Time wasters….

[Circusboy]

Just a general moan about girls who put “no time wasters” on their profiles.

I am sure that a lot of girls get guys who ‘pull out’ at the las miniute and either cancel or just don’t turn up. I’m sure it costs them a fair bit of trade. However, it should’ve noted that time wasters goes both ways and recently I’ve made arrangements and then only to be told later that they “feel unwell” or ‘can we do another date’. I even had it once where I booked a dungeon and they didn’t show up. Not only is this annoying it is costly too.

Today my balls are about to explode and I’ve just got the ‘I don’t feel well’. It has obliterated my small window of opportunity for filthy play.

I’ve never given a review on here for my no shows. I don’t know why I just didn’t feel it was appropriate. I still hope to see the lady in question from today, but should I really be so nice to them about it?

[daviemac]

As you've never bothered to post reviews of escorts you've had agreed bookings with but who have cancelled at the last minute so others are aware of the possibility of it happening, we don't know if they had 'no timewasters' on their profiles or not.

It's quite unfair to label all escort who stipulate 'no timewasters' as timewasters themselves without any evidence to support the claim.

[alabama1]

Just a general moan about girls who put “no time wasters” on their profiles.

I am sure that a lot of girls get guys who ‘pull out’ at the las miniute and either cancel or just don’t turn up. I’m sure it costs them a fair bit of trade. However, it should’ve noted that time wasters goes both ways and recently I’ve made arrangements and then only to be told later that they “feel unwell” or ‘can we do another date’. I even had it once where I booked a dungeon and they didn’t show up. Not only is this annoying it is costly too.

Today my balls are about to explode and I’ve just got the ‘I don’t feel well’. It has obliterated my small window of opportunity for filthy play.

I’ve never given a review on here for my no shows. I don’t know why I just didn’t feel it was appropriate. I still hope to see the lady in question from today, but should I really be so nice to them about it?

No shows and negative punts  are just as important to document on here as good one,s, even more so in fact, as it prevents the members wasting their money. 

[Southernbloke]

I think it’s fair to say that nobody likes having their time wasted. However sometimes life gets in the way of the best laid plans. Also what other people deem as a poor excuse for cancelling a booking could be a cover for a very personal problem that the person doesn’t really want to share with someone they hardly know.
Just my opinion of course but SP’s I have met and got to know have told me that a bad excuse is better than sharing personal information.

[twotight]

as somebody that has been called a time waster for simply walking away my advise to them is simply put more accurate photos and don't try to charge for extras that a normally part of a most punts

[Adoniron]

A punter who cancels for any reason whatsoever is a time waster.

A SP who cancels or fails to show up will always have a good reason.

These are the rules so far as SPs are concerned.

[Lecoamraam]

A punter who cancels for any reason whatsoever is a time waster.

A SP who cancels or fails to show up will always have a good reason.

These are the rules so far as SPs are concerned.

But a punter cancelling on an SP is essentially money lost for the SP. A punter who suffers a cancel will have his time/opportunity to punt wasted, but keeps his cash. In my opinion, the effect of time wastage is not the same for both parties
So maybe time wasting is not the right name to describe it.

[Adoniron]

But a punter cancelling on an SP is essentially money lost for the SP. A punter who suffers a cancel will have his time/opportunity to punt wasted, but keeps his cash. In my opinion, the effect of time wastage is not the same for both parties
So maybe time wasting is not the right name to describe it.

If either the punter or the SP cancels for a genuine, legitimate reason its not time wasting.

Its clearly time wasting if the punter CBA to show up or if the SP doesn't show up or cancels because she CBA to work or gets a better booking.

If a punter is cancelled on he keeps his money but may lose a rare opportunity for a punt. Its not easy making other arrangements at the last minute.

[Jonestown]

But a punter cancelling on an SP is essentially money lost for the SP. A punter who suffers a cancel will have his time/opportunity to punt wasted, but keeps his cash. In my opinion, the effect of time wastage is not the same for both parties
So maybe time wasting is not the right name to describe it.

The effect on SPs can be minimised if the punter lets them know asap that they can not make the meet, then they have a chance to pick up another booking, that’s down to the punter being considerate, but as others have said sometimes your window of opportunity shuts down at the last moment.

It’s not true that cancelled punters suffer no financial loss, if you read posts on here it’s evident that any number of punters travel considerable distances to punts, paying travel costs, even booking hotels.

[Lecoamraam]

It’s not true that cancelled punters suffer no financial loss, if you read posts on here it’s evident that any number of punters travel considerable distances to punts, paying travel costs, even booking hotels.

Granted, that is a possibility and it would be a real monetary setback with no way to compensate.

[Bru1901]

As a golden rule. If you get fucked about by a sp

Shes no longer plan A

Keep her as a plan C or D

Her loss

[LLPunting]

But a punter cancelling on an SP is essentially money lost for the SP. A punter who suffers a cancel will have his time/opportunity to punt wasted, but keeps his cash. In my opinion, the effect of time wastage is not the same for both parties
So maybe time wasting is not the right name to describe it.

There is no money lost only opportunity.  She hasn't earned that money by taking a booking, she hasn't delivered any service.
There are no signed contracts on incontravertible terms.  All arrangements are subject to availability, honesty of offer and change of circumstance on either party's behalf.
You'll be arguing that walking into a shop commits a browser to making a purchase next.  Shoppers can pick things up then change their mind without prejudice up to the moment of purchase provided they have not deliberately damaged or (part) consumed the product prematurely.
Where's the compensation if she's shit at delivering her service, why should her earnings be considered assured when nothing about her offering is guaranteed?

Why does a punter cancel or no show?
1)  He's an a-hole timewaster with no intent to go in the first place.
2)  He's nervous and easily dissuaded by his own internal dialog
3)  He's put off by something the SP does or doesn't do to instill confidence in the booking.
4)  Something comes up to prevent him turning up
5)  The SP proves to be not as expected or promised wrt looks, age, attitude, nationality, ethnicity, etc.  Timely posting of reviews with current details about an SP can prevent ill-founded interest and booking or hasty cancellation. 

In all but 1) if he notifies the SP before the time of the meeting (the sooner the better) then he has done his part in acting in good faith and consideration.

[jimbobted]

Just a general moan about girls who put “no time wasters” on their profiles.

I am sure that a lot of girls get guys who ‘pull out’ at the las miniute and either cancel or just don’t turn up. I’m sure it costs them a fair bit of trade. However, it should’ve noted that time wasters goes both ways and recently I’ve made arrangements and then only to be told later that they “feel unwell” or ‘can we do another date’. I even had it once where I booked a dungeon and they didn’t show up. Not only is this annoying it is costly too.

Today my balls are about to explode and I’ve just got the ‘I don’t feel well’. It has obliterated my small window of opportunity for filthy play.

I’ve never given a review on here for my no shows. I don’t know why I just didn’t feel it was appropriate. I still hope to see the lady in question from today, but should I really be so nice to them about it?

I've also had a dungeon booked for a meet that didn't happen. The girl went radio silent in the lead up though, and I deduced it wasn't happening, so at least I wasn't stood there holding my cock. Did lose the dungeon fee though. A second attempt worked out and was good fun.
I do end up seeing (or trying to) see flakier girls because my preference is for part timers as I feel they tend to provide the service I like. I view it as just a fact of life. But I do review the no shows and late cancellers. If I can help others avoid the flakiest then that's all good. I even had a girl contact me after seeing my no show review and although she was pissedoff about it, we had an honest conversation and I've seen her several times now and is one of my favourites. If I hadn't posted that reed review and just not tried to book her again I'd have missed out big time.

[Hobbit]

As you've never bothered to post reviews of escorts you've had agreed bookings with but who have cancelled at the last minute so others are aware of the possibility of it happening, we don't know if they had 'no timewasters' on their profiles or not.

It's quite unfair to label all escort who stipulate 'no timewasters' as timewasters themselves without any evidence to support the claim.

Sorry, Dave but unless I'm misreading it, he hasn't stipulated that. All he has said is that time-wasting goes both ways. He hasn't said that all escorts are time wasters. So let's not generalise here.

[Mr Sinister]

There is no money lost only opportunity.  She hasn't earned that money by taking a booking, she hasn't delivered any service.
There are no signed contracts on incontravertible terms.  All arrangements are subject to availability, honesty of offer and change of circumstance on either party's behalf.
You'll be arguing that walking into a shop commits a browser to making a purchase next.  Shoppers can pick things up then change their mind without prejudice up to the moment of purchase provided they have not deliberately damaged or (part) consumed the product prematurely.
Where's the compensation if she's shit at delivering her service, why should her earnings be considered assured when nothing about her offering is guaranteed?

Why does a punter cancel or no show?
1)  He's an a-hole timewaster with no intent to go in the first place.
2)  He's nervous and easily dissuaded by his own internal dialog
3)  He's put off by something the SP does or doesn't do to instill confidence in the booking.
4)  Something comes up to prevent him turning up
5)  The SP proves to be not as expected or promised wrt looks, age, attitude, nationality, ethnicity, etc.  Timely posting of reviews with current details about an SP can prevent ill-founded interest and booking or hasty cancellation. 

In all but 1) if he notifies the SP before the time of the meeting (the sooner the better) then he has done his part in acting in good faith and consideration.

Well put, if I enquire about a service does not mean it's a guaranteed booking, if I book then something comes up or I change my mind I'll always let the WG know straight away again no guarantee only an opportunity lost. There's still plenty of hours in the day for a wg to guarantee a booking. If I am the only opportunity of the day because the WG has a dusty phone and I cancel it's not my problem that's just the way business works.

There's been many times in the past where I have travelled to the other side's of London and far reaches only for the WG to hit me with radio silence, double booking etc...which has left me out of pocket with travelling costs which I don't get reimbursed on not to mention all the lost time. Some times I don't have a plan B/C because either I'm there to see that WG for a very specific reason or my plan B is on the other side of the city.

[Circusboy]

Thanks for the interesting dialogue.

Points taken in that I should report no shows, and I will in future report these equally to shows.

And to reiterate I didn’t call all sp time wasters; but I was pointing out that sp arent the only ones who experience the detrimental effects of time wasters. To illustrate this my failed dungeon appointment meant that I was £200 out of pocket for dungeon hire, plus 1 day lost work (I’m self employed), fuel to and from the dungeon. Yes I still had my punting £ in my pocket. I always find plan b and c are never quite the same, and on this occasion I couldn’t even get plan z was suitable or available. Basically the most expensive posh wank ever. Yes I started the day and played with myself!

Anyhow, I posted this as I had been stood up on Sunday night with the promise of Monday morning, which I could just about make. Anyway, Monday morning came and I was all prepared when I got the text saying it was off. Anyway to the SP defence she texted me this morning with an apology which I take as a massive plus. Next time I have the opportunity I will be seeing the sp in question. The SP in this occasion is BabyKatie swindon.

[IndigoRocks]

There is no money lost only opportunity.  She hasn't earned that money by taking a booking, she hasn't delivered any service.
There are no signed contracts on incontravertible terms.  All arrangements are subject to availability, honesty of offer and change of circumstance on either party's behalf.
You'll be arguing that walking into a shop commits a browser to making a purchase next.  Shoppers can pick things up then change their mind without prejudice up to the moment of purchase provided they have not deliberately damaged or (part) consumed the product prematurely.
Where's the compensation if she's shit at delivering her service, why should her earnings be considered assured when nothing about her offering is guaranteed?

Why does a punter cancel or no show?
1)  He's an a-hole timewaster with no intent to go in the first place.
2)  He's nervous and easily dissuaded by his own internal dialog
3)  He's put off by something the SP does or doesn't do to instill confidence in the booking.
4)  Something comes up to prevent him turning up
5)  The SP proves to be not as expected or promised wrt looks, age, attitude, nationality, ethnicity, etc.  Timely posting of reviews with current details about an SP can prevent ill-founded interest and booking or hasty cancellation. 

In all but 1) if he notifies the SP before the time of the meeting (the sooner the better) then he has done his part in acting in good faith and consideration.

It depends on how you look at it. Of course - yes, it’s the opportunity to earn that’s been lost.

Equally, short notice cancellations and no shows can be hard to back fill. When you’ve turned away genuine clients that would have turned up and paid, for ones that can’t even be bothered telling you they aren’t coming it’s frustrating.

We lost four and a half hours on no shows a week ago at one place I work. At the same I’d been responding to regulars saying I was fully booked.

I know you don’t see that as me loosing money, and I understand your logic. But … to me it is a financial loss.

[contentguy]

Sorry, Dave but unless I'm misreading it, he hasn't stipulated that. All he has said is that time-wasting goes both ways. He hasn't said that all escorts are time wasters. So let's not generalise here.

Did you miss the first line of the OP's post.

Just a general moan about girls who put “no time wasters” on their profiles.

[daviemac]

Sorry, Dave but unless I'm misreading it, he hasn't stipulated that. All he has said is that time-wasting goes both ways. He hasn't said that all escorts are time wasters. So let's not generalise here.

You are very much misreading it, as are most of the posters on this thread.

If you read his post again you will see he is moaning about SPs who stipulate 'no time wasters' on their profile but then go on to ghost HIM, he even says he hasn't posted any reviews of the ones who have wasted his time.

Just a general moan about girls who put “no time wasters” on their profiles.

I’ve never given a review on here for my no shows. I don’t know why I just didn’t feel it was appropriate. I still hope to see the lady in question from today, but should I really be so nice to them about it?

So my point stands, it is unfair to label all escorts who have 'no time wasters' on their profiles as time wasters themselves without the evidence to back it up.

[Rochelle]

You are very much misreading it, as are most of the posters on this thread.

If you read his post again you will see he is moaning about SPs who stipulate 'no time wasters' on their profile but then go on to ghost HIM, he even says he hasn't posted any reviews of the ones who have wasted his time.So my point stands, it is unfair to label all escorts who have 'no time wasters' on their profiles as time wasters themselves without the evidence to back it up.

If you read his post again, at no point did he label all escorts who have 'no time wasters' on their profiles as time wasters themselves.

[daviemac]

If you read his post again, at no point did he label all escorts who have 'no time wasters' on their profiles as time wasters themselves.

I have read his post and it begins with -

Just a general moan about girls who put “no time wasters” on their profiles.

He then goes on to say -

However, it should’ve noted that time wasters goes both ways and recently I’ve made arrangements and then only to be told later that they “feel unwell” or ‘can we do another date’. I even had it once where I booked a dungeon and they didn’t show up. Not only is this annoying it is costly too.

Here he is implying all the escorts who have ghosted him have had "no timewasters" on their profile. However the most important part of his post is this. -

I’ve never given a review on here for my no shows.

The whole point of this site is to help fellow members make informed decisions about who to spend large amounts of cash on and most would agree that the negative reviews are the most important.

The OP of this has started a thread moaning about him being ghosted but by not posting reviews is quite happy for others to suffer the same fate, not quite in keeping with the site ethos is it?

So you can defend him all you like but he is totally out of order and I will post whatever is necessary to get him to explain himself even if it is a slight exaggeration.

[Hobbit]

If you read his post again, at no point did he label all escorts who have 'no time wasters' on their profiles as time wasters themselves.

I have to agree with you and I made the same point earlier but I was shot down like a flamingo flying across Alaska. So I just gave up, simply because I like flamingos.

I can see what Dave is saying but at no point did the OP state that all escorts are time wasters. His title may come across in a way to think that but he clearly hasn't said that. If this went to trial, the judge would terminate the case within 5 minutes as it is all based on speculation.

[daviemac]

I have to agree with you and I made the same point earlier but I was shot down like a flamingo flying across Alaska. So I just gave up, simply because I like flamingos.

I can see what Dave is saying but at no point did the OP state that all escorts are time wasters. His title may come across in a way to think that but he clearly hasn't said that. If this went to trial, the judge would terminate the case within 5 minutes as it is all based on speculation.

My comment has provoked responses from several people, except the one person it was intended to get a response from, the OP.

To put it in simpler terms.

OP
Why did you choose not to post reviews of the escorts who cancelled your bookings, this is information that is more than useful to other members.

Why are you happy to let other punters have their bookings cancelled so they waste their time as you did.   

[Stevelondon]

My comment has provoked responses from several people, except the one person it was intended to get a response from, the OP.

To put it in simpler terms.

OP
Why did you choose not to post reviews of the escorts who cancelled your bookings, this is information that is more than useful to other members.

Why are you happy to let other punters have their bookings cancelled so they waste their time as you did.   

This is of far more importance than wether or not the opening post would stand up in court or not 

By the way Davie. Your using the word Implied’ far too much 

[Doc Holliday]

This is of far more importance than whether or not the opening post would stand up in court or not 

It is and to be fair the OP Circusboy did subsequently name the SP recently involved which led to his post. I suspect this may have got overlooked with everyone wading in with their two penneth?

[Atrueyorkie]

Time wasters on Both sides should be flagged up immediately to build an idea or not if it’s a consistent theme or not they have.

We all know genuine reasons to cancel a visit and it could unintentionally come across as bad on your part. So when a fact file you could say has been built up through reviews then people can see the pattern.

OP really does need to answer why he doesn’t review the time wasters/no shows as that’s the whole ethos of this site. Review all meetings to help other punters make informed decisions

[Doc Holliday]

OP really does need to answer why he doesn’t review the time wasters/no shows as that’s the whole ethos of this site. Review all meetings to help other punters make informed decisions

As per my last post he has answered this 

[daviemac]

It is and to be fair the OP Circusboy did subsequently name the SP recently involved which led to his post. I suspect this may have got overlooked with everyone wading in with their two penneth?

I didn't overlook it Doc, nor did I overlook the fact the escort concerned only has 1 positive review on here when in fact she should have one positive for a successful meeting and one negative for ghosting a punter. If punters know she has ghosted before they can make a more informed decision about taking a chance on booking her.

Had he posted a negative review for BabyKatie everyone would have been thanking him, plus he could have moaned about those with 'no timewasters' on their profiles at the same time and all this would have been avoided.

[Moby Dick]

I imagine SPs are also referring to timewasting activities other than cancellations or no shows, eg Texts/messages/phone calls asking details or just wanting to “chat” with no intention of booking.

[Doc Holliday]

I didn't overlook it Doc

 

I did and from recent posts I thought others may have also? I only spotted his reply when I reread the thread.