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James999

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Some pro$$ies find it difficult because

Either

A They have been to swiss finishing school and as such don't use bad language
B They are thick as fuck and unable to do two things at onces, and can't talk when concentrating on breathing in and out
C They simply can't be arsed as they are doing their shopping list in their heads
D They are to busy working out what drugs they can buy with the money you've just given them

Offline valdishere

Signed off at 2am this morning after few posts and reading through many threads.
FFS vorian I do honestly like you posts and can live with sometimes lengthy ones as you invariably make some well observed and relevant points that spark good discussion.
However on this topic think I need to see a shrink myself as the latter dialogue with you Poppy Smiths till 4.39am is somewhat over analysing IMO.
6 & half hours later at just after 11am you’re back again no doubt having slept on it and thinking a little more!!
Did read previously in one of your other posts that you are an avid fan of 69, no doubt your ladies enjoy letting you eat away as it lets them get away from a serious earache lecture on dirty talk techniques and the consequent effect on global warming due to CO2 emissions.
Have a nice weekend     

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I get asked for dirty talk about twice a year so does feel a bit rusty when I do it, and prefer not to whisper 'sweet nothings' about how big a blokes cock is, how much I want him or whatever because you don't know how it's going to affect that person.

Are you all trying to say every or most punters would like a stream of dirtyness and they just aren't telling me this?

Roland D Hay

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Because they don't particularly enjoy it and failed to graduate from RADA.

vorian

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vorian, I was with poppy thinking you wanted a WG to scream “Fuck me harder” while you had sex. This could be the problem when you request a WG talks dirty to you, as they may make the same mistake.

Yes you may be right it is a grey area

vorian

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Signed off at 2am this morning after few posts and reading through many threads.
FFS vorian I do honestly like you posts and can live with sometimes lengthy ones as you invariably make some well observed and relevant points that spark good discussion.
However on this topic think I need to see a shrink myself as the latter dialogue with you Poppy Smiths till 4.39am is somewhat over analysing IMO.
6 & half hours later at just after 11am you’re back again no doubt having slept on it and thinking a little more!!
Did read previously in one of your other posts that you are an avid fan of 69, no doubt your ladies enjoy letting you eat away as it lets them get away from a serious earache lecture on dirty talk techniques and the consequent effect on global warming due to CO2 emissions.
Have a nice weekend     

Very good, I am who I am. I do like your observations and think you are spot on. Thank you.

Mara

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Any hints and Tips from WG members

For me it's the language barrier, even though my English is not too bad and I am able to use it properly in my day job I would struggle with it and probably ruin the whole atmosphere.

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I don't offer it very often as I find it comes across as fake unless it is with someone I know very well.  It is not everyday language for me so even with the best acting skills if I am not turned on then it doesn't feel or sound right plus the timing would be off too which I would expect to be off putting for the punter.  I probably get asked a couple of times a year for this if that so its not even something that can be practised a lot.  Then again I offer a sensual GFE and the majority of my clients would probably cringe if I did start talking like that

James999

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For me it's the language barrier, even though my English is not too bad and I am able to use it properly in my day job I would struggle with it and probably ruin the whole atmosphere.

That's a common excuse among foreigners, their English is fine till they don't want to do something (pay tax, sort out a problem etc) or when stopped by the police or questioned by the authorities all of a sudden they "don't understand"  :sarcastic:

Mara

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That's a common excuse among foreigners, their English is fine till they don't want to do something (pay tax, sort out a problem etc) or when stopped by the police or questioned by the authorities all of a sudden they "don't understand"  :sarcastic:

Maybe, so far I have never been in trouble with the police or questioned by the authorities and I am not planning to get into trouble, but I am sure I could handle it.
However, the question was why some of WG's are not good in talking dirty or don't offer it at all.
I don't do it because I think that my language skills are not good enough to deliver a decent performance.

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I generally have a filthy mind/mouth, and can come out with things that would make a navvy blush (even in non-sexual situations)....but put me on the spot by saying "Talk dirty to me" and it's like someone's flicked the "off" switch. I clam right up, because I can't just tap into my filth pot on demand. It has to be part of "the moment", going with the flow, or I just clam up. I envy the ladies who can do it so convincingly.

Curious6705

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I think dirty talk comes naturally to some girls - for example - Vera who is currently at LMP - even though English is not her first language. I think I prefer to celebrate those who are good at it rather than put down those who aren't. If a WG is not comfortable with it I'd prefer them not to bother rather than put on act.
« Last Edit: January 18, 2014, 02:58:44 pm by Curious6705 »

Offline Silver Birch

Fake dirty talk is as much of a turn off as a fake orgasm to me.

I punted a couple of times with an otherwise excellent wg who moaned and whimpered before declaring "you made me cum" soon after RO began. Either she had a super sensitive clit BEFORE she came, and a super UN-sensitive clit afterwards.... or she faked it.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: This is so fucking patronising is stopped me seeing her again and I have to say, badly done 'dirty talk' makes me feel the same way.

Most of the time I think they are just trying to make me cum to get the deed over. Sometimes it has exactly that effect, but usually it makes me more determined not to!

vorian

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Fake dirty talk is as much of a turn off as a fake orgasm to me.

I punted a couple of times with an otherwise excellent wg who moaned and whimpered before declaring "you made me cum" soon after RO began. Either she had a super sensitive clit BEFORE she came, and a super UN-sensitive clit afterwards.... or she faked it.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: This is so fucking patronising is stopped me seeing her again and I have to say, badly done 'dirty talk' makes me feel the same way.

Most of the time I think they are just trying to make me cum to get the deed over. Sometimes it has exactly that effect, but usually it makes me more determined not to!

I agree with you but it seems a lot of posts about badly done dirty talk not working for anyone.  Only a few posts about it being done well. If it was done well would there be a demand.

Offline Silver Birch

but put me on the spot by saying "Talk dirty to me" and it's like someone's flicked the "off" switch. I clam right up, because I can't just tap into my filth pot on demand. It has to be part of "the moment", going with the flow, or I just clam up.

I guess it is a bit like someone saying "tell me a funny joke". My brain ceases to function immediately.

To be fair, telling jokes is NEVER expected of me as part of my job so perhaps not a great analogy  :music:

Curious6705

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I agree with you but it seems a lot of posts about badly done dirty talk not working for anyone.  Only a few posts about it being done well. If it was done well would there be a demand.

Some WGs are naturally gifted with great tits. Some have a natural gift for dirty talk.

vorian

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Some WGs are naturally gifted with great tits. Some have a natural gift for dirty talk.

Very true but unlike great tits dirty talking is an acting skill which can be learned if there is a demand and a will to supply that demand.

Curious6705

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Very true but unlike great tits dirty talking is an acting skill which can be learned if there is a demand and a will to supply that demand.

I disagree, acting is also a natural gift. Arnold Schwarzenegger is an example of someone who after decades trying to act is still absolutely shite at it.

vorian

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I disagree, acting is also a natural gift. Arnold Schwarzenegger is an example of someone who after decades trying to act is still absolutely shite at it.

Yep you have got me on that one. I really don't want Arnie talking dirty to me at any time :lol:

Offline NIK

One of the worst of many I've experienced was a Russian called Olga in Salford Quays who came out with this corny,  'You are my James Bond' routine. It really put me off as it was so stupid and false.

Apparently she did this routine with all the boys!   :rolleyes:

Rochdull lad

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It seems that some of our prossie member's are saying there is little call for dirty talk or even sweet talk as a service.  I'm not sure if it is a lack of demand from punters or a service that is so poorly done on the whole that punters don't bother, what do other members think.

When it's been initiated by the girl during a session, then it can be a real turn-on for me and is usually a factor in that girl being on my Hotlist.

However, if I suggest it, then there's often a reluctance on the WG's behalf: "Oh, I can't do that; I'm no good as it."  To which the only riposte can surely be, "The more you try it, the better you'll get."

vorian

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When it's been initiated by the girl during a session, then it can be a real turn-on for me and is usually a factor in that girl being on my Hotlist.

However, if I suggest it, then there's often a reluctance on the WG's behalf: "Oh, I can't do that; I'm no good as it."  To which the only riposte can surely be, "The more you try it, the better you'll get."

That's my personal opinion and they really should try harder to master this skill.

Offline akauya

Fake dirty talk is as much of a turn off as a fake orgasm to me.

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Most of the time I think they are just trying to make me cum to get the deed over. Sometimes it has exactly that effect, but usually it makes me more determined not to!

I feel much the same way.

I do like a bit if dirty talk but only when it is given genuinely. For example I had lovers who were excellent at this and obviously weren't getting paid so it felt genuine and did turn me on. Again with some swingers I had the fortune to fuck, when they used dirty talk to encourage me to fuck them harder, definitely.

I would only enjoy dirty talk with a prossie if I knew she actually enjoys her job and is enjoying her meeting with me. Otherwise I'd rather not have dirty talk.


   

Offline house music dave

Is it weird that I need dirty talk to get me hard a second time? I guess you could blame it on the fact that I'm in my 20's and have watched porn in the past. As soon as a girl started talking authentically dirty the first time i knew that was a trigger for me, same with spitting on the other topic. Without audible stimulation or certain triggers it's difficult to get hard a second time. This book has some really intresting bits on fetishes and why we like what we do.

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vorian

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Is it weird that I need dirty talk to get me hard a second time? I guess you could blame it on the fact that I'm in my 20's and have watched porn in the past. As soon as a girl started talking authentically dirty the first time i knew that was a trigger for me, same with spitting on the other topic. Without audible stimulation or certain triggers it's difficult to get hard a second time. This book has some really intresting bits on fetishes and why we like what we do.

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Great reply,  porn does seem to be a factor for this fetishism,  imho the WG are put off because of the porn and the punters seem to like it because of the porn. Yes I know massive generalisation.  If that is the case is seems the prossies are missing an easy trick.

Offline akauya

@ Vorian and Dave

Sorry but in my case no - dirty talk in porn is just so so fake it does nothing for me. Whenever there is a 'porn starlet' doing the dirty talk routine and shouting in "ecstasy" I turn off the sound because it annoys the hell out of me.

Yeah I'm a bit weird like that :)


Kendra

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I was actually discussing this very topic just recently.

I am utterly crap at dirty talk. I think role play and dirty talk can only be done if someone is confident and not easily cringed out!

I cringe at the best of times, my accent makes me cringe. Ever heard a Glaswegian talk on the telly? Ever heard Rab C Nisbit on the telly? It's ROUGH!!! And so me trying to talk all sexy with my broad accent just creeps me out.

I think dirty talk sounds really nice/sexy if done by a male or female with a nice English accent!

Uch I know i am sounding silly but that's my reasons for not being able to do dirty talk.

Xx

vorian

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I was actually discussing this very topic just recently.

I am utterly crap at dirty talk. I think role play and dirty talk can only be done if someone is confident and not easily cringed out!

I cringe at the best of times, my accent makes me cringe. Ever heard a Glaswegian talk on the telly? Ever heard Rab C Nisbit on the telly? It's ROUGH!!! And so me trying to talk all sexy with my broad accent just creeps me out.

I think dirty talk sounds really nice/sexy if done by a male or female with a nice English accent!

Uch I know i am sounding silly but that's my reasons for not being able to do dirty talk.

Xx

The strange thing is many WG who have posted on this subject say the same thing it makes them cringe and they hate it. What I find interesting is why does it make them cringe as it would seem to be a service that would be in demand if it was done well. Also a skill that could be learnt a service that would be quite easy to perform if mastered particularly when compared to other services which are physically much more demanding.

One suggestion is the influence of porn in recent years both for the demand and fear from WG of this service. Of course any WG can provide or not any service they wish but this one does seem to create a nervous fear and lead to silly excuses for not providing the service.
« Last Edit: January 21, 2014, 12:39:08 am by vorian »

Kendra

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I agree that it could be really in demand if more were willing to offer it but putting the cringe factor to one side, maybe the ladies just aren't confident doing it.

For me it would be like public speaking, I'd forget what I am saying, mind goes blank, start stuttering and sound like a total freak so it defo ain't for me.

I think there ARE more escorts than you think though that will be happy to do it, it's not a service that can be ticked on an AW profile so if it's something that someone really wants then they will just have to ask in an email or over the phone to clarify rather than turn up expecting it only to be disappointed when the lady says no.

Xx

vorian

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I agree that it could be really in demand if more were willing to offer it but putting the cringe factor to one side, maybe the ladies just aren't confident doing it.

For me it would be like public speaking, I'd forget what I am saying, mind goes blank, start stuttering and sound like a total freak so it defo ain't for me.

I think there ARE more escorts than you think though that will be happy to do it, it's not a service that can be ticked on an AW profile so if it's something that someone really wants then they will just have to ask in an email or over the phone to clarify rather than turn up expecting it only to be disappointed when the lady says no.

Xx

I agree about the confidence about doing it but surely WG are on the whole not confident when starting out but they get better become more confident and gain new skills.  Also more tolerance,  that makes sense but the skill to confidently talk dirty without cringing or embarrassment does not seemed to develop at the same speed as other skills.

Kendra

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Agreed, same as the likes of domination and things like that can only be done if the lady providing those services is super confident in her own skin and super confident in that roll otherwise it can look totally naff!

Xx

vorian

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Agreed, same as the likes of domination and things like that can only be done if the lady providing those services is super confident in her own skin and super confident in that roll otherwise it can look totally naff!

Xx

So like dom work it could be considered a specialisation,  if so why do punters and WG not see it like that and as you said have a like box on AW. A specialisation will always earn more money so why not more WG have this skill. It is easier to do BDSM than talk dirty.  Seems strange.

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It is easy to do BDSM badly. But that is another topic. Regarding dirty talking, looks like it is going to remain one of life's great mysteries  ;)

vorian

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It is easy to do BDSM badly. But that is another topic. Regarding dirty talking, looks like it is going to remain one of life's great mysteries  ;)

Yep think you are right,  don't think we are going to move any further forward on this,  I going to take it to my regular and put it on the training plan for us to work on together. I just hate not knowing why something is like it is.  Oh well.

Kendra

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Maybe worth some of you AW members emailing AW with a suggestion about adding dirty talk as a like to escorts profiles? X

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Good idea Kendra although I suspect the number of requests would be too insignificant for AW to do anything about it.
However I have noticed on many girl's profiles that they write how they've got filthy mouth, so perhaps it is worth reading the text just to check.

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Ooops  think I've jumped a gun a bit, forgot we are talking about escorts mainly.

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Good idea Kendra although I suspect the number of requests would be too insignificant for AW to do anything about it.
However I have noticed on many girl's profiles that they write how they've got filthy mouth, so perhaps it is worth reading the text just to check.

Ah but a filthy mouth does not necessarily mean decent dirty talk.  It could just mean that every other word is a swear word.  To me a filthy mouth just means foul mouthed whereas if they put they love to talk dirty that would mean they are confident in talking that way or they think they are.
After all none of you want to hear an abusive stream of swearing or the old, fuck me baby. ohh harder baby, oh your cock is huge ram it in me baby which is what a lot of girls think is dirty talk and to me is like badly scripted porn.

Heck when I orgasm I swear normally fuck fuck fuck and shit shiiiiit and even then I apologise for using such language which normally gets a giggle from them.  I am quite well spoken normally until I orgasm and slip back into my west country accent  for a few seconds and it just sounds silly. 

I don't think it can be acted out either not really well anyway as the timing has to be just right for it to sound genuine so better to just leave it to those who genuinely let it out than to pretend and sound like a complete fake as you have said it at the wrong time for the punter

cjkanye02

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Turning it around, how good are the guys here at dirty talk? I would like to do it more but also feel like a bit of a twat!!

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Try this one     Lady Felicty Pinner

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GGs small frame brunette ENGLISH posh girl, saw her in Hemel Travel Lodge a few months ago.
"Give me what you`ve got - lets see it out ect.. "while squezzing your balls ..
A great girl I would reccomed and who spoke beautifully well I was well impressed with the way I was encourged to  paint those huge boobies. The little fella worked overtime covering the two huge boobs. A shower no rush and chat she mention finding a new base looks like this is it.

Offline akauya

Turning it around, how good are the guys here at dirty talk? I would like to do it more but also feel like a bit of a twat!!

Couldn't agree more!!


When I was at a party that was being filmed, all the punters were fucking quietly but the cameraman wanted porn style dirty talk from the men and lots of moaning from the girls etc. He kept egging the guys to talk dirty etc. no-one could convincingly do it. I think we all felt like twats. Made me realise those porn actors are good at acting after all :D



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vorian

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Turning it around, how good are the guys here at dirty talk? I would like to do it more but also feel like a bit of a twat!!

Probably terrible but as I'm paying I can be terrible at anything, the WG is the one who should be good at everything.

Scarlet Redd

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Dirty talk is something that has to be learned and practised a lot to get good at it. I enjoy dirty talk during sex (both giving and receiving) and love watching porn stars who are good at it too (Gianna Michaels is very good if you want to check her out.)

jcdmj12

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Turning it around, how good are the guys here at dirty talk? I would like to do it more but also feel like a bit of a twat!!

Very good, but would never do it with a girl I didn't know as my imagination is somewhat dark and she'd probably get the wrong idea and call the police.  I've found that quietly whispered filth has a far more powerful erotic effect than shouted obscenties.  One of the reasons I don't like US porn is that that "Yeah baby fuck me harder!" is so unconvincing.

Offline hockogrockle

I really dislike "dirty talk". It always sounds as though the woman has an out-of-control tape recorder stuck down her larynx, which is transmitting drivel. It just emphasises the fact that she is acting, and thinks spouting a load of crap will get me to hurry up. I am (perhaps unluckily) far too much of a gentleman to say "Oh for God's sake, shut up!"

vorian

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I really dislike "dirty talk". It always sounds as though the woman has an out-of-control tape recorder stuck down her larynx, which is transmitting drivel. It just emphasises the fact that she is acting, and thinks spouting a load of crap will get me to hurry up. I am (perhaps unluckily) far too much of a gentleman to say "Oh for God's sake, shut up!"

I have said it before so I will say it again, do you dislike "dirty talk" however it is done in your punt or do you dislike it because it is done so badly by the prossie. So if a WG was doing it "Well" would you still dislike it.  :unknown:

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Saw a WG through an Agency a couple of years ago. It wasn't the greatest punt. She looked a bit rough but had huge natural tits. She kept telling me to fuck her Yorkshire cunt whilst I was pounding away. It did the trick.

Rochdull lad

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Saw a WG through an Agency a couple of years ago. It wasn't the greatest punt. She looked a bit rough but had huge natural tits. She kept telling me to fuck her Yorkshire cunt whilst I was pounding away. It did the trick.

As a Lancastrian, I can imagine it would! :D