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Offline Clarence Boddicker

Interested on your thoughts, I've always had a no extras policy, a WG should want to provide a service for her likes, if shes doesnt she shouldn't advertise them, when I see a girl say how much she loves cock up her arse and then lists it as a £50 extra, well I just think it comes across as disingenuous and a conveyor belt operator.  I'd prefer it if they did the long hall math and raised overall fees to cover the difference.  Prorbably the only exception to this rule would be filming, but apart from that, if extras are advertised then I'm out.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2024, 12:07:34 pm by Clarence Boddicker »

Offline 8MillionDollarMan

Don't agree some punters don't want certain extras so why should they effectively pay more for services they don't want.I'm fine with extras as long as the base price reflect that,except from RO which is a right piss take.

Offline Clarence Boddicker

I understand what you're saying but just as a form of presentation, I'd prefer to see a slightly raised price and know that I can do whatever is on her likes, rather than treat her profile like a desert menu.  When a SP states no extras, I feel more drawn to that profile.


Offline scutty brown

So the girl should increase her prices to everyone just because (as examples) you alone want to be pissed on, crapped on, or enjoy bareback?

Offline Southernbloke

Don’t mind extras as long as they are advertised and they don’t suddenly appear in the booking. I have had this happen in the past and put my clothes back on and left

Offline hendrix

I never book a WG who charges extras. I don't particularly care about the price, but it has to be all inclusive.

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DFK/FK - Hate it, will avoid the WG.
OWO - Hate it, will avoid the WG.
RO - Hate it, will avoid the WG.
CIM - Wouldn't do CIM with that WG but wouldn't prevent me booking.
Anal - Would do Anal with that WG but wouldn't prevent me booking. However, I don't like seeing it for free as it feels like part of the base cost for that WG could be Anal, so free Anal listed is a slight negative for me (depends on overall price).
Watersports/Other kink stuff - Similar to Anal.

Parlours

If WGs get caught not charging extras required by the parlour they can get fired for undercutting their colleagues. This is why you shouldn't go shouting in your review about receiving something for free off a parlour WG. If they don't get fired, they are usually a lot more careful about free extras in future. Every time I see a punter do this in a review on here I think "you thick bastard".

Special mention for parlours, some WGs charge you extras by the half hour, so 30 minutes OWO is £10, 60 minutes they say OWO is £20. It is rare and I don't like it but do pay it. It doesn't happen that often but if you are not 100% sure that the parlour allows the WGs to only charge £10 for OWO in 60 minutes you should again be careful about reporting this in reviews.

DFK/FK - Hate it. Puts me off using the parlour. If it is a parlour requirement I will pay it if I do use the parlour.
OWO - Understand why it is an extra at parlours, I will pay for that extra.
RO - Hate it, will avoid the WG. Usually not a parlour requirement and is just a big sign to me the WG is shit.
CIM/Anal/Watersports/Kink stuff - Absolutely understand why it is an extra at parlours, don't usually partake and pay.
GFE - The ever mysterious GFE, usually asked for £20 when OWO is £10. I feel this has always been a 50/50 proposition at best. Sometimes it is a shit WG trying to up her cash with a first time clients because I bet she doesn't get many repeats. The other times it has been a really good WG who rolls extra passionate DFK, OWO, RO, COB into one and it works out reasonably priced overall for a good punt.

Offline mills_and_bhuna

I avoid anyone who charges extra for kissing, OWO, RO or any basic stuff like that.
Not into anal tbh but I have paid 20 extra on one occasion to try it out.
However I can see why they would charge extra given that it possibly takes prep time beforehand and the possibility of clean up afterwards.
Likewise CIM I can see why they might charge 10 or 20 at a push but I don't think I'd bother personally.
As long as they're clear up front.
If not I consider it a scam and it would be a straight negative.

Offline FiveKnuckles

Don't agree some punters don't want certain extras so why should they effectively pay more for services they don't want.I'm fine with extras as long as the base price reflect that,except from RO which is a right piss take.

You get my vote.

I don't partake in FK so wouldn't want the price jacked up.  It's the girls body so let them decide what they offer.

I do agree that guys paying £200+ with agencies should expect some minimum services like OWO, FK, RO.  Fetish, Anal, WS and other funky stuff, again depends on base price.

Offline jamiekinkxxx

I never book a WG who charges extras. I don't particularly care about the price, but it has to be all inclusive.

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Don't agree some punters don't want certain extras so why should they effectively pay more for services they don't want.I'm fine with extras as long as the base price reflect that

Agreed. 

This is why you shouldn't go shouting in your review about receiving something for free off a parlour WG. If they don't get fired, they are usually a lot more careful about free extras in future. Every time I see a punter do this in a review on here I think "you thick bastard".

Also agreed.  Not just for parlours either, every review boasting about freebies or getting things not on the list seems stupid to me, you can guarantee the next thing that happens a bunch of people expecting/demanding that off her and the next thing that happens after that is she doesn't do that again.

Offline MysteryManNo.7

I agree to an extent but it really depends on what the extras are that she's charging for.

The basics I expect from an escort which should be included in the price for me to even consider a booking are: some degree of kissing even if it's only LFK that's fine, RO, OWO and protected sex. however I don't have a problem if they charge for more specialised services including anal, filming, CIM.


Offline southcoastpunter

Escorts have the right to charge what they like and for whatever they want to charge for! The only thing I ask is that the pricing structure is clear and it is clear what if anything is extra on their profile!
« Last Edit: January 13, 2024, 03:34:09 pm by southcoastpunter »

Offline zxc

An all-inclusive policy from the escort means she is charging for all the services whether you use them or not.

If she has low rates it will not make a big difference. However, if she has high rates it could make the service unaffordable for many people.

Having extras is a way to offer a basic service that you can upgrade as you wish, therefore, they make the service suitable for more people.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2024, 03:49:44 pm by zxc »

Offline MCullen71

Agree with Clarence, Hendrix and others unless it's a service like filming which might have greater longevity beyond the meeting and therefore understandable the SP might want greater financial benefit to compensate them for that.  It's particularly off-putting to me when a profile harps on about how much of a Deepthroat/Anal queen/slut the SP is only to be greeted with a menu of extras, suggesting she really isn't quite so keen. 

Some of them can also be a bit bewildering - e.g. OWO separate from CIM so that to achieve the latter you have to pay for the former anyway. 

Also appreciate this is not universal but, in my head at least, someone with a menu of options is more likely to have a more ostensibly transactional approach with respect to service and timings, whereas the better all inclusive girls do not (or at least are better at hiding it).  And in some cases, the "cheaper" girls' price lists can soon add up to way more once you add the extras that you would routinely receive from girls with a higher headline hourly rate.

Of course it is up to the girls in what they are happy doing and want to charge, but it's a personal preference to me.     

Offline Clarence Boddicker

Agree with Clarence, Hendrix and others unless it's a service like filming which might have greater longevity beyond the meeting and therefore understandable the SP might want greater financial benefit to compensate them for that.  It's particularly off-putting to me when a profile harps on about how much of a Deepthroat/Anal queen/slut the SP is only to be greeted with a menu of extras, suggesting she really isn't quite so keen. 

Some of them can also be a bit bewildering - e.g. OWO separate from CIM so that to achieve the latter you have to pay for the former anyway. 

Also appreciate this is not universal but, in my head at least, someone with a menu of options is more likely to have a more ostensibly transactional approach with respect to service and timings, whereas the better all inclusive girls do not (or at least are better at hiding it).  And in some cases, the "cheaper" girls' price lists can soon add up to way more once you add the extras that you would routinely receive from girls with a higher headline hourly rate.

Of course it is up to the girls in what they are happy doing and want to charge, but it's a personal preference to me.   


Couldnt agree more

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I understand what you're saying but just as a form of presentation, I'd prefer to see a slightly raised price and know that I can do whatever is on her likes, rather than treat her profile like a desert menu.  When a SP states no extras, I feel more drawn to that profile.
Are you for real, after 7 years as a member I would have thought you would know that advocating price increases if frowned upon on here.

It's quite simple, if you don't want to pay for extras then don't book ones that charge them, but no matter what none of them should be increasing prices to suit you.

Why should others pay for something you want but they don't.   :unknown:

Failing that have a read of the 100's of threads about members moaning about what escorts charge, they state the price you pay or don't pay, whinging about it doesn't change anything.

Offline hairdownthere

Escorts have the right to charge what they like and for whatever they want to charge for! The only thing I ask is that the pricing structure is clear and it is clear what if anything is extra on their profile!

This!

Offline Jameson20

Escorts have the right to charge what they like and for whatever they want to charge for! The only thing I ask is that the pricing structure is clear and it is clear what if anything is extra on their profile!

100% agree with this. I don't really care about what services a WG includes and what she classes as an extra as long as any extra is made clear and obvious. My criteria are pretty simple. Max £200 p/h. Anything that pushes it over that, nah.

Offline ShadowProclamation

Half of AdultWork put A levels as one of their likes. However, when this is stated as an extra, it probably means they don't enjoy it. This acts as a filter, for the handful who are happy to provide this service.

Offline MCullen71

Are you for real, after 7 years as a member I would have thought you would know that advocating price increases....

I didn't read the OP's original point being that girls with extras should charge more (e.g. a price rise) and then do everything on their likes list.  I thought it was more a point about a principal that he would rather see an already more expensive all inc girl than a cheaper girl with a huge menu.  A point several of us have made is that it reflects a different (and preferable) attitude by the girls.  I don't think you're going to see wholesale or industry-wide changes to pricing structures based on his post. Although....Clarence for SP union rep? :D

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I didn't read the OP's original point being that girls with extras should charge more (e.g. a price rise) and then do everything on their likes list.  I thought it was more a point about a principal that he would rather see an already more expensive all inc girl than a cheaper girl with a huge menu.  A point several of us have made is that it reflects a different (and preferable) attitude by the girls.  I don't think you're going to see wholesale or industry-wide changes to pricing structures based on his post. Although....Clarence for SP union rep? :D
You must have a different understanding of words to me?

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I'd prefer it if they did the long hall math and raised overall fees to cover the difference.

I took that as him saying he would prefer them to put prices up, does 'raised' mean something diferent to 'up'?  :unknown: 

Offline Stevelondon

I’ll just have a go at this one Davie. Just so I get it right in my own head.



“The SP raised the price”

“The SP’s price went up”

Looks pretty similar to me. 😂


Offline yandex

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OWO - Hate it, will avoid the WG...........

.........CIM - Wouldn't do CIM with that WG but wouldn't prevent me booking.


I'm confused, aren't they mutually inclusive?

You must have a different understanding of words to me?

I'm with Davie on this one - I took it to mean charge an all inclusive price, whatever that means for the WG, and if that means charge more because you're willing to offer something more than 'vanilla' then so be it. Having said that, I do sympathise with the OP in regard to the adverts which suggest they love something but then want to charge more.

As usual, I imagine that the real world is somewhat more difficult than the fantasy world of advertising. If you say you love DFK and some sweaty, garlic breath, beardy twat with bad teeth shows up, I don't blame people for asking for a bit more cash up at the point of touching tongues.

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I'm confused, aren't they mutually inclusive?
WG asking extra for OWO - in the bin and I won't read far enough to learn about her CIM pricing.
WG including OWO free in the price but asking extra for CIM - no issue for me.

Offline Munter84

It's hard to explain exactly why, but all things being equal, I'd prefer to see a girl with an "all inclusive" Likes list at a slightly higher price than a girl with a low base rate but everything is extra. I think it's the suspicion that if the lady needs to be financially induced to do something (kissing, OWO, whatever), it's sure to be given up grudgingly.

Something like anal or WS requires time and effort to prepare for, so I understand why those are often extra. On the other end of the scale I think I would on principle reject a girl that tried to charge for RO.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2024, 11:40:24 pm by Munter84 »

Offline yandex

WG asking extra for OWO - in the bin and I won't read far enough to learn about her CIM pricing.
WG including OWO free in the price but asking extra for CIM - no issue for me.

Ahh, that makes sense - thanks

Online alabama1

WG asking extra for OWO - in the bin and I won't read far enough to learn about her CIM pricing.
WG including OWO free in the price but asking extra for CIM - no issue for me.
With you on this one  :drinks:

Offline Adoniron

WG asking extra for OWO - in the bin and I won't read far enough to learn about her CIM pricing.
WG including OWO free in the price but asking extra for CIM - no issue for me.

I'm with you. CIM is the only activity I will pay extra for.

Offline MCullen71

You must have a different understanding of words to me?

I took that as him saying he would prefer them to put prices up, does 'raised' mean something diferent to 'up'?  :unknown:

Or maybe just drew inferences rather than literal interpretation of every letter typed in casual haste on an internet message board. I didn't for instance think he was suggesting SPs do maths in a long hall either.  Although momentarily I did have images of scantily dressed escorts sitting down at the table in the Lord's Long Room trying to do differential.equations.




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Or maybe just drew inferences rather than literal interpretation of every letter typed in casual haste on an internet message board. I didn't for instance think he was suggesting SPs do maths in a long hall either.  Although momentarily I did have images of scantily dressed escorts sitting down at the table in the Lord's Long Room trying to do differential.equations.
He suggested SPs should put prices up and I am not the only one who takes what he wrote as what he meant.

I don't know why you are defending him when he has had every opportunity to come back to the thread and respond to the points raised but hasn't, do you advocate SPs putting prices up as well?   :unknown:

Offline Urban_G

For me it depends what the girl will include in her base price and if my punting budget will allow for the extras I desire, if so then it's all good.

I'm quite vanilla in the services I require so extras are limited but I do like to request them to wear nice lingerie or a sexy uniform and some will want to charge extra for that which is not something I'll pay for.

Offline MCullen71

He suggested SPs should put prices up and I am not the only one who takes what he wrote as what he meant.

I don't know why you are defending him when he has had every opportunity to come back to the thread and respond to the points raised but hasn't, do you advocate SPs putting prices up as well?   :unknown:

Who knows whether he had every opportunity or just a more active social life on a Saturday than me?  :unknown:

Ive not once mentioned putting up prices as something I supprt, so you do the long hall maths.

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Who knows whether he had every opportunity or just a more active social life on a Saturday than me?  :unknown:

Ive not once mentioned putting up prices as something I supprt, so you do the long hall maths.
I know when he has logged on to the site plus he is online now so therefore I know he has had every opportunity to respond.

You on the other hand are defending a member who advocates SPs increasing prices so just own it and forget about trying to be facetious.

Offline Clarence Boddicker

Are you for real, after 7 years as a member I would have thought you would know that advocating price increases if frowned upon on here.

It's quite simple, if you don't want to pay for extras then don't book ones that charge them, but no matter what none of them should be increasing prices to suit you.

Why should others pay for something you want but they don't.   :unknown:

Failing that have a read of the 100's of threads about members moaning about what escorts charge, they state the price you pay or don't pay, whinging about it doesn't change anything.


I'm not advocating a WG should put her prices up, if anything I think they should give it out for free and form an orderly queue outside by bedroom while waiting to be serviced, but I don't think thats about to happen.  I'm saying that seeing extras immediately puts me off, its a matter of presentation and how I personally read between those line, so for example I would consider based upon her profile this SP

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but I wouldnt go anywhere near this girl

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pretty simple really 

Offline Hobbit

I never book a WG who charges extras. I don't particularly care about the price, but it has to be all inclusive.

Agree. Girls that charge extras are implying that they don't enjoy that service but will provide it for extra. I don't want to have sex with anyone who comes across as they are not enjoying it!

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More bothered by the fact more and more basics are becoming extras. Paying £20 for closed mouth kissing is becoming more common. I’m seeing 69 as an extra as well as straight up DATY these days too. I agree that it’s up to the WG what she provides but somethings just make you wonder why they bother.

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I'm not advocating a WG should put her prices up, if anything I think they should give it out for free and form an orderly queue outside by bedroom while waiting to be serviced, but I don't think thats about to happen.  I'm saying that seeing extras immediately puts me off, its a matter of presentation and how I personally read between those line, so for example I would consider based upon her profile this SP

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but I wouldnt go anywhere near this girl

External Link/Members Only

pretty simple really
I can only go off what you wrote and you stated you would prefer them to put prices upi.   :unknown:

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I'd prefer it if they did the long hall math and raised overall fees to cover the difference.

I am not the only one on this thread to take what you said to be what you mean.

At the end of the day this is just yet another thread moaning about prices when in fact the actual simplest thing is to book escorts who are within your price range, be that all inclusive or with an acceptable level of extras.

There are punters with all different tastes on here and to suggest escorts who charge extras should raise their prices to include extras that not everyone wants just to suit you does not benefit punters in general.

Then we get to the basic point of escorts are free to charge whatever they want in whatever way they want for whatever service they provide just as punters are free to book the ones that suit the services they are seeking at a price that suits them.

Offline Clarence Boddicker

Sorry Dave, for my clunky English, I’m not advocating putting up prices, I’m saying I dislike the presentation of a WG charging extras, I find it off-putting. They’re free to do whatever the fuck they want, I’m sure we can all agree on that.

Offline CupidStunt

Girls that charge extras are implying that they don't enjoy that service but will provide it for extra. I don't want to have sex with anyone who comes across as they are not enjoying it!

Assuming the extra is not the provider simply pricing in the extra risk to them eg owo why assume they're not going "come across as enjoying it" any less than they're going to come across as enjoying being penetrated by you?

I like it when sp's indicate what they find risky or more hard-work than other services through pricing as it allows me, if it's something I don't care about, to save some cash or, if they become a regular, to have a better professional relationship.

Offline yesbby

I think ideally the agency girls should all lower their prices and then charge extra for basic services - that way they increase their income that isn't taxed by the manager and agency. The problem with that is its a game of risk where they have to see the cheapskates who won't pay the extra.

Offline MCullen71


You on the other hand are defending a member who advocates SPs increasing prices so just own it and forget about trying to be facetious.

Apologies Davie if that's how it came across.  I wasn't defending someone advocating price increases, because I didn't at any point think that's what he was trying to say.   I was sharing an alternative view-point that I didn't think he was advocating price increases, in spite of his words giving that impression (and I can understand why people did get that impression from his "raised overall fees" wording). 

I didn't read the OP's original point being that girls with extras should charge more (e.g. a price rise)...


I thought it would be helpful to give the alternative view so as not to have yet another thread bemoaning prices - as you said there are already 100s of those and he has clarified that was not his intent, just a bit confusingly worded, which maybe derailed his original point.
 

Offline hendrix

Agree. Girls that charge extras are implying that they don't enjoy that service but will provide it for extra. I don't want to have sex with anyone who comes across as they are not enjoying it!

I don't actually care about whether they're enjoying it or not, as long as it's all within agreed limits with ongoing consent. It's more that I don't know exactly what I might be in the mood for on the day, and I don't enjoy the whole "we didn't do anal, so can I have some money back etc" - I like WGs that are ready for anything at one price, and that's why the "regulars" model works well for me. If it ends up being a bj with me done in 5 minutes, so be it.

Offline Hobbit

I don't actually care about whether they're enjoying it or not, as long as it's all within agreed limits with ongoing consent. It's more that I don't know exactly what I might be in the mood for on the day, and I don't enjoy the whole "we didn't do anal, so can I have some money back etc" - I like WGs that are ready for anything at one price, and that's why the "regulars" model works well for me. If it ends up being a bj with me done in 5 minutes, so be it.

What I meant was that I also don't care if they enjoy it or not but what I do want is a happy hooker! So I'm happy for them to pretend to enjoy it or just be courteous, and submissive (or dominant if required) but with a smile and a happy nature. The last thing this world needs is grumpy or miserable hookers.

Offline akauya

I think ideally the agency girls should all lower their prices and then charge extra for basic services - that way they increase their income that isn't taxed by the manager and agency. The problem with that is its a game of risk where they have to see the cheapskates who won't pay the extra.

Not everybody who doesn't pay for extras is a cheapskate. E.g. even if DFK, CIM, RO is included I don't go for them. Unlike some other punters for whom those services are a must on every punt, they are not essential to me, never have been, never will be.

If they are extra I obviously wouldn't pay for them, not because I'm a cheapskate but because I don't want those services. As for OWO if it's included I'll have it. If it's not I won't. Covered BJ won't make the punt a negative because OWO is not essential to me - and it's definitely a no-no if I'm in a relationshit.

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Not everybody who doesn't pay for extras is a cheapskate. E.g. even if DFK, CIM, RO is included I don't go for them. Unlike some other punters for whom those services are a must on every punt, they are not essential to me, never have been, never will be.

If they are extra I obviously wouldn't pay for them, not because I'm a cheapskate but because I don't want those services. As for OWO if it's included I'll have it. If it's not I won't. Covered BJ won't make the punt a negative because OWO is not essential to me - and it's definitely a no-no if I'm in a relationshit.

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That's a new one for the Oxford English Dictionary  :lol:
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That's a new one for the Oxford English Dictionary  :lol:

The thing is they start as relationships and more often than not end up as relationshits  :D

Offline willie loman

in certain fields extras  is called upselling, it irritates me when this happens , in restaurants etc, in the punting world i have paid extra for anal twice, before deciding it wastnt for me, i dont pay for extras otherwise, rimming, cim, snowballing, anal play, dfk etc if the girl indulges fine, but she isnt getting a penny more.
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Offline yesbby

Not everybody who doesn't pay for extras is a cheapskate. E.g. even if DFK, CIM, RO is included I don't go for them. Unlike some other punters for whom those services are a must on every punt, they are not essential to me, never have been, never will be.

If they are extra I obviously wouldn't pay for them, not because I'm a cheapskate but because I don't want those services. As for OWO if it's included I'll have it. If it's not I won't. Covered BJ won't make the punt a negative because OWO is not essential to me - and it's definitely a no-no if I'm in a relationshit.

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wrong end of the stick

My point is that now a Brazilian has a £300 rate plus £30 for owo sometimes, more usually £50

She has to pay the manager say 50%

If she charged a rate of £250 0r even £200 with owo and FK taking it to £300 she would take home a higher percentage because extras are tips for girls who are managed. It would be a better system for the SP if it worked out that she was busier with a lower starting rate (and ended up with the £300 after extras).

For me, if they are adding owo onto a £300 rate I will tend to swerve. Either they are losing business by starting with OWC or they're doing just fine without me. Best of luck to them. The impression I get is that girls are very busy charging £400 plus on Diva and other agencies.

I don't consider myself a cheapskate either - its a turn of phrase

Offline flybynightpm

Absolutely hate extras, if I see a girl with a long shopping list of stuff I won't see them. Big ticket items like anal, WS, BSDM and cum for a TS maybe but OWO/OW, RO and kissing should be part of the basic service.

When I have paid for an extra, like kissing or anal, its been a half hearted affair and a waste of money, they didn't want to do it anyway.