Concerned I'm getting too dirty.

[Crockers]

Last year on WA, I fucked up six girls.

Some were vanilla, some were very pse, some were inbetween.

This month, I'm turning girls down as they say they are only vanilla.

Am I cutting myself off from good sexual experiences by only looking for dirty girls?

For example, anal, drinking each pthers piss, choking, deep throat etc?

Last week I met a young, slim, petite Black British London girl.

Really sweet, short skirt, silky tights.

She gave me a shy kiss.

I told her what I liked to do in bed - I like to manage both our expectations, as everything is consensual.

She went quiet, then said she was happy to try watersports only, but not drinking it.

She then said she was happy to go to bed with me straightaway, for a very reasonable £250.

I turned her down.

And asked her to come back to me if she changed her mind.

We walked back to the station in silence and went our separate ways.

Is my requirement for pse type girls stopping me from being a sexual 'allrounder'?

That I'm missing out on perfectly good sex with vanilla type girls?

Or am I right in holding out?

I've been reflecting on this for a whole week.

What do you lot think?

[signy]

In my experience, these things go in phases. Get the PSE/extreme PSE out of your system for a while, and you will probably start to look for something different, whether it be back to GFE or a new activity like BDSM.

For example, I used to regularly see TS escorts, but over recent years these have tailed off completely as I am no longer so interested.

[Dipper]

I think good vanilla sex is hard enough to get, either civvy or paid for. Without adding fetishes to the mix.

[Payyourwaymate]

Porn has influenced you too much and has changed your dopamine tolerance hits. Plain sex will not do it for you anymore, lay off the "hardcore" porn tbh it rewires you how you see pleasure.  Just mix it up or take a break and see how you feel.

[akauya]

Porn has influenced you too much and has changed your dopamine tolerance hits. Plain sex will not do it for you anymore, lay off the "hardcore" porn tbh it rewires you how you see pleasure.  Just mix it up or take a break and see how you feel.

This was my first thought when I read the OP's post too.

Good advice not only for the OP but for many addicted to porn.

[Atrueyorkie]

Porn has influenced you too much and has changed your dopamine tolerance hits. Plain sex will not do it for you anymore, lay off the "hardcore" porn tbh it rewires you how you see pleasure.  Just mix it up or take a break and see how you feel.

Agree with this statement.

The more you consistently do something the more that “high” can wear off and you now need to go a more extreme or try something “new”.

A slippery rope if done wrong.

I try and keep my punts as vanilla as possible for that reason

[FLYING BLUE]

What is WA?

Excuse my ignorance.

[Trpy]

What is WA?

Excuse my ignorance.

Assume he means AW

[hendrix]

I don't indulge in vanilla. I only want fairly extreme pse and I'm happy to pay whatever it takes to get it. I'll compromise in duos/trios/whatever as long as at least some of the girls provide extreme pse.

I don't see it as a problem at all, yes, there aren't many who can fulfill all my requirements, but I'd rather not punt than pay for a bj and a shag.

Good points others have made about porn addiction, and I'm sure that's the case with me, but in my circumstances that's not really a problem either.

[southern punter]

Last week I met a young, slim, petite Black British London girl.

Really sweet, short skirt, silky tights.

She gave me a shy kiss.

I told her what I liked to do in bed - I like to manage both our expectations, as everything is consensual.

She went quiet, then said she was happy to try watersports only, but not drinking it.

She then said she was happy to go to bed with me straightaway, for a very reasonable £250.

I turned her down.

I can easily imagine looking back in a year or ten and regretting not shagging someone when I had the chance.

I cannot imagine looking back in a year or ten and regretting the fact I 'only' shagged some hottie without any piss drinking, 'what a waste of my time that was'.

But YMMV

[PumpDump]

You have to put yourself in the girls mind. She meets some unknown guy from the internet and he wants to do some extreme things on first meet. She is probably wondering if she is going to get out of the hotel room alive.

I think you could be ruling out girls who will be more open to doing more extreme sex when they are comfortable with you. Some girls will be more open to trying things when they are turned on, things they would not consider or want to talk about outside the bedroom.

[hendrix]

You have to put yourself in the girls mind. She meets some unknown guy from the internet and he wants to do some extreme things on first meet. She is probably wondering if she is going to get out of the hotel room alive.

I think you could be ruling out girls who will be more open to doing more extreme sex when they are comfortable with you. Some girls will be more open to trying things when they are turned on, things they would not consider or want to talk about outside the bedroom.

Yes, spot on. Even seasoned WG's who've heard it all before may allow for more extreme activities once they know you're not Fred West.

[shed]

Assume he means AW

Be good if the OP confirmed. He talks about walking back to the station 🚉 so presume he met her outside in the public arena. And then with intention of going to a hotel. Or am I missing something there 🤔

[southern punter]

The anecdote sounds more SA than AW

[Billy no mates]

The anecdote sounds more SA than AW

I thought the same.

[tesla]

The anecdote sounds more SA than AW

A and S are adjacent on the keyboard, so its a miss key or a reversal of the abbreviation

[Crockers]

Thanks for the replies.

Apologies. I meant SA. Was in a rush as had to go to work, and no time to proof read properly.

Just to clarify, I don't watch a lot of porn.  Haven't done so for months. When I do, it's a mix of all types.

Just that all the girls, bar a couple, that I've seen since last Autumn have all been dirty and British. The two gfe ones
have been Polish.

In hindsight I do regret turning her down last week.

On the other hand, spoke with another SA girl last night. Shy, slim, White student who wants someone to help her realise her full potential sexually.

Of I said yes.

I'll go with the flow with her.

Think I've just got used to being a Dom with girls.

Thoughtful replies and food for thought.

Sex is so much fun, isn't it! 😀

[Stevelondon]

Go with the flow.
You got that bit right for sure and I think it’s the correct move to be honest.

We do what we like surely, or hopefully might be the better word to use.

Hendrix has his requirements and although they may not be something I look for………… I think I would be at serious risk of a heart attack if I did 
Good luck to the fella.

I seem to have slotted into a comfort zone at the moment. I’m certainly not paying as much yearly as I used too. For a punt I mean. It’s nowt to do with financial reasons either. I blame it on old age. 

Yes……… flow going….. sounds ok to me. 👍🏻

[stewpid]

Its a good question and topic as it's certainly something on my mind at the moment with my punting.

I started out as just a GFE type of seeker but have developed a taste for harder sex encounters and love to be a dom with girls with regards to choking etc. This has obviously been influenced by porn and me wanting to try new things but I do wonder where it's leading me. However I still mix it up and have a regular I see for for very slow sensual sex and find that can also be as intense but just in a different way and still have other punts that don't involve any rough stuff beyond a little bit of pounding at times.

Strangely I've also found some punts will naturally lean into rough areas even if I don't expect it from the girl. Saw a girl a couple of weeks ago that I just expected a kind of straight forward GFE from with nothing more extreme than maybe some reciprocal rimming and the extra of anal if I wanted, given intel from other reviews, but when we got to fucking it turned into to some pretty hard choking at her sole encouragement. Totally unexpected and not asked for but obviously I enjoyed. 

[Colston36]

Last year on WA, I fucked up six girls.

Some were vanilla, some were very pse, some were inbetween.

This month, I'm turning girls down as they say they are only vanilla.

Am I cutting myself off from good sexual experiences by only looking for dirty girls?

For example, anal, drinking each pthers piss, choking, deep throat etc?

Last week I met a young, slim, petite Black British London girl.

Really sweet, short skirt, silky tights.

She gave me a shy kiss.

I told her what I liked to do in bed - I like to manage both our expectations, as everything is consensual.

She went quiet, then said she was happy to try watersports only, but not drinking it.

She then said she was happy to go to bed with me straightaway, for a very reasonable £250.

I turned her down.

And asked her to come back to me if she changed her mind.

We walked back to the station in silence and went our separate ways.

Is my requirement for pse type girls stopping me from being a sexual 'allrounder'?

That I'm missing out on perfectly good sex with vanilla type girls?

Or am I right in holding out?

I've been reflecting on this for a whole week.

What do you lot think?

I like quite extreme things and see no reason to settle for what I don't like. It seems stupid.

Why pay for less than you want?

[ulstersubbie]

I like quite extreme things and see no reason to settle for what I don't like. It seems stupid.

+1

[Brand242]

I don't indulge in vanilla. I only want fairly extreme pse and I'm happy to pay whatever it takes to get it. I'll compromise in duos/trios/whatever as long as at least some of the girls provide extreme pse.

I don't see it as a problem at all, yes, there aren't many who can fulfill all my requirements, but I'd rather not punt than pay for a bj and a shag.

Good points others have made about porn addiction, and I'm sure that's the case with me, but in my circumstances that's not really a problem either.

Second this, and also Crockers responses, as I appear to fall into this category. Could be a good point on the porn thing, but I also think some have gone too far with that assumption…I don’t watch much porn, but what I do know is what I like…and I like to find like minded women to have great sessions with. When tastes are very specific, this can take time as it’s important both enjoy these types of services. In many of my meetings it’s been the SP that comes up with new ideas as she’s getting so into it…it’s just finding that open minded connection.

So the only advice I’d give is:

- keep up the search but be patient
- stay close to your trusted SP’s to ensure there’s an option while the search for new like minded connections continues
- don’t read too much into the “too much porn” comments

Good luck with your search and enjoy your future sessions. As someone that enjoys many of the services you list (with some exceptions), I know the feeling when you find a real match.

[pantywetter]

My feeling is that drinking pee for instance is going to be so niche that 99% of girls will say no.
Try to find it by all means, but it’s punting on hard mode.

[here4fun22]

This has been my concern for a while, not much of a porn watcher but just a general degen. It gets me down at times, as i love anal and watersports, snowballing, and lots more filth but trying to find a women that is into all of it is a struggle!!

WG is my area are very limited and general women in the public are limited!!

[rubric]

I like quite extreme things and see no reason to settle for what I don't like. It seems stupid.

Why pay for less than you want?

I agree, but OTOH the dynamics in a SA/SB situation are different to that of visiting a WG and in the former situation you are going to have to work up to some things as you get more comfortable with each other.

[S.X. MacHine]

Woody Allen was once asked if sex was dirty. After reflection he replied, ‘Yes. If done properly’.
I passed the point of wanting GFE meets some years ago. Now I’m looking for kink, specifically BDSM kink involving girls who take a fairly severe paddling or caning; and more besides.
As submissive, masochistic girls are few (at least in Scotland, they are), I find myself choosing from a limited repertoire of regular deviants who combine lifestyle with financial gain.
While such an arrangement is unlikely to appeal to most punters, it works very well for me.

[Stevelondon]

Woody Allen was once asked if sex was dirty. After reflection he replied, ‘Yes. If done properly’.
I passed the point of wanting GFE meets some years ago. Now I’m looking for kink, specifically BDSM kink involving girls who take a fairly severe paddling or caning; and more besides.
As submissive, masochistic girls are few (at least in Scotland, they are), I find myself choosing from a limited repertoire of regular deviants who combine lifestyle with financial gain.
While such an arrangement is unlikely to appeal to most punters, it works very well for me.

We are always making arrangements in our punting lives. It’s what appeals to us that keeps us punting 👍🏻

[pantywetter]

Woody Allen was once asked if sex was dirty. After reflection he replied, ‘Yes. If done properly’.
I passed the point of wanting GFE meets some years ago. Now I’m looking for kink, specifically BDSM kink involving girls who take a fairly severe paddling or caning; and more besides.
As submissive, masochistic girls are few (at least in Scotland, they are), I find myself choosing from a limited repertoire of regular deviants who combine lifestyle with financial gain.
While such an arrangement is unlikely to appeal to most punters, it works very well for me.

It’s strange because I never got bored of GFE and fairly vanilla session even 20 years in.

I’ve tried pretty much everything there is to try, but at the end of the day I always go back to the standard playbook!

[badsin]

It's the girls on SA that are the real deviant's, certainly lead me astray 

[mikhail]

I quite like a meet with some dom/sub and bdsm to change things about.  I've done quite a lot of SB/SD meets in the past 18mths and meet a few girls into that side of things although I always make sure I sound the girls out if they're up for something like this and wouldn't ask when I'm meeting them in person like the OP has.  Saves a lot of time.  Some who are unsure/inexperienced I would suggest a vanilla meet to start with to build up some trust.  Same with escort meets.

[Crockers]

Been thinking about this.

Another slim, black girl only interested in 'sensual sex' from SA who backed out on meeting me as I told her what I wanted just WApped me.

She wished me well and to get back in touch if I changed my mind.

I'd wished her the same a week or so ago.

So thought I'd be a mug for not seeing her, as we'd clicked online. And she also only wants £250 for a few hours.

Arranging a time and date to meet.

Hey, why not?  😀

As someone earlier said, build up trust and train her up.

[JustaPunter]

Been thinking about this.

Another slim, black girl only interested in 'sensual sex' from SA who backed out on meeting me as I told her what I wanted just WApped me.

She wished me well and to get back in touch if I changed my mind.

I'd wished her the same a week or so ago.

So thought I'd be a mug for not seeing her, as we'd clicked online. And she also only wants £250 for a few hours.

Arranging a time and date to meet.

Hey, why not?  😀

As someone earlier said, build up trust and train her up.

I don’t think they meant build up trust and then train her up to do things she has already said she isn’t comfortable with.

[Crockers]

Been thinking about this.

Another slim, black girl only interested in 'sensual sex' from SA who backed out on meeting me as I told her what I wanted just WApped me.

She wished me well and to get back in touch if I changed my mind.

I'd wished her the same a week or so ago.

So thought I'd be a mug for not seeing her, as we'd clicked online. And she also only wants £250 for a few hours.

Arranging a time and date to meet.

Hey, why not?  😀

As someone earlier said, build up trust and train her up.

Everything is consensual. Plus she's confident. Got a date in the diary.

Have to say, the anticipation is really erotic.

[alabama1]

Been thinking about this.

Another slim, black girl only interested in 'sensual sex' from SA who backed out on meeting me as I told her what I wanted just WApped me.

She wished me well and to get back in touch if I changed my mind.

I'd wished her the same a week or so ago.

So thought I'd be a mug for not seeing her, as we'd clicked online. And she also only wants £250 for a few hours.

Arranging a time and date to meet.

Hey, why not?  😀

As someone earlier said, build up trust and train her up.

She's not a bloody performing seal 

[Crockers]

We all can't stay in our comfort zones.

Anyway, seeing her tomorrow.

Said she's willing to experiment a bit.

Gonna be fun!

🙂

[Captainhowdy666]

Too extreme ?
A trans 3some.

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[Southernbloke]

Too extreme ?
A trans 3some.

External Link/Members Only

Christ !!!! I’m scared

[Captainhowdy666]

Christ !!!! I’m scared

I’m intrigued

[rubric]

Everything is consensual. Plus she's confident. Got a date in the diary.

Have to say, the anticipation is really erotic.

Not to get precious, but I assume people are picking up on:

Another slim, black girl only interested in 'sensual sex' from SA who backed out on meeting me as I told her what I wanted just WApped me.

She wished me well and to get back in touch if I changed my mind.