Any punters here under 30'?

[Payyourwaymate]

I'm under 30 too but i don't want punting to be my only access to women for the rest of my life.

Men compete for woman, we always have, throughout all of time, i don't understand why people are shocked that we still have to do this. Sure it's not the same as it was 10 or 20 years ago but neither are house prices or the job market. Competition will always increase as the population does, as people become more educated and make more money. Things change, we must adapt, we improve and we keep trying.

You sound a bit blackpilled to me and i don't think we have to be so negative about the dating market, sure it's a bit of a minefield out there but a negative mind can never produce a positive result.

If you don't like dating apps try using instagram, post some sick photos of you doing cool shit, traveling to cool places, going hard in the gym, show you're fun and exciting to be around. Then shoot your shot in the dms. If it doesn't work out, move on to the next one. It's a number game for sure but at the end of the day it won't cost you anything to try and you could do it while sitting at home watching tv. And if you hate all types of online dating, when things open back up, hit a few bars in shoreditch or soho and just talk to woman face to face.

In terms of time and money, yes punting is better value but not by much. Taking a girl out for drinks is what £60 plus an uber back to your or her place maybe £20. Setting up the date can be long but it can also be streamlined if you ask her out as soon as possible, don't spend weeks talking to her. I only use texting for logistics. Plus where the real value is in dating is in repeat sex. Pulling one girl may take some effort but you could go on to smash her multiple times in the future, not just for 30mins or an hour but all night every week if you have the energy.

You don't have to jump through any hoops if you don't want to, if a girl is not responsive to your advances, quickly move on to the next one. If she's longing you off over text, move on to the next one. If she's making you wait for sex past the 2nd date, move on to the next one. You don't have to put up with anyone's shitty behaviour if you don't want to.

I understand what you are saying. I don't have a problem with the idea of men competing to get girls. I won't do it though. I'm not a fan of going by games which are not on favourable terms on my side, especially with diminishing returns. It does not make sense to me. I have no pride or ego attached to successfully getting girls, I released that the moment I fully came to terms with paying. I only care about having access to sex in the most efficient way possible at my convenience and my terms. Dating is not an efficient way of getting sex on my terms. Sure, I could do it and get civvy girls but I'm not looking for companionship or a netflix and chill to spend time and have sex, I only want sex, big difference. If there is an easy way to get something I'll take it, it makes no sense to struggle if you do not have to. I've seen and experienced how much time guys spend on getting girls, as you get older it gets long. There are more important things to deal with than trying to show someone how cool I am and they should let me clap cheeks. Streamlining sex through paying allows me to focus on more important matters, it's not that serious to me.


It's the time and effort spent that matters to me, not the quality of women about or competition. Add up of the time and effort you've spent chasing girls or your friends and think what they could have done instead that would have produced better benefits over the long term instead of a short term nut.

Obviously my views are extreme, I understand that. Please understand the distinction that I am talking about sex alone, not the emotional interactions of dating, spending time, having sex and the thrill of getting girls. If I wanted to do that then I would go on apps or chat to civvy girls in person and do what is necessary to get that but for me personally it's not worth my time to do that versus other pressing matters, like finding a way to make serious ££££££ or bettering myself in some way or another. I don't have time to play a numbers game, I'm not 18 or 21 anymore lol.

[Ben1983]

I’m in my 30’s, but I did START under 30 - about 24/25.

Punting has been a game changer for me.
I’m happily single, and arrange meets when I feel the urge.

When I first started, I did get carried away, and punted more than I could afford.
I quickly put a stop to that, and I started to put some money away each month into my punting fund.
If there’s money in there; spend away!

The other thing that has been a game changer is growing the confidence to walk away from dating.
If I’m dating someone and I’m being taken for a fool, I’ll walk away.
Before punting, I wouldn’t. I would of stayed, seeing her as my only option, and to end up getting hurt in the process.

[puntingpumping1920]

Pubs and clubs are closed too so hard to pick up a lady.

I miss the nights out in Mayfair

When clubs/ bars open I will probably dial back my punting

[tynetunnel]

I'm under 30 too but i don't want punting to be my only access to women for the rest of my life.

Men compete for woman, we always have, throughout all of time, i don't understand why people are shocked that we still have to do this. Sure it's not the same as it was 10 or 20 years ago but neither are house prices or the job market. Competition will always increase as the population does, as people become more educated and make more money. Things change, we must adapt, we improve and we keep trying.

You sound a bit blackpilled to me and i don't think we have to be so negative about the dating market, sure it's a bit of a minefield out there but a negative mind can never produce a positive result.

If you don't like dating apps try using instagram, post some sick photos of you doing cool shit, traveling to cool places, going hard in the gym, show you're fun and exciting to be around. Then shoot your shot in the dms. If it doesn't work out, move on to the next one. It's a number game for sure but at the end of the day it won't cost you anything to try and you could do it while sitting at home watching tv. And if you hate all types of online dating, when things open back up, hit a few bars in shoreditch or soho and just talk to woman face to face.

In terms of time and money, yes punting is better value but not by much. Taking a girl out for drinks is what £60 plus an uber back to your or her place maybe £20. Setting up the date can be long but it can also be streamlined if you ask her out as soon as possible, don't spend weeks talking to her. I only use texting for logistics. Plus where the real value is in dating is in repeat sex. Pulling one girl may take some effort but you could go on to smash her multiple times in the future, not just for 30mins or an hour but all night every week if you have the energy.

You don't have to jump through any hoops if you don't want to, if a girl is not responsive to your advances, quickly move on to the next one. If she's longing you off over text, move on to the next one. If she's making you wait for sex past the 2nd date, move on to the next one. You don't have to put up with anyone's shitty behaviour if you don't want to.

And they say romance is dead? 

[signy]

Great to see so many young punters on the site. When I am old and in my Bath chair I will enjoy reading about your continuing exploits.

[mace-window]

And they say romance is dead? 

I know right  . This guy rowdow sounds like PUA who don't like guys seeing escorts majority of the time instead wasting their time trying to pull random girls at the bar or club to take home and do the deed. 

[rowdow]

And they say romance is dead? 

We're literally on a forum for guys to post reviews about seeing escorts...

I know right  . This guy rowdow sounds like PUA who don't like guys seeing escorts majority of the time instead wasting their time trying to pull random girls at the bar or club to take home and do the deed.

Every guy on here is in this game for different reasons. Some guys like to date, some guys like to punt and some do both. I understand why some guys just like to punt, Payyourwaymate made some great and rational points, as so did others.

I like going to bars, dancing at clubs, listening to live music, getting pissed and a bit wild with my mates and chatting up a few birds when possible. That's not everyone's cup of tea, that's just how i like to spend my time. What you think is a waste of time, others might enjoy doing. Each to their own.

[mace-window]

We're literally on a forum for guys to post reviews about seeing escorts...


Every guy on here is in this game for different reasons. Some guys like to date, some guys like to punt and some do both. I understand why some guys just like to punt, Payyourwaymate made some great and rational points, as so did others.

I like going to bars, dancing at clubs, listening to live music, getting pissed and a bit wild with my mates and chatting up a few birds when possible. That's not everyone's cup of tea, that's just how i like to spend my time. What you think is a waste of time, others might enjoy doing. Each to their own.

From what you posted here, it seem to me that you want to compete for women by validation from opposite sex and having "free" sex. And that's the problem that me and payyourwaymate have as sex is rarely free. And instead of having an Instagram account, doing cool shit, traveling to cool places, going hard in the gym and etc... for your own pleasure, you doing all this to maybe impress a random girl who might let you fuck her. And yes that is a waste of time as you pointed out earlier it's a numbers game hence you have to try and talk to multiple girls till you talk to girl 120 who will let you smash her multiple times in the future, not just for 30mins or an hour but all night every week if you have the energy. Let not forget about dealing with rejection over and over again is not fun for most people especially when your against a uphill battle that is so unfair.

I would understand id this was a goal to be a sport star, millionaire of a business and etc.. but putting all that effort for some sexual release just sounds desperate. And of course it will cost you more than £80. Think about it, new decent cloths, maybe buying some fragrance, getting a hair cut before the date and new shoes will add up to same price are WG charging £130 - £200 per hour by the time you leave the door of the restaurant and returning home by yourself in a taxi after your 5th date with her. And depending on the girl you date, the restaurants or bars you go to may have to be a high end bar/restaurant if you want to impress the typical very attractive/model look, well reviewed WG look equivalent civve lady that many punters see (especially those travel companion WG's that have their own online website).

Some of use don't want to do the monkey dance and some of us do enjoy doing cool shit, traveling to cool places, going hard in the gym and etc for our own reasons not to impress some girl - and not that is not blackpilled. By all means do you and enjoy chasing girls. But don't fool yourself thinking competing to get girls with minimal results is not a waste of time.

A video by think before you sleep has some good points of chasing girls or PUA's to be more accurate: External Link/Members Only.

[extraa]

All of the "young" lads in our office go on about shagging whooores. Plenty of stories told of trips to Munich and the Dam.

One of the lasses has admitted to an Insta profile and onlyfans.

All are under 30.

29 myself. That's the strange thing with my friends - a lot admit to doing it in Amsterdam but it's unheard of to consider it in the UK. They're loss when pre-covid they'd be spending £100+ on nights out and still not end up with a shag after it.

[rowdow]

From what you posted here, it seem to me that you want to compete for women by validation from opposite sex and having "free" sex. And that's the problem that me and payyourwaymate have as sex is rarely free. And instead of having an Instagram account, doing cool shit, traveling to cool places, going hard in the gym and etc... for your own pleasure, you doing all this to maybe impress a random girl who might let you fuck her. And yes that is a waste of time as you pointed out earlier it's a numbers game hence you have to try and talk to multiple girls till you talk to girl 120 who will let you smash her multiple times in the future, not just for 30mins or an hour but all night every week if you have the energy. Let not forget about dealing with rejection over and over again is not fun for most people especially when your against a uphill battle that is so unfair.

I would understand id this was a goal to be a sport star, millionaire of a business and etc.. but putting all that effort for some sexual release just sounds desperate. And of course it will cost you more than £80. Think about it, new decent cloths, maybe buying some fragrance, getting a hair cut before the date and new shoes will add up to same price are WG charging £130 - £200 per hour by the time you leave the door of the restaurant and returning home by yourself in a taxi after your 5th date with her. And depending on the girl you date, the restaurants or bars you go to may have to be a high end bar/restaurant if you want to impress the typical very attractive/model look, well reviewed WG look equivalent civve lady that many punters see (especially those travel companion WG's that have their own online website).

Some of use don't want to do the monkey dance and some of us do enjoy doing cool shit, traveling to cool places, going hard in the gym and etc for our own reasons not to impress some girl - and not that is not blackpilled. By all means do you and enjoy chasing girls. But don't fool yourself thinking competing to get girls with minimal results is not a waste of time.

A video by think before you sleep has some good points of chasing girls or PUA's to be more accurate: External Link/Members Only.

Like i posted before "i don't want punting to be my only access to women for the rest of my life". If you do that's cool. Life your life.

I buy nice clothes, nice shoes, nice fragrances and get regular haircuts because my parents raised me to always be presentable wherever i go in life. I have only ever taken girls out for drinks at trendy bars, not high end places and definitely not restaurants. I only ever do 2 dates max then i move on if nothing develops further. I promise you i've done the maths, pound for pound it costs the same.

Like most people i post what i do in my life online mainly for my friends, whether it's travel, sets in the gym...etc

Whether it's a waste of time is as matter of opinion. I like dating, i spending time with girls, i like the validation and i want kids at some point in my life. Of course they'll be rejection from some girls, you don't score every time you shoot but i'm happy to play this "unfair" game in this "unfair" world. People have all kinds of expensive hobbies that they do which have no return on investment, some play golf, go skiing, race cars, video games and others like to paint.

I'm not a PUA, I just shared my opinion on what works for me. I actually wrote that I want guys to punt, it has many benefits.

Punting is like a superpower and should be used as such when dating. When you punt you have an abundance mindset, an edge over guys who don't. That gives you a certain mindset when dating, it allows you to walk away from girls who waste your time. You know full well you're not desperate for sex because you can get it within an hour after a few texts. This can be used as confidence when approaching girls, why worry if she doesn't take to your advances or the date goes south, she's not your only option for sex.

We want different things out of life. Everyone is free to "waste" their time in whichever way they please.

[mace-window]

Like i posted before "i don't want punting to be my only access to women for the rest of my life". If you do that's cool. Life your life.

We want different things out of life. Everyone is free to "waste" their time in whichever way they please.

Agreed.

[J198]

I'm 22 started about a year ago when I was 21 I'm happy I didn't wait until I was older because this really suits me. Also I love that I can fuck milfs as well as its not something that would happen in my regular life.

[drillaaaa]

28

Amongst my friends some of us do it, not to the extent i do tho (getting up reviews on whores etc) but few of us do it sparingly.

[Iceman90]

I’m 30, first punted back in my early 20s when I was single. Got into a relationship and didn’t have money for it anyway until very recently. I’m happy with my girl, but she is very vanilla and I get off on kinky things like BDSM and TS girls so punting is a way for me to fulfil my desires but also stay in a happy relationship.

[khajit]

Started at 26

[tynetunnel]

We're literally on a forum for guys to post reviews about seeing escorts...

I know! But you’re the one discussing dating. I imagine the girls you attempt to date would be flattered to know that you are hoping to be “going on to smash her multiple times in the future”

[Wiley Kat]

I started at 25 (now 27) after coming to the conclusion that i'm never ever going to have the confidence to talk to a girl in real life.

[King Darius]

30. Started when I was 19. Escalated from yearly birthday punts into weekly escapades. None of my friends do it.
"Hookers Darius? Ridiculous!"
Psshhhh. I got no regrets! I mean, yeah, there's nothing like the frisson of chatting up a girl in a club, taking her home, but sometimes... you just have to fuck a whore. Punting has its place.

[Bum Lovin Criminal]

30. Started when I was 19. Escalated from yearly birthday punts into weekly escapades. None of my friends do it.
"Hookers Darius? Ridiculous!"
Psshhhh. I got no regrets! I mean, yeah, there's nothing like the frisson of chatting up a girl in a club, taking her home, but sometimes... you just have to fuck a whore. Punting has its place.

Amen to that Brother..

It's going to be interesting when the Nightclubs reopen in June, will the patrons ie, women, be acting like a starving man given free reign in a

restaurant?  I hope so..

But also, by way of a caveat, it's quite possible that long term punting may have a negative effect on some peoples ability to pair bond or form long

term monogamous relationships when/if you think you've found, 'the one', later on down the road.

Punting is a fantastic Pandora's box that's beyond doubt but a bitch to get the lid

back on, Should you even want to that is.

A very interesting link too.  Thanks Mace!.     External Link/Members Only.         

[Joe Exotic]

Under 30. First punted @ 18 in the Philippines. Then it was Amsterdam/Rotterdam every quarter and numerous Asian excursions.

Only started UK punting couple years back upon discovering the purple site.

[Jimmy83]

Something that I'm not sure has been mentioned but punting can also be good "practice" for civvy girls. You see what technique an escort likes for eating her out and apply that to a girl you date. Same goes for FK and some other stuff as well.

If you're a virgin, going to a WG for your first time can also make things a bit easier. Once you're over that first hurdle, it's much less daunting.

[King Darius]

@Bum Lovin Criminal

Only time will tell! I need your optimism  Personally, if I'm honest, I feel sexual dynamics were already getting pretty warped before COVID. Social media, pornography... all heavy influencers. At the risk of making sweeping generalizations, I find a lot of guys socially autistic when it comes to women. And I blame porn. There's studies online proving porn doesn't just damage the brain – it literally rewires it! Guy's would definitely get their confidence back if they sacked the porn off. They reckon a lack of confidence is the result of watching too much and NOT the cause, which disturbs me. If women are the ones initiating sex, men's inability to hook up with has tragic consequences – you get loads of thirsty and starving guys, unable to compete, and they get frustrated, angry, bitter. Doesn't help that social media deludes many girls into believing they are worthiest. You just get loads of frustrated, bitter and angry guys. And all for what? Because they're priced out of some overvalued sexual real estate? Sad.

I think punting is preferable. If prostitutes weren't around, society would implode in about 2 hours. I can joke about them being 'key workers', but they really are.

And well said by @Jimmy83, you definitely learn and practice techniques that you can develop on "civilian" girls. COVID has made me realize that I want less punts but of higher quality.

[no2punter]

Yes, and I know a few other guys my age that have. I think it's been growing over the last few years as sexlessness among male youth does. I sometimes ask WGs about general demographic information about their clientele as a whole. I've noticed a lot (especially older ones who have worked for a while) say that the number of young guys is rising quite fast. Young South Asian men as an ethnic group are also disproportionately represented.

If you want to count young men who get prossies in mainland Europe/Thailand/Mexico/wherever as punters too, then I imagine the number goes up quite a lot because that's fairly socially mainstream nowadays. There's just some sort of inaccurate perception that prostitution is illegal in Britain, which I suspect is due to the influence of American media here.

[rubric]

Doesn't help that social media deludes many girls into believing they are worthiest.

The other big factor is the dynamics of online dating.

[JasonsAllRound]

31 and only done massage/HE/B2B. I’m in a relationship but have a stressful corporate job (MBA-type of thing) so I do like the relaxation every now and then. I do think seeing multiple women has helped my general confidence in all manners of life, but I’m cautious about moving to full service, so just prefer the massages for now. I’ve found this site really helpful in selecting masseuses. Cheers Gents, both young and old.

 

[Apu]

Yes, and I know a few other guys my age that have. I think it's been growing over the last few years as sexlessness among male youth does. I sometimes ask WGs about general demographic information about their clientele as a whole. I've noticed a lot (especially older ones who have worked for a while) say that the number of young guys is rising quite fast. Young South Asian men as an ethnic group are also disproportionately represented.

If you want to count young men who get prossies in mainland Europe/Thailand/Mexico/wherever as punters too, then I imagine the number goes up quite a lot because that's fairly socially mainstream nowadays. There's just some sort of inaccurate perception that prostitution is illegal in Britain, which I suspect is due to the influence of American media here.

What does the bold line mean?
Is the number  really low or understated by Wgs or ridiculously high?

[King Darius]

The other big factor is the dynamics of online dating.

Indeed! I'm a bit of a Luddite and much prefer old fashioned face-to-face talking. 

[Jayf]

I'm 29. My first punt was when I was 18 with a street girl in the car.   I've been punting ever since.

[Bum Lovin Criminal]

Indeed! I'm a bit of a Luddite and much prefer old fashioned face-to-face talking. 

Did anybody else , thinking about their very first punt have that moment of introspection or hesitation and inner turmoil thinking to yourself....

"wait a minute, I'm young-ish, not bad looking, what the fuck am I doing 'paying' for pussy?  and "once I do this I will always be one of them....a

saddo/punter/pervert/sad fuck/dirty macker who has to buy fanny".

And how long did you hesitate before you crossed that Rubicon?  I was a couple of months thinking about it before this one girl's profile

was just way too hot to ignore..and that was that..

[Bikerman]

I started in early 20s.. got sick of dating women and getting false promises  so i take them out for night tgen go pay a WG forca fuck..or use them to try new ideas out.. im 59 now and punt couple times a year when missus not around

[King Darius]

Did anybody else , thinking about their very first punt have that moment of introspection or hesitation and inner turmoil thinking to yourself....

"wait a minute, I'm young-ish, not bad looking, what the fuck am I doing 'paying' for pussy?  and "once I do this I will always be one of them....a

saddo/punter/pervert/sad fuck/dirty macker who has to buy fanny".

And how long did you hesitate before you crossed that Rubicon?  I was a couple of months thinking about it before this one girl's profile

was just way too hot to ignore..and that was that..

Yep! I've never had problems with girls, I started simply because I have a high sex drive. I don't watch porn and wanking bores the tits off me. Punting gives me an outlet for my libido. @Bum Loving Criminal, I still remember the thrill of my first punt – I was literally quaking haha! If I ever feel sadness due to a punt it's because they have been lackluster – a lot of SP's forget sex is just one part of a whole. Nothing worse than mechanical sex... maybe, a SP without a personality/ability to converse?

I had my doubts before crossing the Rubicon for sure, but in a weird way, I actually believe punting requires a certain confidence loads of guys lack. Maybe, I've totally rationalized my hobby haha!
It's just a lot of my friends have listened to my antics with open mouths, mentioning they'd never have the nerve to do it.

And to guys who find approaching hookers easier than civvy girls, I'd say stick in there and persevere with the latter as well – as many have stated on this thread, puntings great practice and it'll make you less thirsty. Girls smell thirsty guys from fucking miles away. I know the sexual dynamics/rules/etiquette is totally different in regards to the punting and civilian world, but do feel that a lot of guys who punt and see civvy girls as harder to approach are definitely able to approach and pick up girls. I don't know whether this is because of shyness or insecurity or fear of rejection or whatever. I suppose it's easier said than done. You gotta conquer yourself before you can win over other people.

[no2punter]

What does the bold line mean?
Is the number  really low or understated by Wgs or ridiculously high?

The numbers I got were from about 6 or 7 WGs – purely anecdotally. I don't really have any way of proofing what they're saying, and I imagine these numbers are quite vague, ballpark figures.

They pretty much all said that about half their clients were men in their 20s or early 30s.

Of clients overall, depending on the WG, about a third to half were South Asian – this is in urban areas where South Asians were about 10-15% of the population, so that's what I mean about them being disproportionately south Asian. And it seemed that of those South Asian men, they were disproportionately younger (as opposed to older), but I didn't get any numbers on that.

Another further point is that with black escorts, the percentage of South Asian clients seemed a little lower, closer to 25% to a third, whereas with white European escorts, it was closer to 50%, which is probably understandable given sexual preferences.

One thing I heard from two escorts, both EE, that don't see black clients but do see South Asians, is that black punters are a fairly small percentage anyway. Whereas if you say no to South Asian clients, you're chasing away half your business.

[Apu]

Oh I understand.

I think South Asian men tend to be more sexually deprived and over compensate. Its Taboo within South Asian culture to discuss sex or be Liberal. Plus also you have to factor in South Asian men are likely to be sexually charged because of the Western influence that sways them away from either culture or religion. We are programmed to sexualise white females more too.
Basically a good girl gone bad scenario but with South Asian men.

Based on stereotypes, South Asian men are also looking for VFM and "good deals", I know every male is but the stereotype is set that Asians are more persistent and Savvy.

I tend to overspend and blow huge amounts and in my experience the Wgs I visit rarely meet South Asian men but have done so in their private lives and relationships.

There was one girl in London... Think her name is Yasmin Petite in Stratford, I reckon 80% of her clients are South Asian. Based in her private gallery. I noticed way too many brown cock....

[mace-window]

Did anybody else , thinking about their very first punt have that moment of introspection or hesitation and inner turmoil thinking to yourself....

"wait a minute, I'm young-ish, not bad looking, what the fuck am I doing 'paying' for pussy?  and "once I do this I will always be one of them....a

saddo/punter/pervert/sad fuck/dirty macker who has to buy fanny".

And how long did you hesitate before you crossed that Rubicon?  I was a couple of months thinking about it before this one girl's profile

was just way too hot to ignore..and that was that..

Have to say I had the same feeling after my first couple of WG's but it was more in the line of "I am paying for an escort that may be forced into this due to sex trafficking" . The first WG I saw was a Romanian WG but did provide a good service (Well tried to). The service was OW, RO (first time doing RO with a woman ha) and mish. All that lasted 15 minutes with RO being the longest not because it was my favorite thing to do when doing the deed (which it is) but I stayed doing RO was due to me being very nerves. After I did the deed I got dressed quickly and leaved the hotel room quickly. The WG wanted to have some free time talking and thinking we have another round but I was filled with guilt with what I have done. I was thinking on my way back home "I have done something really really bad that helped her pimp".

This made me not punt till a year and half after till I meet another Romanian WG called Tanya in Oxford who was a lot more chilled and was more attractive. But still felt guilty after the couple of meets with her. It was only when I found UKP around 2015 - 2016 and did a little bit of research to know that most WG's aren't being trafficked or forced into escorting or that most punters aren't saddo/punter/pervert/sad fuck/dirty macker/psychopath sex fiends who treat WG's horribly (yes I did think that most punters were like this). I think that people like me think like this due to the media and how society views on punters paying for sex though trying to pick up girls at the bar is seen ok (well maybe not today of course). I think if I would start over again, I would do my research first about Punting and maybe seen a well reviewed Escort as my first punt. I think doing such things helps kill your nerves and not feel to bad about seeing a WG.

The numbers I got were from about 6 or 7 WGs – purely anecdotally. I don't really have any way of proofing what they're saying, and I imagine these numbers are quite vague, ballpark figures.

They pretty much all said that about half their clients were men in their 20s or early 30s.

Of clients overall, depending on the WG, about a third to half were South Asian – this is in urban areas where South Asians were about 10-15% of the population, so that's what I mean about them being disproportionately south Asian. And it seemed that of those South Asian men, they were disproportionately younger (as opposed to older), but I didn't get any numbers on that.

Another further point is that with black escorts, the percentage of South Asian clients seemed a little lower, closer to 25% to a third, whereas with white European escorts, it was closer to 50%, which is probably understandable given sexual preferences.

One thing I heard from two escorts, both EE, that don't see black clients but do see South Asians, is that black punters are a fairly small percentage anyway. Whereas if you say no to South Asian clients, you're chasing away half your business.

I said this in many old threads before on here but I think WG's that have a NBA policy are doing so due to 1 - they are being racist and 2 - they can get away with it as they live in a country with a majority of white people. If they was living in a country with the majority of black country they would put their racism at the door and fuck that black guy like he was her lover. To these type of WG's money talk more than the color of someone skin.

Though you comment can of confirms that these WG's reason for not seeing Black punters is not due to the same old BS excuse of "due to bad experience I don't see X race of people" but due to them can get away with it and not have their escort income being affected.

[BLADE]

I bet that crossing that river and going for your first punt is a lot harder as a black guy under 30 years.  It is a hard stereotype to break free of, ie young black guys don't buy pussy, young black guys don't muff dive and  young black guys don't come out as gay either.
Thankfully this crap is changing albeit far too slowly.

I did question myself for a long long time before going over the edge for my first punt.
"I'm a young man, wtf am I doing even thinking about buying pussy? what if this got out?"
if wasn't for this forum I'd still be thinking the same thing even now.
I remember as a young kid at school with mates, nicking a twix and brooding for months after thinking " I'm a thief now ". And after my first punt I was brooding again, " I'm a sad punter now". 
This site has been an eye opener for me.  Punting is a wonderful addition that adds variety, spice and excitement to one's sexual dinner plate, not a sad thing and I could never go back to just plain now.

[AHK]

I'm in my mid 20s. Only had sex 3 times, each time with an escort. I wish I didn't have to, I'd love to do it the conventional way but despite being "successful" in all other metrics of life, I think I'm just an ugly bastard lol! So I just go by day to day, and when it gets too much I come back here.

[mace-window]

I bet that crossing that river and going for your first punt is a lot harder as a black guy under 30 years.  It is a hard stereotype to break free of, ie young black guys don't buy pussy, young black guys don't muff dive and  young black guys don't come out as gay either.
Thankfully this crap is changing albeit far too slowly.

I did question myself for a long long time before going over the edge for my first punt.
"I'm a young man, wtf am I doing even thinking about buying pussy? what if this got out?"
if wasn't for this forum I'd still be thinking the same thing even now.
I remember as a young kid at school with mates, nicking a twix and brooding for months after thinking " I'm a thief now ". And after my first punt I was brooding again, " I'm a sad punter now". 
This site has been an eye opener for me.  Punting is a wonderful addition that adds variety, spice and excitement to one's sexual dinner plate, not a sad thing and I could never go back to just plain now.

While I did not feel the same way during my early days of punting, I do think it is right what you said. From what the "community" stance on tricking, to the media/porn portrayal of black guys being players with an untenable sexual trust to the whole society views on punting does add up and not help with things. But yeah doing your research and thinking logically will help ease that false guilt on your first few punts.

[pantywetter]

I started around age 20.  I was that young that I found out when my friend sent me a link to sandys superstars on MSN Messenger!

A bit of me regrets starting so early as I pretty much stopped chasing civvies.  Then I remember the hundreds of hot girls I’ve fucked I don’t beat myself up too much.

[theclown]

I was on a family trip when I was 18 to thailand and me roaming around Bangkok on my own (yeah I really had no chance did I)

Long story short she was a 35 year Thai milf who basicly lead me up to a room and showed an unexperienced 18 year old (only been with two women before) one hell of a time, I did not see an escort again until I was 30 after I broke up with my ex who was a money hungry bitch who treated me like shit.

I am 35 now

[CV31Lad]

I'm in my early 30s now, my first punt was age 25 in Amsterdam. Not the best of punts looking back but it gave the thrill that we all look for. Since then I discovered Adult work and have used it in between relationships. Internet dating is a hassle, and I actually enjoy being single and meeting who I want when I want. Certainly think it's easier for our generation rather than the days of reading the old WHY magazine or ads in local newspapers as I remember seeing as a kid.

[Bum Lovin Criminal]

I started around age 20.  I was that young that I found out when my friend sent me a link to sandys superstars on MSN Messenger!

A bit of me regrets starting so early as I pretty much stopped chasing civvies.  Then I remember the hundreds of hot girls I’ve fucked I don’t beat myself up too much.

A good point and well made..

Most societal trends change over time usually for the better..ie, casual racism, sexism, homophobia, etc, and who knows,

society's and attitudes to punting may well follow suit too. 

There's already a trend of younger guys enjoying stags trips abroad, Amsterdam, Thailand hols, Soho shags, Croatia and Hungary punting hols, etc. 

Soon these guys will turn their attention on the UK scene via AW and VS etc.

Punting for the under 30s may soon become more acceptable or at least 'less frowned upon'

as more guys think, why pay close to £100 to go clubbing/drinks or wine and dine a girl, perhaps a few times,new clothes, transport etc, just for a 'will

she, won't she' put out gamble, when £50 to a hot escort cuts out all that crap?

The punter demographic is getting younger and more ethnically diverse according to the WGs on SAAFE who are seeing more and more men under 30

and from the black and Asian communities.  Internet dating and the like was once stigmatised as only for losers, is now mainstream,

so maybe the punting trend for under 30s will become mainstream too?

Who knows, maybe one day we'll start seeing profiles saying.." no white guys over 40 please due to a bad experience"..

[rioblack90]

Did anybody else , thinking about their very first punt have that moment of introspection or hesitation and inner turmoil thinking to yourself....

"wait a minute, I'm young-ish, not bad looking, what the fuck am I doing 'paying' for pussy?  and "once I do this I will always be one of them....a

saddo/punter/pervert/sad fuck/dirty macker who has to buy fanny".

And how long did you hesitate before you crossed that Rubicon?  I was a couple of months thinking about it before this one girl's profile

was just way too hot to ignore..and that was that..

I genuinely thought i had committed a mortal Sin bro i was so ashamed XD

I Started 2 years ago and what others have said above the whole dating scene i got sick of it so paying for pussy and working on other facets of my life lets me blow off the Steam! Only one other mate knows but at this point i kinda DGAF im single and all the girls i know wouldnt wanna shag me anyway. Till the right one comes along il check the ol AW when i wanna try something 'Specific' Lol 

[Bum Lovin Criminal]

Wow!, looks like things change even faster than I thought...

with talk of 6pm curfews for men.. in light of the Sarah Everard tragic event, looks like even saying an unwanted 'Hi' to a girl

may cause you to be wrestled to the ground by undercover policemen..

I think the popularity of punting for the younger bloke is going to explode..

[JasonsAllRound]

Wow!, looks like things change even faster than I thought...

with talk of 6pm curfews for men.. in light of the Sarah Everard tragic event, looks like even saying an unwanted 'Hi' to a girl

may cause you to be wrestled to the ground by undercover policemen..

I think the popularity of punting for the younger bloke is going to explode..

Excellent point... also, with any accusation being taken as true without due process, the risk of character assassination even if there’s no evidence of anything happening/or ever did happen will be a risk many simply may not be willing to take. If the Government is going to follow through on the plain clothes officer approach, there also needs to be a balance of strong sentences for blatantly false accusation.

[mace-window]

Wow!, looks like things change even faster than I thought...

with talk of 6pm curfews for men.. in light of the Sarah Everard tragic event, looks like even saying an unwanted 'Hi' to a girl

may cause you to be wrestled to the ground by undercover policemen..

I think the popularity of punting for the younger bloke is going to explode..

Excellent point... also, with any accusation being taken as true without due process, the risk of character assassination even if there’s no evidence of anything happening/or ever did happen will be a risk many simply may not be willing to take. If the Government is going to follow through on the plain clothes officer approach, there also needs to be a balance of strong sentences for blatantly false accusation.

If women want this so be it. I will rather see a WG or move out of an western country than dealing with this ridiculous society that thinks any man below 8/10 in looks that ask a girl out is likely to assailant a women when in fact we live in country that crimes like that has been on a decline. Again not many women aren't protesting against this stupid 6pm curfew for men or how unfair the divorce/family courts are against men to add but will protest against Trump while wearing a pussy hat. This shows how some women think of us men and if they want this 6pm curfew for men, just be ready for the circumstances of this. Marriages are already on a decrease and there is a 30% of men who not had sex in the USA for a reason.

[JasonsAllRound]

If women want this so be it. I will rather see a WG or move out of an western country than dealing with this ridiculous society that thinks any man below 8/10 in looks that ask a girl out is likely to assailant a women when in fact we live in country that crimes like that has been on a decline. Again not many women aren't protesting against this stupid 6pm curfew for men or how unfair the divorce/family courts are against men to add but will protest against Trump while wearing a pussy hat. This shows how some women think of us men and if they want this 6pm curfew for men, just be ready for the circumstances of this. Marriages are already on a decrease and there is a 30% of men who not had sex in the USA for a reason.

Yes, certainly agree. Socially accepted misandry is becoming the norm and painting all men with the same brush will only get more men to ‘check out’ of a society based around family. In the upcoming conflict with China in the next decade, who will be asked to show up for the fireworks I wonder? Anyway, we’re severely off topic here, but it fully explains why young men are choosing to take up punting.

[mace-window]

Yes, certainly agree. Socially accepted misandry is becoming the norm and painting all men with the same brush will only get more men to ‘check out’ of a society based around family. In the upcoming conflict with China in the next decade, who will be asked to show up for the fireworks I wonder? Anyway, we’re severely off topic here, but it fully explains why young men are choosing to take up punting.

I don't know about that but I will say more and more men that these ladies find attractive will not bother with marriage or dating. The nnly men that will bother with such a thing are men that aren't to clued up on this and are the guys they have to settle with (aren't their first choice). And from reading some of the threads here and mostly talking to people in day in day life, there is quite a few number of men out there who think things aren't that bad for men.

[6inchesoffury]

Wow I'll be honest didnt think there were so many people under 30 on this thread. I started when I was 20 after a breakup and the hand bashing just wasn't doing it for me anymore. I'm 24 now and I'm on and off now tbh, mainly as not many SP have really caught my eye. Feel like since Xmas theres been a huge shortage of talent im sure some of you will agree with me.

I cant argue with what a lot of the guys here have said, I think you gain a lot of confidence from punting which helps a lot when talking to civvies and also you know when to walk away if a girl is wasting your time. I think a balance of both SP and civvies is good in the long term. You'll never devalue your worth by moving thirsty as this option is always there. Plus girls will sense thirstiness from a mile away.
Im just looking forward to everything being open again so I can have some good night outs again.
Call me old school, but I've hated online dating for a while, seem to always have more luck pulling women in person and its always easier when they know how you come across rather than all that bs you have to portray on insta. That's just me giving my 2 cents but I think we all have our reasons for being on here LOL.

[Home Alone]

Wow I'll be honest didnt think there were so many people under 30 on this thread. I started when I was 20 after a breakup and the hand bashing just wasn't doing it for me anymore. I'm 24 now and I'm on and off now tbh, mainly as not many SP have really caught my eye. Feel like since Xmas theres been a huge shortage of talent im sure some of you will agree with me.

I'll bet a lot of us on here are surprised by that. And by how similar are the reasons many of the younger generation give for punting to those we oldies have for punting, too.

[EastmidsBrowser]

28 here. Started punting at 25. The occasional Thai massage way before that.