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Offline Natwest

I have started this as a new thread but please feel free to move it, if you don’t think that’s appropriate. The last time I got kicked off “Seeking Arrangements”, I gave up on trying to argue with them and just claimed my subscription back through VISA. This seems to have triggered a high alert at their end because every attempt to re-join since then has resulted in failure. However the sheer hypocrisy of the site and the constant having to watch what I wrote led me to look at other avenues.

Being recently divorced I had joined up to “Tinder” but as the reason I got divorced was being found out on “Seeking Arrangements”, going back to looking at women of my age felt like dating my Mum’s friends! So I decided to experiment and changed the age range to 18 to 25.

So before I talk about my methodology and success rates, I thought I would look at the advantages and disadvantages between “Seeking Arrangements” and “Tinder”. First the price. I enrolled with “Tinder” for six months for around £60, this would compare with I dunno? £500 for six months with “Seeking”? Secondly the profile. As  I am single I don’t have to worry about discretion so I have my face showing clearly on my “Tinder” profile. Not sure how well it would work without a face pic and of course there is no provision for a Private Gallery. Thirdly, message content. I have had a few conversations turn pretty pornographic but of course being “Seeking” trained I do try at that point to move to Whatsapp. However the sort of messages I have written would have seen me banned from “Seeking” without hesitation. I am of course careful as I was with “Seeking” not to upset anyone but I do feel slightly less restrained. With “Seeking” every time I logged on my heart was in my mouth as to whether it would go through  to the site. With “Tinder”, I feel it is much more of a “hands off” approach. I think my total number of “bannings” from “Seeking” was around 5 but I was not a naïve newbie. I contributed a lot to the closed “Seeking” thread in the day and one of my accounts lasted four years. Somehow though I always seemed to slip up in the end. Fourthly, though you can set the distance from you in “Tinder” it doesn’t seem to work for me and I get people from all round the World replying. Easy to “unmatch” though and not dissimilar to what used to happen with being “favourited” from far flung places in “Seeking”. Once a conversation starts, I would say maybe one in ten actually progresses to Whatsapp.

My methodology on “Tinder” is as follows. I don’t bother with the swiping left or right, I just swipe right for everyone. I often don’t even look at the pictures. I can tell you the quality of girls is as least as good as “Seeking”. My rationale is that 99% of the girls are not going to come back to  me anyway and when they do, most are going to be too far away or just not reply and this is the point where I weed them out by “unmatching”. In the morning I usually have maybe 5 people wanting to start conversations and 10 who have “liked” me. When I started, I probably had to swipe 500 profiles but since then it is just a few each day. I have a standard message which I personalise by changing the name and stating I am just looking for older/younger nsa fun. I don’t mention SB/SD unless they do.

I have had one sexual meet so far. She was a 21 year old student who travelled from Guildford to where I live in Cambridgeshire. She asked for £250 for the evening (no extra for travel) and it also cost me a bottle of champagne and Nandos! It was relatively vanilla but she came several times and gave me a bloody good blow job of which all the goo went down the hatch, so I was happy. Not sure if I will see her again, a lot depends on future success. I am probably talking to half a dozen other girls, one of which allegedly is coming in the next few days and has not asked for money – yet…….I do live on my own so of course I have a lot of flexibility.

 In summary then, taking what I have learned from “Seeking” I am using Tinder in exactly the same way. There are loads of young girls in their teens and twenties on there looking for SB/SD. They are certainly not on “Tinder” to find a boyfriend. Quite a few specifically state they are looking for an older man. Being on “Seeking” was an excellent training course for anyone considering trying this.

I have also been using “Secret Benefits” of which the jury is out and I’ll report on that in a few weeks. Unless you want to spend a fortune, it requires a radically different approach to “Seeking”. What I will say though is their Customer Support is very good and it has been a lot less of a confrontational Customer/Site relationship so far. Of the 500 credits I purchased to start, I would say through polite complaining I have received over 250 free credits. But I will save that for later if this sparks enough interest as an alternative to “Seeking Arrangements”.

Online lewisjones23

all that effort and you ended up paying anyway

am I missing something here? why not just take the easy option and book someone off AW? 🤷🏻‍♂️

Offline Alonsy

I think it’s the chase partly.

Offline Natwest

You could say that about everyone using Seeking Arrangements. There are literally thousands of posts on here as to why people have been using SB/SD sites rather than AW. I haven't used AW since I started using SA and have been using Tinder in the same way as I used SA before the last ban. I wasn't expecting not to pay but she was here for 3 hours and she hadn't sucked 10 cocks before she got to me. As I say, it's a lifestyle choice.

Offline Alonsy

You could say that about everyone using Seeking Arrangements. There are literally thousands of posts on here as to why people have been using SB/SD sites rather than AW. I haven't used AW since I started using SA and have been using Tinder in the same way as I used SA before the last ban. I wasn't expecting not to pay but she was here for 3 hours and she hadn't sucked 10 cocks before she got to me. As I say, it's a lifestyle choice.

I think that’s the attraction for me too. But as you say each to their own.

Offline Natwest

I think it’s the chase partly.

It is also the chase, I agree. The girl I met, I started talking to her a couple of days before on Tinder and after a bit of chat, she was on her way to me. It was good sex and both got something out of it. It wasn't per hour either. In all my time on AW there were only two girls I would still perhaps go back to if they were working. But to go back to paying by the hour, no I wouldn't want to do that. There are already many pages of arguments on the merits of sites like Seeking Arrangements against AW so I'll try not to add to that and that wasn't the purpose of my post. It was just to show that there might be cheaper alternatives to Seeking Arrangements that some might not have thought about.

Offline lillythesavage

You could say that about everyone using Seeking Arrangements. There are literally thousands of posts on here as to why people have been using SB/SD sites rather than AW. I haven't used AW since I started using SA and have been using Tinder in the same way as I used SA before the last ban. I wasn't expecting not to pay but she was here for 3 hours and she hadn't sucked 10 cocks before she got to me. As I say, it's a lifestyle choice.

Just about sums it up, a choice, still punting just a different way the site will not allow you to review, still sex workers even if some like to think they are not.

The big difference is not on a clock, not conveyor belt, and no bloody extras.

AW etc ok for P&D at times of need :D

Offline lillythesavage

all that effort and you ended up paying anyway

am I missing something here? why not just take the easy option and book someone off AW? 🤷🏻‍♂️


Give it a try, yes, you still pay but it is a far different experience and like the OP says many are happy to meet older guys, unlike an AW young hottie that is seeing her tenth wrinkly and thinking here we go again, another performance.

Offline Natwest


Give it a try, yes, you still pay but it is a far different experience and like the OP says many are happy to meet older guys, unlike an AW young hottie that is seeing her tenth wrinkly and thinking here we go again, another performance.

Exactly! I am 68, (though I lied about my age and said I was 55) but she was 21.

Offline Golden Hind

Just so you know if you swipe right on everyone it negatively impacts how your profile is rated on the tinder algorithm, so your profile will be shown to less people.

Never used it in the UK but when abroad tinder can be a good option to find seeking type girls, plenty of escorts always on there too.

Offline BN99

Thanks for the write up and thoughts. Will give it a go next time im far enough away from home.

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Offline Bikerman

 I joined tinder 5 years ago and saw 3 women advertising as single but were married...  i knew them from swinging days...anyway i did the swiping and got lucky with a 61 year old from salford quays.. met on a monday morning at 9.30.. shag inlift to floor.. then in flat we fucked til 12ish .. i had to stop so i could go to work...i used to get her to video herself playing..she likedbeing  instructed..saw her once more after that then she moved on.. but i saw so many women i recognised from clubs and meets ...but i found too that they came up on my people i may know on facebook..
Banned reason: Shitstiring troll
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Offline Carl Adams

Interesting thread - cheers!  For me (also divorced and living alone):

AW - straightforward and rarely any connection made but no hassle with emotional attachment

SA - longer winded version of AW but I also found a couple of lasses who have stayed as "friends" because we got/get on

Tinder - limited experience for me and I set distance and age ranges (also did not want a girlfriend the same age as the ex) and had reasonable success but whilst your profile is live, they soon get angsty if you are talking to others, etc.  Several girlfriends from it and in touch with most of them - also found a few who seemed to think it was SA!

Secret Benefits - not yet tried as the 10 credits a girl means the cheapest package would only do 10 girls.  Would be interested to hear stories of anyone who has had success though

Interestingly, have seen girls with profiles on all four - presumably WGs who are maximising their exposure!!


Offline billybobsmith

I'm trying this method at present, although 90% of matches are 50-60 miles away from me.  Run out of options now as well for the 18-25yo age group.

Not quite sure what to put as a headline to indicate I'm looking for a sort of sugar babe experience, and not sure if my dodgy photos put them off - probably need some full length ones, maybe wear a shirt / tie etc.
Have had 4 likes so far and messaged 3 of them with no response as of yet (think they're in Leeds / York at University?)
The 4th one just un-liked me after I messaged.


Offline Chorley

Doesn't constantly swiping right mess the algorithm on Tinder, meaning you eventually have to make a new profile?  :unknown:

Offline Natwest

I'm trying this method at present, although 90% of matches are 50-60 miles away from me.  Run out of options now as well for the 18-25yo age group.

Not quite sure what to put as a headline to indicate I'm looking for a sort of sugar babe experience, and not sure if my dodgy photos put them off - probably need some full length ones, maybe wear a shirt / tie etc.
Have had 4 likes so far and messaged 3 of them with no response as of yet (think they're in Leeds / York at University?)
The 4th one just un-liked me after I messaged.

It does require perseverance. I have been lucky with one so far and have got a few on to WhatsApp but if I think of my overall success rate with Seeking it is not a lot different and a fraction of the price. What Tinder costs is two weeks on Seeking Arrangements.

Offline Natwest

Doesn't constantly swiping right mess the algorithm on Tinder, meaning you eventually have to make a new profile?  :unknown:

I have been doing it for around 4 weeks now and no side effects on using Tinder as far as I can see.

Offline sparkus

Unless you're prepared to spend the cash on the monthly fee and the occasional profile boost then you will get nil from Tinder.

Without Superlikes you're just another bloke with a mobile phone wanting to get his dick wet and not.

Offline MrFlirt

Doesn't constantly swiping right mess the algorithm on Tinder, meaning you eventually have to make a new profile?  :unknown:

Pretty much, yes.

The way Tinder works is that it starts off assuming you're really hot, and it shows you to really hot girls. After a number of people have seen your profile it can see the average number of showings you get before someone swipes you back. So if you only get say one swipe per hundred shows, it works out that you're not hot at all, you're a bit of a minger. But it wants mingers to enjoy themselves too, so instead of showing you to hot girls, it shows you to mingers - the girls that nobody swipes on. That way you're more likely to get matches, even if they are mingers.

It also has something called a Noobie-Boost. For people just on, it shows you to loads more people, you're "fresh meat" which is good for everyone to see, and they want you to have a good experience and pay for the upgrades, so they show you to loads more people in the first few days.

So swiping right on everyone, especially as (no offence, me too) an old bloke swiping right on 20 year old hotties, the quality and quantity of matches is going to go down - it's going to see your success rate, and deliberatly reduce the quality of who you're shown to, as a favour to you. So you are better off being as selective as you can, that at least will slow down the rate at which it works out what you really look like.

But actually the simple and best trick is just to completely delete your account once it gets stale, and create a new one. You need to do this using your phone number, not a linked facebook profile. Because of GDPR it has to genuinely delete your identity, then you start again 30 seconds later uploading the same pictures and writing the same drivel, and where you might previously have been like tumbleweed in the desert suddenly you're awash with new hot matches. If you have upgraded your account as you mentioned, it will apply the upgrade even after you delete and restart, it just takes about 24 hours I think and you'll see your account upgrading - it does it based on your apple account, not your Tinder profile. So that's my top tip for Tinder. Delete your account every couple of weeks, start up again, and it thinks your Brad Pitt until it works out otherwise.

I've never used it for SB / SD / Hookups, I used it to find girlfriends after my divorce. Tinder was pretty shit, Bumble was much better and I've been out with some cracking girls, several for 6 months or so, and I'm confident now of being able to meet the love of my life when I next feel like going on that journey. But, every now and again I've met someone pretty interesting on Tinder - a lifestyle dominatrix who lives round the corner, a Braziliian girl who just stood in my front room and took all her clothes off because I wasn't getting the hint, and a girl who likes to film herself giving blowjobs to strangers in public car parks and send them to her boyfriend. We matched, half a dozen messages later and a 20 minute drive and I was being very enthusiastically gobbled without even the inconvenience of leaving the driving seat. We did this half a dozen times until I started going out with someone... hmmm might give her a ring later!

So I hope that helps generally with Tinder. I'm at a cross roads, I'm single again, quite happily so, might try your technique to meet an SB for some fun. On the odd occasion I've told it to match girls in their 20's out of fascination, I too have been approached very quickly by "that type", though never followed it through. Yet.

Good luck!




Offline sparkus

I've ostensibly matched with women on Tinder who've sworn blind they didn't swipe on me and been pissed off we've matched (it's like they enjoy dumping you by telling you they're about to unmatch you).  Usually the archetypical blonde 'stunner' in swimwear.

You're right about the mingers, I've matched with women who've used flattering/deceptive pics to get matches then revealed their 'true self' and they're like "I can't believe a bloke as handsome as you is single!" (I'm neither handsome nor single though)

Offline JontyR

Sorry if I have got this wrong but if you pay for tinder....why do you have to swipe at all? Can't you just see who has "liked" you?


Offline anilap


 In summary then, taking what I have learned from “Seeking” I am using Tinder in exactly the same way. There are loads of young girls in their teens and twenties on there looking for SB/SD. They are certainly not on “Tinder” to find a boyfriend. Quite a few specifically state they are looking for an older man. Being on “Seeking” was an excellent training course for anyone considering trying this.


Thank you for information and improving my insight.  I have a query though. How do you know some one is SB type  on Tinder  rather than some one looking for love of their life ? Did you ask them directly  or do they drop hints  in their messages or in their profile  description?  as some one who  struggle to see the subtle signs or hints, it would be helpful to know what the signs are

Offline Natwest

Thank you for information and improving my insight.  I have a query though. How do you know some one is SB type  on Tinder  rather than some one looking for love of their life ? Did you ask them directly  or do they drop hints  in their messages or in their profile  description?  as some one who  struggle to see the subtle signs or hints, it would be helpful to know what the signs are

I just send a generic message, not saying directly looking for SB/SD though if the person puts it in their profile as some do I will add a bit on that. If someone is looking for love my message is polite enough but they probably wont reply. A surprising number are on there for SB/SD but there are also the scammers as well. Had an 18 year old yesterday coming on to me real strong saying she wanted to come over but needed petrol money. Went quiet when I suggested coming to collect her. So one has to be just as careful as on Seeking.

Offline billybobsmith

I'm struggling to get Tinder to actually do what I say.
I select a distance of say 50 miles, go to the search bit and no-one near me.  Go back to settings and it's saying 28 miles.  Change it to 50 miles, and the same thing happens.
Occasionally it does what I want, but 99% of the time, keeps defaulting to whatever it chooses.
Same with ages.  Select 18-40, and it changes back to 18-25 or whatever.

Got one onto WA yesterday evening, but either she found me to be boring and cleared off, or something else.  Suspect a scam somewhere though, but using a clean punting phone with a PAYG sim so not bothered.
Couple of others haven't replied.



Offline PunterNumber69

Seems like a lot of effort. Easier to give an escort a call and be there in 30 minutes.

Offline billybobsmith

Seems like a lot of effort. Easier to give an escort a call and be there in 30 minutes.

Yes, but there can be benefits.
I would personally rather pay £150-£250 + hotel etc. for a potential overnight with say a 20yo uni girl than £150/hr for a potentially hit and miss woman from AW.
As with others, it can be a long running game to get one, but then again, even AW has women getting back to you 2 days later with "I'm free this afternoon babe", so not much use if you've a schedule, hotel booked for work etc.

SA has worked well for me in the past, although not as well recently (well, Covid has buggered up a lot of it).  Past it's glory days to be honest, so trying anything is worth a shot - can't be much worse than my track record at present!


Offline PunterNumber69

Yes, but there can be benefits.
I would personally rather pay £150-£250 + hotel etc. for a potential overnight with say a 20yo uni girl than £150/hr for a potentially hit and miss woman from AW.
As with others, it can be a long running game to get one, but then again, even AW has women getting back to you 2 days later with "I'm free this afternoon babe", so not much use if you've a schedule, hotel booked for work etc.

SA has worked well for me in the past, although not as well recently (well, Covid has buggered up a lot of it).  Past it's glory days to be honest, so trying anything is worth a shot - can't be much worse than my track record at present!
Are these 20 yr uni girls happy to meet up with ugly old men like me?

Offline lillythesavage

Are these 20 yr uni girls happy to meet up with ugly old men like me?


Lol, that is the difference I tried to explain earlier, they know what they are meeting and do it happily, where as AW they have little clue until you turn up.

I have 4 on the go, the oldest is 25 and a law graduate, just chatting with her about meeting at the weekend again, she instigated the second meet, she hosts and lives alone, not many do, I am very much the wrong side of fifty and have a MMF arranged for Friday with a 23 year old. Second meeting with her too.
Another 26 year old I have seen for over a year now no longer charges me and just calls when she is horny, to be honest I am avoiding her, getting a bit clingy. One will not fuck, said she will for my birthday though, but man she will deepthroat and gag for hours and cums on my face while doing it and a stunner.


Offline PunterNumber69


Lol, that is the difference I tried to explain earlier, they know what they are meeting and do it happily, where as AW they have little clue until you turn up.

I have 4 on the go, the oldest is 25 and a law graduate, just chatting with her about meeting at the weekend again, she instigated the second meet, she hosts and lives alone, not many do, I am very much the wrong side of fifty and have a MMF arranged for Friday with a 23 year old. Second meeting with her too.
Another 26 year old I have seen for over a year now no longer charges me and just calls when she is horny, to be honest I am avoiding her, getting a bit clingy. One will not fuck, said she will for my birthday though, but man she will deepthroat and gag for hours and cums on my face while doing it and a stunner.
Interesting, but I have low self-confidence and I'm as ugly as sin, so best not to put them off with photos before hand.  I guess I could always take a paper bag along just in case.

Offline sparkus

Interesting, but I have low self-confidence and I'm as ugly as sin, so best not to put them off with photos before hand.  I guess I could always take a paper bag along just in case.

You think you are and you may have been told that, but women are a diverse bunch and you might tick someone's box.

What women on Tinder tell me are the biggest turn-offs for photos:

- hobbies eg. fishing, motorbikes etc.
- untidy setting eg. living room or bedroom with laundry drying in background
- big gang of blokes in pic or arm round a woman etc.
- a no-brainer but anything shirtless, flicking the v's, can of lager in hand etc.

I've seen all the above in a hall of shame and some women also do those but get away with it.

Offline standardpostage

Never used Tinder.
Although in the early 70s I did use Dateline. (Dating agency).
I had to write letters, post them, and then wait for a letter to arrive back.
Everything took ages.

Offline Mr Sinister

Seems like a lot of effort. Easier to give an escort a call and be there in 30 minutes.

We all pay to gain access to pussy one way or another even in civvy world outside of buying a bottle of wine and a takeaway, your time, energy and attention is a form of payment.

Going down a different avenue like seeking is a different experience to seeing a normal wg from AW, I can see the excitement in it.

Offline Natwest

Are these 20 yr uni girls happy to meet up with ugly old men like me?

My hit so far was with a 21 year old, fit as fuck for £250 for the evening, I'm 68. Bit of effort that's for sure but I would rather that than ever go back to AW.

Offline sparkus

Are these 20 yr uni girls happy to meet up with ugly old men like me?

No idea about yourself but the whole 'daddy issues' thing has stood me in good stead with women half my age.

Offline The0neAnd0nly

No idea about yourself but the whole 'daddy issues' thing has stood me in good stead with women half my age.

Haha I agree with this 100%, all my casual and filthy fucks have been with girls much younger and pricks for fathers or otherwise M.I.A

If only dating apps had a "Daddy Issues" filter  :lol:

Offline sparkus

Haha I agree with this 100%, all my casual and filthy fucks have been with girls much younger and pricks for fathers or otherwise M.I.A

If only dating apps had a "Daddy Issues" filter  :lol:

I had some leads on Tinder during the last lockdown and decent mixed race shelf arse pics sent, all by girls with precisely that.

First time I encountered it was on a date I told myself wouldn't show she was so young (eg. half my age).  I was talking away and she said "Shut up, please" and just dived on me, mouth open.  Another said before the date "Just warning you but I will be on top of you in the first 10 minutes of us meeting."

Just wondering if the older blokes on here had this when they hit 40? :sarcastic:

Offline billybobsmith

I've had zero anything today.  Must have swiped right on quite a few hundred in and around my area, including various Uni towns and no likes whatsoever.
Obviously they do have some standards ;)

Staying in a hotel tomorrow night for work so would have been nice to get someone around seeing as it's easier now restrictions have been eased.
Their loss perhaps.
(nothing of interest locally on AW, so won't be venturing there this time)


Offline sparkus

I've had zero anything today.  Must have swiped right on quite a few hundred in and around my area, including various Uni towns and no likes whatsoever.
Obviously they do have some standards ;)

Staying in a hotel tomorrow night for work so would have been nice to get someone around seeing as it's easier now restrictions have been eased.
Their loss perhaps.
(nothing of interest locally on AW, so won't be venturing there this time)

Hotel bar? (it's not unknown)

Offline lillythesavage

Interesting, but I have low self-confidence and I'm as ugly as sin, so best not to put them off with photos before hand.  I guess I could always take a paper bag along just in case.

Mate, read the posts below yours, I am no looker and carry no weight or muscle after an accident and illness, bald as their pussies and have had confidence issues, during recovery, which these young fillies are doing wonders for. Nothing can lift your mood than a young girl almost a third your age snogging your face off and riding your cock.

There are other things to it too, like the boring Sunday evening, last Sunday, after the wife going home, and having 4 Whatsapp chats going on with 4 young women bored at home. 2 message every day almost.

Patience and personality is the key, the worst that can happen is they say no, which they rarely do because they need the money and actually enjoy the company, more so the educated ones who cannot get good sex or good conversation with twats their own age.

@sparkus has been at it longer than me and is younger, but he is basically saying the same as me, and do not think a flash car is needed to impress, I often do pick them up from the station, or home if it seals the deal, in a 16 year old Transit van.

Once you crack it, AW is no comparison and only for spontaneous P&D,s when needs must, planning and researching a punt is time I put into other sites, you have to be patient and flexible, but the rewards are so much greater and there is no post punt remorse. Well not had any yet.

Offline Natwest



Patience and personality is the key, the worst that can happen is they say no, which they rarely do because they need the money and actually enjoy the company, more so the educated ones who cannot get good sex or good conversation with twats their own age.

Once you crack it, AW is no comparison and only for spontaneous P&D,s when needs must, planning and researching a punt is time I put into other sites, you have to be patient and flexible, but the rewards are so much greater and there is no post punt remorse. Well not had any yet.

This is so true. When my last relationship broke up, I decided to go for SD/SB and always with girls substantially younger. The oral skills of an older man beats guys their age by so many miles and there is no better feeling than a girl a third your age writhing on the end of your tongue. And they love it because all the guys their age have been brought up on a steady diet of porn and are clueless on how to please a woman.

Offline lillythesavage

I had some leads on Tinder during the last lockdown and decent mixed race shelf arse pics sent, all by girls with precisely that.

First time I encountered it was on a date I told myself wouldn't show she was so young (eg. half my age).  I was talking away and she said "Shut up, please" and just dived on me, mouth open.  Another said before the date "Just warning you but I will be on top of you in the first 10 minutes of us meeting."

Just wondering if the older blokes on here had this when they hit 40? :sarcastic:


Never had anything but a full on snogfest as BHR puts it.

My next birthday is 60 lol, the oldest on the go is a white 25 year old, the youngest, 21,  mixed a real looker and great fun company, snogged my face off on the journey home at every set of lights and outside the home she shares with her mum. I even met her for lunch once just for a snog fest.

When I read reviews where a light kiss has to be paid for it just makes this way worth the effort.

To be honest, it got me through lockdown and has aided recovery where as bad punts would put you down more.it was the first lockdown that got me more into it, too much time and not a lot of quality around on AW and I cannot see going back to searching and hoping for good sex on the clock.

Money gets you in, but is not the be all and end all, they meet older guys to gain experience and have good sex that the porn trained youngsters do not give them and pay some bills. got to be honest though, the daddy stuff does little for me, it works with some, and I have done it but never repeated with any of them, maybe I am no good at it  :D

Offline billybobsmith

Wonder if age makes a difference?
If you put something like 45yo Vs. 55yo, is the older person going to appeal more to younger women (assuming similar photos, area etc.)?

Not sure if someone older may come across as more established, more father figure / daddy like or what.


Anyway, do wish these apps could sort of their distances.  Manchester isn't 40 miles from say Lincoln or Nottingham.  London is definitely nowhere near the NW of England either.

Offline lillythesavage

Wonder if age makes a difference?
If you put something like 45yo Vs. 55yo, is the older person going to appeal more to younger women (assuming similar photos, area etc.)?

Not sure if someone older may come across as more established, more father figure / daddy like or what.


Anyway, do wish these apps could sort of their distances.  Manchester isn't 40 miles from say Lincoln or Nottingham.  London is definitely nowhere near the NW of England either.


You are going down Aw age changing bollocks lol, just be yourself, it is personality rather than age, and money come to think of it, that appeals to these amateur SP,s.

Read the seeking threads too, some there think they are not SP,s, lots of good intel though. I cba with the meet and greet stuff, did it once and was buried in her ass less than 30 minutes from meeting, in the car at lunchtime.

Everyone is different though, so reading those threads is good intel to find what suits you. For me. like Aw, bargaining is a no, ask what makes them happy, pay it or leave it, they all have a magic number they think they are worth. Some may respond to it, as the seeking threads will tell you, I do not do it.

Offline billybobsmith


You are going down Aw age changing bollocks lol, just be yourself, it is personality rather than age, and money come to think of it, that appeals to these amateur SP,s.

Read the seeking threads too, some there think they are not SP,s, lots of good intel though. I cba with the meet and greet stuff, did it once and was buried in her ass less than 30 minutes from meeting, in the car at lunchtime.

Everyone is different though, so reading those threads is good intel to find what suits you. For me. like Aw, bargaining is a no, ask what makes them happy, pay it or leave it, they all have a magic number they think they are worth. Some may respond to it, as the seeking threads will tell you, I do not do it.

You can't really show your personality on Tinder though.  Well, a little with pictures of you showing off with flash cars, beach shots, beers at the pub etc., but these are things you're supposed to avoid and unless she's a gold digger looking for those things, you look like a douche.
I'm not sure that a 40yo is what they would define as a sugar daddy type, and that's assuming they actually read a single line of what's below your main picture and don't instantly judge on looks and swipe left.
(Although have seen 1 or 2 on SA wanting an SD who's no older than 30)

If you can't get them to like you in the first place, then your offer of something (some OTT figure out of the blue) like £1k for dinner is never going to be seen by them.
Not sure if they search for 40-70 year olds, or if you just come up in a generic 18-79yo search.

At least with SA, a lot will reply and you have broken the ice enough to get them onto WA and make offers.
Tinder, I can't say if it is solely looks based, a very small % are specifically looking at profiles for keywords / age groups etc. or what.

Offline lillythesavage

You can't really show your personality on Tinder though.  Well, a little with pictures of you showing off with flash cars, beach shots, beers at the pub etc., but these are things you're supposed to avoid and unless she's a gold digger looking for those things, you look like a douche.
I'm not sure that a 40yo is what they would define as a sugar daddy type, and that's assuming they actually read a single line of what's below your main picture and don't instantly judge on looks and swipe left.
(Although have seen 1 or 2 on SA wanting an SD who's no older than 30)

If you can't get them to like you in the first place, then your offer of something (some OTT figure out of the blue) like £1k for dinner is never going to be seen by them.
Not sure if they search for 40-70 year olds, or if you just come up in a generic 18-79yo search.

At least with SA, a lot will reply and you have broken the ice enough to get them onto WA and make offers.
Tinder, I can't say if it is solely looks based, a very small % are specifically looking at profiles for keywords / age groups etc. or what.


You really are over thinking this, you will get rejections and you will get to Whatsapp, then it is up to your personality and your wallet, expect nothing, you will get nothing, give it a go and you will soon learn the signs.

If flash cars and 1k dinners do it for your ego, then take that route, a Transit van and affordable fucks does it for me with sensible young women having some fun and paying a few bills.

The mixed race 21 year old could do Onlyfans etc and be all over the black/mixed threads if she advertised but she is down to earth fun company and I am not going to tell her :lol:. She has a catchphrase, " I love sucking cock for money" , come to think of it she would be all over the deepthroat/gagging/puking thread too.

I drew the line at puking but she was on the verge, several times, sat on my face for a break. There are gems out there, you just got to find them and talk them into bed.

Offline billybobsmith

No interest in flash cars, overpriced meals etc.  Don't mind paying a little extra, say £250 instead of £150-£200 for the right person, but spending ££££ isn't in my interests.

It's just trying to get them to like me in the first place to start the ball rolling.

At present, my search is set for 30 miles and 18-25 year olds.  Zero coming up even though there are 2 university cities in that sort of area.

Must have swiped right on 500+ from various university cities (Manchester, Leeds, Sheffield, Nottingham, Lincoln etc.) through to random places that came up, and practically nothing "like" wise.

SA seems to work better for me as both parties generally know why they are there (putting aside scammers, photo sellers etc. in my case), not Tinder where they want to "date", whatever that means in women speak.


Offline sir wanksalot

Never had anything but a full on snogfest as BHR puts it.

My next birthday is 60 lol, the oldest on the go is a white 25 year old, the youngest, 21,  mixed a real looker and great fun company, snogged my face off on the journey home at every set of lights and outside the home she shares with her mum. I even met her for lunch once just for a snog fest.

When I read reviews where a light kiss has to be paid for it just makes this way worth the effort.

To be honest, it got me through lockdown and has aided recovery where as bad punts would put you down more.it was the first lockdown that got me more into it, too much time and not a lot of quality around on AW and I cannot see going back to searching and hoping for good sex on the clock.

Money gets you in, but is not the be all and end all, they meet older guys to gain experience and have good sex that the porn trained youngsters do not give them and pay some bills. got to be honest though, the daddy stuff does little for me, it works with some, and I have done it but never repeated with any of them, maybe I am no good at it  :D

Fascinating!!

I take it you are paying them? Can I ask how much are we typically looking at?

Offline sparkus


You really are over thinking this, you will get rejections and you will get to Whatsapp, then it is up to your personality and your wallet, expect nothing, you will get nothing, give it a go and you will soon learn the signs.

If flash cars and 1k dinners do it for your ego, then take that route, a Transit van and affordable fucks does it for me with sensible young women having some fun and paying a few bills.

The mixed race 21 year old could do Onlyfans etc and be all over the black/mixed threads if she advertised but she is down to earth fun company and I am not going to tell her :lol:. She has a catchphrase, " I love sucking cock for money" , come to think of it she would be all over the deepthroat/gagging/puking thread too.

I drew the line at puking but she was on the verge, several times, sat on my face for a break. There are gems out there, you just got to find them and talk them into bed.

If I could have my time over I would go back and shake myself as I seriously didn't imagine women who were much younger would ever entertain the idea of casual fun with me and I missed so many opportunities by thinking it was TGTBT etc.  Forget money, some just love sucking dick (the last one was far from a skank, had a decent salary back home and just came to London for a break and to enjoy some blokes).

There are some young slutty women on Tinder who get off on trading BJs for joints too.

I suppose women can far easier reconcile themselves with providing fun via a global brand app with social proof than joining Fab Swingers or Adult Friend Finder.

Offline cotton

No interest in flash cars, overpriced meals etc.  Don't mind paying a little extra, say £250 instead of £150-£200 for the right person, but spending ££££ isn't in my interests.

It's just trying to get them to like me in the first place to start the ball rolling.

At present, my search is set for 30 miles and 18-25 year olds.  Zero coming up even though there are 2 university cities in that sort of area.

Must have swiped right on 500+ from various university cities (Manchester, Leeds, Sheffield, Nottingham, Lincoln etc.) through to random places that came up, and practically nothing "like" wise.

SA seems to work better for me as both parties generally know why they are there (putting aside scammers, photo sellers etc. in my case), not Tinder where they want to "date", whatever that means in women speak.
Defo eye opening if 60+ year old olds are grabbing young pussy off tinder ,  but as Sir Wanksalot says what are you expected to pay them , like £250 is way to much , £20 would be more realistic .