Today's (Wednesday 7 December) UKP News

[mrhappypants]

Headline from Admin:

"Negative reviews are valued and of high importance on UKP, those who want to pressure / bully / threaten other punters into not posting them will find it to be their last post on UKP."

I think this is a valuable reminder from Admin.  I notice a return to the bad habit of citing other positive reviews in order to "refute" negative commentary.  While not policy it is worth mentioning the Guide to UKP review writing:

"You are free to post your own positive review for your own experience, but there is no need to reference other reviewers reviews. Do not post a review to white knight an escort.....

Write a review in order to allow other punters to make an informed choice about whether they want to visit the WG, rather than in order to “promote” the girl because you think “she deserves it”. This is the most common mistake and there is nothing worse than a punter who assumes the role of a prostitute’s forum pimp."

[cueball]

Yes, have a read of the dick in this thread saying negative reviews shouldn't be posted.....

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=121998.25

[GreyDave]

  I just check though my few reviews they are mostly positive and most of em have cleared off back to what ever EE country they came from after taking cash and cock for a few months..

The whole point of this place and maybe why I and others have more poss than neg reviews is BRAVER PUNTERS take the chance and punt I follow a few and make the choice on some of them being a cheapskate the Soho walk world is a nightmare as a temp girl will say she is A and is really K they want the cash its 20quid so many on here look down on the quick ball drain its not something to ponder over and write an essay on some times we do if its good or if its a warning   But when we spend a bit more with the indy girls that's when the full road test review is worth its weight does she only prefer white guys young middle age ect all this comes in to play. I try and put my age and simple preferences in the review as my good will be anothers neg and some guys negs I would take as neutral  it is difficult to get this right.

[Students Notebook]

I just check though my few reviews they are mostly positive and most of em have cleared off back to what ever EE country they came from after taking cash and cock for a few months..

The whole point of this place and maybe why I and others have more poss than neg reviews is BRAVER PUNTERS take the chance and punt I follow a few and make the choice on some of them being a cheapskate the Soho walk world is a nightmare as a temp girl will say she is A and is really K they want the cash its 20quid so many on here look down on the quick ball drain its not something to ponder over and write an essay on some times we do if its good or if its a warning   But when we spend a bit more with the indy girls that's when the full road test review is worth its weight does she only prefer white guys young middle age ect all this comes in to play. I try and put my age and simple preferences in the review as my good will be anothers neg and some guys negs I would take as neutral  it is difficult to get this right.

As you say "it's very difficult to get this right".

I fear this WARNING may well put people off posting reviews.

S.N.

[vt]

Who is this forum pimp? I suppose we don't want to give him the oxygen of publicity, but is it the 'white knight' of King Arthur's Round Table or a NW-based parasite? 

I've got more Positives than Neutrals/Negatives on here for a couple of different reasons...I follow a mate who doesn't review here but often TOFTT and lets me know about the good ones, so I don't have to TOFTT very often...also sometimes the Neutrals/Negatives disappear off the scene before I get around to doing a review, which then becomes pointless if she's fucked off back to EE.

Some guys might not post negatives out of some sort of shame of having to admit it. I often try to bolster up guys who post negs, as the fault isn't theirs, it's the provider. If a guy posts a neg on a prossie I've given a qualified positive, I may ask a few questions to dig a bit deeper and find out what went wrong, but I really don't want to interfere with his right to his personal view and the process on here of finding balance between differing opinions.

[Chuckman]

Punting is an expensive business and if I have a bad punt then the positive I can take from it is that a review can be written on here telling others what to expect from her. If one person can avoid wasting their hard earned on her then it will have been worth it.

Negative reviews are just an important part of the forum as positive reviews and people should be encouraged to leave them so that the same experience doesn't happen to others.

[holland]

I'm sure you noticed this but negative reviews get less views than positives. 

[cueball]

I'm sure you noticed this but negative reviews get less views than positives. 

You're right, I've noticed  negative and neutral reviews get far fewer viewings.

Ironically, they're the reviews that should be read. I study the negatives closely, they're the ones save me money and teach me lessons.

[Steely Dan]

I'm sure you noticed this but negative reviews get less views than positives. 

Positive reviews are read to decide to add them to the hot list or not.  Need to read and ponder.  Negative reviews are there so if you spot a girl, you can check her out.  No need to read them in advance.  But they are there to save you from a terrible error.

I might read a bad review 3 months after it is written, but they save me big time.  I probably read more positives.  But the negatives are probably more valuable.

[maxxblue]

As you say "it's very difficult to get this right".

I fear this WARNING may well put people off posting reviews.

S.N.

I'm not sure if I have understood your post correctly, but why this put people off?

[Chuckman]

I'm sure you noticed this but negative reviews get less views than positives. 

You're right and the difference in views is noticeable. Yet these are the ones that save you money when you're flicking through AW and you see WGs that catch your eye and think "she looks really good, better check on UKP just to be safe".

[webpunter]

Positives tend to get more replies which keeps the thread going, towards the top of each section.  Whereas negative reviews are more likely to drop off the horizon / the 1st page etc.  IMO negative reviews which aren't opened / thus viewed still provide benefit - especially when clearly titled:  location / name. When busy & only a certain amount of time to read UKP, i'll see a negative & may recall the profile.  Which i had figured as probably one to avoid anyways - so i don't open.  The negative subject line serves to re-inforce this.  I'll occasionally think along the lines of how stupid is the OP to have a go with that howler - especially when reporting on here.  We all make mistakes & sharing / admitting to these is part of getting the crap punt out of our minds & focusing on the next one.  And if fellow UKP'ers get some intel & maybe have a laarf along the way all the better

Think of it like a car review in one of the sunday papers - with some critical points highlighted.  So some heap of shit french car gets a battering - i ain't gonna read it coz i ain't gonna buy one.  Ever.  Whereas a motor that readers may be interested in buying / aspire to own will receive more attention.  The same with hookers.  "I wonder how that motor performs / how much does it cost to run ?"  Same with WGs me thinks.  We all know that especially in the short term renting is generally better, more flexible & cheaper than buying.  Motors & hookers !

I'm sure you noticed this but negative reviews get less views than positives. 

[Anonymous_male_78]

Personally before I go to a meet I check and double check on here first. I will say this site has saved me a number of times from bad meets.

[mrhappypants]

I think the number of views should be taken as an indicator of how popular a thread is but NOT how useful it is.  Like others, a negative review can be really valuable if you are researching a particular girl, regardless of whether it has prompted a lot of views or replies.  For this reason, it is in the interest of the board to resist attempts to bully or intimidate those who write negative reviews.

[threechilliman]

I'm sure you noticed this but negative reviews get less views than positives. 

Which is strange, given the relevance of them.

tcm

[od13218]

I think the number of views should be taken as an indicator of how popular a thread is but NOT how useful it is.  Like others, a negative review can be really valuable if you are researching a particular girl, regardless of whether it has prompted a lot of views or replies.  For this reason, it is in the interest of the board to resist attempts to bully or intimidate those who write negative reviews.

Absolutely. If a negative review gets 1 view and saves 1 punter from a bad experience then it was worth posting.

[DickDiver]

For me, if it is an experienced punter writing it, I can get exactly what I need from the headline of a negative review.

If it's negative I don't need to know the detail of whether it's B&S, timemwasting or a honking fanny. If it's a new reviewer i will have a look until I get to know their likes and dislikes.

On the other hand, if it's positive I will want to benchmark the reviewer against my likes and dislikes, and perhaps ask more questions.

I don't think it's odd that positive reviews get more reads as, aafter all, we are here to get good punts.

[Students Notebook]

I'm not sure if I have understood your post correctly, but why this put people off?

Yes, maxxblue, I totally agree with you.

My remark no longer makes any sense but this is because the wording of the original statement/warning has been so

comprehensively altered that my remark no longer applies.

I apologise for any confusion.

S.N.

[GreyDave]

You're right, I've noticed  negative and neutral reviews get far fewer viewings.

Ironically, they're the reviews that should be read. I study the negatives closely, they're the ones save me money and teach me lessons.

Like many I scan the Neg reviews if there is one that seems to be  A, close or B hotlister . Like previso punter/poster here said I read the reviews before spending my hard earned cash."  POP it woz outa me in less than 5min s " I remember being rushed and wanked to oblivion by many an old brass one even used one of those old hairdresser style vibraters on the little fella " to get you up nicely" she told me an 18 year old splat a few seconds later . Now at least we have this site and the wiki info on what can happen....More power to its elbow .......................( no wanking pun intended )

[GreyDave]

Personally before I go to a meet I check and double check on here first. I will say this site has saved me a number of times from bad meets.

But some time s we take a chance ...I seem to remember we can just turn around before giving the cash

[Juilius_Sneezer]

I tend to look at positives first to scope out the market and if they have some coming up negative/neutral check them out to see what the problem was. Sometimes I will check out negatives even if I have no interest in the girl just to catch some of the pitfalls that are out there but generally positives first and negatives as comparison/reference.

[Romney]

I agree with the posters who said that negative reviews are far more valuable than positive ones, at least for me.  As a relatively new punter, I will avoid wg's with negative reviews (unless it's one of those that have 50 positives and jus one or two negs....), and I generally will only see highly rated wg's at this point, which is pretty easy to do in London.

 I'm guessing this is why most of my reviews have been positive so far, as I'm not really much of a risk taker.  I don't feel like I'm good enough at figuring out who to avoid and I'm probably not ready to walk yet when perhaps more experienced punters would at the beginning of a punt.  I would have no hesitation at giving a negative it is was warranted, however, and my first review here was a strong neg, but that was before I discovered UKP, so I learned my lesson the hard way, lol...

[OldAdmin]

however, and my first review here was a strong neg, but that was before I discovered UKP, so I learned my lesson the hard way, lol...

My first punt was a bad one (bait and switch) and I've always wondered how a first punt being a bad one affects punter's 'development' and his outlook on punting, does "mature" them quicker? Make them a cynic quicker? As opposed to an optimist if they had a very good first punt? 

[Romney]

My first few punts were pretty bad, and I think they showed me that I had no idea what I was doing in selecting wg's.  I think had I not found UKP and since then had mostly good experiences, I might not have continued doing this.  In some ways, I almost feel like I'm cheating now, because by restricting myself to seeing only highly rated wg's, there is much less risk in punting.

Perhaps when I have more experience and feel more confident, I'll start to tofft, but for now, I'll hopefully continue to have a high chance of good punts by only seeing wg's with lots of positive reviews....

[Chuckman]

My first few punts were pretty bad, and I think they showed me that I had no idea what I was doing in selecting wg's.  I think had I not found UKP and since then had mostly good experiences, I might not have continued doing this.  In some ways, I almost feel like I'm cheating now, because by restricting myself to seeing only highly rated wg's, there is much less risk in punting.

Perhaps when I have more experience and feel more confident, I'll start to tofft, but for now, I'll hopefully continue to have a high chance of good punts by only seeing wg's with lots of positive reviews....

There's nothing wrong with playing safe, it's all about taking baby steps when you start these days and UKP will help you gain confidence in your choices.  Choosing the ones with decent feedback on here means you're more than likely to have a good time and not waste your money.

[GreyDave]

There's nothing wrong with playing safe, it's all about taking baby steps when you start these days and UKP will help you gain confidence in your choices.  Choosing the ones with decent feedback on here means you're more than likely to have a good time and not waste your money.

When I started it was just walk ups no referencing or reviews anywhere the best was a punter on way out shes ok ect or don't bother, when I was younger in my 20-30`s I got amazing service of older women and crap off of young girls or same age it all got mixed up in my 40`s with some of the best and worst punting times ever now in my mid 50`s I am felling that the late 20-30 girls are hoping to get my quick repeat vists and the older one are starting to ask to many questions and try to find links and talk about their other punters  a sort of revese of what happened earlier it was a similar aged 45 ish WG who told me of the wonders of the Blue pill and ever since have used some sort of helper