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Offline iq129

I was always of the view that if I try to provide pleasure to an escort then that would turn her on, and would make for great two-way sex.

I was clearly delusional as the news article below suggests.

In fact, according what the sex workers interviewed said, it is better to lie like a dead body on the bed and let the escort do all the work. Why? Because they prefer it that way and that they are in it just for the money!

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« Last Edit: March 17, 2023, 07:57:12 pm by iq129 »

Offline KatieEdinburgh

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I do think whilst there may be some elements of truth in there, I wouldn’t fully trust an article in the Metro as representative of every sex worker everywhere. They only interviewed 7 SPs so it’s not a huge sample size to base that on. Some SPs do enjoy being given orgasms / RO while on the job too

I can agree that other factors are usually more important in being a “good client” such as turning up on time, clean, not being rude/not haggling, not getting EAS or intrusive questions, all the things they mentioned

Offline ruggedscot

Ok majority are... they are doing this for financial reasons... its why they are doing something that they probably dont care for much.

Men its a physical thing. visual and all that... Woman its more of a connection and of something more than physical. and making that connection with a punter is something that most just dont want. they want to keep you at arms length. no involvement. no connection.

they will lay there or have you lay there and do whats needed to make you cum.

You do get some that like it or get into it but thats few and far between. been doing this off an on for a while and had some success but nothing really to write home about. but I now just kick back and enjoy the ride so to speak.

Offline shant999

With respect to the SP.

I pay her to turn me on and if trying to make her cum gets me off then its tuff. She will have to pretend to enjoy and I have to pretend she is enjoying it.

That is what I like doing, she is not paying me for my time!!

Online willie loman

sex workers tend to give the answers that the interviewer is looking for, while the majority of sex workers want you out asap , etc, you will find those that are fun, if you work at it, its certainly true that haggling over money is a major turn off.

Offline Munter84

I can't speak for the rest of you buggers, but for me a big part of MY enjoyment is simulating the girlfriend experience. And again speaking personally, that means creating at least the window dressing and trappings of a mutually enjoyable sexual encounter, including stuff like mutual masturbation and RO. Don't get me wrong, this is ultimately for MY benefit! I don't expect the girl to start paying me for my "services"! I just don't find using a girl as a mere receptacle to be particularly sexy or exciting - and if the girl genuinely enjoys herself (and that's always the hope), so much the better.

At the same time I appreciate some WGs don't want to be roughly fingerbanged or receive their seventh crappy RO of the day if they're already sore down there, and I completely respect their decision if that's not for them. I hope they would signpost this preference in their profiles? Don't offer kissing, RO, GFE etc if it's not for you! That would be a lot more constructive than contributing snarky soundbites to a mildly punter-bashing Metro article.

The objections to punters haggling, overstepping boundaries, prying for personal details etc I completely agree with.

Offline JustaPunter

Facts and The Metro don’t tend to go hand in hand very often.

Offline MissWolf

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While I don't disagree with some of the article I also don't agree with some of it either.

My ideal client is easy on comms when booking, doesn't ask dozens of questions that can be answered by reading my profile, turns up on time, is clean, respectful and with the right money in his pocket.
In the booking itself ideally they are fun, like a little banter, lots of kissing and mutual pleasure and are not afraid to let me know what they like and what they want me to do, I will obviously be doing my upmost to give pleasure already.

Orgasms for me in a meet are not common but not rare either as I don't just do this for the money, I really enjoy a lot of the sex I have, if I didn't I wouldn't be doing this.

What I have learnt doing this is that looks are not a factor in pleasure for me I've been surprised more than a few times with my reactions to guys that society would class as unattractive and out of shape.

What a client doesn't need to do is leave a tip,  bring me a gift, try too hard or overstay

Personally I feel articles like this do very litte to positively impact the image of sex workers or punters in the eyes of the general public,  they feed into the stereotypical image of a lazy uninterested woman who dislikes men and is only interested in the money, I'm not saying some are not like this but 7 is not a representative sample from an industry that has thousands of workers.

Offline Blackpool Rock

Ok majority are... they are doing this for financial reasons... its why they are doing something that they probably dont care for much.

Men its a physical thing. visual and all that... Woman its more of a connection and of something more than physical. and making that connection with a punter is something that most just dont want. they want to keep you at arms length. no involvement. no connection.

they will lay there or have you lay there and do whats needed to make you cum.

You do get some that like it or get into it but thats few and far between. been doing this off an on for a while and had some success but nothing really to write home about. but I now just kick back and enjoy the ride so to speak.
I think this sums it up pretty well, perhaps 10%-20% of girls i've punted have left me with the feeling that they also got some enjoyment out of the sex, perhaps good acting but those are the few girls that I return to as it adds to the overall experience and makes it more than just pure sex.

I've had a few punts where i've given the girl oral then started moving up her body kissing her tummy as I move up only for her to put her hands on my head and push it back down for more oral with a comment like "Finish me off"
Perhaps it is acting as when I tell them I charge extra they tell me to FO  :D

Offline jimbobted

Well they sound like a bunch of miserable bitches, don't they!
I could imagine the subject of the review I put up today being of that ilk.

All of my most memorable punts and the only girls I've ever returned to have been those where it was about mutual pleasure and enjoyment, and the girl had as much fun as I did (or at least was good at acting it that I wasn't aware she was acting).

But, if they are servicing half a dozen guys a day I can see why they tire of it.

Offline Stevelondon

Read what MissWolf says…… don’t read the article.

Offline iq129

Read what MissWolf says…… don’t read the article.

Miss Wolf is a star! However, she may be an exception.

Judging by what those ladies interviewed by the Metro newspaper have said, providing reverse oral on them would be something that they dislike.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2023, 10:38:24 pm by iq129 »

Offline IndigoRocks

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Miss Wolf is a star! However, she may be an exception.

Judging by what those ladies interviewed by the Metro newspaper have said, providing reverse oral on them would be something that they dislike.

It’s the best part of a meet for me if I’m honest. I’d be really sad if I didn’t get RO any more. I definitely wouldn’t take this article as gospel.

Most SP’s I know do enjoy it too.. Perhaps they just found a particular group of moody SP’s for that article.


Offline Watts.E.Dunn

And not one "ess extra bby" in that article, not that represaentive of the SP population!...

Offline TallnHung

I often get off on her getting off.
I also like some good DFK.

Yeah I'm paying for it but if its fun for both even better and that won't stop me trying.
Whether they are all faking I don't know and probably never will!

Online Southernbloke

One WG told me that turning up on time and not haggling was a sure fire way to give her pleasure 😆
« Last Edit: March 18, 2023, 05:52:01 am by Southernbloke »

Offline Strawberry

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A punter, a repeat booker was the first person to ever give me an orgasm. Prior to that I had onky ever gotten myself off and in private - because of the technique I used I actually didn't know how to get it into sex. He just kept going with his tongue in a particular position, then it happened. This enabled me to bring it into other bookings, so others if interested can bring me off.

I totally agree with Miss Wolf's words about being easy to make arrangements with, turning up with correct money (even some adamant the money is correct do make mistakes), enjoy themselves, don't try to push boundaries or time. Absolute delight to be with.

Offline pantywetter

I enjoy seeing the girl get off, and I am pretty sure that if they have a good time then you both have a good time.

I have had a few punts where I meet someone cold and they are like a different person after you’ve been muff diving.

As someone who loves GFE I would hate a one way punt.

Online RandomGuy99

Usually I don't bother trying to please an SP other than turning up on time, clean with the right money and generally try to cause no problems. However, sometimes you read reviews where an SP gets orgasms maybe every booking, so that makes you try to give the SP an orgasm like everyone else has. You make an effort and pressure yourself to try to make that happen. When it doesn't happen you feel a total failure as everyone else managed it. Lesson I learned is just don't try to please the SP sexually. Don't try to do what everyone else did. Do you.

Bookings are all about you. Turn up on time, clean with the right money. Be respectful and enjoy yourself.  Relax and don't pressure yourself about anything.  If you do that and are happy at the end of the booking, then the SP will be happy too.
« Last Edit: March 18, 2023, 09:06:05 am by RandomGuy99 »

Online Doc Holliday

I was always of the view that if I try to provide pleasure to an escort then that would turn her on, and would make for great two-way sex.

I was clearly delusional as the news article below suggests.


Does it actually matter? Presumably you have been enjoying your sessions for the last three years, unaware of this article which was actually written in 2020?

Online Doc Holliday

However, sometimes you read reviews where an SP gets orgasms maybe every booking, so that makes you try to give the SP an orgasm like everyone else has. You make an effort and pressure yourself to try to make that happen.

Yes such reviews are a problem for SP's as well.

Offline KatieEdinburgh

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However, sometimes you read reviews where an SP gets orgasms maybe every booking, so that makes you try to give the SP an orgasm like everyone else has. You make an effort and pressure yourself to try to make that happen. When it doesn't happen you feel a total failure as everyone else managed it.

You’re assuming just because a bunch of random guys on the internet wrote something it must be the truth :lol: Reports on here aren’t always 100% true especially when they’re talking about their own sexual prowess, they’re just reviewing themselves

I wouldn’t give it one iota of worry to compare yourself to anyone else which you seem to have realised so that’s good  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Online RandomGuy99

You’re assuming just because a bunch of random guys on the internet wrote something it must be the truth :lol: Reports on here aren’t always 100% true especially when they’re talking about their own sexual prowess, they’re just reviewing themselves

I wouldn’t give it one iota of worry to compare yourself to anyone else which you seem to have realised so that’s good  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
It was the SP's own reviews of bookings not SSs. They set expectations that I felt I had to live up to (dumb I know, but that was me) and just failed to do.  I would try to figure out what I was doing wrong.  I thought I'll crack this at some point.  It turned out I was doing absolutely everything wrong and I didn't know it at the time. I got myself into a strange situation.

If you feel you're pressuring yourself to perform, then you're doing it wrong. Lesson learned. Not ever doing that again.

Offline Stevelondon

Miss Wolf is a star! However, she may be an exception.

Judging by what those ladies interviewed by the Metro newspaper have said, providing reverse oral on them would be something that they dislike.

I could do that article, interviewing the SP’s I have seen over the last few months. I assure you. They would disagree with your statement.


Online Doc Holliday

I could do that article, interviewing the SP’s I have seen over the last few months. I assure you. They would disagree with your statement.

sex workers tend to give the answers that the interviewer is looking for,

 ;)

Offline Strawberry

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;)

Also journalists will choose participants, direct the interview, interpret the answers, convert this into the article they want to write.

Offline Hobbit

I pay escorts to leave and not for sex. Women in general are a nightmare to be with. I have no intention of sexually pleasing a hooker. It's my time and my money so I want her to please me.

Offline Hobbit

Also journalists will choose participants, direct the interview, interpret the answers, convert this into the article they want to write.

Or escorts will say whatever to ensure the client returns. Even if it means faking a few orgasms or telling them that they're good in bed even though they can't stand being with them. You just have to read some of the threads on SAAFE if you doubt what I say. That's why I never trust hookers.

Offline PilotMan

I used to treat my punts almost like sex with a civvy, as though it were a mutually desired act.

I gradually gave up on the thought of getting the girl to orgasm, RO etc. I now focus more on non genital erogenous touching and kissing. If a girl really gets in to it, and she smells fresh, I may consider RO, but that's an exception.

If a girl doesn't orgasm it doesn't bother me, nor reduce my enjoyment. I take the view that she's probably had several dicks already that day and spent herself.

I have have been surprised recently, by two SP's who said they had an orgasm when they weren't expecting to. Before one of them got on top she complained that I hadn't given her RO, which she said she needed to get going.

As for being clean, having the right money (no haggling) being on time, I expect that and do that myself as a given.

Sadly, some SP's decide to advise you of eggstras only when you get in the room, often contradicting what has already been confirmed on text.

Some SP's haven't washed after the previous punter, I remember getting the minty aftertaste of what was leftover of another punter (chewing gum no doubt) when licking a girls nipples.  :thumbsdown:

Too many girls fail to be ready at the agreed time, "I'll be five minutes baby", that turns in to 30.

Offline PilotMan

Women in general are a nightmare to be with.

That's why I never trust hookers.

Sounds like you apply this to women in general, not just hookers.


« Last Edit: March 18, 2023, 11:02:17 am by PilotMan »

Offline badsin

I get off on her getting off.

This.
I've done this with SP's, SB's , even masseuse's. I've never received negative comments for this.

Online alabama1

I pay escorts to leave and not for sex. Women in general are a nightmare to be with. I have no intention of sexually pleasing a hooker. It's my time and my money so I want her to please me.
Run that by me again ! You don't pay escorts for sex  :unknown:

Online RandomGuy99

Run that by me again ! You don't pay escorts for sex  :unknown:
I think me means no attachment or complexities just sex and then they or he goes.

Offline PilotMan

Run that by me again ! You don't pay escorts for sex  :unknown:

It's an old saying / joke.

Read as.....I don't like women, but I need to fuck. So once I get what I need, I really don't want anything more to do with them.

Hence, I pay them to leave.

Ordinarily, I would have taken it a bit tongue in cheek. But given the OP's other comment about women in general,  it would say it's more of a misogynistic trait in his case.

« Last Edit: March 18, 2023, 12:31:52 pm by PilotMan »

Offline KBW1999

I used to treat my punts almost like sex with a civvy, as though it were a mutually desired act.

I gradually gave up on the thought of getting the girl to orgasm, RO etc. I now focus more on non genital erogenous touching and kissing. If a girl really gets in to it, and she smells fresh, I may consider RO, but that's an exception.

If a girl doesn't orgasm it doesn't bother me, nor reduce my enjoyment. I take the view that she's probably had several dicks already that day and spent herself.

I have have been surprised recently, by two SP's who said they had an orgasm when they weren't expecting to. Before one of them got on top she complained that I hadn't given her RO, which she said she needed to get going.

Personally I think it depends on the situation, the respect has to be a 2 way street, so I turn up on time or keep them informed if I am running a bit late, clean, treat them with respect, don't haggle and pay when I first see them. If I need to shower before the fun, then I will make that clear when I make the booking. If they uphold thier end of the business transaction, then I will go for the GFE experience and peform RO and kiss them, if they fuck me about, by saying 5 minutes baby, or are not clean or haggle over what they've previously agreed, then I'll either walk - which I do quite often now as I get older and money gets tighter, or I will just take the relief I need and leave.

It's quite simple really, the good SPs know that respect is a 2 way street and therefore both of us gain from the meet.

As for being clean, having the right money (no haggling) being on time, I expect that and do that myself as a given.

Sadly, some SP's decide to advise you of eggstras only when you get in the room, often contradicting what has already been confirmed on text.

Some SP's haven't washed after the previous punter, I remember getting the minty aftertaste of what was leftover of another punter (chewing gum no doubt) when licking a girls nipples.  :thumbsdown:

Too many girls fail to be ready at the agreed time, "I'll be five minutes baby", that turns in to 30.

Offline Jomoore

While not losing sight of the fact that fundamentally it's me paying to get me pleasured, I always start with a new lass on the basis that if we have a decent rapport (which you can start to sense in the first minutes) it's worth the investment of time trying to help her enjoy the session.   This reflects the fact that a great paid session simulates good civvy encounters, none of those of which occur without a decent rapport and mutual attraction, of course.  If my efforts fail, fair enough, lie back and think of England, and onto the next one  :thumbsup:

Online alabama1

It's an old saying / joke.

Read as.....I don't like women, but I need to fuck. So once I get what I need, I really don't want anything more to do with them.

Hence, I pay them to leave.

Ordinarily, I would have taken it a bit tongue in cheek. But given the OP's other comment about women in general,  it would say it's more of a misogynistic trait in his case.
Yeah, i understood that it was a joke, it's just that he told it wrong. What he should of said was ' i pay to have sex with them, then for them to leave'. Not 'i don't pay them for sex'. Can you tell i'm bored !  :D

Offline KBW1999

I think it's quite simple, respect is a 2 way street, the good SPs know this, so if I'm expected to turn up on time, not haggle, be respectful and clean, then the good SPs know that they have to do the same. So once services are agreed, don't say esstra bby when expected in the meet, they make sure they're fresh and clean and if they're prepared to deliver a good service, if you want to try and give them pleasure as well, why not? If they hit you with esstra bby, or make you wait over say 15 minutes from the agreed time, just take your pleasure and leave :unknown:


Online hendrix

I pay escorts to leave and not for sex. Women in general are a nightmare to be with. I have no intention of sexually pleasing a hooker. It's my time and my money so I want her to please me.

100% my approach, plus I get no pleasure from giving pleasure.

Offline Jomoore

I pay escorts to leave and not for sex. Women in general are a nightmare to be with. I have no intention of sexually pleasing a hooker. It's my time and my money so I want her to please me.

You can see why many women regard us as dysfunctional creeps.  :thumbsdown:

Online alabama1

You can see why many women regard us as dysfunctional creeps.  :thumbsdown:
And how have you arrived at that sweeping assumption.  :unknown:
« Last Edit: March 18, 2023, 04:35:19 pm by alabama1 »

Offline Payyourwaymate

Why would you pay and then to try and pleasure someone when the star of the movie is meant to be yourself in the particular interaction? Not them. Do not underestimate the disdain some SPs have for their clients. A client, whom they are already not attracted to, trying to please them instead of finishing as quick as possible and leaving just gives more work for them.

Offline Nagilum

It depends. If you are the first client of the day, you are more likey to get her off. If you are the 8th of the day, I would save my energy.

It also changes with regulars and understanding thier kinks.

Don't let this article sway you. Do what makes you happy!

Offline MissWolf

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It depends. If you are the first client of the day, you are more likey to get her off. If you are the 8th of the day, I would save my energy.

It also changes with regulars and understanding thier kinks.

Don't let this article sway you. Do what makes you happy!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Online Doc Holliday

It depends. If you are the first client of the day, you are more likey to get her off. If you are the 8th of the day, I would save my energy.


I'm really curious as to your logic with that?

Online hendrix

You can see why many women regard us as dysfunctional creeps.  :thumbsdown:

I don't know what's "dysfunctional" about knowing what you want, and buying it from someone who's selling it, while respecting all the requirements of the transaction. :unknown:


Offline KatieEdinburgh

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It depends. If you are the first client of the day, you are more likey to get her off. If you are the 8th of the day, I would save my energy.

It also changes with regulars and understanding thier kinks.

Don't let this article sway you. Do what makes you happy!

How would you be able to tell how many clients she has seen?

Also most likely to get you off being the first client of the day is massively, factually wrong lol.

Online Southernbloke

Like everyone there are times when you are in the mood and sometimes you are not. .

Offline big-al93

Like everything else in punting (and much of life), surely it would depend entirely on the individuals involved. Yes, for the less enlightened on here, SP's are people too, yes their job is to try to ensure that you enjoy your time with them, but that might be that the best way for that to happen is for them to enjoy their time with you too. But this will not be the case for all.

I would imagine that this is more likely to be the case for lower volume providers, and those that work (are available anyway) all day every day with a revolving door policy are less likely to want to receive pleasure from their clients.

When I say enjoy their time with you, does not necessarily mean bringing them off, it could be anything, they may enjoy RO or fingering or whatever (ask what she enjoys if you need to), just don't think an orgasam with every client is realistic, it does not mean that she is not enjoying your attentions, and if it does happen (genuinely, I take a faked one as a sign she would rather I stopped) it doesn't mean she is in love with you and couldn't help herself.