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Author Topic: Can’t make heads or tails of this “Escort Recruitment” site I came across...  (Read 2309 times)

PervertedPakistani

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My first post here will be a little unusual as its kinda outta the blue but please don’t get the wrong idea.  I’m neither here to advertise, nor to pimp or publicize the site I’m about to talk about. I’m not linked to the site in any way, and I’ll explain later how I chanced upon it. I’m just genuinely curious about what the hell you guys make of it – maybe you’ll spot things that I haven’t – and better help us to figure out whether its legit, misguided, or just a plain and well thought-out scam?!

First things first, this is the site here:

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Having revisited the site, my second impressions are that it looks extremely professional and slick. For sure, too slick for the likes of Sergei, and whoever created it clearly spent some time and money on getting it right: a registered company address, a contact telephone number, tailor-made YouTube videos, a dedicated Twitter and Pinterest page. Although, curiously, the latter is empty and the former two fall silent around April 2017.

That’s about the same time when I got a ‘reply’ this agency.  I had created a Gumtree ad offering a flat I had empty to a high-class escort. My ad was of course half-hearted and placed in lust after watching porn rather than any serious thought. I got a few replies, mostly unspectacular  and nowhere near the ‘quality’ I was expecting, until one day these guys showed up in my inbox and Dave from the ‘Escort Recruitment Agency,’ replied. He/They promised a constant stream of hot chicks using the flat, even went as far as asking for my pornstar preferences so they’d attempt to touch base with any pornstar of my choosing if she was on a UK tour.

 :dance: :dance:

Although Dave gave me all the expected spiel about ‘Escort Recruitment Agency’ being a ‘young’ and ‘expanding’ company going to ‘exciting places,’  it seemed like a half-baked fantasy in all honesty. Here was a company I didn’t know anything about with a website that had just been created a few months ago, asking if I wanted to ‘join’ them on an amazing journey!? At the time I got the impression that it was one guy behind it all, maybe just doing it as a hobby and seeing where it all leads  (a bit like my Gumtree ad I suppose). But seeing the site again and checking out the Youtube videos, its a little clearer that its probably more than one guy, maybe a small group of people that invested in this idea that never really got off the ground.

What is found curious though is why a ‘recruitment agency’ would be looking for receptionists, drivers, escorts of their own? Surely their role would be to act as middle-men, providing a directory of escort industry labour, not to ‘pimp out’ their own staff to punters?! In that sense ERA seemed like a mish-mash of two things – an escort agency and a recruitment agency - so I didn't really take it seriously. 8 months later it  looks like they’ve found success with neither?!

None of it really added up for me and of course nothing came of the offer in the end to rent out the place to them. Knowing that you guys must have come across many different types of escorting and adult websites, I wonder what you make of it all. Do you reckon it was an innocent but misguided attempt at filling a gap in the market or does it just look outright scammy and a cover for something else?

Would love to hear your thoughts!

:hi:

vw

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you are well dodgy, are you promoting this outfit, hence you want to to be able to use VPN.

Online scutty brown

registration details of website
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Registrant Name: Daniel Cox
Registrant Organization: PAVONIAN LTD
Registrant Street: 145-157 St. John Street
Registrant City: London
Registrant State/Province: LND
Registrant Postal Code: EC1V 4PY
Registrant Country: GB
Registrant Phone: +44.7460720737
Registrant Phone Ext:
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Details of Pavonian Ltd at Companies House
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Only officer is Daniel Cox
However the company was dissolved 29 August 2017
Company trading address was 145-157 St. John Street, London
However business registered address was Tempus Court Bellfield Road, Office 17, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, England, HP13 5HA
Suspect the business was actually based at High Wycombe, and the London address is a solicitor or accountant

Whatever, if your contact was in the last few weeks you were approached by someone from a dissolved company that should not have been trading

Or maybe there's a bigger story going on behind this?
« Last Edit: December 08, 2017, 07:51:38 pm by scutty brown »

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and here maybe the bigger story
that website gives an address of 20-22 Wenlock Road, London, N1 7GU

googling that leads to this news story
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" A network of phantom companies with reported combined assets of over £13 million have been ordered into liquidation by the High Court on grounds of public interest.
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The reported assets supposedly included over £1.6 million in cash, with the companies run solely as vehicles for fraud to obtain credit by filing false accounts and other false information.

The winding-up orders follow petitions presented by the Secretary of State for Business, Innovation & Skills, issued following confidential enquiries by Company Investigations, part of the Insolvency Service.

The Court heard that all bar one of the companies were incorporated by the same formation agent, a Jade Evans (who has not been located), and her company, ABN Company Formations Ltd (now dissolved). The Court also heard that over 50 other companies had been formed by Jade Evans and utilised as part of an extensive network of companies engaged in systematic fraud

The Court heard that all bar one of the companies were incorporated by the same formation agent, a Jade Evans (who has not been located), and her company, ABN Company Formations Ltd (now dissolved). The Court also heard that over 50 other companies had been formed by Jade Evans and utilised as part of an extensive network of companies engaged in systematic fraud.

The investigation showed how the six companies before the Court had common features such as inexplicable and dramatic increases in their share capital, the appointment of fictitious officers, identity theft, the filing of false accounts reporting significant assets and trading, providing one another with favourable trade references, ordering goods whatever the price quoted by the supplier, creating websites with content usually taken from other genuine sites, all to give the impression of a bona fide business. The companies nevertheless had no presence at their registered offices.

The companies targeted building trade suppliers, depriving them of more than £300,000 of goods comprising cable and other electrical goods, steel and reinforcing rods, ceramic tiles, paint, flooring, artificial grass and computer and office supplies.

The goods fraudulently obtained were delivered to common addresses, one in Milton Keynes and two in Essex."

Two of the companies were

Unique Wholesale Ltd
(company registration number 08378144) was incorporated on 28 January 2013. The registered office of the company is 145-157 St Johns Street, London, WC1V 4PW. The present sole recorded director is a Graham Flemming (described as a company director).
The company’s share capital on incorporation was £2. It was subsequently increased to £49,000 comprising 49,000 ordinary £1 shares all shown to be held by the person calling himself Mr Flemming.
The company’s filed accounts purport to show total assets as at 31 January 2014 of £1,459,136 (including cash of £279,123) and a reported turnover of £3,658,301 and profit of £745,832.
The company sought credit from suppliers and obtained goods of at least £40,562 for the supply of artificial grass and ceramic tiles

3D Media Ltd
(company registration number 08378872) was incorporated on 29 January 2013. The registered office of the company is 20-22 Wenlock Road, London, N1 7GU (changed on 28 October 2015 from Unit 21, Nobel Square, Burnt Mills, Basildon, Essex, SS13 1DY). The present sole recorded director is a Nigel Weekes (described as a company director).
The company’s share capital on incorporation was £1. It was subsequently increased to £10,000 comprising 10,000 ordinary shares of £1 each all shown to be held by a Hardev Singh Degan.
The company’s filed accounts purport to show total assets as at 30 June 2015 of £3,415,689 (including cash £360,100) and a reported turnover since incorporation of £8,492,978 with accumulated profits of £2,507,926.
The company operated a website: External Link/Members Only
The company sought credit from suppliers and obtained goods of at least £49,089 for the supply of cable and other electrical supplies.

"In ordering Battle Business Services Ltd, Hydro Serv Ltd, Winnington Marketing Ltd, Unique Wholesale Ltd, Zen IT Ltd and 3D Media Ltd into liquidation on grounds of public interest on 23 February 2016, Mr Registrar Briggs said:

    … all six companies before me are connected … all bar one of the companies were formed by a Jade Evans and her former company ABN Company Formations Ltd … the dealings by these companies are essentially a fraud on the public … a company was formed, soon after directors were appointed who could not be located, minimal share capital was shown to then increase substantially and accounts were filed showing substantial assets and a very healthy financial and credit worthy position … one of the companies, Battle Business Services, hasn’t filed accounts and its sole purpose was to provide references for the other companies that they were credit worthy … those suppliers who sought to trade with these companies were lulled into a falsehood that they would be paid in the normal course of trading with a credit worthy purchaser … the companies were not credit worthy because of the manipulation of the accounts presented … credit was falsely obtained and goods were supplied … once delivered they have not been recovered and no payment has been made … the investigation can only be described as thorough and has enabled me to conclude that unless action is taken there is a risk to the public from the activities of these companies … none of the companies appears today and the allegations against them are unopposed … the petition against one of the companies, Unique Wholesale, is supported by a creditor owed some £31,000 … Counsel for the supporting creditor has informed me that the goods supplied comprised artificial grass … I am satisfied that the companies demonstrate a complete lack of commercial probity and it is in the public interest for these companies to be wound up … it strikes me there is strong evidence of fraud … in my judgement it is just and equitable to wind up these companies and I do so order."





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« Last Edit: December 08, 2017, 08:12:19 pm by FCB »

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the Wenlock Rd address is actually an accommodation address for company setups

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I guess the parity of the addresses could just be coincidence, but if so then why is a dissolved business still trading?
Something stinks
« Last Edit: December 08, 2017, 08:14:29 pm by scutty brown »


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Google image search....
"Que es la psoriasis y cuales son sus causas" (Spanish for... What is psoriasis and what causes it).... hardly related to escorting me thinks.

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Hits on sites about rhinoplasty

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« Last Edit: December 08, 2017, 08:51:30 pm by FCB »

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Supposed to be a satisfied pimp or something?

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I don't speak Polish but I'm pretty sure that bloke ain't a pimp or anything...
Pic presumably stolen from here...

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« Last Edit: December 08, 2017, 09:22:20 pm by FCB »


Type_O_Negative

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don't leave us in suspense, who is he?

Well not pervertedpakistani for sure.

Offline FCB

don't leave us in suspense, who is he?

Sorry
My mobile phone has gone frozen twice while going through that escort recruitment site, had to take battery off and restart


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pl is a Polish website domain, so yes



Offline 381stBG

It’s all a load of fucking bollocks and the original poster can fuck right off. Don’t need this shit on here. Night night.

Big Guy

Offline Marmalade

They spammed Saafe in April. Saafe took the piss out of them.

Type_O_Negative

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:D :lol: :D

Please, Can you confirm is that is in Polish?

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Yes, it is in polish. It's an article about men who stay at homes and run them, look after their children, do shopping, housework, gardening and how much it would cost in theory. Some sort of social experiment
« Last Edit: December 08, 2017, 10:43:24 pm by Type_O_Negative »

Online scutty brown

They spammed Saafe in April. Saafe took the piss out of them.

I bet those girls had fun with that

Offline RadioKid

So Its some Polish bloke promoting an eastern European escort agency?


Offline FCB

So Its some Polish bloke promoting an eastern European escort agency?

Or Spanish/South American, bear in mind another of the pics led to a page in Spanish  talking about  psoriasis
« Last Edit: December 08, 2017, 11:02:43 pm by FCB »

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its a fake site populated with shit they've knicked from elsewhere

Offline FCB

Yes, it is in polish. It's an article about men who stay at homes and run them, look after their children, do shopping, housework, gardening and how much it would cost in theory. Some sort of social experiment

Thank for confirming  :thumbsup:
« Last Edit: December 09, 2017, 02:06:10 am by FCB »

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Don't know if it's been mentioned already...

But that "escorts agency" address

20-22 Wenlock Road N1 7GU,

Is home to the Made Simple Group Ltd

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They provide "online solutions to the start up and small businesses communities"
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It's services include the London Presence,  "Complete Virtual office" (£24.99 a month), etc....
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The answer phone calls for you, forward your mail, etc, etc

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« Last Edit: December 09, 2017, 02:13:42 am by FCB »


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Cheers for the link. That was amusing.

I wonder how long it will be before the OP is banned?

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As the girls at SAAFE discovered, this Daniel Cox is also sole director of 3D WORLD TV LTD
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strange looking site

Offline DrConners

Cheers for the link. That was amusing.

I wonder how long it will be before the OP is banned?

+1 OP has only managed to put a spotlight on him/it's-self highlighting IMO that him/her/it is dodgy as fuck! Intitally asking about VPN exclusion & now this load of bollocks ?  :unknown:

OP your posts clearly indicate you are not to be trusted & the worst type of troll - one with a susposedly clever agenda  :thumbsdown:



Offline FCB

As the girls at SAAFE discovered, this Daniel Cox is also sole director of 3D WORLD TV LTD
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strange looking site

List of ompanies directed by that Daniel Cox
3rd World TV and Pavonian Ltd (dissolved)

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The address given for Pavonian ltd is...

145-157, St John Street, London, England, EC1V 4PW

Google that address...

Turns out to be the old address of "Made Simple Group"  the company providing "Virtual Office" services for the "escort agency" discussed in this thread. (Check reply#24 in this thread)

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Quote from that link:

"According to the BBC, the address is in common use among fake companies operating "boiler room" fake share scams"


That old address is also mentioned here....

Internet fraud the British Connection.
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« Last Edit: December 09, 2017, 01:43:05 pm by FCB »


Offline FCB

So Its some Polish bloke promoting an eastern European escort agency?

Zimbabwean it seems.

Amy in Saafe linked this suspicious agency to two other companies and the director of them is a Zimbabwean national (check link in previous post)

Quote Amy in Saafe forum

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Having had a look, the domain is registered to the director of a dormant company called 'Pavonian Ltd', whose director also happens to be the director of one '3rdWorldTV', who also happen to share an (Islington) address with the quality providers of magical blossoming services as posted above, and as seen here:

3rdworldtv.com/contact


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« Last Edit: December 09, 2017, 02:33:38 pm by FCB »

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Another dissolved company that was directed by Daniel Simon Cox, same nationality and date of birth

Daniel Cox Enterprises Ltd

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Health and Fitness

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Online scutty brown

there are around 200 companies listed at that Wenlock Rd address. Its not possible to say they're all dodgy, but....
Besides that there are around 44,000 with creation registrations there

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PervertedPakistani

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First of all, just like to say I’d love to reply more frequently and extensively on here to each person individually, but given my current surfing habits that's unlikely to happen anytime soon.  Anyway, I'll try to reply as often as possible.

To ‘The Owl’ and ‘virtualwaster’ and ‘Dr Connors’ –

“OP has only managed to put a spotlight on him/it's-self highlighting IMO that him/her/it is dodgy as fuck!”

Errr…. I think this sentence answers your own question. If I was representing ERA in some way, why would I risk drawing attention to myself in such a negative light asking everybody to ‘investigate’ the‘agency’ or whatever it really is. Nah mate! People that wanna plug their services usually come on here with statements and posts like “I’ve made this new escort site, please guys take a look…” or “oh I found this escorting site, I think it could rival Adultwork…” and all sorts of bollocks like that !!!

 :dash: :dash:

On the contrary, all I’ve said is due to something I once posted on Gumtree I was contacted by this ‘agency’ and I’ve wondered about them ever since.  I can’t see why anyone would be ‘banned’  for bringing to the attention of  unwitting punters an escorting company that might try to defraud them or even worse, put them in harm’s way if they ever had the luck to cross paths?!

Seriously, you guys are not making a lot of sense!

To ‘Scutty Brown,’ and ‘FCB’ -

Thanks for taking the time to do some, well, actually... pretty extensive 'digging' into this ‘outfit.’ Good work!

There is something really strange about the whole thing, lots of different folks involved, lots of different addresses. Then again, if you peeled away the details of a regular escort agency, would you find something similar behind it? If that’s the case, then I suppose its not so dodgy after all ?!

There are a lot of scammers out there. Most of them we are a little familiar with already – the usual AW picture gallery scams or ‘click-and-baits,’ ‘deposits first’ blah blah blah. What struck me about this is how polished the whole thing seemed to be. From time to time I’ve revisited this site but on each occasion its just confused me even more -  what the purpose behind it was? What its objective was? The creators of ERA clearly have put a lot of effort into this idea they thought would become a success.

Of course we are assuming its all deception. Part of me still wonders if it was just a badly thought out idea that went tits up, ie of filling what they perceived was a gap in the escorting market, then deciding the best plan of action was to go to escort-related forums (such as SAAFE) to plug it, but it never got any interest?

If it is deception, then it must be something far murkier than your everyday Sergei-type escort-related scams. After all they even went to all that trouble of hiring paid actors to make customized YouTube videos! 

Thanks again for your detective work!

Online scutty brown

Sorry but you have this ass-about-face

The fact that I (and others) have found what we have shows that this setup is very amateurish. They've made no attempt to hide behind anonymous registrations or blind company registrations. And as others have shown, its easy to locate the origin of much of the stolen content.
Most escort websites are much harder to crack.

Whoever is behind this is either very naive in his attempts at scamming. Or he's a naive patsy.

I have a suspicion that you're being selective in the truth you are telling us

Online scutty brown

Another dissolved company that was directed by Daniel Simon Cox, same nationality and date of birth

Daniel Cox Enterprises Ltd

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FFS if you Google his correspondence address of 3 Wilce Avenue, Wellingborough, England, NN8 2QL
you get two hits:
External Link/Members Only         A medical imaging company, looks like a one-woman business: "Sidanisile Danielle NDLELA"
(she also has fingers in two other companies)
External Link/Members Only  "Balm of Gilead World Ministries"   a bunch of god bothering missionaries
the websites registration is hidden behind an anonymous proxy in Ontario, Canada
stinkier and stinkier
« Last Edit: December 09, 2017, 09:16:39 pm by scutty brown »

Offline FCB

, looks like a one-woman business: "Sidanisile Danielle NDLELA"


She's also Zimbabwean like Mr,Cox,
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« Last Edit: December 09, 2017, 09:22:07 pm by FCB »

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She's also Zimbabwean
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yeah, that link gives her other two companies as well

guess they're husband and wife.......I wonder if her christian charity knows about the escort business?
« Last Edit: December 09, 2017, 09:19:11 pm by scutty brown »

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guess they're husband and wife.......

Doubt it she's 18 years older than him, maybe mother or auntie, or maybe the building is just a cluster for Zimbabwean run small business

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External Link/Members Only  "Balm of Gilead World Ministries"   a bunch of god bothering missionaries
the websites registration is hidden behind an anonymous proxy in Ontario, Canada
stinkier and stinkier

Definitely related to Daniel Cox...

Reverend Merica Cox
BALM OF GILEAD WORLD MINISTRIES
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Merica Cox holds one company

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LOVELY ROSE CARE SERVICES LIMITED
3 Wilce Avenue, Wellingborough, Northampton, Northamptonshire, NN8 2QL
« Last Edit: December 09, 2017, 09:44:59 pm by FCB »

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Definitely related to Daniel Cox...

Reverend Merica Cox
BALM OF GILEAD WORLD MINISTRIES
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and she's "Senior Pastor"

Offline The Owl

you are well dodgy, are you promoting this outfit, hence you want to to be able to use VPN.

The OP cunt has finally got banned. That wasn't a surprise.

vt

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Sounds like a fucking bunch of amateur Zim scam artists with fingers in all sorts of dodgy pies, they need to fuck off back to Mugabe-land if that's the best they can do over here!!  :diablo:

I guess the scam is they will be trying to take advance deposits off escorts with fake promises of work. Not sure how he planned to scam punters, but the OP was clearly trying to promote it on here.  :thumbsdown:

Good riddance to that crock of shit!  :timeout: