Holly - Olina - Paddington

[paul2paul]

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1 hour £140 with frequent fuckers discount. As usual, comms excellent with agency.

Venue - flat near Paddington. Clean.

I was attracted to her photos and some positive reviews but the air brushing proved too good. Holly is short, thin with bolt ons that land at odd angles. The action was failrly non commited, going through the motions with not much enthusiam. Her loud phone kept buzzing and she seemed more interested in it than attending to me. Honestly don't remeber too much of the punt, just the negative vide and the unesthusiatic sex.

Compared to some of her stable mates, Holly is way off the pace. Perhaps it was an off day for both of us but I won't bother finding out if it can be any better.
 

[Prifessionallondinguy]

Cheers for posting. 
With quite a few options available on Olina it’s good information to know.

[BillGoldberg]

Thanks for this 

With the dearth of genuine talent currently on offer (Anna excepted) the reviews for what, 10-15 years ago, would've been fair to middling based on the high calibre of Thai girls in abundance at the time , are becoming increasingly fluffy and forgiving.

There is not a single young (or at least youthful looking) reliable, consistent, high calibre PSE performing, attractive Thai girl at the standard £140/£150/hr rate (or at any rate as far as I'm aware) in London.

The current scene is absolute unparalleled shite and your unfortunate experience confirms this for me.

Sorry you wasted your cash on a lazy, undeserving, meh escort and thanks again for providing some much needed realistic feedback.

[flamingice]

Looks like a consistent bad provider.  See my negative review of her from last month here:
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=340376.0

One to be avoided.

But I have found out something far worse about Olina which needs to be flagged with some urgency and seriousness…

Olina installs cameras at the entrance of the WG flats, which are constantly on and monitoring everyone going in and out.  When you think you’re getting a magic door opener, they are getting a full frontal view of you.

Make sure you smile next time you see an Olina girl.  I recently saw another one of their WGs who then told me about this (basically warning me).  I am now going to have to forego writing a review to protect her identity, because it does not seem to be safe being a WG, working for them.  Frankly does not seem to be safe to be a punter using them either.

It’s disgusting.  Olina already told me they like to keep track of their punters (and this is bad for me because I always use a burner number - so I forego getting discounts, and now they also try and stop new numbers seeing some of their better rated newer girls).  I understand they like the WGs to provide full reports and feed back any intel about punters, so they have a database, complete, now it seems in addition to your cock size, a photo of you!!      

This agency needs to be AVOIDED

[peter jb]

I punt infrequently now , but some of girls may prefer this arrangement, living on their own , opening doors to complete strangers. When I started punting Thai hookers around 2005 , there were numerous examples of girls being robbed at knifepoint, in an almost monthly basis.
Cameras may also be why girls now rarely go over time with a punter if the agency can keep a check .

[flamingice]

A camera with a self erasing memory every hour unless it is stored because there’s been an incident, I am more sympathetic to. I am far less sympathetic to a live stream going back to Olina HQ, where the WG is terrified and tells me in a very quiet voice (so I think there’s sound too) that “they’re watching”.

Either way you seem pretty chill about this. I don’t think that’s going to be the consensus view here. We want anonymity. And it’s even less cool against the broader backdrop of them logging our numbers, profiling punters, gathering intel.

[Jeffe]

A camera with a self erasing memory every hour unless it is stored because there’s been an incident, I am more sympathetic to. I am far less sympathetic to a live stream going back to Olina HQ, where the WG is terrified and tells me in a very quiet voice (so I think there’s sound too) that “they’re watching”.

Either way you seem pretty chill about this. I don’t think that’s going to be the consensus view here. We want anonymity. And it’s even less cool against the broader backdrop of them logging our numbers, profiling punters, gathering intel.

If this is the case then it’s very concerning that such tabs are being kept on punters. Not sure what the angle is from their perspective (I suspect more about keeping tabs on the girls but who knows). Haven’t punted in quite a while and had considered some of the newer Thai arrivals but this makes me think twice to be honest

[LLPunting]

Pretty sure this makes them a data processor and subject  to DPA which means they must reveal what's on record for any customers requesting details and there's the right to be forgotten, only reason to maintain history is if they're actively seeking to prosecute for a crime.
Perhaps those with more immediate knowledge of associating CCTV with other personal data can confirm the implications? 

[Veinspulser]

They need to pay us for watching a live porno I reckon.

[themats]

This is very worrying. I was planning on a return to punting since covid lockdowns, with an Olina girl, but now will be steering well clear.

[BootsnBunches]

A camera with a self erasing memory every hour unless it is stored because there’s been an incident, I am more sympathetic to. I am far less sympathetic to a live stream going back to Olina HQ, where the WG is terrified and tells me in a very quiet voice (so I think there’s sound too) that “they’re watching”.

Either way you seem pretty chill about this. I don’t think that’s going to be the consensus view here. We want anonymity. And it’s even less cool against the broader backdrop of them logging our numbers, profiling punters, gathering intel.

Interesting you say this as exactly a year ago i had a similar experience with Toutsi at Diva (it was via Babylon) who I felt was positioning me to get me on camera. She offered an appalling service - I was out in half the time I paid for and when I commented to them they were aggressive and made false accusations. I do wonder how often such facilities are used.

[flamingice]

They need to pay us for watching a live porno I reckon.

My understanding is they are not currently filming in rooms, because the WG said that inside the room they cannot see.  But that does not mean that they won’t.  This whole set up makes me extremely uncomfortable and I won’t be back.  Of course everyone is an adult here and needs to make their own decision on what level of privacy they are willing to give up.

Speculating on Olina, I really think they keep their girls under lock and key, and micro monitor their movements.  Perhaps someone just needs to tip the authorities off and organise a raid to rat these guys out

[sunbunny]

"Speculating on Olina, I really think they keep their girls under lock and key..."
But very, very occasionally let Anna out to visit her Sugar daddy in The Shard? Lot of people working themselves up into a frenzy on this thread. I have no issues with Olina taking some basic measures to safeguard their girls from a bunch of complete strangers.

[dirtykirti]

yes agree with that

[Prifessionallondinguy]

"Speculating on Olina, I really think they keep their girls under lock and key..."
But very, very occasionally let Anna out to visit her Sugar daddy in The Shard? Lot of people working themselves up into a frenzy on this thread. I have no issues with Olina taking some basic measures to safeguard their girls from a bunch of complete strangers.

+1 absolutely… my thoughts too.

[ConanTheKuffar]

Of course everyone is an adult here and needs to make their own decision on what level of privacy they are willing to give up.

Exactly. It’s always a good idea to take OPSEC seriously, even if your job or personal life don’t make you particularly vulnerable to blackmail: use a punting phone/burner app for making appointments, wear a face mask when you enter an establishment that has CCTV above the door or in the reception area, don’t share your real name or details that could be used to identify you - and for the love of god don’t use bank transfer to pay for a punt or use a name on here that can be traced to your IRL social media accounts.

[Dikobraz]

She was on her 'off' day with me as well. I basically led the whole prdeal, even had to ask to put some music on. I think it's just how she works.

[scutty brown]

Lets face a piece of reality
Olina is an Asian pimping organisation that traffics girls into the UK from the far east. Each one of those girls is probably in debt-bondage to the guys behind the business, and the cameras are there to protect their illegal investment. To stop the girls from getting too friendly with punters and running away.
The signs are there: the lack of enthusiasm, the whispered warnings.
Two of you have suggested informing the police - in which case why haven't you done it? If you wait for someone else it'll never happen.
The cameras are all about controlling the girls. Trafficking in plain sight

[EasyRider21]

My understanding is they are not currently filming in rooms, because the WG said that inside the room they cannot see.  But that does not mean that they won’t.  This whole set up makes me extremely uncomfortable and I won’t be back.  Of course everyone is an adult here and needs to make their own decision on what level of privacy they are willing to give up.

Speculating on Olina, I really think they keep their girls under lock and key, and micro monitor their movements.  Perhaps someone just needs to tip the authorities off and organise a raid to rat these guys out

I feel like this thread is getting a bit out of hand. I'm not a lawyer but I'm pretty sure about the following:

1) Filming anyone inside or outside the flat is legal. You can install a camera overlooking your entrance door and no one will be able to succesfully sue you over it. Yes, it's not great to have your face recorded when you visit a WG but what exactly does it actually prove? Only that you have been to the place, not that you had sex with her. You can always claim that you visited the WG with hopes of punting but then got into a dispute and left the apartment. I have a hard time seeing how anyone can blackmail you with the recording (unless you cheat on your wife/girlfriend and can't come up with a plausible story as to what you were doing there). It's not a crime to have sex with a WG let alone go to her flat.

2) Filming ANYONE during sex without their consent is illegal in the UK. This applies to you filming the WG without her consent as well. If Olina or the WG were to film you having sex inside the flat then they would be committing a crime right there. There has been a landmark ruling about this issue two years ago. See information below:

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Of course you'd have to prove that they recorded you in secret. A tape could exist unbeknownst to you but why do you care about that as long as no one sees it? 

However, blackmailing you with that tape would be really stupid of them. Once they make the tape public you could reach out to the police and tell them that you have never consented to the recording. I'd love to see how they defend themselves in that scenario. Any further police investigation could reveal another bunch of illegal recordings made of other punters. Besides, blackmailing is also illegal. And bad for business too. They stand to lose far more money than making through the blackmail... 

I have a hard time seeing what they would gain by filming you during sex. As for visiting the premises, I can see how recording can help the police catch a punter who commits a crime against the WG.