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Offline Marmalade

If you find the standard prοssie-issue condom too tight for maximum sensitivity, you’ve maybe taken your own or a selection. The discussions have been on custom ones like My Size and One Fit (think I’ve got the names right?) and there are a few brands like Skyns large that have 57mm (or near enough) rather than 52mm which is common. (Then there’s non-latex ones but they don’t stretch).

Then Durex bring out a “feels like skin” supersensitive one at 57mm.

There used to be a sexologist called Tuppy Owens who did stretch-feel-taste-breaking-point reviews on condoms but that was a while ago and not much in the way of honest reviews since.

So I got a packet and stretched the buggers (between two hands, not my cock) and they seemed strong enough, then I tried bursting them. My fingernails are very trimmed, but even a slight touch managed to make it useless and torn. (I haven’t done the same tests on the other brands mentioned above yet).

Now with a sensitive hoor or a sensible civvie I’d have no problem but as hoors skills with condoms and fingernails vary as much as the discourse between Mr Trump and North Korea I’m less confident as yet on using them for a punt.

Opinions? Or does anyone know of some independent testing?
« Last Edit: July 19, 2019, 08:34:37 am by Marmalade »

Offline WASA38

If you find the standard prοssie-issue condom too tight for maximum sensitivity, you’ve maybe taken your own or a selection. The discussions have been on custom ones like My Size and One Fit (think I’ve got the names right?) and there are a few brands like Skyns large that have 57mm (or near enough) rather than 52mm which is common. (Then there’s non-latex ones but they don’t stretch).

Then Durex bring out a “feels like skin” supersensitive one at 57mm.

There used to be a sexologist called Tuppy Owens who did stretch-feel-taste-breaking-point reviews on condoms but that was a while ago and not much in the way of honest reviews since.

So I got a packet and stretched the buggers (between two hands, not my cock) and they seemed strong enough, then I tried bursting them. My fingernails are very trimmed, but even a slight touch managed to make it useless and torn. (I haven’t done the same tests on the other brands mentioned above yet).

Now with a sensitive hoor or a sensible civvie I’d have no problem but as hoors skills with condoms and fingernails vary as much as the discourse between Mr Trump and North Korea I’m less confident as yet on using them for a punt.

Opinions? Or does anyone know of some independent testing?

ONE Fit seem to be a bit of a US speciality but I am a fan of the readily available Vanish ONE Hyper Thins which I guess are the same material and thickness . Admittedly the first time I used one it disintegrated during vaginal sex and I ended up inadvertently indulging in BB sex with crossed fingers. However I am convinced that the SP had used a lipid-based cream as lubricant. Undeterred I have used them a number of times since and find them excellent, not only for sensitivity but for their fit. Although they are 53mm they have proved comfortable in contrast to most overly tight ones offered by SPs . Perhaps being so thin they exert less compression on the penis.

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I had a punt ruined a couple of years ago due to the SP having only one type of condom which was painfully tight and gave about as much sensitivity as a bicycle inner tube.  I was also finding that latex condoms were sometimes giving me a slight itching sensation for about an hour afterwards.

I spent an afternoon on the interweb, firstly researching various brands and then visiting a porn site so I could get to measure my little soldier standing at full attention.   Condom size is all about girth, which brought a smile to my face when I found my average length todger was actually in the large category due to its beer belly.    Armed with my vital statistics, I eventually settled on Skyns large, which I now take with me to every punt.  They are a comfortable fit, non-latex and all SP's have accepted using them, some quite enthusiastically.   I haven't carried out any scientific strength testing on them, but, so far, under practical conditions they have withstood the vagaries of many and varied orifices with a 100% success rate.   I will continue to test them as often as I can and in as many ways as possible just to make sure they are as good as they seem to be.  :D

Offline wylie anchor

I had a punt ruined a couple of years ago due to the SP having only one type of condom which was painfully tight and gave about as much sensitivity as a bicycle inner tube.  I was also finding that latex condoms were sometimes giving me a slight itching sensation for about an hour afterwards.

I spent an afternoon on the interweb, firstly researching various brands and then visiting a porn site so I could get to measure my little soldier standing at full attention.   Condom size is all about girth, which brought a smile to my face when I found my average length todger was actually in the large category due to its beer belly.    Armed with my vital statistics, I eventually settled on Skyns large, which I now take with me to every punt.  They are a comfortable fit, non-latex and all SP's have accepted using them, some quite enthusiastically.   I haven't carried out any scientific strength testing on them, but, so far, under practical conditions they have withstood the vagaries of many and varied orifices with a 100% success rate.   I will continue to test them as often as I can and in as many ways as possible just to make sure they are as good as they seem to be.  :D
Skyns large  :thumbsup:

Offline tantric talents

Recently been using pasante super king.
Seem to be very strong and reasonable feel.

Offline Marmalade

Found this fwiw...

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Of the 23 brands of latex condoms tested, the seven top types did not burst when filled with air. All met minimum industry standards.
The Durex Extra Sensitive Lubricated Latex brand performed best in strength tests. Others brands that scored well were the Durex Performax Lubricated, Lifestyles Classic Collection Ultra Sensitive Lubricated and TheyFit Lubricated.
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The tests suggested price, thickness and country of manufacturer didn't matter.

Spermicidal condoms offered no extra benefits in preventing pregnancy, had a shorter shelf life and may cause urinary-tract infections in young women, the report said.

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The link to the tests didn’t work when I tried it. I also wonder how they are devised.

For instance, Durex Confins used to be crap cos they were too short and fell off inside fannies when used by guys with long dicks. Condoms might be very strong tested by stretching of filling with air/water but the common-sense punter test would be how easily do they tear when nicked with a fingernail?

The subject of only using water-based girls with latex seems to be routinely discounted by prοssies of the thickest variety (prοssies, not the condoms). Personally I’m amazed that more condoms don’t burst due to vampire teeth scraping along them in thicko OW.

Side fact I came across on the dreaded excess lube (which disguises any natural fanny smell) is that smell signals cause the body to synthesise a chemical (cGMP) that allows the activation of the nitric oxide which increases erection. Maybe the reason I hate lube so much has some scientific basis beyond personal preference after all.

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The subject of only using water-based girls with latex seems to be routinely discounted by prοssies of the thickest variety


Now that sounds like my kind of poolside fantasy. I am happy to ignore the simpler ladies..
I’m in  :thumbsup:
My pool or yours?
« Last Edit: July 22, 2019, 03:08:42 pm by tantric talents »

Offline tantric talents


Side fact I came across on the dreaded excess lube (which disguises any natural fanny smell) is that smell signals cause the body to synthesise a chemical (cGMP) that allows the activation of the nitric oxide which increases erection. Maybe the reason I hate lube so much has some scientific basis beyond personal preference after all.


Now that does make a lot of sense. I think a similar thing probably happens with DFK and enzyme exchange. At least it does often have a similar effect on me!
Although smokers breath has a big inhibitory effect for me, I wonder if
mouthwash or oral disinfectant would actually inhibit that too?
« Last Edit: July 22, 2019, 03:07:18 pm by tantric talents »

Offline Marmalade

Now that does make a lot of sense. I think a similar thing probably happens with DFK and enzyme exchange. At least it does often have a similar effect on me!
Although smokers breath has a big inhibitory effect for me, I wonder if
mouthwash or oral disinfectant would actually inhibit that too?

I’ve not looked into that one. I’m very picky when it comes to taste and I find most prοssies taste less than optimum when they offer DFK, and generally worse than civvies. My experience has been the ones who offer it reluctantly or (hard to tell) at start of shift taste a bit better but no amount of listerine will make them taste natural. Gum chewing seems slightly better IMHO (I doubt if any engage in vodka rinsing which I sometimes do).

I’m sure certain perfumes can have a positive effect but nothing beats natural. While fresh is best, I’ve even stuck a finger up her arse to get some smell of reality as waves of artificial, dissociated sensory inputs fart all over the show from her in every direction.

I’ve not thought greatly about condom taste apart from feedback (any prοssies on here want to say something?). I’ll often wipe the damn thing after it’s on if she’s going to suck it. I really think putting it on is the punter’s business, as it’s hard to know in advance if she’s skilled (if she’s good at putting it on with her mouth it can be very pleasant of course). Small nicks caused by fingernails (or sharp teeth) might not be noticeable until they tear during hectic activity. Overall, condom breakage with prοssies has probably been lower than with civvies, but the punter has little way of knowing beforehand how clued up to the job she is. It sometimes seems more related to stupidity or lack of, rather than experience on the job.

4 top causes of breakage identified by one survey:

In order (most to least) :
Oil based lube
Contact with sharp objects
Problems with the fit or feel (stretched will break more easily)
Not squeezing air out
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Some prοssies ‘like to use their own’ — probably as a result of a one-off nutcase that descended into urban myth and who pin-pricked the condom for some perverse reason.

I rather guess that shagging a guy with a suffocating a small condom for his cock carries a greater risk. Take note, oh ye OW munchers and self-satisfied “I only have what they give or these crap ones I buy wholesale”.

Offline mradventures

ive only seen 1 sp for sex, but she stretched out the condom and then put it on while it was stretched out. in my civvy life ive always popped it over head and then rolled it down.

nitrile condoms might be worth looking at, but ive only used nitirile gloves, which where much better than any other disposable gloves ive used.

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ive only seen 1 sp for sex, but she stretched out the condom and then put it on while it was stretched out. in my civvy life ive always popped it over head and then rolled it down.

nitrile condoms might be worth looking at, but ive only used nitirile gloves, which where much better than any other disposable gloves ive used.

That's the way to do it, the stretch over technique is in my experience linked to splits, I've also caught men pulling the condom tight over the glans (head of cock). I will adjust and refit if necessary.

Sorry those of you have had to go through the strangulation phase, there are plenty of varieties out there to suit most sizes.

Offline Marmalade

That's the way to do it, the stretch over technique is in my experience linked to splits, I've also caught men pulling the condom tight over the glans (head of cock). I will adjust and refit if necessary.

Sorry those of you have had to go through the strangulation phase, there are plenty of varieties out there to suit most sizes.

Indeed there are plenty of sizes. But not all prοssies keep a supply of such a selection.

Do you care to clarify what technique you use yourself Strawberry?

I agree the stretch technique has problems although I’ve suffered it from many a prοssie without incident. It’s especially favoured I think by wham-bam specialists as it can also be used on a penis that is not fully erect quite easily. It can also unfortunately leave the tip full of air of course.

I prefer and personally use a rolling on method, as per the instructions and personal preference. Some prοssies of course don’t like the punter doing it and insist on stretching the damn thing. I admit that stretching it is probably easier for the woman, and should perhaps limit contact with nails if done well, but it’s amazing how many prοssies do it like that and think they are ‘expert’ at it!

The best and most pleasant way is when she puts it on with her mouth, squeezing the teat shut with her lips and then unrolling it along the length. But I imagine this is an acquired skill.

My other complaint about ‘selections’ is that some condoms are too short, though less so than they used to be (Durex was duly slagged off over it). If it’s too short it not only increases the chances of it coming off but makes it harder to check that it is still on. Which brings me to another somewhat annoying habit: the prοssie who keeps holding it with her fingers while shagging. Ok, touch it down there occasionally if it reassures but not a contortion to keep your hand on it ffs! (Little do they realise that if the thing has split, the top half will be floating about somewhere inside her while she vainly clutches the bottom half).


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Indeed there are plenty of sizes. But not all prοssies keep a supply of such a selection.

Do you care to clarify what technique you use yourself Strawberry?

I agree the stretch technique has problems although I’ve suffered it from many a prοssie without incident. It’s especially favoured I think by wham-bam specialists as it can also be used on a penis that is not fully erect quite easily. It can also unfortunately leave the tip full of air of course.

I prefer and personally use a rolling on method, as per the instructions and personal preference. Some prοssies of course don’t like the punter doing it and insist on stretching the damn thing. I admit that stretching it is probably easier for the woman, and should perhaps limit contact with nails if done well, but it’s amazing how many prοssies do it like that and think they are ‘expert’ at it!

The best and most pleasant way is when she puts it on with her mouth, squeezing the teat shut with her lips and then unrolling it along the length. But I imagine this is an acquired skill.

My other complaint about ‘selections’ is that some condoms are too short, though less so than they used to be (Durex was duly slagged off over it). If it’s too short it not only increases the chances of it coming off but makes it harder to check that it is still on. Which brings me to another somewhat annoying habit: the prοssie who keeps holding it with her fingers while shagging. Ok, touch it down there occasionally if it reassures but not a contortion to keep your hand on it ffs! (Little do they realise that if the thing has split, the top half will be floating about somewhere inside her while she vainly clutches the bottom half).

I use roll on, also roll off - quite a few wearers tend to snap it off. I can do the mouth trick, when using hands I secure the top in position with one hand, use the other to roll the length sort of moving my hands apart to maintain the loose teat at the end. Very occasionally when someone has a very wide head, I've had to use a slight stretch very cautiously but that has been rare and if appropriate I'll use a larger or king size condom. I have narrower and smaller too, a too large a condom can slip off. Roll on, roll off and knot neatly.


I've experience of someone holding theirs on, very uncomfortable he was afraid of skin to skin contact also didn't allow any kissing.

Also I've always been able to feel a change in sensation when a condom has split, it's not happened for years now but almost always detected.
« Last Edit: July 23, 2019, 11:46:20 am by Strawberry »

Offline winkywanky

Roll on and roll off is indeed the recommended method, and the safest.

Same as for ferries.

Offline tantric talents

Yes the two schools of stretch and roll.

One would expect that in Pro School the latter method should be taught as Lesson One 1a. :dash:  especially If you want your punter to come faster and therefore get spent and go sooner.

It beggars belief the number of girls who follow the first method giving the condom a good stretch, and getting as much air into it as possible so said punter has little or no glans sensations. The same girls who then complain after half an hour or more  intense workout - "  Haven't you come yet?" "Come BB Come"  :sarcastic:

Fortunately for me, I come usually when I want to and not her.
I don't think male ejaculation control is even mentioned in advanced classes at Pro School. :unknown:

I have found nonetheless that a girl who applies a condom orally usually knows what she is doing and it frequently leads to an above average punt.

Some of the larger condom wrappers can be a bugger to open however especially with slippy fingers if there has been some lube floating around before.
If teeth must be used, I usually prefer to let her do it, in case she thinks I'm trying to rip the contents.

However the moment I see the stretch about to happen I grab the thing from her, re-roll it back to the teat, and with a slow shake of the head, explain and teach her...
Lesson one, 1a............. :music:
« Last Edit: July 23, 2019, 11:47:09 am by tantric talents »

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Yes the two schools of stretch and roll.

One would expect that in Pro School the latter method should be taught as Lesson One 1a. :dash:  especially If you want your punter to come faster and therefore get spent and go sooner.

It beggars belief the number of girls who follow the first method giving the condom a good stretch, and getting as much air into it as possible so said punter has little or no glans sensations. The same girls who then complain after half an hour or more  intense workout - "  Haven't you come yet?" "Come BB Come"  :sarcastic:

Fortunately for me, I come usually when I want to and not her.
I don't think male ejaculation control is even mentioned in advanced classes at Pro School. :unknown:

I have found nonetheless that a girl who applies a condom orally usually knows what she is doing and it frequently leads to an above average punt.

Some of the larger condom wrappers can be a bugger to open however especially with slippy fingers if there has been some lube floating around before.
If teeth must be used, I usually prefer to let her do it, in case she thinks I'm trying to rip the contents.

However the moment I see the stretch about to happen I grab the thing from her, re-roll it back to the teat, and with a slow shake of the head teach her...
Lesson one, 1a............. :music:

Don't even mention ballooning  :scare:

Offline Marmalade

I use roll down, also roll off - quite a few wearers tend to snap it off. I roll on, roll off and knot neatly.

Nice one, very professional. Snapping it off and whipping the prοssie with it or splashing it across the duvet, while shouting “Yee haaaa!!!” is slightly uncalled-for machismo  :sarcastic:

I guess it also depends on how soon a guy becomes flaccid after a shot. I prefer not to take it off immediately (and you have to watch for hairs getting trapped if the guy isn’t well-trimmed). Of course if it’s a long booking you can afford to take your time I guess... .
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I've experience of someone holding theirs on, very uncomfortable he was afraid of skin to skin contact also didn't allow any kissing.
What a clown. I would have been so tempted to crack a joke in your position. But I guess he paid for his time and I trust you treated him with kindness befitting a member of his herd with reduced capacity for interaction. Sad but true. He’s the paying customer so if he’s not abusive you owe him every courtesy. But same note as above: holding on to it doesn’t mean it hasn’t split. At best it means that, if intact, it hasn’t slipped off, but that in turn suggests that the wrong length of condom is maybe being used. If he has a ten-foot dick he should take his own.


Offline Marmalade

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Some of the larger condom wrappers can be a bugger to open however especially with slippy fingers if there has been some lube floating around before.
If teeth must be used, I usually pre

I sometimes wonder if condom manufacturers ever use them themselves. Ditto above twice for some of the boxes of three. If McVities can add a simple strip to open a packet of digestives, you’d think Durex would bloody well twig. Always take loose condoms, never an unopened box.


Offline Doc Holliday

Interesting topic again.

We kinow that condoms are very reliable and effectiveness figures are in the high 90s for both contraception and prevention of stis when used correctly. This will drop considerably one you don’t follow the rules.

Many reasons for 'user error' have already been discussed. I would add a couple of other observations.

Many girls starting out for the first time in this job have very little experience of using condoms (often zero) and even less experience of putting one on. In civvy life if condoms are used at all, it is almost exclusively a male dominated procedure, but this balance reverses with prostitution?

As mentioned rolling a condom on can be very difficult on a semi erect penis, hence the stretching technique. Rolling may also take longer and can exacerbate mr floppy especially if she pushes the teat  through the wrong way and it won’t roll down. Then again I’m sure we have all done that at some point.  Now some girls work out themselves that stretching helps overcome some issues but from conversations others are taught this technique by other SPs especially in the parlour environment.
It is indeed a miracle given female finger nails that many more do not puncture. I have had this happen a number of times but it has always been very obvious and a new condom opened.

The use of mouth is indeed something of an art form and helps overcome some of the psychological causes of mr floppy and condoms. But teeth could puncture under the right circumstances. That said it has never happened to me.

Re quality. Very early on in my punting ‘career’ and after less than a minute of penetration with an SP a condom ruptured. We both felt something was wrong at the same time. She put on another one (carefully rolled on) and within next to no time same thing happened. “Been having problems with these parlour condoms all day .. they are rubbish. I’ll get one of my own” She leaves and returns with another which survives ok. To put that into perspective, there was only ever one other time in well over 500 punts that a condom ruptured (or at least that I was aware of) So ..... poor quality batch?

Lubes have been covered in terms of water based for latex. Natural lube  is of course best but not always available. Saliva is sometimes frowned upon? It may be worth mentioning that lipstick is oil based and some recommend changing condoms between OW and penetration. My own view is this is largely a theoretical risk?

Finally full circle to size. One size generally does fit most but there are extremes. The danger once again is that if you are well endowed in terms of girth and prefer a king size then you must remain fully erect or there is a greater danger of it coming off than if you squeeze into a standard. Balance of comfort v safety. If you are at the extreme lower end of size then standard condoms coming off is likely to be a regular occupational hazard for you and you should expect her to constantly check for this. Life can be cruel  :D

Offline Marmalade

GET the MyFit by seeing what size is a bit too tight. Eg if the Skyns large is a tad too tight go up a couple of mm. No point in getting them too big. They’re condoms not fanny buckets.

Offline mradventures

on the splitting thing and finger check on base, id agree thats ineffective, when i had one break on me with a gf i had no idea it had gone, i just had the excess "ring" around the base of my dick when i pulled out :(

Offline the_exile

Many girls starting out for the first time in this job have very little experience of using condoms (often zero) and even less experience of putting one on. In civvy life if condoms are used at all, it is almost exclusively a male dominated procedure, but this balance reverses with prostitution?

As mentioned rolling a condom on can be very difficult on a semi erect penis, hence the stretching technique. Rolling may also take longer and can exacerbate mr floppy especially if she pushes the teat  through the wrong way and it won’t roll down. Then again I’m sure we have all done that at some point.  Now some girls work out themselves that stretching helps overcome some issues but from conversations others are taught this technique by other SPs especially in the parlour environment.

Hadnt thought about it like that before but yes, outside of punts it would be me putting the condom on myself, would not expect the woman to do it.

Re: stretching the condom over the cock I can see why an SP might want to do it this way if your not fully erect but I have had girls use this technique with me when I have been very hard, then struggled to drag the condom into place. Would have been easier for them to roll the condom on!