What's with this 'I refuse to see anyone with zero AdultWork feeback' business

[NIK]

What's with this increasing obsession with prossies about not seeing anyone without any AWank feedback? 
I have had over 500 punts and do not have a single lword of AW feedback to my name. Indeed I have probably only booked a handful of punts through bloody AW.
And even if I was prepared to play their bloody silly game (which I am not) how can somebody get fb in the first place if so many won't see anyone without it? 

Maybe I could make it up, as so many prossies and pimps do?   

[Just Some Bloke]

I think it's an attempt to filter out timewasters. If a punter has several feedback from reliable escorts there's a good chance that he does actually follow through on his bookings.

For instance, a girl I've seen a couple of times and was booking again for this week was complaining about one day this week when she got 2 half hour bookings and 7 no-shows. It's a big problem for some of them so I can understand why they do it even though it's not very punter friendly.

[smiths]

What's with this increasing obsession with prossies about not seeing anyone without any AWank feedback? 
I have had over 500 punts and do not have a single lword of AW feedback to my name. Indeed I have probably only booked a handful of punts through bloody AW.
And even if I was prepared to play their bloody silly game (which I am not) how can somebody get fb in the first place if so many won't see anyone without it? 

Maybe I could make it up, as so many prossies and pimps do?   

I am in the same boat as you and not got any A/W feedback and wont be getting any, all very simple for me NIK I punt to suit me not WGs so those that insist on me needing A/W can go fuck themselves.

What makes me chuckle is a number of forum darlings of UKP that punters have given good reviews to are some of those that now demand punters need feedback, they started off without that requirement, punters on here helped them become busier and they then bring these demands in. It will be photo ID, police checks and electoral roll checks next. Thing is some punters are VERY proud of having A/W feedback as though its some kind of achievement, all very sad in my view, and some will play the WGs game letting them dictate to them, not much can be done about that.

[Brazilian Martian]

I am in the same boat as you and not got any A/W feedback and wont be getting any, all very simple for me NIK I punt to suit me not WGs so those that insist on me needing A/W can go fuck themselves.

What makes me chuckle is a number of forum darlings of UKP that punters have given good reviews to are some of those that now demand punters need feedback, they started off without that requirement, punters on here helped them become busier and they then bring these demands in. It will be photo ID, police checks and electoral roll checks next. Thing is some punters are VERY proud of having A/W feedback as though its some kind of achievement, all very sad in my view, and some will play the WGs game letting them dictate to them, not much can be done about that.

Well said 

[NIK]

I think it's an attempt to filter out timewasters. If a punter has several feedback from reliable escorts there's a good chance that he does actually follow through on his bookings.

For instance, a girl I've seen a couple of times and was booking again for this week was complaining about one day this week when she got 2 half hour bookings and 7 no-shows. It's a big problem for some of them so I can understand why they do it even though it's not very punter friendly.

Yes I appreciate that, but I am afraid it goes with the unreliable nature of the territory on both sides.
I have never done a no show. Have cancelled but have always let them know. However I have suffered four or five no shows myself over the years without so much as a bye your leave. Remember  the first time it happened to me I was surprised as I'd been punting a few years, but early days was mainly parlours. As it has happened on a few subsequent occasions I am no longer surprised.

Best was an AW girl on Staffordshire, which would have been an 80/90 mile round trip for me. I'd spoken to her on Thursday for a Sat appt. Called her again at 1 to confirm the 5 o clock appt. All seemed well apart from I hadn't got the address. Was going to set off about 3.30 when she still hadn't confirmed. Come 4 after text and phone call (no answer) I thought fuck it.
It transpired she hadn't expired in those couple of hours since I had spoken to her as the following Friday the silly cow sent a text saying she was available. Whether it was just to me or a generic text I know not. 
Had a similar experience in London. Only this time after making the appointment I'd trekked from Lancaster Gate to Limehouse only for her not to answer.   
Women are strange and prossies the strangest of all. 

[cockneybstrd]

Couldn't you just send them a link to your book Nik?.

It seems to have been going on for few years now this feedback thing. It seems to mainly come from prossies that want you to jump through hoops to meet them.

Its not for me but it's important for others. As has been seen by posters going on about their standing in the 'punting community'

[smiths]

And another point about A/W feedback is as some punters have posted on here over the years they wouldn't give a bad WG bad FB in case she did the same back in revenge thus potentially putting a future WG off them. So to me it works against the interests of punters and one things for sure, bad WGs and pimps are laughing their heads off that this is the case.

For me A/W FB is totally worthless unless I know, trust and/or respect the punter who has left it. Far far better to leave honest true FB and reviews on here in my opinion and fuck A/W.

[mh]

What's with this increasing obsession with prossies about not seeing anyone without any AWank feedback? 

I've seen plenty of profiles with that, then they ignore AW emails yet if you phone them they take a booking and give you the address. If they don't then move on...

[raylondoner]

and the joke is that many don't leave feedback themselves, even if you do! 

[RedKettle]

Not really an issue if you punt in London as there is so much choice, however can be more frustrating up here if it is one of the few gems that has that requirement.

I used to have the same attitude as Smiths, but I must admit I gave in a while ago and started gathering a few feedbacks just to help with the odd booking and also to improve chances on a RB.

Whilst it is quite right for us to say that fuck it, it is our money and we will just take our custom elsewhere it is also reasonable for a woman offering services to decide upon what terms she offers them.  We make that choice knowing it might mean we miss out on a good one and they make that choice knowing (if they have any sense) that it will have an impact on their income.

[Deepstroker]

Who cares? Its their loss,,they must think they are so special or something ..hahahaaaaaaa

[E.L. Wisty]

What's with this increasing obsession with prossies about not seeing anyone without any AWank feedback? 
I have had over 500 punts and do not have a single lword of AW feedback to my name. Indeed I have probably only booked a handful of punts through bloody AW.
And even if I was prepared to play their bloody silly game (which I am not) how can somebody get fb in the first place if so many won't see anyone without it? 

Maybe I could make it up, as so many prossies and pimps do?   

They just creates too many unnecessary roadblocks and makes things complicated for the punter. For other services (outside of punting), you wouldn't get them selling services only to customers who have feedback.

[ayreon010]

I really can understand why some would want to do this.
Although a fair few who do incalls just demand you call or text and will not reply to any messages. They just want to cut out AW so you never get feedback that way.

[ickydicky]

i had a hoor in scotland who has a sign on here and who i exchanged posts with and then pmd her and discussed what i fancied. all okay she says. but she then refused to give me her number or fix a booking unless i did it thru aw. i refused, explaining why. but she stuck to her guns. stupid hoor.

[E.L. Wisty]

The worst thing is that there are WG that insist on punter feedback, and yet they themselves hide it.

[ickydicky]

hoors are all liars. hoors are all devious.

[Stiltskin]

It works both ways, I'd never see a girl with zero feedback. I'm just glad some blokes are willing to TOFTT as without them I wouldn't be punting at all

[webpunter]

Its a double edged sword for the AW burd.  It doesn't put me off.  Probably plays slightly into her favour.  Generally the burds who insist on this are more established / have better FB.  Some sensibly keep the door ajar mentioning about punters introducing themselves by AW mail & then a convo.  The burds have made a business decision as to how they operate.  IMO its up to them.  They'll miss out on some punters, but should have less cancellations / punters who they don't want to see anyay.  Most businesses using screening processes so makes sense that hoors do too.  People who complain about this / that or the other generally feel excluded & they don't like it.  It ain't that hard to get some FB.  Just go for a new[ish] burd on AW - or perhaps not quite such a stunner [say for 30 mins so less of an investment].  Do an online booking & hey presto.  You've joined the club.  You can put it on your CV 

[webpunter]

It works both ways, I'd never see a girl with zero feedback. I'm just glad some blokes are willing to TOFTT as without them I wouldn't be punting at all

There comes a certain thrill with TOFTT now & again.  That added bit of excitement / gets the adrenalin pumping.  Its all about working out whats what.  So if a skanky romanian in some shit hole location then one to pass on.  But if a better location & what looks to be an OK profile then worth a shot.  I just set myself up to be prepared to walk.  Easier for example if on business somewhere & all the important shit gets left in the hotel.  I venture out with punting mobile & cash.  Whats to go wrong - i'm quite good at scrapping & even better at running fast ! 
Not forgetting checking on here 1st !  Plus worth doing searches on the mobile number - this can throw up stuff

[Type_O_Negative]

I don't have AW profile and i'm not going to have. Here in London choice is huge. WGs who see punters with FB only need to understand it works both ways - it puts punters off so WGs lose potential clients.

What annoys me even more is the fact some WGs don't show phone number. Oh well i will take my money elsewhere 

[Dani]

I find it a bit silly but then I advertise I see new guys to AW.  I started with no feedback and if clients had not taken the risk with me I would have got nowhere. I think a lot of girls firget they too started without feedback
Having feedback does not stop someone wasting your time nor does it guarantee they are good clients.  It just means that on those occasions they were OK. It doesn't mean they will be ok for every booking

I prefer to go on how that client interacts with me on the phone call rather than relying on a one line report from some girl I don't know. 

[NIK]

Sometimes there are advantages of using agencies. Okay they are expensive (then so are some indies) and it could be argued pimps (which is what agencies really are) are unnecessary, but there's often less farting around than there is with indies. Looking back I can now see why I've probably seen more agency girls than indies.

[Silver Birch]

It's a load of bollocks. I have received replies to texts from wgs who "don't reply to texts". I have booked wgs on the phone who "don't see anyone without AW feedback", and no mention of AW. I think it just depends how dusty their phone is.

[OakTree]

Sometimes there are advantages of using agencies. Okay they are expensive (then so are some indies) and it could be argued pimps (which is what agencies really are) are unnecessary, but there's often less farting around than there is with indies. Looking back I can now see why I've probably seen more agency girls than indies.

I predominantly use agencies and it's mainly for the ease and convenience. There's some very good ones in Manchester. I ring up and two hours later I can be balls deep. If a girl bails out, another one is provided.

AW is just a minefield of being let down, being misled and generally fucked around. Yesterday I was booked in with one, got an email in the morning cancelling. Found another who immediately text back to apologise she'd double booked, ( least she was honest) Then a third who said you'll have to ring back in forty five minutes, I'm in the gym. Rang her when she said and was told I'm not working today.

I gave up then.

[Nagilum]

Some of the more popular girls require it.  I remember in the beginning I thought I would treat it like eBay and get my feedback score up to see a girl I liked the look of.  However, I don't bother with booking though Adultwork anymore.

[AnthG]

I seen posts from a girl recently who had come back to this after taking a few months off, and thus had zero feedback on her new just setup an AW profile. But on this she was saying she refuses to see anyone without feedback. And a punter messaged her saying "how come when you don't have any either".

I found this quite amusing in a "he is right" type double standards from girls and punters.

But in the north-east it seems to be happening a lot now due to all of the scares over dodgy punters going about.

As mentioned the problem with it is. Girls rarely give feedback when you see them. I have seen numerous girls over the years where on AW I have given them feedback, and they have not returned this gesture. And thus it means she gets the benefit of it but I don't.

[E.L. Wisty]

I seen posts from a girl recently who had come back to this after taking a few months off, and thus had zero feedback on her new just setup an AW profile. But on this she was saying she refuses to see anyone without feedback. And a punter messaged her saying "how come when you don't have any either".

I found this quite amusing in a "he is right" type double standards from girls and punters.

But in the north-east it seems to be happening a lot now due to all of the scares over dodgy punters going about.

As mentioned the problem with it is. Girls rarely give feedback when you see them. I have seen numerous girls over the years where on AW I have given them feedback, and they have not returned this gesture. And thus it means she gets the benefit of it but I don't.

I have had that problem in the past. That just makes the whole thing even more galling.

[foxinthebox9]

Hate jumping through hoops just to meet a girl. Its a pain in the arse when you first start out and you have no feedback. I used to use a lot of agencys but gor fed up of them. Must of emailed 20 girls on AW at first who all said no until one didn't even ask about the no feedback and met me. Once I had 1 there was no issue. The 3 feedback or 5 is bollex I found. Once I had 1 feedback from a known girl any girl I contacted said yes. I didn't have over 3 until about 15 punts in cus so many didn't leave any feedback for me and I couldn't be bothered sending reminders. Get why so many can't stand using AW and just call, but I don't have time to ring and ring and hope to get an answer so always fire off emails or texts.

[SUMO61]

I think it's about security. They probably want some assurance they are not opening the door to some total axe- wielding lunatic..

If you think about the risks, you'd probably want some feedback too, if you were them..

We all want to read reviews too, don't we?  Not sure what the difference is?

[Happylad]

A w.g. whom I saw several times, and who had such a statement on her Profile, explained to me that as far as she was concerned, by restricting her clientele to punters who had seen, and received good feedback from, several  other girls she ran a much less risk of being robbed or beaten up (or worse) than she would by simply accepting every punter who tried to book her.

I must confess that although the system could obviously not be completely foolproof I thought it was a perfectly reasonable attitude for her to take.

[NIK]

A w.g. whom I saw several times, and who had such a statement on her Profile, explained to me that as far as she was concerned, by restricting her clientele to punters who had seen, and received good feedback from, several  other girls she ran a much less risk of being robbed or beaten up (or worse) than she would by simply accepting every punter who tried to book her.

I must confess that although the system could obviously not be completely foolproof I thought it was a perfectly reasonable attitude for her to take.

It's a good job for her that other prossies must have at some point allowed those with no fb otherwise no one would ever build it up. 

[myothernameis]

2009 I had a aw profile, which I didn't access for 3 years, because of ill health, and forgot what my password was, so made a new aw profile

Some escorts refused to see me because I had 00 feedback, but I made a valid point to them.  Look at sometime when you created your aw profile, you your self, didn't have any feedback, and some of us guys act the same way, we don't know if you provide a reliable service

I explained why I have a new aw feedback, and told her you have to start somewhere, as all the guys out there will start with 0 feedback, and how lucky I was as an escort replied she would see me, and take the chance, but made it clear, if I fail to turn up, she would make this known in my feedback

The booking went ahead, and I got my self 1 feedback, plus she would help me if I was booking another escort. she would confirm I was a ok guy

[Steve2]

I am in the same boat as you and not got any A/W feedback and wont be getting any, all very simple for me NIK I punt to suit me not WGs so those that insist on me needing A/W can go fuck themselves.

What makes me chuckle is a number of forum darlings of UKP that punters have given good reviews to are some of those that now demand punters need feedback, they started off without that requirement, punters on here helped them become busier and they then bring these demands in. It will be photo ID, police checks and electoral roll checks next. Thing is some punters are VERY proud of having A/W feedback as though its some kind of achievement, all very sad in my view, and some will play the WGs game letting them dictate to them, not much can be done about that.

Spot on mate.

[Rockhead]

One well known girl in the East Midlands is now refusing to see anyone with zero AW feedback after she was assaulted and robbed by an imposter. An understandable decision in her case. I agree it can be frustrating for the vast majority of zero-feedbackers who are, presumably, completely genuine.
I started off with zero (obviously) and just persevered by being very polite, to the point and reliable.

[Nagilum]

It's a good job for her that other prossies must have at some point allowed those with no fb otherwise no one would ever build it up. 

Agreed. It's like cannon fodder.

[blue]

If anything, it's the service provider who should have the feedback not the person who's paying! 

[E.L. Wisty]

If anything, it's the service provider who should have the feedback not the person who's paying! 

+1

[hendrix]

Bound to be different reasons for different prossies, but most will likely be because of the amount of fucking nutters and phone wankers out there.