Any discounts for the risk takers ?

[king tarzan]

She probably just means she's been doing it a long time.

maybe she loved the size of horse dicks and changed profession hoping to find them on men 

[Kev40ish]

There was a pathologist saying on the radio earlier that if you come into contact with 2 persons with CV then it will affect you "twice" as badly, if you come into contact with 3 persons, it will affect you "3 " times as badly.  Don't these girls and guys realise this - and they are helping to spread it for everybody else!

Probably for the reason above, young people are starting to die from CV?

What absolute horse shit.. the pathologist should be struck off, along with the people who believe everything they are told..

[king tarzan]

What absolute horse shit.. the pathologist should be struck off, along with the people who believe everything they are told..

 i agree.. a bit too much scaremongering ...

[winkywanky]

What absolute horse shit.. the pathologist should be struck off, along with the people who believe everything they are told..

Perhaps there's a little bit of misquoting going on?

I don't believe the Pathologist said it exactly like that.

But it is reckoned that the bigger your exposure to the virus, the more ill you are likely to become. And I think I'm right in saying this is both interms of how long you're with/close to an infected person, and also how many infected people you're exposed to.

[Xtro]

There was a pathologist saying on the radio earlier that if you come into contact with 2 persons with CV then it will affect you "twice" as badly, if you come into contact with 3 persons, it will affect you "3 " times as badly.  Don't these girls and guys realise this - and they are helping to spread it for everybody else!

Probably for the reason above, young people are starting to die from CV?

Link?? 

[king tarzan]

Perhaps there's a little bit of misquoting going on?

I don't believe the Pathologist said it exactly like that.

But it is reckoned that the bigger your exposure to the virus, the more ill you are likely to become. And I think I'm right in saying this is both interms of how long you're with/close to an infected person, and also how many infected people you're exposed to.

spot on i would say...

[hermanmunster]

Perhaps there's a little bit of misquoting going on?

I don't believe the Pathologist said it exactly like that.

But it is reckoned that the bigger your exposure to the virus, the more ill you are likely to become. And I think I'm right in saying this is both interms of how long you're with/close to an infected person, and also how many infected people you're exposed to.

I agree, I'm sure that's how it was intended.  You reworded it perfectly.

[JackSaint]

She probably just means she's been doing it a long time.

Ha!

[aronteo]

Perhaps there's a little bit of misquoting going on?

I don't believe the Pathologist said it exactly like that.

But it is reckoned that the bigger your exposure to the virus, the more ill you are likely to become. And I think I'm right in saying this is both interms of how long you're with/close to an infected person, and also how many infected people you're exposed to.

Yep, that is what they keep saying, and the reason why Doctors and nurses have died.

[winkywanky]

Indeed, they potentially get exposed to a lot of virus, from being in close proximity with them to seeing multiple patients.

[LLPunting]

What absolute horse shit.. the pathologist should be struck off, along with the people who believe everything they are told..

Please let it be that stupidity proves to be a prime pre-existing co-morbid condition.

[LLPunting]

Yep, that is what they keep saying, and the reason why Doctors and nurses have died.

There has been zero national reporting that previously healthy, uncompromised medical staff have died after complications from this virus.
Severity of infection will always be dependent on how much virus gets into and manifests in your body, there is nothing unique to this virus about that.
Concentration of harmful agents, if unmitigated, always determine degree of risk and impact e.g.  Workers on the Underground, keyboard users and RSI, spray-painters, health professionals, carers, ancilliaries, visitors and patients in any treatment of infection environment.

I wait to see what the autopsy says about the 21 yr old woman who is claimed to be the first healthy victim.

[winkywanky]

There has been zero national reporting that previously healthy, uncompromised medical staff have died after complications from this virus.
Severity of infection will always be dependent on how much virus gets into and manifests in your body, there is nothing unique to this virus about that.
Concentration of harmful agents, if unmitigated, always determine degree of risk and impact e.g.  Workers on the Underground, keyboard users and RSI, spray-painters, health professionals, carers, ancilliaries, visitors and patients in any treatment of infection environment.

I wait to see what the autopsy says about the 21 yr old woman who is claimed to be the first healthy victim.

Do you mean anywhere in the world, or in this country?

I have definitely seen reports of otherwise-healthy medical staff dying from Covid-19 elsewhere in the world.

[hornyguylondon]

I'm sure the service providers can claim the self employed package 

[finn5555]

I wait to see what the autopsy says about the 21 yr old woman who is claimed to be the first healthy victim.

My guess there was some underlying problem, sad times 

[LLPunting]

Do you mean anywhere in the world, or in this country?

I have definitely seen reports of otherwise-healthy medical staff dying from Covid-19 elsewhere in the world.

If it's happening in systems where sufficient medical treatment was provided for all presented symptoms then I look forward to the messaging across the world turning to "COVID-19 now killing indiscriminately and there's no known mitigation" as the bias towards fatalities amongst the compromised becomes zero.
Outlier cases surely need to be investigated thoroughly to understand if the virus is mutating or there are other conditions to add to the list of "at risk", but until researchers conclude an investigation (I hope that all governments are insisting on autopsy and sampling in such cases) I'll practice social distancing and otherwise just get on with things.

[Lou2019]

just did a quick search on aw
east of england has 88 working today 
london has 427 
southeast has 149 
stay inside and stay safe

wow! worrying high numbers

[winkywanky]

If it's happening in systems where sufficient medical treatment was provided for all presented symptoms then I look forward to the messaging across the world turning to "COVID-19 now killing indiscriminately and there's no known mitigation" as the bias towards fatalities amongst the compromised becomes zero.
Outlier cases surely need to be investigated thoroughly to understand if the virus is mutating or there are other conditions to add to the list of "at risk", but until researchers conclude an investigation (I hope that all governments are insisting on autopsy and sampling in such cases) I'll practice social distancing and otherwise just get on with things.

Yes, this has happened in Spain and/or Italy I believe.

A (relatively) few younger people with no underlying health issues are dying of the virus, regardless of how much sophisticated healthcare they receive.

In these cases I should imagine that does have something to do with them receiving a large exposure to the virus.

[LLPunting]

Yes, this has happened in Spain and/or Italy I believe.

A (relatively) few younger people with no underlying health issues are dying of the virus, regardless of how much sophisticated healthcare they receive.

In these cases I should imagine that does have something to do with them receiving a large exposure to the virus.

Will look into the reporting, given the reputation for hyperbole of these two societies...

[winkywanky]

I don't think they'd be lying hysterically over this? 

And it was reported on the BBC.

[Xtro]

Do you mean anywhere in the world, or in this country?

I have definitely seen reports of otherwise-healthy medical staff dying from Covid-19 elsewhere in the world.

Let us not forget Dr. Li Wenliang, the Chinese doctor who blew the whistle on this virus. Hmmmmm

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[winkywanky]

Yes, tragically fitting that he was the first high profile one.

34 yrs old, I hadn't realised he was that young.

[king tarzan]

Yes, tragically fitting that he was the first high profile one.

34 yrs old, I hadn't realised he was that young.

an honourable man..

[Xtro]

Didn't you notice my "Hmmmm".

I'm not too sure it was the virus that killed him. 

[winkywanky]

A retributional 'nudge' from the Chinese Secret Service did enter my mind if that's what you mean. Who knows? 

[oversexed]

There has been zero national reporting that previously healthy, uncompromised medical staff have died after complications from this virus.
Severity of infection will always be dependent on how much virus gets into and manifests in your body, there is nothing unique to this virus about that.
Concentration of harmful agents, if unmitigated, always determine degree of risk and impact e.g.  Workers on the Underground, keyboard users and RSI, spray-painters, health professionals, carers, ancilliaries, visitors and patients in any treatment of infection environment.

I wait to see what the autopsy says about the 21 yr old woman who is claimed to be the first healthy victim.

Jesus!, i'm not sure if you meant to convey this but reading this it seems like you are saying we should relax.

there is nothing unique about this virus

this is a report of the virus that caused the government to switch stances about tackling it.

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i'll recommend read it.

[LLPunting]

Jesus!, i'm not sure if you meant to convey this but reading this it seems like you are saying we should relax.

there is nothing unique about this virus

this is a report of the virus that caused the government to switch stances about tackling it.

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i'll recommend read it.

Try reading my statement again...  I am talking of one aspect.

Thanks for the link, the article itself veils itself with credibility by quoting apparently credible sources, the difficulty I have in agreeing completely with it is that it is the work of "ordinary citizens" with no specialisation in public health, infectious disease or epidemiology.  As with any Internet published piece dumped straight into the public realm without credible scrutiny you need to look for the caveats, and fortunately because it has been publicly published it can be challenged by specialists from the applicable fields and indeed other ordinary citizens with differing agenda.  Be sure to read the comments including those from: David Shuey Mar21, George Ortiz Mar 21, Daniel Sweeney Mar 20, Ejnar Hakonsen Mar 21, Aimee Linekar Mar 20, Brittain Sluder Mar 20, Dcheung Mar 20, Tobias Petrini Mar 20, Steve Miller Mar 21.  I only read the first hundred or so... will try to look at more later.

Try this one External Link/Members Only, admittedly 1 month old so there will be even more known and published by now.  I'll have a look for more later.

[elnukky]

There has been zero national reporting that previously healthy, uncompromised medical staff have died after complications from this virus.
Severity of infection will always be dependent on how much virus gets into and manifests in your body, there is nothing unique to this virus about that.
Concentration of harmful agents, if unmitigated, always determine degree of risk and impact e.g.  Workers on the Underground, keyboard users and RSI, spray-painters, health professionals, carers, ancilliaries, visitors and patients in any treatment of infection environment.

I wait to see what the autopsy says about the 21 yr old woman who is claimed to be the first healthy victim.

It looks like there will be no autopsies under the new legislation

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[aronteo]

There has been zero national reporting that previously healthy, uncompromised medical staff have died after complications from this virus.
Severity of infection will always be dependent on how much virus gets into and manifests in your body, there is nothing unique to this virus about that.
Concentration of harmful agents, if unmitigated, always determine degree of risk and impact e.g.  Workers on the Underground, keyboard users and RSI, spray-painters, health professionals, carers, ancilliaries, visitors and patients in any treatment of infection environment.

I wait to see what the autopsy says about the 21 yr old woman who is claimed to be the first healthy victim.

In Italy 41 doctors have died due to the repeated exposure to the virus - I can't possibly know how many of them had underlying conditions. As I already mentioned in another thread, a chap that I knew, 38 years old, perfectly healthy no smoker, not overweight etc. died the other day. Other two guys I know in their 30s (again perfectly healthy), survived only thanks to intensive care (pneumonia leading to sepsis).

Again, I do not know the kind of exposure they had to the virus. All I know is that we are talking about quite young and healthy chaps. I am not an MD, so I can't possibly say anything more than this.

[winkywanky]

In Italy 41 doctors have died due to the repeated exposure to the virus - I can't possibly know how many of them had underlying conditions. As I already mentioned in another thread, a chap that I knew, 38 years old, perfectly healthy no smoker, not overweight etc. died the other day. Other two guys I know in their 30s (again perfectly healthy), survived only thanks to intensive care (pneumonia leading to sepsis).

Again, I do not know the kind of exposure they had to the virus. All I know is that we are talking about quite young and healthy chaps. I am not an MD, so I can't possibly say anything more than this.

Truly awful for Italy  .

For some reason Germany seem to be getting off very lightly for deaths per infection? No-one seems to know why.

From what I remember Covid causes a specific type of pneumonia which frequently leads to sepsis, and therefore a high death rate in severe cases?

[aronteo]

Truly awful for Italy  .

For some reason Germany seem to be getting off very lightly for deaths per infection? No-one seems to know why.

From what I remember Covid causes a specific type of pneumonia which frequently leads to sepsis, and therefore a high death rate in severe cases?

That is what I know as well. Italy and Spain have been devastated by the virus, just destroyed. What you say about Germany is true and interesting. Also, no-one is saying this, but in Scandinavia, Sweden has not been heavily affected (thus far at least), whereas the situation is Norway is actually becoming pretty bad. Again, the factors mentioned about Italy and Spain having an ageing population and being 'expansive' in their social manners could be a reason, but all this is still strange.

Again, caveat emptor here: not an MD nor pretending to be one - just reporting what I know (I have friends and family in Italy, and friends in Sweden and Norway).

[winkywanky]

That is what I know as well. Italy and Spain have been devastated by the virus, just destroyed. What you say about Germany is true and interesting. Also, no-one is saying this, but in Scandinavia, Sweden has not been heavily affected (thus far at least), whereas the situation is Norway is actually becoming pretty bad. Again, the factors mentioned about Italy and Spain having an ageing population and being 'expansive' in their social manners could be a reason, but all this is still strange.

Again, caveat emptor here: not an MD nor pretending to be one - just reporting what I know (I have friends and family in Italy, and friends in Sweden and Norway).

I think the sad truth is that we'll know a lot more about the virus once the crisis is pretty well over.

That's assuming dear God, that it doesn't make some sly comeback after a 'first wave'. Stories about there actually being TWO viruses involved, not just one, are quite worrying.

[Xtro]

Truly awful for Italy  .

For some reason Germany seem to be getting off very lightly for deaths per infection? No-one seems to know why.

From what I remember Covid causes a specific type of pneumonia which frequently leads to sepsis, and therefore a high death rate in severe cases?

Maybe the answer is Sauerkraut. Very good source of immune-boosting probiotics.

[winkywanky]

A mouthful of Sauerkraut would be enough to deter any virus from entering your gob...infact many years a go I had a German gf, it had a similar effect on me  .

Luckily she did like a nice bit of Bratwurst though, and some Altbier  .

[Mr Sinister]

That is what I know as well. Italy and Spain have been devastated by the virus, just destroyed. What you say about Germany is true and interesting. Also, no-one is saying this, but in Scandinavia, Sweden has not been heavily affected (thus far at least), whereas the situation is Norway is actually becoming pretty bad. Again, the factors mentioned about Italy and Spain having an ageing population and being 'expansive' in their social manners could be a reason, but all this is still strange.

Again, caveat emptor here: not an MD nor pretending to be one - just reporting what I know (I have friends and family in Italy, and friends in Sweden and Norway).

Sweden is a weird one as everyone is carrying on as normal, even though they are distancing I was supposed to be in Sweden last week but cancelled I was looking forward to my casual hook up over there, would like to be there for the solstice this summer

[Xtro]

A mouthful of Sauerkraut would be enough to deter any virus from entering your gob...infact many years a go I had a German gf, it had a similar effect on me  .

Luckily she did like a nice bit of Bratwurst though, and some Altbier  .

Ha, I used to work in a factory making German sausages.... It was the wurst job ever.

[winkywanky]

FFS you're worse than me!   

[LLPunting]

In Italy 41 doctors have died due to the repeated exposure to the virus - I can't possibly know how many of them had underlying conditions. As I already mentioned in another thread, a chap that I knew, 38 years old, perfectly healthy no smoker, not overweight etc. died the other day. Other two guys I know in their 30s (again perfectly healthy), survived only thanks to intensive care (pneumonia leading to sepsis).

Again, I do not know the kind of exposure they had to the virus. All I know is that we are talking about quite young and healthy chaps. I am not an MD, so I can't possibly say anything more than this.

Thanks, so sorry this has struck so close.  There will no doubt be edge cases, and hopefully this will prove to be such a case, so we wait with baited breath for the scientists to make their investigations.  In the meantime social distancing is the one very effective means we have of minimising the risk to ourselves and others.  I haven't yet taken to "sterilising" all goods and objects at the household boundary but I know of others who already are.

Some very dark decisions approaching for the health providers...

The hysteria level about to go through the roof as it really starts to hit home on the "children" on the Global stage, the Yanks are about to wake up.  Let's see if the home of capitalism will suddenly discover it's socialist ethical centre.

Hayfever kicking in rather heavily today so even less inclination to go out for the groceries, apart from the excessively cautious Waitrose queuing and admissions regime.  Sainsbury's was twice as fast and social distancing still observed, young staff seemed a little too close to each other but I wasn't breathing anywhere near the scuzzy tykes.

New girls still posting adverts, I'm happily working through all the new category of amateur Jap porn I've found, need to pace myself to avoid spraining something and then needing a "physio"

[bobby1973]

FFS you're worse than me!   

no way mr winkywanky
you are the king of puns 

[wombat42]

Just to tell you guys I started a thread on this very subject about 9 days ago on the UK Punting general message board. But not only did my thread get deleted by Admin, I got a 7 day ban slapped on me. I am completely lost about what the problem is. There is a distinction betwen discussing "you know what" in the context of punting and generally. There is now a thread discusing it generally on the Off Topic message board. But Admin are very cagy about allowing discussion in the context of punting when it is an obvious subject for discussion. I think you are getting away with it here by not mentioning "that word" in the thread title. Personally I am avoiding punting altogether in current circumstances.

[Fredbone]

Supply is increasing over 50 new profile yesterday 30th March, so in a market economy if supply increases and demand falls - price must change, especially if risk increases.

[LLPunting]

Supply is increasing over 50 new profile yesterday 30th March, so in a market economy if supply increases and demand falls - price must change, especially if risk increases.

How many desperate SPs make for good ones?
Try posting up the promising ones in the TOFTT  thread.
I look forward (c.6 months) to the number of TOFTT reviews increasing to match any influx of new talent.

[king tarzan]

Supply is increasing over 50 new profile yesterday 30th March, so in a market economy if supply increases and demand falls - price must change, especially if risk increases.

why take the risk and end up in hospital on a ventilator.. i know i am sad prick but I'm not that sad and crazy  that I'm going to pay someone for help in assisting me to the funeral parlour... no fucken thanks...


it's like watching the old conan the barbarian film.. in the cave Conan is fucking the hottie and then she suddenly starts to turn into a serpent.. obviously he isn't  stupid enough to carry on!! he just threw her in to the fire!!!

[bonapati]

why take the risk and end up in hospital on a ventilator.. i know i am sad prick but I'm not that sad and crazy  that I'm going to pay someone for help in assisting me to the funeral parlour... no fucken thanks...


it's like watching the old conan the barbarian film.. in the cave Conan is fucking the hottie and then she suddenly starts to turn into a serpent.. obviously he isn't  stupid enough to carry on!! he just threw her in to the fire!!!

😂😂😂 That’s the most serious (without emojis) paragraph I’ve heard from you in awhile. 😂😂😂

KT, hope you stocked up on bog roll 😂

I’ve been busy travelling around Moscow (on Google Maps) and knitting at the same time.

[king tarzan]

😂😂😂 That’s the most serious (without emojis) paragraph I’ve heard from you in awhile. 😂😂😂

KT, hope you stocked up on bog roll 😂

I’ve been busy travelling around Moscow (on Google Maps) and knitting at the same time.

I am stocked up on everything WITHOUT panic buying.. using common sense.... maybe 25% up from my normal shopping routine...

[Xtro]

I am stocked up on everything WITHOUT panic buying.. using common sense.... maybe 25% up from my normal shopping routine...

How do you hold your shopping bags when swinging through the trees on your way home?      

[NuruGuru]

Hey there, in light of current situation I was wondering if any of you have observed a reduction in prices ?

Let us know if any (normal,, super honeys etc) have modified their prices ?

As they say in every crisis there’s opportunity lol

Quite the contrary I saw this delusional idiot charging £300ph lol External Link/Members Only or External Link/Members Only  - she must think some punters are THAT desperate -

[winkywanky]

I am stocked up on everything WITHOUT panic buying.. using common sense.... maybe 25% up from my normal shopping routine...

I hate to tell you this, but if everyone bought 25% more than usual then the shelves would be empty.

[Xtro]

I hate to tell you this, but if everyone bought 25% more than usual then the shelves would be empty.

I think you have to weigh up whether to buy a little more, (in this case 25%), therefore allowing yourself a longer isolation period in your treehouse until the next shopping trip.

[LLPunting]

why take the risk and end up in hospital on a ventilator.. i know i am sad prick but I'm not that sad and crazy  that I'm going to pay someone for help in assisting me to the funeral parlour... no fucken thanks...


it's like watching the old conan the barbarian film.. in the cave Conan is fucking the hottie and then she suddenly starts to turn into a serpent.. obviously he isn't  stupid enough to carry on!! he just threw her in to the fire!!!

How old and frail are you confessing to be?
You talk the talk of some virile Bollywood star, now you're running about with your skirts hitched. 

The psycho subtext of that scene is that he realises the danger of following his manly, violent, lustful ways and casts them aside to be a wiser king able to bring peace to his world.  Sadly the cost being he threw his cock in the fire.