Admin Permission Given-Help us with important Research - Customer Survey

[RosieBTG]

Hi UK Punting Members! I have admin permission to post about our research Beyond the Gaze- a big thanks to UK Punting!

If you're a customer of escorts who advertise on line or via apps or you purchase webcamming services or are a customer of a professional dominatrix please think about helping us out & contributing to an important study of internet based sex work.

The research project ‘Beyond the Gaze’ is the largest study to date of internet based sex work/adult entertainment and is being carried out by an experienced team of researchers at Leicester and Strathclyde Universities, who have many years experience of carrying out research with people working in adult services/sex industry including their customers. It is a legitimate and important UK wide study which is funded by the Economic and Social Research Council and is exploring the use of online and digital technologies in the sex industry. Go to our website to find out more about the research and the team who are carrying it out External Link/Members Only follow us on twitter: @BeyondtheGaze As part of this research we are seeking the views and experiences of customers through an online survey which should take no longer than 10-15 minutes. The survey is anonymous and no identifying information is requested. The survey does not collect any identifying information, it is completely anonymous, has permission from the University ethics committee and we work within strict ethical guidelines to protect the privacy and anonymity all people taking part in our research.

Please go to the survey at the following link; External Link/Members Only

The survey is open until 31st August 2016. We’d really value you input! Thanks for considering this and hopefully for taking part.

We really do appreciate that you we are relying on the good will of people who take part and are giving their time for free to help us!  Thanks those who do and those who consider it but decide not to.

If you would like more information about the survey or the wider project feel free to contact: Professor Teela Sanders on tlms1@leicester.ac.uk or message me Rosie Campbell via UK Escorting please. Both of us have done research with customers in the past and really appreciated their input, we think it is really important they are included in this research.

If you're an escort please spread the word about the research. So far lots of escorts have helped us out by taking part in interviews that we have carried out and later in the year there will be a survey for escorts and others advertising or working on line in the adult entertainment sectors. So look out for that!

[Oneatatime]

Anyone filled this in?

[CoolTiger]

Anyone filled this in?

Steady on!! she's only posted it this morning.... No doubt punters will fill in the survey.... one at a time!!! 

I'll grab me coat!

[James999]

Rosie, how much are you paying to people to complete your survey?

[Nagilum]

Rosie, how much are you paying to people to complete your survey?

More importantly, I wonder if Rosie would like some field experience.  Get close to the story/survey 

[Turtle Z]

I filled it in. I thought it asked some reasonable questions that may provide some valuable insight into poor perceptions on the alleged high levels of sex trafficking and punter behaviour.

[punther]

Rosie it would be great if you could knock out a review or 2 before asking for help 

[James999]

Rosie

Have you ever paid for sex?
Been paid for sex?
How old are you?
What's your sexual orientation?

[mh]

Rosie is clearly experienced, she has an Oral Bachelors Education certificate - that's what OBE stands for isn't it? 

I see SAAFE get their logo on the project. I don't think UKP want the attention...

[CoolTiger]

Rosie is clearly experienced, she has an Oral Bachelors Education certificate - that's what OBE stands for isn't it? 

I see SAAFE get their logo on the project. I don't think UKP want the attention...

she may have done O and A Levels, if old enough 

[cueball]

Rosie

Have you ever paid for sex?
Been paid for sex?
How old are you?
What's your sexual orientation?

That's a fair point.

Rosie wants to know all about us but we know bugger all about Rosie.

So rosie, you're doing the asking but you'll need to put into here before getting any kind of reaction from me.

[vw]

That's a fair point.

Rosie wants to know all about us but we know bugger all about Rosie.

So rosie, you're doing the asking but you'll need to put into here before getting any kind of reaction from me.

Always the same with busybodies nosey beyond belief but give nothing away.

I nominate naglium and cueball for a duo review in the east MIDLANDS   

[mh]

I see SAAFE get their logo on the project.

Does this blurb sound like SAAFE to anyone?

External Link/Members Only

SAAFE  (support and advice for escorts) was established, and is run, by and for sex workers.  It provides peer  information and advice on a range of topics including   safety, health, the law, working with a range of practical information for example about  ways of working, where to advertise, money etiquette, touring amongst others. The SAAFE forum has discussion threads on a number of topics about which sex workers can share experiences and support each other. SAAFE has a Warnings and Wasters board where sex workers can add warnings.  It has an area where sex work projects can post information about their services.

They've missed out their most common activities of denigrating their customers and working out how to avoid doing their chosen job.

[cueball]

I nominate naglium and cueball for a duo review in the east MIDLANDS   

Ok, she'll have be cheap though, we're not spending loads on a toftt

Oh, and she'll need take it up the wrong un  too

[RedKettle]

That's a fair point.

Rosie wants to know all about us but we know bugger all about Rosie.

So rosie, you're doing the asking but you'll need to put into here before getting any kind of reaction from me.

She gave the link to her website and that has a long section about her.

She is doing a serious piece of work, she has got Admin's permission and her post was reasonable and well written.  I do not see why James needed to be so awkward/rude to her and in general to have a go does not reflect well on us.

[RedKettle]

Have completed it - sensible questions.  Only took a few minutes.

[cueball]

She gave the link to her website and that has a long section about her.

She is doing a serious piece of work, she has got Admin's permission and her post was reasonable and well written.  I do not see why James needed to be so awkward/rude to her and in general to have a go does not reflect well on us.

I'd be less sceptical (maybe) if she engaged on here firstly, rather than one post then buggering off.

If she's that keen to know what we're thinking then put some effort into engaging with us.

A multiple choice questionnaire is meaningless to me and won't catch my attention. If she wants to know what I think then ask me, don't send me to a computer survey.

Yes, I know the boss has sanctioned her post but I'd still tread carefully.

Before she knows my thoughts, I want to know hers, she's the one that's opened the dialogue. What's her opinion of the paid sex industry?

[Nagilum]

Ok, she'll have be cheap though, we're not spending loads on a toftt

Oh, and she'll need take it up the wrong un  too

Who am I to disappoint!

[vw]

Who am I to disappoint!

Red kettle aka polly  is disappointed it seems,  please don't disappoint him more like cueball did

[RedKettle]

Red kettle aka polly  is disappointed it seems,  please don't disappoint him more like cueball did

Not disappointed just did not see the problem with her request and why the need to be rude to her.  Cueball answered which is fine - it was actually James that was rude but that is his default position.

[vw]

Not disappointed just did not see the problem with her request and why the need to be rude to her.  Cueball answered which is fine - it was actually James that was rude but that is his default position.

All is normal then   

[LanceVance]

Done

[Happylad]

Half an hour ago I filled in the questionnaire on UKE, so it only seems right that I shopuld fill it in on here also - but I`m putting in a load of opposite opinions and answers on this one, just so that Sophie gets both sides of the picture.

[daviemac]

Half an hour ago I filled in the questionnaire on UKE, so it only seems right that I shopuld fill it in on here also - but I`m putting in a load of opposite opinions and answers on this one, just so that Sophie gets both sides of the picture.

I haven't looked at it yet, but I would imagine it would ask for the participant's honest opinion, not a load of made up speculation. That's exactly what people are doing now and why the sex industry has such a bad name.

You can only give your side of things, you can't speak for others.   

[RosieBTG]

Hi All,

I've been doing interviews so not online today and have just got chance to now to get on UKPunting, thanks to all who have commented on the post and to those who've done the survey.   

We thought it was very important to get Admin permission we know people will have different views about academic research on the sex industry generally and the customer survey, including that it might be intrusive. So thanks for letting me post information about the survey and taking time to read our post whatever your  position. We leave it up to all to make up their own minds about the research and taking part, participation is completely voluntary.

For info about me and the wider research team go to the BTG website External Link/Members Only  Think couple of people have point to this already - thanks.  We have biogs on there with links to some of our research over the years so that would give you a feel for our work over the years.

Couple people have asked about payment for contributing to the survey I'm afraid we are not paying people as a token of thanks for this survey - we really are reliant on the good will of those who choose to help us out!! I will feed this point back to the Principal Researchers though.   With this research we wanted to include customers and that's via this survey and some interviews that Teela Sanders will be doing - for those who have completed the survey you will have seen reference to that at the end of the survey.

I am off on leave now until 8th August, sorry about that timing, I'll then get back on the forum and reply to any other points/queries that members have about the research.  If you have a query that can't wait till then you can email Prof Teela Sanders  tlms1@leicester.ac.uk who is leading on the customer research.

Thanks again Rosie

[vw]

I haven't looked at it yet, but I would imagine it would ask for the participant's honest opinion, not a load of made up speculation. That's exactly what people are doing now and why the sex industry has such a bad name.

You can only give your side of things, you can't speak for others.

I imagine they have ballot fraud options on the questionnaire to prevent manipulation, if not why not ?

I

[RosieBTG]

I filled it in. I thought it asked some reasonable questions that may provide some valuable insight into poor perceptions on the alleged high levels of sex trafficking and punter behaviour.

Thanks Turtle Z for helping us out much appreciated!

[RosieBTG]

Have completed it - sensible questions.  Only took a few minutes.

Thanks Red Kettle for contributing to the research and doing the survey, also for you other comment. We really want customers who want to take part to have opportunity to be part of the research and not left out. Rosie

[RosieBTG]

Done

Thanks Lance Vance we appreciate it! Rosie

[cueball]

Rosie

What's your opinion on the paid sex industry then rosie?

Before you get all research data, how do you see the lads and lasses that partake in this little pass time?

[Zeusthedoc]

Commenting so that I can come back later to fill it in....

RosieBTG is hardly likely to say that she thinks we're all degenerates and that WGs are either girls with daddy issues or trafficked.

I admire researchers that basically go into he lions den. I would expect that she and the team are also likely to be reading a X section of reviews to X reference responses on questionnaire and portrayal on here.

[mrhappypants]

The Professor leading this research is interviewed here

External Link/Members Only

I am going to complete the survey.

Dave

[Chuckman]

Filled in the questionnaire.

Since Teela Sanders is part of this then it's genuine since she has done a lot of work in this field. I studied some of her work as part of my social science module so it wouldn't be a problem for me being interviewed by her.

[Lucky Luke 70]

Filled in, it's quick and simple

[ico23]

I'm not sure that any researcher should have any pre-conceived ideas going in. Find out he actual facts then publish the results is what it's all about. The researchers view is irrelevant as they should just be collating the data. I'll fill it in.

[Lucky Luke 70]

I'm not sure that any researcher should have any pre-conceived ideas going in. Find out he actual facts then publish the results is what it's all about. The researchers view is irrelevant as they should just be collating the data. I'll fill it in.

IMO you refer to the 1st step of research work which is data mining and I agree it should not be pre-conceived. But the choice of questions and their formulation can (often) be biased, intentionally or not.  The 2nd phase is interprétation and this is where it can become funny ... Or not.

[Zeusthedoc]

IMO you refer to the 1st step of research work which is data mining and I agree it should not be pre-conceived. But the choice of questions and their formulation can (often) be biased, intentionally or not.  The 2nd phase is interprétation and this is where it can become funny ... Or not.

it really depends on the nature of the research, the research question, the methodological approach used, and the epistemological / ontological position of the researcher(s).

in a black / white world of fact & truth, the researchers' views and opinions are irrelevant. In a constructed world were there are more shades of grey then that twat and her book, then this is where the researchers should state clearly their views, opinions, biases, beliefs etc

[5th Musketeer]

Took the survey and it is not what I would call intrusive, given that everyone on here talks about the various subjects covered in the survey without reserve.  I was able to be honest in my answers, though I wonder how many others will be so, and how Rosie and her colleagues will be able to sort out the wheat from the chaff.

[char45]

Done, never thought I'd see a thread on UKP which refers to the OPs 'epistemological and ontological' position. Good work dopebeats

[mrhappypants]

I'm not sure that any researcher should have any pre-conceived ideas going in. Find out he actual facts then publish the results is what it's all about. The researchers view is irrelevant as they should just be collating the data. I'll fill it in.

Classic theory is that you must have a hypothesis to test and falsify. There is no such thing as an impartial researcher. 

The main limitation of their design immediately obvious to me is that punters who use UKP are NOT typical of the population of punters in general - ie IT literacy certainly in the top half of the population, relatively dedicated to the pursuit. 

If this work moves us on from the frankly Victorian terms of the debate about paid sex that we seem confined to in this country (listen to the blatant  moralistic bias in the interview on the R4 piece I linked to above - that interviewer should be fired) it has my support.

Dave

[mrbobbit]

ENough folks here complain about nonsense written in the Grauniad and elsewhere about WGs as victims. I fail to see why some serious research from a good source should cause any problems. I have looked at some of Sanders' other work and she seems serious. (Also this punter did his PhD at Leicester).

[vw]

Classic theory is that you must have a hypothesis to test and falsify. There is no such thing as an impartial researcher. 

+1

Always about the hypothesis, without that I'm out !

[TheNewSeeker]

Fully support this. I think this research group is doing interesting stuff and challenging the notion that all sex workers are trafficked, pimped or both. This is essential to defeat ongoing moves towards criminalisation (at both sides of the transaction), which could rear its head anytime, particularly as we now have the most right-wing government for ages and social liberalism is in retreat in post-Brexit Britain.

[shagbambi]

The questionnaire was sensible.

[TheNewSeeker]

+1

Always about the hypothesis, without that I'm out !

Not if an inductive research approach is employed. New theory (ideas) may emerge from the data.

[socks]

I unexpectedly enjoyed reflecting on my sexual services purchasing behaviour while doing that survey. So much so that I even left an email address in case they want to tap my brains further!!

[mrhappypants]

So much so that I even left an email address in case they want to tap my brains further!!

I am a bit dubious about this to be honest.  Please report back on the tone of the interview if you do go for it.  I would consider it if the tone was not moralistic/judgemental.

[socks]

I am a bit dubious about this to be honest.  Please report back on the tone of the interview if you do go for it.  I would consider it if the tone was not moralistic/judgemental.

will do.

Just reflecting on my answers and realised that on a question which asked what sort of services you buy, I didn't put filming in the others option - it was probably the only major thing I purchase that wasn't in the pre-existing choices

[Swansea lad]

I answered it. Its quite basic though. Not one question about why you punt though.

[RedKettle]

I realised I lied to myself when answering the number of times I use UKP each day - I massively under counted.  Probably a sign of addiction to this site!!!!