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Offline lvtpunt

Recently at work someone mentioned sexwork in a lunchtime chat (not me). The usual drivel came out from all sides, "all prostitutes are pimped out slaves". "No woman would choose to do that work", "they have to be single mum cliches making ends meet" "I saw a drama tv about it" etc.  I stayed out of the conversation as I've no doubt I'd have said more than I should.

We all know there is the seedier side of escorting but honestly there are alot girls who do it eyes wide open, plenty have normie jobs and just like extra easy cash.

Ever heard that kind crap before and had to restrain yourself from commenting.

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Best thing to do is nod politely.

Offline PaintBrush

Many times,

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Have a rhy smile to myselff

Offline lvtpunt

Best thing to do is nod politely.

Exactly what I did :)

Funnily enough one of the girls there is faf and I was sorely tempted to suggest that she could make a small fortune, if she gave it a go.

Offline Payyourwaymate

You know whats funny, when I was younger I used to think the same thing (By younger I mean university days) until after researching and I went and saw for myself that it is not the case  :lol:.

But imagine if England became like Germany with FKKs and legalised red districts. Normal women would lose a lot of power over men playing love games. I mean, what rational man would pay for an expensive date, listen to drivel and still not have a certain chance at having sex and maybe even get used just for the meal, when you could legally skip all of that nonsense with a hottie and carry on with your day  :D Sure, of course people might say you should be going for the emotional connection but men are not biologically wired for that initially with early contact with females, as far as I have observed. If the guy genuinely likes the girl then that is fine as well.

Just best to smile and nod, it's like they are plugged in the matrix really to be honest; some people don't want out. Reality crushes self esteem lol.

Online Fuzzyduck

It does annoy me when people talk through ignorance, but I just have to bite my lip. It came up a while ago at work and a younger guy made some comment how about he thought it was quite common with students. He got roasted by the women there and had to back track pronto. One of the more vocal women seemed to get quite passionate about it and asked me what I thought (boy did I feel like the accused). I just told her I don't have to pay. Followed by lots of nodding, agreeing and lip biting.

Offline cueball

Best thing to do is nod politely.
This is the way, we've all heard the convo's....

Cohersed, pimped drug addicts that do it against their will out of desperation  :dash:

WE know that's just not the case at all but you've got to tread very carefully letting slip you've got far more knowledge than you should have.

So, I too just nod politely and answer with "Do they" " is it" and "yeah yeah"..... And discreetly smile to myself knowing they're so far off the mark they'd be gob smacked of they knew the real truth.

Trouble is, the majority think it's like the media driven drivel that sells papers.

Offline badsin

Don't get drawn into that type of conversation, easier not to get involved.
On a slightly different note, I work with a faf, gym bunny type, single mum. When she's been a bit a skint in the past, coming up to either Christmas or summer holidays, she's said she'd have to "go on the game" to get some cash. I keep quiet, cross my legs, and think about her deep throating me.....
Stunning lady, ridiculous she's single 👎

Offline Home Alone

Best thing to do is nod politely.

And, the worst - guilt by association - is to excuse yourself from the conversation on the grounds that you've something else to do before you go back to work.

The OP's situation would have been really awkward for me. I'm a rotten liar - I blush much too easily - and know I'd have been on the verge of 'outing' myself either by saying too much - how does he know that?? - or too little - my friends & former workmates know how verbose I am.

Offline Shearer1955

Don't get drawn into that type of conversation, easier not to get involved.
On a slightly different note, I work with a faf, gym bunny type, single mum. When she's been a bit a skint in the past, coming up to either Christmas or summer holidays, she's said she'd have to "go on the game" to get some cash. I keep quiet, cross my legs, and think about her deep throating me.....
Stunning lady, ridiculous she's single 👎

Sounds like an invitation...perhaps a private word or two  :wackogirl:

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It does annoy me when people talk through ignorance, but I just have to bite my lip. It came up a while ago at work and a younger guy made some comment how about he thought it was quite common with students. He got roasted by the women there and had to back track pronto. One of the more vocal women seemed to get quite passionate about it and asked me what I thought (boy did I feel like the accused). I just told her I don't have to pay. Followed by lots of nodding, agreeing and lip biting.
I think ignorance cuts both ways. We all like to believe what we want to believe.. Women especially are highly polarised regards attitudes to the oldest profession. No doubt out of envy that some women can extract cash from eager men so easily and quickly by giving men services they are personally using as some kind of hard to get carrot waved in front of plodding donkeys..
Some feisty women however, are not shy about defending any bloke who will, (like myself) make comments, usually in jest regards the joy of the transaction when he gets the feminazi atacks..

As a student, I was hauled up before the beak for punting and back in the day (80's) I was not especially proud of myself and all liarwyers were looking for extra business in helping me during any divorce proceedings that would follow.. Only my wife wasn't bothered where I hid my over active dick .. My mates were amused and most student females were throwing themselves at me for free and wanted me to know I didn't need to pay some street darlings 15 quid for pleasure prior and risking front page media shaming in the local rag.. I realised then, real people are realistic and accept the nature of us as animals who enjoy consensual sex etc. as we do..

Aye. One feminazi woman decided to try and convince me to see the usual stereotypes that the anti whoring brigade want everyone to see.. Exploited women, etc.. But a young lady jumped in and totally destroyed her in an angry response, defended HER personal right to do whatever SHE wanted with her own body.. Including accepting my offer for a good seeing to for tuppence  if she asked nicely..
I later had a good manly chat with the feminazi's German boyfriend.. He was, of course, a keen shagger of allsorts too haha! Just goes to show eh?

Women want it both ways.. Freedom and victim status are not comfy bed partners though..

Nothing is as pathetic to see as an ex whore who, once she has lost her looks and can't convince men to pay through the dick for her services, decides to go full on feminazi and shame all punters, with media and femistate support..

Basically, everything about the oldest profession is not far removed from everyday relationships. Whoring is just a more honest and straightforward form of dating without the bullshit, cowshit and coy behaviour..

All that is shitty and abusive about whoring is present in one way or another and likely the same and often worse in standard dating and relationshits..

Compared to many married women, whores are angels.. much more likely to please sir.. and cheaper to  deal with and get away from when one has finished.. :cool:

I couldn't care less what brainwashed ostriches think of prostitutes.. I find many see them as "victims" in some way.. I am of the mindset that in some way.. yes.. they are.. But I do think the common views of punters are more openly derogatory.. Yes, we are sad gits who can't get novelty sex with a choice of women so easily any other way.. But, we ain't all losers..  either horrible, disgusting, abusive.. blah blah.. (some of us are all three!) :hi:

the media can't win this campaign against punters. the fucking hypocrits openly profit from using sex as a lure in thier own products and advertisers.
« Last Edit: February 25, 2019, 01:48:32 pm by Wooderz »

Offline catweazle

I am reminded of a tv sketch from years back (either 'Not the 9 O'Clock News' or Smith and Jones) set in a City trading office. All the trading talk was stuff like "big swinging dick" and "just fuck him up the arse on the deal".

Griff Rhys Jones rather timidly and politely says to a female colleague that he finds her rather attractive, and could he perhaps take her out to dinner?
.......whereupon she accuses him of sexual harrassment in the workplace!

Offline m4rmite

Overheard this type of conversation many times and been asked my view.
Most times were before i started punting so i naively envisaged the streetwalker stereotype. Even though thinking this it was the same answer as i would/ do give now.

Respect to anyone who works in the sex industry,  be it from lap dancers/ strippers right up to escorts/courtesans or whatever they call themselves.
Only they have the right to judge themselves.

I normally follow up with most women are jealous because they wouldn't earn any money.
Jealously brings out the devil in people.

When it's programmes on tv discussing prostitution I've point blank said "i would" when the wife has said would you fuck a prostitute.
Again this was before i punted and after i started.

It normally results in a fuck a few nights later, then back to nothing until the next honesty convo.

Offline fed24

As a policy never show your true power level when it comes to Punting knowledge, nod, smile and agree!

Offline Itsnotshy

Only a witch would defend a witch. Hold your tongue and let the ignorant mob burn the poor sucker, and pray they don't come for you.

Wooderz

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Only a witch would defend a witch. Hold your tongue and let the ignorant mob burn the poor sucker, and pray they don't come for you.
Fuck em.. Its only words.. Unless you really need their approval.. never argue with your boss..  :lol:

Offline Itsnotshy

Fuck em.. Its only words.. Unless you really need their approval.. never argue with your boss..  :lol:
The few times the subject has come up I defend sex work from a libertarian viewpoint, bodily autonomy etc. Everyone knows I'm a bit of an anarchist anti-authoritarian, free speech wanker.
What right has the State to tell consenting adults who they can and cannot fuck in private, wasn't that what '1984' was all about, sexcrime?
But because of stigma bigots can get away with saying just about anything.
I suspect they secretly suspect me of 'witchcraft' but as you say 'fuck em'.
« Last Edit: February 26, 2019, 03:41:47 pm by Itsnotshy »

Wooderz

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The few times the subject has come up I defend sex work from a libertarian viewpoint, bodily autonomy etc. Everyone knows I'm a bit of an anarchist anti-authoritarian, free speech wanker.
What right has the State to tell consenting adults who they can and cannot fuck in private, wasn't that what '1984' was all about, sexcrime?
But because of stigma bigots can get away with saying just about anything.
I suspect they secretly suspect me of 'witchcraft' but as you say 'fuck em'.
:drinks: top man..

Offline fallentrees1321

Ive got a real mix of workmates , there is a bunch of guys I regularly work with who always laugh and joke about massage parlours and the likes so I can never work out if they do or dont . I know a small subset of them go to Amsterdam every year and I can imagine some of them probably do mess about in the RLD they certainly joke enough about it , some of them have wives and long term partners and kids so if they do punt its pretty dumb IMO to be so open about it with others  . There is one bloke I work with who always bangs on about the location of brothels when we are talking about different parts of Greater Manchester and I have it on good authority from other workmates that he has been known to frequent such places . Then I have another group who think its disgusting and bang on about the daily mail view of prostitution and how its all dirty unkempt women down on their luck entertaining weirdos .

I generally just put forward an "each to their own , i wouldn't do it but I dont have issue if others want to " liberal type argument whenever prostitution comes up in conversation . I find it interesting  that people assume that all punters are weirdos and have something wrong with them so cannot get a women through dating etc . When clearly evidence from here shows many punters are actually just un-hapilly married .

I do find the idea that all prostitutes are STD riddled and dirty quite interesting , especially given in my experience its women I have met on civvie street & tinder are much more likely to engage in risky sexual behaviour . For example last 2/3 months I have met with 4 girls off tinder and 3 of them actually tried to initiate bareback sex and had no intention of making me wear a condom , and when I was younger and used to pick girls up in bars and clubs it was rare to be asked to use a condom . Ive never had an escort try and initiate BB sex .