges with some punters where they have divulged specific information to him. I hope this is bollocks and no one has given West or indeed any other complete stranger specific info and obviously more importantly real life personal info about themselves in PMs.

Please be VERY careful what info you do give in a PM. If the other poster happens to be well dodgy as i now view West as being who knows what they might do with it. My advice is only give general info. None of us know how dodgy a poster we havent been able to judge over a period of time so they havent built up credibility could be.

And of course it goes without saying though i shall say it, also be VERY careful what you post on the open forum.

[nervyfooker]

   Topic: Please Be Careful What You Divulge In PMs.

100% agreed.
but also be careful what you post openly:

i already(think)i know that West8
is [Removed]
too much info to share, i fucking hope he uses a punting phone

[Daffodil]

   Topic: Please Be Careful What You Divulge In PMs.

100% agreed.
but also be careful what you post openly:

i already(think)i know that West8
is [Removed]
too much info to share, i fucking hope he uses a punting phone

And too much information that you have summarised 

FFS, don't go analysing punter's posts and then post summaries like this 

[nervyfooker]

Fair point,perhaps someone can edit my post.
however i didn't trawl through his posts,those were just things
i remembered,any wg with a grievance could join the dots in a few minutes.

[Jimmyredcab]

OK for me, I have nothing to hide, no wife, no partner and under current law punting is not illegal.   

[west8]

member West8 is saying he has had PM exchanges with some punters where they have divulged specific information to him.

Specific information such as which girl I might like to try meet. I think you got the wrong end of the stick here smiths, which is unusual for you to be fair. You're confusing 'specifics' with 'suggestions'.

If the other poster happens to be well dodgy as i now view West as being

Nice welcome, thanks.

None of us know how dodgy a poster we havent been able to judge over a period of time so they havent built up credibility could be.

I guess you overlooked PN then - same nick there. Or do you mean 'years' of time' / 8,000 posts / 50+ reviews?

And of course it goes without saying though i shall say it, also be VERY careful what you post on the open forum.

Common sense. Nothing I have posted is personally identifying - despite the efforts of Sherlock Holmes above.

[finn5555]

Just exercise caution if you have something / anything to hide about your private life. Certain individuals on here I trust but many I don't 

[Jimmyredcab]

Just exercise caution if you have something / anything to hide about your private life. Certain individuals on here I trust but many I don't

You can't trust ANYONE unless you have met them in the real world, I have met Jerboa, NIK, Big one ----------- and a few others who are no longer members.

[finn5555]

You can't trust ANYONE unless you have met them in the real world, I have met Jerboa, NIK, Big one ----------- and a few others who are no longer members.

Jim I meant trust in the virtual world to share information with only nothing personal I hasten to add 

[CaptainRoscoe]

And I was just about to post my NIS number on here. Thanks for the heads up. 

[smiths]

Specific information such as which girl I might like to try meet. I think you got the wrong end of the stick here smiths, which is unusual for you to be fair. You're confusing 'specifics' with 'suggestions'.


Nice welcome, thanks.

 

I guess you overlooked PN then - same nick there. Or do you mean 'years' of time' / 8,000 posts / 50+ reviews?


Common sense. Nothing I have posted is personally identifying - despite the efforts of Sherlock Holmes above.

I dont care what you think, other punters can take or leave what i posted as they wish.

[west8]

And I was just about to post my NIS number on here. Thanks for the heads up. 

hahaha!

Some members are way too paranoid. Security/anonymity is easy if you care. Personally, I don't.

[LL]

hahaha!

Some members are way too paranoid. Security/anonymity is easy if you care. Personally, I don't.

Eh? Wasn't this you, yesterday?!

Reply received a few minutes later: ‘call me please’. As I was at home, I actually went down three flights of stairs to make sure I wouldn’t be overheard. Even then I probably sounded like a fucking weirdo as it was hard not to whisper.

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=40463.0

So I think that you DO care about discretion.
Just take the advice mate, no need to be a dick about it.

[Tjkooker]

Eh? Wasn't this you, yesterday?!https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=40463.0

So I think that you DO care about discretion.
Just take the advice mate, no need to be a dick about it.

Haha west8. No matter what you post someone easily picks fault. Get the message and move on.

[finn5555]

Haha west8. No matter what you post someone easily picks fault. Get the message and move on.

Who was the other fella who posted 24/7 on every thread and got banned in the end 
West8 reminds me of him 

[jjpsweet]

Vorian??

[Quesadilla]

OK for me, I have nothing to hide, no wife, no partner and under current law punting is not illegal.   

+1... although probably don't want my work colleagues to find out. As you say, not illegal but might be frowned upon come my next performance review.  Hmm...in that case I could always put forward my positive AW fb to demonstrate my continued good performance!   

[finn5555]

Vorian??

That's the fella  similarities a plenty with West8 

[Tjkooker]

Nah west8 is malicious.  Vorian was just a lost soul.

[yorkshire123]

Nah west8 is malicious.  Vorian was just a lost soul.

Totally agree, wet8 is just an Infosneaker wannabe 

[finn5555]

Totally agree, wet8 is just an Infosneaker wannabe 

True but both quickly forgotten 

[punk]

You can't trust ANYONE unless you have met them in the real world, I have met Jerboa, NIK, Big one ----------- and a few others who are no longer members.

Even than how well do you really know some one?

[Jimmyredcab]

Even than how well do you really know some one?

It doesn't really matter to me, as I said earlier I am not cheating on a wife or partner so my life is an open book, all my friends know that I punt, other cab drivers know that I punt, I don't have to park three blocks from the pro$$ies address. 

[Tailpipe]

It doesn't really matter to me, as I said earlier I am not cheating on a wife or partner so my life is an open book, all my friends know that I punt, other cab drivers know that I punt, I don't have to park three blocks from the pro$$ies address. 

Does put you out of reach Jim no one to answer to. It's a good place to be .

[Jimmyredcab]

Does put you out of reach Jim no one to answer to. It's a good place to be .

Of course I wouldn't want my photo on the front page of The Sun, but then who would be interested in a manky old cab driver ------ no one.   

[west8]

Eh? Wasn't this you, yesterday?!https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=40463.0

So I think that you DO care about discretion.
Just take the advice mate, no need to be a dick about it.

It's not my fault if you can't ascertain the difference between discretion and anonymity.

Why on earth would I want to be overheard booking an escort? That is called being discreet and has nothing to do with anonymity and security as any dictionary makes perfectly clear.

[Tjkooker]

I'm sure the Daily Mirror could create a headline for you jimmy.

[LL]

Why on earth would I want to be overheard booking an escort?

Why on earth would you want to be telling us where you live?
What you write here stays here forever.  If you keep dropping little clues then over time, eventually, somebody - e.g. a WG who holds a grudge against you for some reason, might be able to figure out who you are - and OUT you.
Maintain discretion here too if you want to remain anonymous.  That was my point.

   

[west8]

I didn't tell you where I live. I did tell one member who asked, but as my borough has a resident population of some 500,000 people that's suitably vague.

That said, you all know my postal code - there's a small hint in my chosen forum nick. If you think that is personally identifying information, then good luck.

None of us are breaking the law in pursuing this activity so I don't particularly see what the problem is. That is why I use my real christian name and my everyday phone number and email address.

[andrei]

I didn't tell you where I live. I did tell one member who asked, but as my borough has a resident population of some 500,000 people that's suitably vague.

That said, you all know my postal code - there's a small hint in my chosen forum nick. If you think that is personally identifying information, then good luck.

None of us are breaking the law in pursuing this activity so I don't particularly see what the problem is. That is why I use my real christian name and my everyday phone number and email address.

real name, phone number and email address but uses a proxy server because (quoted from another thread) "what sort of idiot would connect from home"

there are so many contradictions in your story i am surprised you're still here

[west8]

There is no contradiction if you read the 'story' as you put it, in its entirety.

I use Firefox - which has a convenient extension called Foxyproxy. Perhaps some of you may know it. I do not use an anonymous proxy server located in some mysterious EE backwater, I run all my online activity through my OWN dedicated server - to which I alone have SSH access and which runs (among other services), Squid and Socks5 proxies. This ensures that anything and everything I choose to do online is untraceable / untrackable by the likes of Google, Apple, Microsoft et al. It does NOT mean my IP address is either masked or interchangable. It is not. I can access this site from any location on earth and yet my 'location' would remain the same. Ditto any device - be it Windows, Linux or Android.

Now, the Admin of this site is obviously similarly tech-minded and checked out my IP address and all the 'consistencies' in my story as you choose to call them. I'm sure you'd agree that anyone who is able to run a forum of this size is experienced in both backend and frontend server management.

That being the case, either trust the security measures that are in place here to detect those that seek to access the forum for whatever nefarious reasons, or stop complaining and bitching about your clearly misinformed notions and understanding of 'security'.

[Tjkooker]

Your getting more and more like infowanker(arsehole) every post.
Paragraph after paragraph of drivel, condescending praise for admin in an attempt to suck up followed up by an insult and abuse for the person who has dared to question you.
Next you will be telling us how experienced a punter you are and how we should all feel so priveledged to have you here. Oh that's right you've already tried that one.
Sometimes intelligent people are the dumbest.

[brolin_76]

No idea what gives you that impression. I remember Dear Jimmy from the original PN board 15 years ago.

I made an observation based on looking at Nicole's pictures.

Personally I couldn't give a fuck about redcab's opinion, but he's as entitled to hold one as the rest of us.

I wonder what is his nick in pnet?

[Stealthshagger]

one of my experiences of this forum is that genuine punters are direct so will sometime sound abrasive at first, but ultimately genuine punters look out for each other. Its a key part of modern punting, actually.  With warnings, the heads up, pms, moving to get info removed if it is inadvertently public etc.  The problem is knowing a) who the exceptions are b) who is not a real punter, as it were. there are large numbers of interwebz spetsnaz these days, and many fantasists.  An issue is that this forum attracts people who seek out punters, rather than punting info also.

actually sending out identifying information is full on fucking retarded, and naivete shouldnt lead one to do it.

Its worth pointing out:
1)genuine punters dont want identifying or personal info about other punters. it can have no legitimate use. nor is there a need for personal or identifying info about wgs. Obviously, by personal, I exclude things like loves anal, gorgeous long labia etc which is info inherent to the pursuit we share but would be considered very personal about a civvie woman.

2) genuine wgs dont want personal or identifying info about punters, nor do they want to give it out about themselves. Neither can have a legitimate use.

[west8]

Your getting more and more like infowanker(arsehole) every post.
Paragraph after paragraph of drivel, condescending praise for admin in an attempt to suck up followed up by an insult and abuse for the person who has dared to question you.
Next you will be telling us how experienced a punter you are and how we should all feel so priveledged to have you here. Oh that's right you've already tried that one.
Sometimes intelligent people are the dumbest.

For some reason you always seek to confront rather than to discuss. I don't know why you are so hostile, but I guess that's how you like to approach conversation. I have offered no praise to the Admin. I have pointed out that you folks are clearly failing to make a distinction between security and safety. The two are mutually exclusive.

It is such a shame that you have the time to reply without offering constructive criticism, but you clearly enjoy it so please be my guest. As mentioned elsewhere, any of you are welcome to question my motives. I do not care which conclusions you draw - that is up to you.

For the record: my PN nick is the same as this one: West8.

[brolin_76]

For some reason you always seek to confront rather than to discuss. I don't know why you are so hostile, but I guess that's how you like to approach conversation. I have offered no praise to the Admin. I have pointed out that you folks are clearly failing to make a distinction between security and safety. The two are mutually exclusive.

It is such a shame that you have the time to reply without offering constructive criticism, but you clearly enjoy it so please be my guest. As mentioned elsewhere, any of you are welcome to question my motives. I do not care which conclusions you draw - that is up to you.

For the record: my PN nick is the same as this one: West8.

But west8 joined in pnet 23 july 14 and you said you remember Jimmy from Pnet 15 years ago

[west8]

Yes, because I was a reader of the old 'white' forum - as I have already mentioned on more than one occasion.

[brolin_76]

Yes, because I was a reader of the old forum - as I have already mentioned on one occasion.

No you were a poster and got banned from pnet

[west8]

Yes, of course that would be your logical conclusion. Please elaborate as you clearly seem to know more than I do about my punting forum history.

[brolin_76]

Yes, of course that would be your logical conclusion. Please elaborate as you clearly seem to know more than I do about my punting forum history.

Where have you been since you joined this forum after 3 posts. Forgot to post for two months? Come on Antony tell the truth why are here?

[west8]

I'm not sure why I am having this conversation with a newer member than I myself am, but I will indulge you if you wish.

Please cross-reference my PN posts requesting information about AW with my subsequent activity and reviews here.

Then give it a rest.

[brolin_76]

I'm not sure why I am having this conversation with a newer member than I myself am, but I will indulge you if you wish.

Please cross-reference my PN posts requesting information about AW with my subsequent activity and reviews here.

Then give it a rest.

Literally how old you are as member of ukp than me no more than 1month but I will summarize the dodgy bugger of all. Antony tell the truth

[Tjkooker]

I'm not sure why I am having this conversation with a newer member than I myself am, but I will indulge you if you wish.

Please cross-reference my PN posts requesting information about AW with my subsequent activity and reviews here.

Then give it a rest.

Ha trying to play the seniority of joining date card now. What a fucking wanker.
Yes I'm always on the offensive with pricks like you. No wish to enter pointless debate with you. Merely point out that you are a fucking WANKER.

[west8]

Thank you for proving my point. Enjoy your evening.

[Daffodil]

Does put you out of reach Jim no one to answer to. It's a good place to be .

In some way it appeals, but equally I wouldn't really want a life where I have "no one to answer to". Sounds pretty lonely to me.

[Stealthshagger]

In some way it appeals, but equally I wouldn't really want a life where I have "no one to answer to". Sounds pretty lonely to me.

no one to answer to just means not answerable to anybody I think. I dont think it means no mates or anyone in their life, the way I read it. Think bachelor, not cat lady me thinks.

[Daffodil]

no one to answer to just means not answerable to anybody I think. I dont think it means no mates or anyone in their life, the way I read it. Think bachelor, not cat lady me thinks.

To me, for some people here, it means no partner, no family, no close friends. Most of the time spent alone, holidaying alone and the such.

That's fine. Some people prefer life that way.

However, it isn't for me and that's my point. The idea of being able to punt and not worry about being outed is great, but for me that would only be possible if I didn't have other people in my life.

[Stealthshagger]

To me, for some people here, it means no partner, no family, no close friends. Most of the time spent alone, holidaying alone and the such.

That's fine. Some people prefer life that way.

However, it isn't for me and that's my point. The idea of being able to punt and not worry about being outed is great, but for me that would only be possible if I didn't have other people in my life.

Fair enough. in my case it just means being single and having no spouse. I feel I answer to no one but myself, but I have plenty of friends and family and so forth, and very many of them all nearby so I see many them all the time. I just delineate between the accountability of a spouse or relationship ( personally I wouldnt punt in a relationship), and others. As for where I place stealth junior, I dont have anyone in my life that can claim to be involved in the decision making or lay claim to it, other than myself.

I think we might be at different stages of life, so might read a line as meaning very different things, and with rather different connotations.

[Daffodil]

Fair enough. in my case it just means being single and having no spouse. I feel I answer to no one but myself, but I have plenty of friends and family and so forth, and very many of them all nearby so I see many them all the time. I just delineate between the accountability of a spouse or relationship ( personally I wouldnt punt in a relationship), and others. As for where I place stealth junior, I dont have anyone in my life that can claim to be involved in the decision making or lay claim to it, other than myself.

I think we might be at different stages of life, so might read a line as meaning very different things, and with rather different connotations.

Do all your friends and family know that you punt? If not, does their finding out bother you?

[Stealthshagger]

Do all your friends and family know that you punt? If not, does their finding out bother you?

nope. no family do, but they know I have had a pattern of enjoying the company of a diverse and large number of different women when I have been single in the past. Basically I have been very sexually liberated when single in the past, and all my relatives are aware of this. As for my mates, some do, as they do too. I just never mention them or any of their punts here as it would be up to them to do so. Alot dont, but they wouldnt ask or guess it either.

If someone sees me on a way to a punt, they wouldnt know it. I think as punters we assume things are tell tales often, when to non punters they havent got the faintest hint.

Noone checks my phone, listens in to my calls, emails etc sees my bills etc.   And noone can claim an expectation to my fidelity or that where my cock goes is their business. that is really my answering to nobody understanding.

I see you take it very differently though. Do any friends or relatives of yours know you punt?