Prices up , quality down

[Guitartuna]

I know with the Covid19 thing times have been really tough for escorts and the massage parlours but from looking at the escort adverts online and the reviews on this site , it appears that prices are going up and the quality of service is really not there . Maybe it is just in my head but it seems to be a trend . Also if it is a thing , will it continue after lockdown?

[shagmore]

Yep, prices appear to be round the £150/hr for anything that looks hard decent, even the EE's prices are going up

[Half Century]

Hopefully once this lockdown is over, prices and knickers will have one thing in common...

[petermisc]

I know with the Covid19 thing times have been really tough for escorts and the massage parlours but from looking at the escort adverts online and the reviews on this site , it appears that prices are going up and the quality of service is really not there . Maybe it is just in my head but it seems to be a trend . Also if it is a thing , will it continue after lockdown?

There have been numerous threads complaining about prices rising due to covid19.  However, there have also been threads noting the increasing number of cheap 10-15 minute p&d options available for £20-30 in places like Brum.

There are the optimists who seem to think prices are going to drop once lockdown ends (lots of punters without much money and lots of girls desperate to make up for lost income).  On the other hand, all those WGs from EE aren't going to come flooding back as soon as our lockdown ends (probably not until the back end of this year, if we are lucky, looking at what is currently happening in EE).  There are also a lot of punters who have saved a lot of money during lockdown, and will be looking to splash the cash when lockdown ends.

I suspect that for the next year or so, prices will stay pretty much as now.  Unlikely that prices can drop any further at the cheap end of the market, while the cash-rich punters and shortage of EE girls will keep prices high at the top end of the market.

[southcoastpunter]

Personally i would rather pay a little more for a good looking lady and a good service so don't mind a liitle increase provided she has the right attitude.

And whilst no one wants to pay more than they have to, i think some guys need to keep a sense of perspective and reality. Some it seems want to fuck a 20ish year old super hottie who provides everything for £50 - not much more than you would spend on a pizza and pint in a restaurant these days! I know that if i was a 20 year old female hottie I wouldn't want someone like me fucking them for a mere £50 or £60!

[LLPunting]

Personally i would rather pay a little more for a good looking lady and a good service so don't mind a liitle increase provided she has the right attitude.

And whilst no one wants to pay more than they have to, i think some guys need to keep a sense of perspective and reality. Some it seems want to fuck a 20ish year old super hottie who provides everything for £50 - not much more than you would spend on a pizza and pint in a restaurant these days! I know that if i was a 20 year old female hottie I wouldn't want someone like me fucking them for a mere £50 or £60!

Perspective and reality!  How many people do you know on more than £60 ph ?  Utter fluffy simp nonsense you want to pay richly rewarded women even more money for what they've been doing for you before at a high rate of return.  Why not just fess up to your wife and tell her you've named your favourite as sole beneficiary of your estate?   

SPs putting up prices for no improvement in service, let alone a decrease in options, skill and attitude is simply gouging.

[Payyourwaymate]

Personally i would rather pay a little more for a good looking lady and a good service so don't mind a liitle increase provided she has the right attitude.

And whilst no one wants to pay more than they have to, i think some guys need to keep a sense of perspective and reality. Some it seems want to fuck a 20ish year old super hottie who provides everything for £50 - not much more than you would spend on a pizza and pint in a restaurant these days! I know that if i was a 20 year old female hottie I wouldn't want someone like me fucking them for a mere £50 or £60!

You sure? Apparently you can get that if you go on SA and pay £150-200 for a couple hours. Sometimes all they want is a date and takeaway too, apparently. I'm not on it so cannnot comment. Sounds like you are ready to pay through your nose for no reason  .

[southcoastpunter]

Perspective and reality!  How many people do you know on more than £60 ph ?  Utter fluffy simp nonsense you want to pay richly rewarded women even more money for what they've been doing for you before at a high rate of return.  Why not just fess up to your wife and tell her you've named your favourite as sole beneficiary of your estate?   

SPs putting up prices for no improvement in service, let alone a decrease in options, skill and attitude is simply gouging.

You are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. But it seems anyone who says something different to your opinion is talking "Utter fluffy simp nonsense". And i don't have a wife.

Perhaps you should read again what I wrote - " i would rather pay a LITTLE more for a good looking lady and a good service so don't mind a LITTLE increase PROVIDED SHE HAS THE RIGHT ATTITUDE.

I'lll repeat my view/opinion which was expressed as a question - so if you were a 20 year old hottie, you would be happy to fuck a bald fat guy who was older than your dad and maybe as old as your grandad for a lot less than most people spend on one good night out?

And fwiw, when punting, I have had a limit of £160ph which I have not gone over - despite the fact that in my area you get a very limited choice (except Roms). Good young Brits generally demand and get £180+.

You sure? Apparently you can get that if you go on SA and pay £150-200 for a couple hours. Sometimes all they want is a date and takeaway too, apparently. I'm not on it so cannnot comment. Sounds like you are ready to pay through your nose for no reason  .

I joined SA in early 2020 and have had some success on it - yes there are good ladies on there and currently have 2 on the go - both in the early/mid 20's, both overnights - one for £200, the other £250.

No I won't pay through the nose (I keep to my limits) and certainly not  for "no reason". But I don't expect to get a BMW for the price of a Ford Fiesta. (But I agree there is no direct correlation between price and good servicewhich is why i said i don't mind a little increase for good service)

[chadpitt]

Customers need to vote with their wallets and not just when it comes to punting. OnlySimps means women can make mad money from their bedrooms even below average lookers.

[Will2k]

Ah the economics supply demand equilibrium

[horneyboy1975]

I have to agree a lady asked 100 for half an hour . Had a wank instead .

[pa5151]

I have to agree a lady asked 100 for half an hour . Had a wank instead .

Nothing beats a good wank.

Banged a 19 year old SA girl a couple of days ago. Did have to pay for her uber back but what can you do. Imagine paying women for sex.

[patdavies]

Personally i would rather pay a little more for a good looking lady and a good service so don't mind a liitle increase provided she has the right attitude.

And whilst no one wants to pay more than they have to, i think some guys need to keep a sense of perspective and reality. Some it seems want to fuck a 20ish year old super hottie who provides everything for £50 - not much more than you would spend on a pizza and pint in a restaurant these days! I know that if i was a 20 year old female hottie I wouldn't want someone like me fucking them for a mere £50 or £60!

You cant be that bad brother 
also where are you getting your pizzas and pints

[LLPunting]

You are entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. But it seems anyone who says something different to your opinion is talking "Utter fluffy simp nonsense". And i don't have a wife.

Perhaps you should read again what I wrote - " i would rather pay a LITTLE more for a good looking lady and a good service so don't mind a LITTLE increase PROVIDED SHE HAS THE RIGHT ATTITUDE.

I'lll repeat my view/opinion which was expressed as a question - so if you were a 20 year old hottie, you would be happy to fuck a bald fat guy who was older than your dad and maybe as old as your grandad for a lot less than most people spend on one good night out?

And fwiw, when punting, I have had a limit of £160ph which I have not gone over - despite the fact that in my area you get a very limited choice (except Roms). Good young Brits generally demand and get £180+.


I joined SA in early 2020 and have had some success on it - yes there are good ladies on there and currently have 2 on the go - both in the early/mid 20's, both overnights - one for £200, the other £250.

No I won't pay through the nose (I keep to my limits) and certainly not  for "no reason". But I don't expect to get a BMW for the price of a Ford Fiesta. (But I agree there is no direct correlation between price and good servicewhich is why i said i don't mind a little increase for good service)

So despite having a "hard" limit on what you're willing to pay for sex you are willing to encourage women you enjoy the services of to charge you more for the same services, up to that limit?  Is this a one time deal or an annual inflation?

Just because a woman is willing to have sex with an "unattractive" man for money does not make her worth idolising. 

Whether she's a barebacking "skank" doing 10 a day @ £50 a pop, 5/7 cos she's civilised after all, for 2500 a week = 125k pa equivalent
OR she's a cheap agency girl doing 4/day @ 150 a pop, 5/7 cos she gotta shop, for 3k/wk = 150k pa
OR she's an "elite" doing 2/day @ 400 ea for 200k pa
OR she's a "courtesan" doing 1/day @ 1000 for 250k pa
OR she's only doing 50% of this amount of business

They may do business in expensive London but they're more often than not from homes where cost of living is significantly cheaper and property even more so.

They are ALL making plenty more money than most punters, and you want to encourage them, at whatever level of attractiveness, to charge more?

[Whiteknight]

It's certainly is getting more and more expensive in recent years.

In Brighton and Hove, any young British will be £200PH, even the over 30 are asking £160 to 180PH.

[Whiteknight]

Also quality and services offered are less and less nowadays.

[SamOmar]

I'm seriously not understanding punters who think prices have gone up, whilst I agree quality has gone down from when I first started punting 13 years ago. Every single punt I have had since last March has been priced at the same level to 2019. One lady has significantly reduced her rates.

I may be oblivious to European escorts but I have always punted mainly Thais. I paid 150ph in 2007 (all inclusive) and pay 140ph in Central London in 2021 (all inclusive). That is 14 years of less Thai SPs, rougher exchange rates and inflation.

[Atlas1957]

I've also not experienced price creep.  I'm paying the same in 2021 as I did in 2020 and 2019.

Maybe paying £10 more in some specific circumstances (they were too cheap before and are realising that now).

I've also had a few WGs raise their prices and then drop them back down when they realised that wouldn't work.

The only place I've seen price creep is the NW review section.

[Payyourwaymate]

I'm seriously not understanding punters who think prices have gone up, whilst I agree quality has gone down from when I first started punting 13 years ago. Every single punt I have had since last March has been priced at the same level to 2019. One lady has significantly reduced her rates.

I may be oblivious to European escorts but I have always punted mainly Thais. I paid 150ph in 2007 (all inclusive) and pay 140ph in Central London in 2021 (all inclusive). That is 14 years of less Thai SPs, rougher exchange rates and inflation.

It's depending which segment of WGs you see. From what I've noticed in london, it seems like a higher proportion of indie WGs have increased prices and I have seen more extras being added on instead of being included in the price so you are looking to spend closer to £200+ for an hour with everything which is practically "Mid-high end" agency base level prices in london. With brothels and parlours prices have remained the same. With pricey agencies like diva I've seen more women placed in the £250+ categories and still have extras that you would have to pay more money for, whilst some like palacevip are charging £300+ like it's no mans business. I can't speak for other areas though.

[petermisc]

I'm seriously not understanding punters who think prices have gone up, whilst I agree quality has gone down from when I first started punting 13 years ago.
I may be oblivious to European escorts but I have always punted mainly Thais. I paid 150ph in 2007 (all inclusive) and pay 140ph in Central London in 2021 (all inclusive). That is 14 years of less Thai SPs, rougher exchange rates and inflation.

Not that many years ago, the standard agency price in London for an hour was £150.  There are very few agency girls left at that rate now, £200 per hour had become the new normal pre covid and is trending to £250 now.  But the Asian agencies are the big exception, where £150 an hour is still the normal (with £10 regulars discount).  So if you punt mainly Thais you have probably not noticed the prices rising elsewhere.

The other thing that I have found particularly noticeable is that things that previously were included in the hourly rate, are now priced extra.  Again, the Asian agencies seem to be the exception.

[southcoastpunter]

So despite having a "hard" limit on what you're willing to pay for sex you are willing to encourage women you enjoy the services of to charge you more

They are ALL making plenty more money than most punters, and you want to encourage them, at whatever level of attractiveness, to charge more?

No I am NOT encouraging them to charge us more.

This thread is headed  "prices up, quality down" - i merely said that I don't mind paying a LITTLE more for an attractive lady who HAS THE RIGHT ATTITUDE (ie provides a quality service).

That is my opinion and I am entitled to it  - as you are entitled to yours. We probably won't agree (and in my book that is ok, we don't have to agree about everything)  so this is my last comment about it!

[smiths]

I'm seriously not understanding punters who think prices have gone up, whilst I agree quality has gone down from when I first started punting 13 years ago. Every single punt I have had since last March has been priced at the same level to 2019. One lady has significantly reduced her rates.

I may be oblivious to European escorts but I have always punted mainly Thais. I paid 150ph in 2007 (all inclusive) and pay 140ph in Central London in 2021 (all inclusive). That is 14 years of less Thai SPs, rougher exchange rates and inflation.

Many many A/W WGs in my area have increased their prices recently, and also many new WGs going on their profiles are starting out charging high to me prices which is £150 an hour or more. These WGs are mainly EE WGs who I mainly punt with. And in fact a noticeable change in my area is virtually all WGs except some Poles, some Hungarians and some Romanians have increased their rates. So previously in my area Bulgarian WGs were the same price as those 3 nationalities often, now they are more. And some of those 3 have also increased their rates. No WG I have punted with has reduced her rates, its all been upward, or the same with a few regulars who were already charging £140 an hour.

Quality wise its poor overall in my view now which is where UKP and knowing other punters can help a lot, unless like me you choose to take a risk in search of a gem sometimes.

[bobby_dizzler]

£80 or £90 seems to be the new half hour price, with £150 for the hour. Personally I'm not sure I'd ever stretch to £90 for 30 mins, never mind about £100.

[LLPunting]

It's depending which segment of WGs you see. From what I've noticed in london, it seems like a higher proportion of indie WGs have increased prices and I have seen more extras being added on instead of being included in the price so you are looking to spend closer to £200+ for an hour with everything which is practically "Mid-high end" agency base level prices in london. With brothels and parlours prices have remained the same. With pricey agencies like diva I've seen more women placed in the £250+ categories and still have extras that you would have to pay more money for, whilst some like palacevip are charging £300+ like it's no mans business. I can't speak for other areas though.

Totally this.
Also as most/all reputable Thai agencies typically have a single price tariff there's no moving girls up the tiers.  The Thai SPs know that making lots of money is better done by seeing more customers, not charging more to fewer.  3@150 is better than 2@200 for the same amount of time elapsed of the day working and waiting. 
Chipping upward at a tenner a time might drag some customers with them but regular punters will feel the pinch.  And whilst occasional punters might still be able to afford a punt they may well look at the sticker price and think is she really worth that much, particularly in an online retail context.
If the girls actually did something to justify the increase it might be acceptable but as this thread implies the market is awash with girls who are merely chancers and cheats rather than genuine service providers.  I'm sure it's also messing up the game for the "honest" SPs.