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Cornish sub

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This looks interesting at 10pm - Prostitution: What's The Harm?

Offline Jimmyredcab

BBC 3 at 22-00 tonight, a discussion on prostitution, the buyers and sellers.    :hi:

Offline CBPaul

I'll have to download it on iPlayer but my hopes aren't high.  Thanks for the heads up though.

vorian

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What's the betting that they will focus on street walkers,  trafficking and brothels who have trafficked girls in them. Oh underage girls will be mentioned and underage trafficked girls.

The BBC imo is controlled by the left, I hope I'm wrong but I don't think we will see any real representation of punters and prossies.  Will the indie scene be discussed in depth I doubt it.

Offline CBPaul

What's the betting that they will focus on street walkers,  trafficking and brothels who have trafficked girls in them. Oh underage girls will be mentioned and underage trafficked girls.

The BBC imo is controlled by the left, I hope I'm wrong but I don't think we will see any real representation of punters and prossies.  Will the indie scene be discussed in depth I doubt it.

I fear it will be exactly that, the usual bollocks stereotypical view and she'll probably only interview one or two punters.

Offline Anadin

Given BBC3s audience it's gonna be a terrible show for children.

vorian

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I fear it will be exactly that, the usual bollocks stereotypical view and she'll probably only interview one or two punters.

No doubt a couple of dirty mac stereotypes with multiple convictions for kerb crawling.  :dash:

Offline CBPaul

Given BBC3s audience it's gonna be a terrible show for children.

Just had a look for the presenter - looks like it's going to be presented by children too. She'll probably end up terribly upset at the way the nasty dirty punters take advantage of the poor innocent girls.
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Offline NIK

I'm still wondering what happened to that proposed C4 programme. Look like the BBC have beaten them to it.

vorian

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Just had a look for the presenter - looks like it's going to be presented by children too. She'll probably end up terribly upset at the way the nasty dirty punters take advantage of the poor innocent girls.

Don't forget poor innocent "Trafficked" girls.

vorian

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I'm still wondering what happened to that proposed C4 programme. Look like the BBC have beaten them to it.

Maybe they couldn't find enough people to interview that fitted into the agenda they wanted to push.

potato

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Well the woman's hour interviews have in the main been balanced so far but TV is a different matter.

Offline CBPaul

Don't forget poor innocent "Trafficked" girls.

Yep, sorry, missed that out. Definitely trafficked too.

Gordo987

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What's the betting that they will focus on street walkers,  trafficking and brothels who have trafficked girls in them. Oh underage girls will be mentioned and underage trafficked girls.

The BBC imo is controlled by the left, I hope I'm wrong but I don't think we will see any real representation of punters and prossies.  Will the indie scene be discussed in depth I doubt it.

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Offline Qwerty

What's the betting that they will focus on street walkers,  trafficking and brothels who have trafficked girls in them. Oh underage girls will be mentioned and underage trafficked girls.

The BBC imo is controlled by the left, I hope I'm wrong but I don't think we will see any real representation of punters and prossies.  Will the indie scene be discussed in depth I doubt it.

Well I've seen plenty of arguments suggesting the Beeb in fact subscribes to the right-wing status quo...

In any case, not sure the subject is really a left/right issue, rather authoritarian vs libertarian, which can be found on both sides. Right-wing authoritarians want to penalise the WGs, left-wing ones the punters - libertarians both left and right view it as a private matter, best left there except where it can be shown to cause harm, e.g. trafficking, coercion etc.

I should imagine most of us on here are pretty libertarian on this subject :-) Unfortunately libertarians also tend not to want to be elected - as this means being in authority, so we end up with politicians who want to interfere with our lives in one way or another.

And the journos who produce these programmes are looking for something sensational that viewers will feel outraged about. Man pays woman for sex, both happy, isn't much of a story.


vorian

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Well I've seen plenty of arguments suggesting the Beeb in fact subscribes to the right-wing status quo...

In any case, not sure the subject is really a left/right issue, rather authoritarian vs libertarian, which can be found on both sides. Right-wing authoritarians want to penalise the WGs, left-wing ones the punters - libertarians both left and right view it as a private matter, best left there except where it can be shown to cause harm, e.g. trafficking, coercion etc.

I should imagine most of us on here are pretty libertarian on this subject :-) Unfortunately libertarians also tend not to want to be elected - as this means being in authority, so we end up with politicians who want to interfere with our lives in one way or another.

And the journos who produce these programmes are looking for something sensational that viewers will feel outraged about. Man pays woman for sex, both happy, isn't much of a story.

Very well put and I should have been clearer, the criminalisation of punters seems to be more of a concern to the Labour party HH for example than to the Conservatives. Across europe again it seems an issue that is more important to the socialist parties. Of course I am sure expectations can be found. Cleverly it has also been linked over the last couple of decades to the feminist movement (Which is odd in itself). "BBC controlled by the left" was an overstatement on my part, however I do believe it has bias towards the left over the right. In a very general sense and if anyone is to legislate anti-punting laws then I think that is more likely to come from the left as opposed to the right.

An article below about studies showing left wing bias in the BBC. Of course I am sure there will be studies saying the opposite as well.

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Gordo987

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Very well put and I should have been clearer, the criminalisation of punters seems to be more of a concern to the Labour party HH for example than to the Conservatives. Across europe again it seems an issue that is more important to the socialist parties. Of course I am sure expectations can be found. Cleverly it has also been linked over the last couple of decades to the feminist movement (Which is odd in itself). "BBC controlled by the left" was an overstatement on my part, however I do believe it has bias towards the left over the right. In a very general sense and if anyone is to legislate anti-punting laws then I think that is more likely to come from the left as opposed to the right.

An article below about studies showing left wing bias in the BBC. Of course I am sure there will be studies saying the opposite as well.

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The Daily Telegraph is making accusations about bias? Shocking :wacko:


vorian

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Pointing out spelling mistakes and typos in other peoples posts Gordo, really is that the level of maturity we are at now, well I apologize or is it apologise I can never remember.  :hi:

Of course you are right about bias in the media, any media, which is why I said opposing studies could also be found, it is still an interesting article if you read it.

 

Gordo987

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Pointing out spelling mistakes and typos in other peoples posts Gordo, really is that the level of maturity we are at now, well I apologize or is it apologise I can never remember.  :hi:


Yes, it is  :thumbsup:

Of course you are right about bias in the media, any media, which is why I said opposing studies could also be found, it is still an interesting article if you read it.

No, I won't  :thumbsdown:

Cornish sub

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I love the way this programme's being analysed/slagged off before it's even been shown. Looking forward to the post screening comments though.

Gordo987

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I love the way this programme's being analysed/slagged off before it's even been shown. Looking forward to the post screening comments though.

Quite  :hi:

Offline Qwerty

An article below about studies showing left wing bias in the BBC. Of course I am sure there will be studies saying the opposite as well.

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Indeed, the opposite point of view, from (believe it or not :) ) The Guardian:

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But as I say, that's not really the issue. People in authority don't like prostitution, because it's not easily controlled, what's more it's an easy target for self-appointed moral guardians of society - attack it, and you get votes from the section of society most likely to vote: middle-income families.

As I said, historically the right has gone after the WGs - now that the downside of doing that has become clearer, it's the left's turn to go after the punters instead.

vorian

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Indeed, the opposite point of view, from (believe it or not :) ) The Guardian:

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But as I say, that's not really the issue. People in authority don't like prostitution, because it's not easily controlled, what's more it's an easy target for self-appointed moral guardians of society - attack it, and you get votes from the section of society most likely to vote: middle-income families.

As I said, historically the right has gone after the WGs - now that the downside of doing that has become clearer, it's the left's turn to go after the punters instead.

Very well put Felix, as you said easy targets with no real public voice.

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But Porter also investigates prostitution’s darker side – 140 sex workers have been murdered in Britain since 1990. She visits the site of one such killing and also hears from a former street sex worker about the violence and degradation she experienced.

So feature performers according to twitter are former brothel madam Becky Adams.
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Might actually give us two sides to the story. I'll wait and see.

domino131

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Personally I've always thought there's a clear right-wing/pro-tory bias in the BBC, but their problems are more to do with shoddy reporting techniques like 'balanced' interview panels (consisting of two people with extreme polarised views, neither of which are representative of a significant number of people), or using vox-pop views instead of getting information from experts.  Certainly during the AV referendum their reporting on it was hugely biased in favour of the 'No' side of the argument.

But that's all a bit of a digression.  Will watch this programme with interest when I have the chance, but I'm preparing for it to give it the 'Benefits Street' treatment.

Offline Marmalade

The presenter is Billie JD Porter. Unfortunately calling anything she presents a "documentary" is about as silly expecting an airhead former model with a posh accent to be able to expose the "real truth" (as she frequently claims) about anything. She's just a silly wee girlie. Any bias is probably made up on the spot as long as she gets paid for it. An infuriating little cow.

Apparently though she does have some good points. As one blogger wrote:

"She comes across as very judgmental. She portrays this image of a liberal 'cool indie' girl but throughout the series she sat there judging everyone she interviewed. And her fake "edgy and cool" monotone voice. I just don't think she was suitable for that show. And I hate her smug "I'm so London" face. Although I must add, I quite like her hair."

domino131

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to expose the "real truth" (as she frequently claims) about anything.

This is, I believe, what is known as a tautology.

a10

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Bias already. Pointed out the "guide" has a history of drug addiction. We're already told she'll "uncover the real cost of prostitution"  :dash: Now we're off to Prague FFS wasn't this supposed to be about prostitution in the UK?

Offline tomcat600

I get the impression she would be a boring shag

password02

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Its 20 mins in and not really said much!!! However like the K5 place

vorian

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I get the impression she would be a boring shag

She should have gone undercover,  wonder what's on her likes list.  :D

password02

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25 mins in and the first mention of AW

Offline tomcat600

NNNOOOOOOO!!!!! she said the AW word.

Pompoy123

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vorian

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Can't get on AW now, guess the server is struggling with extra traffic FFS.

Pompoy123

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Just great. It's all messed up :(

password02

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Suddenly an extra 1,000 new punters are viewing AW - More revenue for AW on the back of advertising from the BBC

Offline Jimmyredcab

Fantastic free publicity for Adultwork, they couldn't buy that sort of publicity.    :music:

Offline tomcat600

The bookings must be going mad tonight

vorian

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Assuming they can get on, AW still not working for me, just hope she doesn't mention UKP or I might be forced to read PN. Please god anything but that.

Pompoy123

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The presenter is hot. I'd give her a ride around time :)

Offline ladiesman020

Who's that charlotte aw model/escort
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Offline Jimmyredcab

I get the impression she would be a boring shag

If I found a pro$$ie who looked like Billie JD Porter I would be skint within 6 months, just my type.   :hi:

Stealthshagger

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If I found a pro$$ie who looked like Billie JD Porter I would be skint within 6 months, just my type.   :hi:

Even if she were Romanian? I see what you're saying though.

vorian

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If I found a pro$$ie who looked like Billie JD Porter I would be skint within 6 months, just my type.   :hi:

I'm with you on that Jimmy,  she is fit for sure.

Offline MrMan1973

She used to do an online blog, she is no stranger to sex with older men.
Size. 8, BJ Lips, gappy teeth. She is fit for sure.

At the risk of sounding fluffy the programme is quite balanced so far.

vorian

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That's strange have a look at the stats page there is a couple of thousand people viewing UKP at the moment and a couple of hundred on PN. 

Offline ladiesman020

God who is that girl. I wanna book her
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Offline Marmalade

I'm with you on that Jimmy,  she is fit for sure.

she's done not bad so far,  quite balanced. Don't fancy the high priced tattooed slapper.

Didnt think much of the hair.

Offline NIK

As boring as most tv shows about prossying. And why have a presenter who looks about 15?  :unknown: