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In today's Times online there is a typical clickbait item : External Link/Members Only

Predictably it has provoked a torrent of outrage but in fact it is the Student's Union offering helpful advice to students contemplating trying their hand at escorting.

Offline datwabbit

Thanks for this.

I'm local so more than happy to offer advice too.

In reality, you'll see Durham students on Seeking not aw.

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Offline Vice Admiral

The Times report includes this: "The Department for Education said students in hardship should be helped by their university, which should make 'all efforts' to prevent them from becoming involved in the adult sex industry."

Blimey! 

I wonder how many Durham University students are at this very moment hurrying round to the university's Student Support and Wellbeing Directorate saying, "I haven't got two pennies to rub together. I see no alternative but to become a hooker. Any chance of a hardship grant to keep me on the straight and narrow?"

Offline nwluvit

If it had been the Sun reporting headline might have been

"Get titty from Posh totty"

Offline LLPunting

If it had been the Sun reporting headline might have been

"Get titty from Posh totty"

"Fuck a fresher week has been extended indefinitely and opened up to all cummers... for a fee."

"Student bodies for sale amongst the reaming spires"

"Magda cum louder"

"2:1 is now a service not an achievement"

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Offline LLPunting

What have we started.

"3 years of hardcore study results in happy ending for these female STEM students"

"More males not finishing HE due to lack of funds"

"More women graduates than ever are not entering the profession they studied for"

Offline sparkus

If only Anthg was here.  :lol:

He'd initially be all over it then kick off about them all being over-educated and too woke for him.

Offline nwluvit

This year's graduates seem to prefer FUCK to FCUK

Offline dubhcarr

Memories of Alizee OP one of Durhams finest certainly educated me.   :hi:

Online WASA38

I liked this comment from one (female) Times forum member:

'Durham was always a knocking shop even when I was there. The door tended to open widest if you had been a a top private school though 😤'

Offline nodrah

I liked this comment from one (female) Times forum member:

'Durham was always a knocking shop even when I was there. The door tended to open widest if you had been a a top private school though 😤'

  ... perhaps she meant legs and not door ...

Offline Taggart

I am wondering if there’s any truth at all in this story, given the almost nonexistent choice of girls under 24 in County Durham on AW.

Click bait?

Offline HailWood

Memories of Alizee OP one of England’s finest certainly educated me.   :hi:
Corrected for you.  :hi:



Offline daviemac

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Corrected for you.  :hi:
She was French mate, worked and studied in Durham.

Offline sparkus

I am wondering if there’s any truth at all in this story, given the almost nonexistent choice of girls under 24 in County Durham on AW.

Click bait?

You're assuming all WGs are available by just AW.

Offline Straightsix

I've been fucking brummie students for decades. Why is Durham so behind?
Banned reason: Warned before but doesn’t seem to learn
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Offline HailWood

She was French mate, worked and studied in Durham.
Did I say she was English. I said she was England’s best. Bisous! ;)

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Did I say she was English. I said she was England’s best. Bisous! ;)
She toured Glasgow (Scotland) and Cardiff (Wales) as well, she didn't just work in England.   :hi:

Offline HailWood

She toured Glasgow (Scotland) and Cardiff (Wales) as well, she didn't just work in England.   :hi:
I can see that I’m going to have to be more thorough in my generalisations in future and channel my inner lawyer.  :P

Offline Vice Admiral

The usually reliable Libby Purves weighs in to this debate in today’s Times.

Unsurprisingly she doesn’t approve of students selling sex.  Not many people do.

However there are two assertions she makes which are unsupported by evidence – and which I find dubious.

The first is this:  “Yet research across the world makes it clear that selling sex is not only an immediate risk but reduces the safety of all women. Men who buy it, whether online or physically, are significantly more likely than other men to rape or commit other violence against women.”

Does research make this clear?  How reliable is this research?  Who was surveyed?  Is it, for example, the result of interviewing convicted rapists about their other sex habits?  If so, hardly a representative sample of purchasers of sex.

Common sense (yes, I know!) would suggest that – while buying “online sex” might, I suppose, just possibly cause men to be more likely to make sexual attacks on women (as a result of frustration at not having any “real-world” sex) – buying sex “physically” surely provides an outlet that should diminish a potential rapist's desires? 

Libby Purves’s second dubious assertion is this, with which she ends her article:  “And to think that in 1869, those pioneers naively believed university education would help prevent women having to sell sexual services to more powerful men.”

The pioneers in question are those who facilitated university education for women.  1869 was exactly half-way through the reign of Queen Victoria.  I hardly think that the “pioneers” in question saw themselves as being in the business of providing a university education for girls of the underclass who would otherwise have become prostitutes.


Offline tynetunnel

On a simple and basic level men need sex. Surely those that go to the bother and expense of paying for it could be less likely to be rapists or sex offenders? I’ve never felt the urge to rape anyone, the idea is abhorrent. The Times is making the kind of generalisations I’d expect to see in The Sun

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Memories of Alizee OP one of Durhams finest certainly educated me.   :hi:

“Mange Tout”

Fond memories of a face full of fabulous French Flaps. 👅

Online Steely Dan

Men who buy it, whether online or physically, are significantly more likely than other men to rape or commit other violence against women.”
Probably a made up fact, that has be re-quoted so many times it seems real.

But anyway correlation does not mean causation.  So ... this means nothing.  Many bastards have sex with escorts.  And so do I.  But that does not make me a bastard.  And the escort having sex with a man does not mean she caused it either.

For all we know if there were not as many escorts, thing might be worse.  Impossible to know.  But this so called fact does not move the argument either way.

Offline Vice Admiral

This story still rumbles on in the media, with predictable expressions of dismay and / or outrage.

Fair enough.

But a point I have nowhere seen made is this.

A lot of students use drugs.  A student who's a daily user of weed can easily get through £450 worth a month.  A student who likes to do a fair bit of cocaine on a Friday and a Saturday night would be looking at a similar level of expenditure.

Student loans and jobs in McDonald's don't fund those kinds of lifestyle choices.  My guess is that a significant proportion of the students who do sex work are supporting a drug habit.

Offline stampjones

On a simple and basic level men need sex. Surely those that go to the bother and expense of paying for it could be less likely to be rapists or sex offenders? I’ve never felt the urge to rape anyone, the idea is abhorrent. The Times is making the kind of generalisations I’d expect to see in The Sun
Exactly. Its just the usual conflation of correlation with causation. Even if it was true that most rapists have paid for sex it says nothing about whether paying for sex makes you a rapist or if banning paid sex would make even the slightest difference to the rape statistics.

Online Henry767

Syllogism of the day:
1. All men are rapists
2. Most rapists have paid for sex
3. Therefore, paying for sex is likely to make a man a rapist
QED.