just a few thoughts

[rosebristol60]

so just a few thoughts about nothing in particular....i"m enduring the lockdown with my partner who has no interest in sex, so my fleshlight is working overtime at the moment, although i"m not a prolific punter in fact its only 2 times up to now, i cant wait for the lockdown to end so i can go out and meet someone, i imagine the girls will be in big demand when this is all over. i"m sure some of you look at the saafe forums, just to see what the girls are thinking and to get opinions from their side of things, one that caught my attention was a thread on meeting unattractive men, now i know that i am unattractive, i"ve had the piss taken out of me all my life over my looks, when i was younger it really hurt and left psychological scars, but now i"m 60 it doesnt seem to matter so much, i am what i am, but when i look at the adultwork profiles i still look at the plain looking girls rather than the good looking ones because i feel the good lookers will want to get rid of me as soon as possible.  when i decided about 2 years ago that i would look at escorts, i wanted to meet all kinds of women, fat, skinny, black,japanese, old and young, something in my ordinary life that i would never get a chance to do, so hopefully after the lockdown i can get on with it and leave a few more reviews, so thats it, everybody stay safe...ttfn.

[diomhair72]

You can’t be that unattractive, you got married

[CanOfRedBull]

I’m in a similar boat as yourself.  I am married ( with kids ) and a wife that lost interest in sex a long time ago.   Because of lockdown I never get any time alone so there really isn’t time to allow for a decent wank  The usual going to the gym / playing golf for a punt seems along time away!

I really think after UK lockdown the WG’s will be pleased with punters across their palms with silver.  Punters being =  Fat/Thin/Tall/Short/Old/etc - really wouldn’t worry about your looks.  As long as you are clean, friendly and you have a handful of CASH you’ll be OK.

[lewisjones23]

so just a few thoughts about nothing in particular....i"m enduring the lockdown with my partner who has no interest in sex, so my fleshlight is working overtime at the moment, although i"m not a prolific punter in fact its only 2 times up to now, i cant wait for the lockdown to end so i can go out and meet someone, i imagine the girls will be in big demand when this is all over. i"m sure some of you look at the saafe forums, just to see what the girls are thinking and to get opinions from their side of things, one that caught my attention was a thread on meeting unattractive men, now i know that i am unattractive, i"ve had the piss taken out of me all my life over my looks, when i was younger it really hurt and left psychological scars, but now i"m 60 it doesnt seem to matter so much, i am what i am, but when i look at the adultwork profiles i still look at the plain looking girls rather than the good looking ones because i feel the good lookers will want to get rid of me as soon as possible.  when i decided about 2 years ago that i would look at escorts, i wanted to meet all kinds of women, fat, skinny, black,japanese, old and young, something in my ordinary life that i would never get a chance to do, so hopefully after the lockdown i can get on with it and leave a few more reviews, so thats it, everybody stay safe...ttfn.

They care most about money - turn up with a fistful of £20 notes and you’ll soon be balls deep

[Payyourwaymate]

They care most about money - turn up with a fistful of £20 notes and you’ll soon be balls deep

+1

[Home Alone]

You'll be going to pay for a shag; not start another relationship.

And what do you need when you go to pay for most things? Cash!

As the meerkats say, "Seemples!!"

[Billy no mates]

I have generally found women treat 'attractiveness' different to how us men do. Where as we are very much driven by the 'look' or what we can 'see', i have found thats different for females.

I am sure they appreciate a good looking dude, the generally tend to look a bit deeper (this is all in my experience, not some sort of 'bible of females')

To the OP, if you are paying just choose who you want, be clean, polite, on time, and have the right cash and you should be golden.

[Beamer]

They care most about money - turn up with a fistful of £20 notes and you’ll soon be balls deep

This is when "cash" really is king  !

[Vice Admiral]

The majority of punters, even good-looking ones, are men with whom the escort would never dream of having sex unless she was paid to do so.

A while back I had a conversation around this subject with two very attractive escorts I got to know well.  Rather to my surprise, they said it didn't really bother them if the punter was (some or all of) old, fat, ugly or bald – rather than young, slim, handsome and with a decent head of hair.

They had no particular preferences.  It was just a job.

Interestingly, the one thing they said they didn't like was weird-looking or peculiarly-shaped penises.  And, of course, bad smells.

I remember another girl once saying to me that she simply went onto auto-pilot while she was doing what she had to do.  She still appeared to "engage" fully with the client, but most of the time her mind was miles away.

[Beamer]

The majority of punters, even good-looking ones, are men with whom the escort would never dream of having sex unless she was paid to do so.

A while back I had a conversation around this subject with two very attractive escorts I got to know well.  Rather to my surprise, they said it didn't really bother them if the punter was (some or all of) old, fat, ugly or bald – rather than young, slim, handsome and with a decent head of hair.

They had no particular preferences.  It was just a job.

Interestingly, the one thing they said they didn't like was weird-looking or peculiarly-shaped penises.  And, of course, bad smells.

I remember another girl once saying to me that she simply went onto auto-pilot while she was doing what she had to do.  She still appeared to "engage" fully with the client, but most of the time her mind was miles away.

That's my experience of independents  and why I use fbsm shops. The fbsm girls seem to engage more with me as the punter.  But who knows??

[Handel2020]

I have generally found women treat 'attractiveness' different to how us men do. Where as we are very much driven by the 'look' or what we can 'see', i have found thats different for females.

I am sure they appreciate a good looking dude, the generally tend to look a bit deeper (this is all in my experience, not some sort of 'bible of females')

To the OP, if you are paying just choose who you want, be clean, polite, on time, and have the right cash and you should be golden.

I worry about where this thread could go, but to give my two cents I think women vary. There are those who are so focused on meeting a successful guy with a career that looks are lower down the list. Then there are women who by their own admission are focused on looks, want someone they can wake up to every morning etc. which is fair enough.

The issue which the OP is getting at is probably about the ones who will be nasty and dismissive based on how you look which is unnecessary. I have experienced a lot of this in bars / clubs and even normal social events. It becomes a problem when you start to generalise based on those experiences, but it is very difficult to get around this and be thick skinned when you have low self-esteem in the first place. I've had one or two escorts who acted nasty and I believe this was down to looks. They happened to be between 20 - 24 and hot and I was between 17 and 23 when I seen those escorts. When I was 17 one of them even pushed me in the back when I was leaving to get me out the door faster, and she had also been nasty during the punt. That's the same demographic where this behaviour was most common in nightclubs. It happens with escorts in my view but it is rare.

[Thephoenix]

Used to worry me a bit when young and starting out with escorts etc.

Now I'm 79, I have long since realised that in the majority of cases, SP's aren't too bothered about your looks, so long as you're clean and polite. That's why they will often say they prefer older clients. It's their profession and if they're good at their job they should make you feel welcome. Neither of you are looking to start a romance.

Having said that,  I know that when you're starting out there can be mental and physical obstacles to overcome.

Thankfully I've never had any real problems.
I know I'm handsome, fit, great body and oozing sex appeal.....I just have to try and overcome my terrible inferiority complex and low self esteem.

[king tarzan]

cash talks... and enjoy what you purchase

[mgkerx]

Used to worry me a bit when young and starting out with escorts etc.

Now I'm 79, I have long since realised that in the majority of cases, SP's aren't too bothered about your looks, so long as you're clean and polite. That's why they will often say they prefer older clients. It's their profession and if they're good at their job they should make you feel welcome. Neither of you are looking to start a romance.

Having said that,  I know that when you're starting out there can be mental and physical obstacles to overcome.

Thankfully I've never had any real problems.
I know I'm handsome, fit, great body and oozing sex appeal.....I just have to try and overcome my terrible inferiority complex and low self esteem.

Hats off my friend at 79 still punting and enjoying yourself
I do think most WG would prefer a session with you than a young stud trying to re-enact some scene out of a Rocco's movie
Stay safe.

[Thephoenix]

Hats off my friend at 79 still punting and enjoying yourself
I do think most WG would prefer a session with you than a young stud trying to re-enact some scene out of a Rocco's movie
Stay safe.

I'm just hoping 'Thephoenix' will rise again after all this palava.

[mgkerx]

I'm just hoping 'Thephoenix' will rise again after all this palava.

Well if you give The Phoenix the blue tablet of fire you will be fine.

[mr.bluesky]

You can’t be that unattractive, you got married

She might have married him for his money.    it's surprising how  a lot of money makes men attractive. (I'm sure in this case that's not so  ) or she might have married him because he's hung like horse !.

[mr.bluesky]

I remember another girl once saying to me that she simply went onto auto-pilot while she was doing what she had to do.  She still appeared to "engage" fully with the client, but most of the time her mind was miles away.

Probably thinking about the next pair of shoes or handbag she was going to buy 

[rosebristol60]

She might have married him for his money.    it's surprising how  a lot of money makes men attractive. (I'm sure in this case that's not so  ) or she might have married him because he's hung like horse !.

i can assure you she never married me because of my looks or my money, she just must have been desperate.

[tynetunnel]

She might have married him for his money.    it's surprising how  a lot of money makes men attractive. (I'm sure in this case that's not so  ) or she might have married him because he's hung like horse !.

Mrs Merton: “so Debbie McGee, what was it that first attracted you to the millionaire Paul Daniels?”   

[winkywanky]

One of the absolute comedy classics of all time  .

She was taken way too soon.

[Hobbit]

I know how the OP feels. I'm also waiting for this lockdown to end or at least ease off. One of my main reasons also for seeing WG's is because I'm not very physically attractive either. Without escorts, it would be a very depressing world for me. Let's hope this lockdown ends very quickly.

[tynetunnel]

One of the absolute comedy classics of all time  .

She was taken way too soon.

I didn’t know Debbie McGee was dead... 

[willie loman]

As a general rule, the female in any partnership is more blessed physically, women tend to look for a man who is a reliable provider, and rightly so, no girl playing with barbie dolls said to herself, I want to grow up and live with an unemployed man in a council house with no furniture. It took me a while,  but ive noticed since I became a bit more affluent, that woman are a bit more interested. As for hookers, they don't want weird cocks, poor hygiene, sexual incompetents,or sex gods, they want someone who is in for a short period, and not an axe murderer.

[James]

I know how the OP feels. I'm also waiting for this lockdown to end or at least ease off. One of my main reasons also for seeing WG's is because I'm not very physically attractive either. Without escorts, it would be a very depressing world for me. Let's hope this lockdown ends very quickly.

Same here, a woman can get away with being unattractive as a man if desperate will shag her. Us men its so hard, punting was my way of shagging some girls out of my league and feeling good. without punting being unattractive makes it hard to get a lady so you would have no sex life.

Im too waiting for this to end, ovs theres risk. but even meeting/dating a girl will carry risk. Social lifes cannot be put on hold. we cant stop dating/etc

[jeanphillipe]

Used to worry me a bit when young and starting out with escorts etc.

Now I'm 79, I have long since realised that in the majority of cases, SP's aren't too bothered about your looks, so long as you're clean and polite. That's why they will often say they prefer older clients. It's their profession and if they're good at their job they should make you feel welcome. Neither of you are looking to start a romance.

Having said that,  I know that when you're starting out there can be mental and physical obstacles to overcome.

Thankfully I've never had any real problems.
I know I'm handsome, fit,  :hi:great body and oozing sex appeal.....I just have to try and overcome my terrible inferiority complex and low self esteem.

That might be a record for this website. 79 

[RandomGuy99]

I'm as ugly as fuck and very shy and haven't got married. I couldn't face the rejection, so I never really did much chasing of women.  I now pay me money and fortunately the SPs put up with me for an hour or two.  It's much less complicated that way.

[Thephoenix]

That might be a record for this website. 79 

I don't know, I'm sure there's others about the same age and older.

To be honest, I don't think I look my age, but in reality that's probably just wishful thinking.

I always get a bit of a surprise when people offer their seats on buses.

Occasionally, when walking in to a massage parlour, I might get a look from one of the younger girls that I interpret as " fuck me!... Look at this old fogey! ".....but who cares. I pay for a service, if it's no good I just don't go back there.
Thankfully, I've had no refusals yet.

[pbrown355]

Interesting thread. It is always good to remember that it's a business transaction. Your role is to bring the money and be clean and polite. That's about it.
I was told by a WG that she liked the older punter rather than the younger ones because older guys don't try to re-enact porn movies and swing from the chandeliers. In my case lucky just to maintain an erection for most of 30mins!

[hornyguylondon]

. As for hookers, they don't want weird cocks, poor hygiene, sexual incompetents,or sex gods, they want someone who is in for a short period, and not an axe murderer.

Women are so picky now - here's Johnny !

[ulstersubbie]

It is always good to remember that it's a business transaction

The truth and always will be.

[Home Alone]

As a general rule, the female in any partnership is more blessed physically, women tend to look for a man who is a reliable provider, and rightly so, no girl playing with barbie dolls said to herself, I want to grow up and live with an unemployed man in a council house with no furniture. It took me a while,  but ive noticed since I became a bit more affluent, that woman are a bit more interested. As for hookers, they don't want weird cocks, poor hygiene, sexual incompetents,or sex gods, they want someone who is in for a short period, and not an axe murderer.

I agree totally with your analysis here, willie. I've never 'been an oil painting'. I was born with a physical disability and throughout my teens/twenties never had a steady gf. I never thought I'd be able to 'pull'. I didn't meet the OH till I was 36; and it's only looking back that I can see that what she was attracted to was not my physical appearance but the - mainly financial - stability she saw me offering.

Eventually she found someone she thought was a better prospect, pissed off with him and a couple of years later, I started punting. 'Going for a shag, not a relationship' - my mantra through most of the time I've been punting - gave me more self-confidence with the female of the species and, at 74, I've never been more at ease in their company; civvy and SP alike.

Fwiw, I hope the OP's taken on board what quite a lot of us have said on here and I hope that when punting is once more 'safe', he'll have the confidence to see - and enjoy - some of the less plain SPs.

[Home Alone]

That might be a record for this website. 79 

Reading between the lines of what fellow-'silver punters' have posted, I think Happylad is the current record-holder, if you know what I mean.

He'll no doubt correct me if I'm wrong, but, from what he's written on other threads, I think he was still punting until his - comparatively recent - mid-80s.

Respect!

[JonasG]

That person on SAAFE is an exception to the rule I think.

Yeah obviously most likely deep down if they meet a 65 yo fat bald guy they wouldn't be as enthused if it was I dunno a slim guy in his 30s but if they're professional they won't show their negativity to you and still give you a good service, unless your hygiene is shit! So don't worry about it.

That's all that matters.

[king tarzan]

so just a few thoughts about nothing in particular....i"m enduring the lockdown with my partner who has no interest in sex, so my fleshlight is working overtime at the moment, although i"m not a prolific punter in fact its only 2 times up to now, i cant wait for the lockdown to end so i can go out and meet someone, i imagine the girls will be in big demand when this is all over. i"m sure some of you look at the saafe forums, just to see what the girls are thinking and to get opinions from their side of things, one that caught my attention was a thread on meeting unattractive men, now i know that i am unattractive, i"ve had the piss taken out of me all my life over my looks, when i was younger it really hurt and left psychological scars, but now i"m 60 it doesnt seem to matter so much, i am what i am, but when i look at the adultwork profiles i still look at the plain looking girls rather than the good looking ones because i feel the good lookers will want to get rid of me as soon as possible.  when i decided about 2 years ago that i would look at escorts, i wanted to meet all kinds of women, fat, skinny, black,japanese, old and young, something in my ordinary life that i would never get a chance to do, so hopefully after the lockdown i can get on with it and leave a few more reviews, so thats it, everybody stay safe...ttfn.

Attractive or unattractive money is the attraction.. a fistful of £ soon changes that..

[rosebristol60]

thanks everyone, i appreciate all your thoughts and advice, my sex life has always been shit, because of all the piss taking about my looks when i was in my teens, i never learned to talk to women, when i walked in to pubs and i saw a group of women giggling i always thought they were laughing at me, so the consequence was i never lost my virginity until i was 30, and that was when i started answering lonely hearts ads in the local paper ( pre internet days ). so just to try and explain how crap my sex life is, my ex girlfriend invited me back to her flat and eventually asked me to stay the night, i thought at last my luck has changed, but she said i could only sleep in the same bed as her if i kept my clothes on, as it was the best offer i had all year i took it. the girl i"m with now and its been 20 years went off sex about 10 years ago, in fact the thought of it repulses her, i was faithful for the first 9 of those baron years, but eventually i cracked, and that led me on to adultwork and punting. your all right when you say a good sex worker shouldnt really care about looks, after all she is doing a job and only after your money, thats something i need to come to terms with before i can start enjoying it properly.

[Handel2020]

I agree totally with your analysis here, willie. I've never 'been an oil painting'. I was born with a physical disability and throughout my teens/twenties never had a steady gf. I never thought I'd be able to 'pull'. I didn't meet the OH till I was 36; and it's only looking back that I can see that what she was attracted to was not my physical appearance but the - mainly financial - stability she saw me offering.

Eventually she found someone she thought was a better prospect, pissed off with him and a couple of years later,

Ouch. One of the things about lacking confidence and not being socialised as well as other people is that for the most part I don't get to see how cynical and indifferent people can actually be in everyday life. Stories like this are awful to me. I could have surmised there are many people like this out there, but it is the lack of empathy that I don't understand.

[Hobbit]

Attractive or unattractive money is the attraction.. a fistful of £ soon changes that..

True, but not all of us have large fists.

[Jindybandy]

Very good thread this OP; I wonder what people’s thoughts are on overall confidence outside of physical looks. I’ve always heard it said that women are attracted to confident men  - we’ll suffice to say I’ve always struggled with confidence around women to the point I used to turn into a gibbering wreck around any even reasonably attractive girl.
I think punting has helped massively on that front; I still don’t have the knowhow or charm to approach a girl, but at least now my mind doesn’t go blank and my mouth does function if I somehow do manage to say something.
I do look back at how I was when I first started punting (think it took me almost a year to pluck up the courage to book someone on AW!) and how my confidence has changed. Sure, there’s still that nervous excitement if meeting someone new you still get, but I get over that a lot quicker nowadays. One WG I’ve seen a number of times over last few years actually made a comment during one of our last meets late last year about how she’d noticed a change in me over our bookings.
I wonder what SPs think about confidence in a punter? Do they like bookings with the really nervous ones? Can punters be too overconfident in a booking?
More importantly, how do I translate my built up confidence I’ve gained with SPs into ‘civvy life’ confidence 

[Stealthmode]

Money talks. Use this to fulfil your fantasy and smash girls you would probably not be able to in your civilian life.

Not here to brag, cos we all have our hang ups, but I usually look for service and things im missing in my personal sex life when I punt, as getting good looking girls isnt an issue for me.

So go for what you like and falls within your budget. Good wgs wouldnt let you know if she wasnt into you anyway.

Just be clean and well presented

[Home Alone]

Ouch. One of the things about lacking confidence and not being socialised as well as other people is that for the most part I don't get to see how cynical and indifferent people can actually be in everyday life. Stories like this are awful to me. I could have surmised there are many people like this out there, but it is the lack of empathy that I don't understand.

Ah, but in my case, Handel; there's a happy ending in that, once I began getting up close and personal with SPs, the empathetic ones - I was a late 50s/early 60s punter who felt most comfortable with 40something Milfs - helped me improve my sexual technique. I developed - possibly 40 years later than my schoolmates; but hey, better late than never! - the confidence they'd had.

My pals these days - quite a few of whom have known me since schooldays - know that, within a couple of years of the OH pissing off, I became much more confident with, and around, women. I had some counselling after about 4 or 5 years on my own and I've told them that it was probably the counselling that did it. It may have played a small part but I, personally, believe that a series of empathetic Regulars had much more to do with it.

[rosebristol60]

so with no sex at home and no sex away from home can anyone recommend a VR porn site, i"ve looked at all the usual ones like VR porn, badoink, vr bangers, naughty america and czech vr, but is there anything else anyone knows about, i would like a good allrounder so i can watch straight, gay, or trans, but i dont mind if its just straight videos as that is what i watch most.

[aronteo]

Main point has been made: it is a business transaction.

But I want to share my experience: I am lucky because my parents were really good looking (movie stars looks). I am decent looking, did some modelling work in my twenties and have been working out for 20 years (in my early 40s now). I am not going to go into the reasons why I punt (already mentioned that in another thread); let's just say I don't want to have a relationship and not in the position to have one night stands.

First of all, we cannot choose the way we look and it really pissed me off when people are made fun of because of the way they look (I hammer on this with my two young children). I train 5 times a week, and my diet is just mad: don't smoke/drink, eat sugar in any shape or form, nor pasta, white bread, processed food etc. Believe me, as a widower with two young children it's not easy  - but, other than an element of vanity (which is undeniably there), I really feel good physically and I am really healthy.

Long caveat to say this: I have been occasionally complimented by the odd SP on my looks, but I really think my looks didn't matter one bit when punting; I have had a very big share of shit punts, and even SPs telling me to let my body hair grow (I am completely trimmed), and to grow a stomach (not joking).

What Vice Admiral said is actually really true: vast majority of SPs just go on auto pilot when working, and looks don't matter in the least (there have been actually many studies pointing out how the vast majority of SPs suffer from dissociative disorders as a result).

So, to the OP; I wouldn't worry about looks, just go for what you like, and aim at the very good looking SPs if that is your cup of tea - it's a business transaction, that's all it is 

[Crackpot11]

One thing missing in this thread is that there are some women who escort who do so more as a hobby as they really enjoy sex. I agree cash is king but you would be surprised by the number of escorts on AW who also are on Fab Swingers for example. Now they may be looking for another form of financial support - paying for hotels and meals etc but many are just highly sexed, hot wives, nymphos, sluts - whatever you would call them and yes they like money but they also like sex. Personally I never go to parlours and only see women who work independently, often alongside another job, and many simply enjoy sex, maybe don’t have a regular partner and see being paid for it as a bonus.

[unclepokey]

so with no sex at home and no sex away from home can anyone recommend a VR porn site, i"ve looked at all the usual ones like VR porn, badoink, vr bangers, naughty america and czech vr, but is there anything else anyone knows about, i would like a good allrounder so i can watch straight, gay, or trans, but i dont mind if its just straight videos as that is what i watch most.

XNXX   covers a vast range of tastes.

Enjoy

[B4bcock]

Long caveat to say this: I have been occasionally complimented by the odd SP on my looks, but I really think my looks didn't matter one bit when punting; I have had a very big share of shit punts, and even SPs telling me to let my body hair grow (I am completely trimmed), and to grow a stomach (not joking).

It's not uncommon for women to view men who hone themselves facially and physically as being obsessive and they can find it hard to relax in their company.    They probably worry that their own imperfections will be scrutinised by them.    I've noticed in civvy street that the guys with the best girlfriends often have more in the way of confidence and charm, usually with a laid back manner, rather than possessing particularly good looks or body shape.

[threechilliman]

One thing missing in this thread is that there are some women who escort who do so more as a hobby as they really enjoy sex. I agree cash is king but you would be surprised by the number of escorts on AW who also are on Fab Swingers for example. Now they may be looking for another form of financial support - paying for hotels and meals etc but many are just highly sexed, hot wives, nymphos, sluts - whatever you would call them and yes they like money but they also like sex. Personally I never go to parlours and only see women who work independently, often alongside another job, and many simply enjoy sex, maybe don’t have a regular partner and see being paid for it as a bonus.

Pretty much my view. Some of the best I've seen have also enjoyed swinging - basically they just enjoy sex with random guys! I recall one who was a swinger and discovered AW to realise she could get paid for doing it. She was a filthy bird as well.

[scutty brown]

Attractive or unattractive money is the attraction.. a fistful of £ soon changes that..

How do you manage them? Fistloads of rupees don't go very far..........

[aronteo]

Pretty much my view. Some of the best I've seen have also enjoyed swinging - basically they just enjoy sex with random guys! I recall one who was a swinger and discovered AW to realise she could get paid for doing it. She was a filthy bird as well.

You have both been luckier than me: out of all the SPs I have met along the years, I can say that only one of them would fit in the category "I do this because I enjoy having sex with random guys". 

[Stealthmode]

One thing missing in this thread is that there are some women who escort who do so more as a hobby as they really enjoy sex. I agree cash is king but you would be surprised by the number of escorts on AW who also are on Fab Swingers for example. Now they may be looking for another form of financial support - paying for hotels and meals etc but many are just highly sexed, hot wives, nymphos, sluts - whatever you would call them and yes they like money but they also like sex. Personally I never go to parlours and only see women who work independently, often alongside another job, and many simply enjoy sex, maybe don’t have a regular partner and see being paid for it as a bonus.

Do you know the amount of hoops you need to jump thru to get thru to any girl/wg on FB. You're better of paying