Reasons an SP would know about UKP

[LLPunting]

With the increasing mention of SPs reading reviews here (and complaining or punishing punters) I thought it might be useful to surface the reasons/posits why an SP might get to know about this site:

1)  (Active) UKPer tells her about it because:
 a)  He wrote it and wants brownies for it, whether that be "love", discount or extras UTC services
 b)  He read it and disagrees and wants to warn her because he wants brownies a la 1a above
 c)  He read it, decided to see her and is demanding the same experience (and or discount)
 d)  He read it, wants the same experience or more and will write a review to either improve her reputation or else diminish it
 e)  He read it, couldn't believe it and asks her about it
 f)  He read it, thought it funny and decided to share it with her got laffs (and she was/wasn't amused, repercussions etc.)

2)  SP is Internet savvy and decides to just Google "herself":
 a)  She reads the reviews and identifies the punters responsible and contacts them with demands and repercussions
 b)  She reads a negative and joins UKP to dispute it with success and a fraud is exposed
 c)  She reads a positive, joins UKP and becomes a darling with her great CRM within the rules of posting.
 d)  She reads her reviews, decides she doesn't like being outed and "bans" UKPers as customers OR forbids UKP reviews. 
      She continues to monitor UKP to "guard" her reputation, thereby continues to "intimidate" customers about disclosing details to UKP.
 e)  She reads a negative, disputes it with UKP, she's proven a liar, she bans UKPers as customers and forbids UKP reviews
 f)  She hasn't been reviewed but finds UKP, joins as a "punter" and writes her own review (perhaps several under different ids):
   i)  UKP discovers the deceit and outs her.
   ii)  UKP doesn't discover the deceit and UKPers visit her:
      a) UKPers are pleased with her services...
      b) UKPers are not pleased by her services...
 g)  She hasn't been reviewed and proceeds to bribe punters to write reviews...#
 h)  She hasn't been reviewed and decides to earn reviews and a good reputation through honest hooking

3) A pimp or fellow SP "warns" her about UKP:
  a) - h) See 2
  i)  She entraps fluffy punters by threatening to expose them because of what they wrote on UKP

4)  She is a member of other punting "review" sites that warn her about UKP:
 a) - i)  See 2 and 3 above

5)  She is a member of SP sites discussing punters that warn her about UKP:
 a) - i)  See 2 and 3 above

6)  A banned UKPer or other disgruntled punter with an axe to grind tells SP "bad things" about UKP (eg Review site trolls, Reddit ranters, barebacking site griefers):
 a) - i)  See 2 and 3 above

To all our wise punters please do add other truths and consequences to the above list and discussion points for lurkers and contributors to consider and debate.

To the naive and/or silent please read the above VERY carefully and tote up the genuinely positive outcomes for punters before asking yourself:
1) What does your list say about your motives for using UKP?
2) If you are in favour of a "trustworthy" punter resource to find genuinely good SPs and avoid bad ones why would you tell SPs about UKP or admit to using it?  If you think you have good reason to tell them then please to discuss your reasoning here.
3) By all means discuss other pertinent points that aren't mentioned above and extend the discussion

[fredfunkster]

Decent analysis. As mentioned elsewhere, it’s wise to allow at least a week between meeting SP and reviewing, to make it less likely she identifies you. (In normal, non-Covid) times.

Having said that, if you don’t intend to see her again, and she won’t be identifying you, have no fear - post a truthful account.

Above all, this site is about honest, useful reviews. 

[alabama1]

With the increasing mention of SPs reading reviews here (and complaining or punishing punters) I thought it might be useful to surface the reasons/posits why an SP might get to know about this site:

1)  (Active) UKPer tells her about it because:
 a)  He wrote it and wants brownies for it, whether that be "love", discount or extras UTC services
 b)  He read it and disagrees and wants to warn her because he wants brownies a la 1a above
 c)  He read it, decided to see her and is demanding the same experience (and or discount)
 d)  He read it, wants the same experience or more and will write a review to either improve her reputation or else diminish it
 e)  He read it, couldn't believe it and asks her about it
 f)  He read it, thought it funny and decided to share it with her got laffs (and she was/wasn't amused, repercussions etc.)

2)  SP is Internet savvy and decides to just Google "herself":
 a)  She reads the reviews and identifies the punters responsible and contacts them with demands and repercussions
 b)  She reads a negative and joins UKP to dispute it with success and a fraud is exposed
 c)  She reads a positive, joins UKP and becomes a darling with her great CRM within the rules of posting.
 d)  She reads her reviews, decides she doesn't like being outed and "bans" UKPers as customers OR forbids UKP reviews. 
      She continues to monitor UKP to "guard" her reputation, thereby continues to "intimidate" customers about disclosing details to UKP.
 e)  She reads a negative, disputes it with UKP, she's proven a liar, she bans UKPers as customers and forbids UKP reviews
 f)  She hasn't been reviewed but finds UKP, joins as a "punter" and writes her own review (perhaps several under different ids):
   i)  UKP discovers the deceit and outs her.
   ii)  UKP doesn't discover the deceit and UKPers visit her:
      a) UKPers are pleased with her services...
      b) UKPers are not pleased by her services...
 g)  She hasn't been reviewed and proceeds to bribe punters to write reviews...#
 h)  She hasn't been reviewed and decides to earn reviews and a good reputation through honest hooking

3) A pimp or fellow SP "warns" her about UKP:
  a) - h) See 2
  i)  She entraps fluffy punters by threatening to expose them because of what they wrote on UKP

4)  She is a member of other punting "review" sites that warn her about UKP:
 a) - i)  See 2 and 3 above

5)  She is a member of SP sites discussing punters that warn her about UKP:
 a) - i)  See 2 and 3 above

6)  A banned UKPer or other disgruntled punter with an axe to grind tells SP "bad things" about UKP (eg Review site trolls,  ranters, barebacking site griefers):
 a) - i)  See 2 and 3 above

To all our wise punters please do add other truths and consequences to the above list and discussion points for lurkers and contributors to consider and debate.

To the naive and/or silent please read the above VERY carefully and tote up the genuinely positive outcomes for punters before asking yourself:
1) What does your list say about your motives for using UKP?
2) If you are in favour of a "trustworthy" punter resource to find genuinely good SPs and avoid bad ones why would you tell SPs about UKP or admit to using it?  If you think you have good reason to tell them then please to discuss your reasoning here.
3) By all means discuss other pertinent points that aren't mentioned above and extend the discussion

Fucking hell. Too much to read !

[SamOmar]

This is a great thread - I met up with one of my regulars for a walk last week and a fellow punter had screen shot and sent her my review. She mentioned someone called SamOmar had gone in to personal about location and time spent. I said it's me. She got so angry and even ended up in tears, I told her to calm down and that the punter that sent it over to her is probably a jealous twat. I don't think I will be seeing her again - my review was honest and if she got annoyed or someone twisted my words to annoy her I don't really care that it may identify me as I am not a family man or in a relationship

[RedKettle]

Why so much interest in what they are doing?

I cannot say that it is an issue that keeps me awake at night, I assume most/many of them will read the reviews and I simply do not care.

For other reasons I have always tried to avoid them knowing I am Redkettle, although a few regulars have worked it out but that is after we have shagged many times and the long ago review of our first meeting is history.

[daviemac]

This is a great thread - I met up with one of my regulars for a walk last week and a fellow punter had screen shot and sent her my review. She mentioned someone called SamOmar had gone in to personal about location and time spent. I said it's me. She got so angry and even ended up in tears, I told her to calm down and that the punter that sent it over to her is probably a jealous twat. I don't think I will be seeing her again - my review was honest and if she got annoyed or someone twisted my words to annoy her I don't really care that it may identify me as I am not a family man or in a relationship

That's half the problem, telling WGs who you are on here. Why do you think we allow 6 months for reviews? (12 for new members) it's so punters can distance themselves from the SP and can continue to review anomalously and without any backlash or influence from them, the way it should be.

[SamOmar]

That's half the problem, telling WGs who you are on here. Why do you think we allow 6 months for reviews? (12 for new members) it's so punters can distance themselves from the SP and can continue to review anomalously and without any backlash or influence from them, the way it should be.

The only thing that influences my reviews is the service / appearance / price of the WG. I identified myself to the WG before other users did the detective work and resulting in her putting 2 and 2 together. Actually thinking about it some more I also understand the forum will run better if me and others are anonymous and will be more careful in future.

[sniffer]

I think SPs, like suppliers of any other goods and services, are very keen to know what their customers think of them. I feel sure that most of them will know about UKP, one way or another, but that most will also pretend that they don't know. They will quietly keep an eye on their own reviews on here and use this objective and unbiased source of information to improve the service they offer to punters. In this way, they will get more bookings, make more money and their clients will get a better service. Everyone wins.

As you can tell, I am a very nice person and I take a positive view of human nature.

[DaveR]

That's half the problem, telling WGs who you are on here. Why do you think we allow 6 months for reviews? (12 for new members) it's so punters can distance themselves from the SP and can continue to review anomalously and without any backlash or influence from them, the way it should be.

This all day long
Why on earth punters feel the need to discuss other reviews or out themselves I have no idea
This isn’t Tony Soprano and Dr Melfi, it’s punter and whore

[Fac51]

This all day long
Why on earth punters feel the need to discuss other reviews or out themselves I have no idea
This isn’t Tony Soprano and Dr Melfi, it’s punter and whore

Absolutely spot on !

I never discuss UKP with escorts, my AW username is not related to my username on here, & I always leave at least 2 weeks min before posting a review on this great site

[LLPunting]

Fucking hell. Too much to read !

Hardly surprising for someone from your state.

If you already understand the rationale of this site and the behaviour that is conducive to its success then TL:DNTR.  If however you are clueless as to why SPs should not connect you to this site then perhaps cousin Terence from New York can read to you out loud over the telephone and then explain.  RK may be CT or maybe not 

[LLPunting]

I think SPs, like suppliers of any other goods and services, are very keen to know what their customers think of them. I feel sure that most of them will know about UKP, one way or another, but that most will also pretend that they don't know. They will quietly keep an eye on their own reviews on here and use this objective and unbiased source of information to improve the service they offer to punters. In this way, they will get more bookings, make more money and their clients will get a better service. Everyone wins.

As you can tell, I am a very nice person and I take a positive view of human nature.

Your comment may be lost on Americans.

[LLPunting]

Why so much interest in what they are doing?

I cannot say that it is an issue that keeps me awake at night, I assume most/many of them will read the reviews and I simply do not care.

For other reasons I have always tried to avoid them knowing I am Redkettle, although a few regulars have worked it out but that is after we have shagged many times and the long ago review of our first meeting is history.

A totally valid approach that is in the interests of this site's integrity.  Anonymity isn't necessary but exploitation of identity is a hazard that can be avoided by any number of simple measures when contributing here.

[LLPunting]

Absolutely spot on !

I never discuss UKP with escorts, my AW username is not related to my username on here, & I always leave at least 2 weeks min before posting a review on this great site

The only thing that necessitates hesitancy is over-sharing, to whit:

• Met the SP recently/in the past few weeks/months ago
  Easy/spotty/laboured* comms
  Speaks good/limited/no* English
  Paid x for y mins incl extras
  
  It's her in the pics but a little thinner/heavier/prettier/rougher*
  Nice handful/Great rack/Fake tits/Awesome ass/fugly pussy/etc*
  Good/shitty/sexy* attitude
  Good timekeeping/Timewaster/Shortchanger*
  Great/shitty* hygiene
  
  Popped (more than) once*
  
  Services requested: OW/OWO/RO/GFE/DT/BB/FS/Massage/Tantric/Outfit (don't say what was worn or if you brought it)/etc*
  
  Services delivered well/poorly/with enthusiasm/dead as a fish*
  
  Recommended/Avoid/Get in now*
  
  Would repeat: Yes/No*
  
  * omit/add as required.

Anything like the above in whatever order with limited fluff to garnish keeps you pretty much unknown within days of an encounter.
If you like to delight in your retelling for added appreciation then sure people, including the SP, may associate you and the experience but if you can't recommend/dissuade us in a timely fashion...

"Mummy, why are Daddy's clothes burning on the lawn?"
"Because he cheated on me with a prostitute"

is perhaps better than:
"Because he fucked a whore called Drusilla in the ass, came on her face, rubbed her tits with strawberry jelly and got her to peg him with a copy of The Sunday Times."

[Rochelle]

2)  SP is Internet savvy and decides to just Google "herself":
 a)  She reads the reviews and identifies the punters responsible and contacts them with demands and repercussions
 b)  She reads a negative and joins UKP to dispute it with success and a fraud is exposed
 c)  She reads a positive, joins UKP and becomes a darling with her great CRM within the rules of posting.
 d)  She reads her reviews, decides she doesn't like being outed and "bans" UKPers as customers OR forbids UKP reviews. 
      She continues to monitor UKP to "guard" her reputation, thereby continues to "intimidate" customers about disclosing details to UKP.

Hardly need to be internet savvy to find a punting site.

[mr.bluesky]

That's half the problem, telling WGs who you are on here. Why do you think we allow 6 months for reviews? (12 for new members) it's so punters can distance themselves from the SP and can continue to review anomalously and without any backlash or influence from them, the way it should be.

Made the mistake once of posting a review within a day or two of seeing an fbsm service provider who only provided happy ending. The next day I got many texts from her virtually accussing me of ruining her life by making it public that it was a rub and tug sort of place. It wouldn't have been so bad if it was a bad review but I posted a good positive review on her. It also followed on from another positive review someone posted about her so I don't know wether he had any text messages from her. Pretty sure she must have had an increase in bookings on the back of those two posted reviews. The problem is if I don't post the review within a short space of time of the booking I forget all the fine details.
Another service provider actually thanked me for posting such a glowing review about her the next time I saw her. I didn't tell either one I was going to post a review . The first one worked it out it was me due to what happened in the room the second one was told about the review from a friend.  I try and leave a longer gap now between the event and the review . I know from past comments and personal messages some service providers don't like having reviews posted about them but at the end of the day reviews are for our benefit and not the service provider. 

[Slow grinder]

I've been Punting for nearly 40 yrs and the advent of being able to leave a review has only been available for about half that time, so never ever in 20 yrs have I ever felt the need to say to a SP "I'm going to write about our meet",If it was good I tell them. If it was adequate or less I just say goodbye,  I don't say to a hotel "I'm going to give you a good review on TripAdvisor"... my ID on here is not the ID I give them, My phone No for them is a Punting No, my Email is a Punting Addy, my reviews WILL be for UKPunters only! Why do Punters need 'Brownie' points for SP's! people are so strange! Why invoke problems peeps?

[Payyourwaymate]

This all day long
Why on earth punters feel the need to discuss other reviews or out themselves I have no idea
This isn’t Tony Soprano and Dr Melfi, it’s punter and whore

Their Egos. Paying for sex does not exclude an individuals ego in relation to how they deal with women. If one punter got a great service and another terrible service from the same WG, their ego will be hurt...like, why him and not me? This could lead to them acting out emotionally and not rationally leading to petty situations.

I would assume it would come from a need for female validation in some cases as to why they would post for points or revenge etc, it all boils down to their egos and self worth gained from a female. I suppose it's hard to undo all the social engineering of mens egos revolving around pleasing women with "happy wife happy life", save the princess, "be a gentleman", stories revolving around a man pleasing, sacrificing themeselves for or saving a woman etc. It's all around us, it's not hard to tell, I don't see why this would not spill into punting either. Not a lot of men are cut out to be real punters who can put their ego aside and just go about their business. 

Excellent analysis LLP.

[funfungoodguy]

This is where you can easily say what yo actually have found of your experiences with an SP, and it seems that having done that there may well be others with similar views who felt more able to say what they actually thought about said SP but had not started that thread themselves.

I have found this space is a good doorway through which others will be encouraged too place their views on a particular SP once somebody had opened the door. Therefore what might have been a glowing general view of an SP is sometimes certainly not that when the deeper truth of a few responses to a review on here get going. Once you cross the threshold of saying what you really think of an SP then chances are others think the same but hadn't got round to opening up about it.

i don't care if they read it, i expect lots of SP's do and provided you are cautious to allow delay and not identify yourself then no problem. Some SPs might change their way as a result. You can say things here that perhaps you can t say to her direct, in the expectation they may filter back to her.

And what i have often wondered is where do THEY do to say what they want about US..  !?

[Shel1234]

The problem is if I don't post the review within a short space of time of the booking I forget all the fine details.

Same here.

What I’ve found useful is typing up my reviews in a separate document (I.e Iphone notes, or Word or Google docs etc).

I type it up immediately after the punt so I don’t forget what happened, but I wait a few weeks or a month before actually posting it on UKP. That way I’ll remain anonymous.

[Hobbit]

You should never tell a WG you are a UKP member, I never discuss UKP. Girls are always reading this forum or they have people reading it for them, whether it be Whiteknights, Fluffies, or Pimps. Even if you discuss your UKP identity with one Hooker you risk other girls finding out because these girls talk!

[Stevelondon]

That's half the problem, telling WGs who you are on here. Why do you think we allow 6 months for reviews? (12 for new members) it's so punters can distance themselves from the SP and can continue to review anomalously and without any backlash or influence from them, the way it should be.

Absolutely spot on !!!

[daviemac]

The problem is if I don't post the review within a short space of time of the booking I forget all the fine details.

What I do is type the basic details up on a word document when they are fresh in my mind so it can be 'fine tuned' before posting, then after a suitable time lapse copy and paste into a review.

[Thephoenix]

Good summation and guidance particularly for all the recent new members.

[daviemac]

Good summation and guidance particularly for all the recent new members.

Requoting the full thing get's it caught in pre-mod, it's at the top of the page for all to see.

[SpaceRaiderDave]

I think UKP can have a big positive impact if sps know about it as then they will then be aware that bad service levels can be made public and will hurt their earnings potential. We all want sps to be better at their job and the fear of a negative review is one way that can do that.  Tripadvisor has this impact on hotels and anyone who has worked in business will know that the fear of the internal auditor can keep things in check.

It certainly isn’t a perfect feedback equals better performance relationship and I agree there is the potential for abuse but there are lots of seasoned contributors and moderators who do a great job in catching bogus posts.

[funfungoodguy]

You should never tell a WG you are a UKP member, I never discuss UKP. Girls are always reading this forum or they have people reading it for them, whether it be Whiteknights, Fluffies, or Pimps. Even if you discuss your UKP identity with one Hooker you risk other girls finding out because these girls talk!

Yes fully agree - do not share this forum with the girls.

[J_H]

Excellent analysis.

[LLPunting]

Hardly need to be internet savvy to find a punting site.

Indeed, for those who believe in CRM.

Can you speak for any collection of SPs as to the genuine, reasoned pros and cons of UKP?  Setting both sides' hysterical/false/bad faith actors aside.

Perhaps you can suggest any omissions from the above?

[Thephoenix]

Requoting the full thing get's it caught in pre-mod, it's at the top of the page for all to see.

Oops!....sorry about that. I was wondering why it wouldn't post.
I even kept changing my comments to no avail.

On the naughty step 🙄

[HarryZZ]

I found UKP by accident, like most of us I guess, if they were really bothered they'd know about it. 

A similar thread could be entitled, "Why SP's aren't bothered about UKP."

Baring in mind most SP's might average 5-10 UKP reviews in a 10 year career, you must seriously think they spend a lot of time on the dole, this site isn't the only review site and it's not used by the vast majority of punters, I haven't documented every punt, I don't write a review immediately after a punt and I don't give away specific information about the punt that would identify me.

I'm pretty sure most SPs know what they're getting into, they don't need the adoration of the internet, they're getting plenty of grunted compliments already, if they had any sense they'd avoid UKP and even if they didn't I'm sure they're smart enough to know that this place is part fantasy for some members and they don't need UKP to survive, let's be honest there are plenty of terrible SPs out there that make a very decent living without our confirmation, even after a stream of bad reviews they're still busy.

[LLPunting]

I found UKP by accident, like most of us I guess, if they were really bothered they'd know about it. 

A similar thread could be entitled, "Why SP's aren't bothered about UKP."

Baring in mind most SP's might average 5-10 UKP reviews in a 10 year career, you must seriously think they spend a lot of time on the dole, this site isn't the only review site and it's not used by the vast majority of punters, I haven't documented every punt, I don't write a review immediately after a punt and I don't give away specific information about the punt that would identify me.

I'm pretty sure most SPs know what they're getting into, they don't need the adoration of the internet, they're getting plenty of grunted compliments already, if they had any sense they'd avoid UKP and even if they didn't I'm sure they're smart enough to know that this place is part fantasy for some members and they don't need UKP to survive, let's be honest there are plenty of terrible SPs out there that make a very decent living without our confirmation, even after a stream of bad reviews they're still busy.

Indeed, the vast majority aren't quaking in their boots about reviews here.  It begs the question why we get so much public hate if we're the backwater you make out, and indeed why any SP would bother to complain or get the hump or even ban UKPers.  Prejudice/contempt only happens because those committing it give us headspace.

[Rochelle]

Indeed, for those who believe in CRM.

Can you speak for any collection of SPs as to the genuine, reasoned pros and cons of UKP?  Setting both sides' hysterical/false/bad faith actors aside.

Perhaps you can suggest any omissions from the above?

I can only speak for myself. I came across it one day and started reading the reviews. Then I decided to join. I've managed to argue a couple of hatchet job reviews, and I'm still here.
It's obviously useful for punters in researching girls.
I like it because I get to respond to stuff, especially when dickheads are trying to make shit up. I do like reading the reviews. They can be quite useful/amusing.

[JontyR]

I'm trying to think here, I know that a couple of SPs have mentioned UKP. I remember one TS escort mentioning her reviews on HA.

Others may have done but it is lost in the midst of time

The first bemoaned a bad review on something that she wanted to refute. I don't know whether it lead to an improved service or not. I'd like to think that a good provider in any industry would use all feedback to improve services.

The other bemoaned the rafts of positive reviews she had received. It made her feel pressured to ensure that every punter received a service that was non-comparable to any other the punter had received - because this is what a number of others had mentioned.  I think she would have been grateful for the closing of HA.

I have mentioned UKP a couple of times. This was done at the end of a punt which had been a pleasant experience. I asked if they would mind if I did a review. I don't what I would have done if they had objected.

I wouldn't have asked this if it was a definite neg and I don't ask it anymore. This thread has made me think of what the motivations of it would be if I intended to return. 

[stevedave]

I have mentioned UKP a couple of times. This was done at the end of a punt which had been a pleasant experience. I asked if they would mind if I did a review.

I don't understand why you would ask an SP if you could write a review? Would you ask at a hotel if they were happy for you to write a review? Or a restaurant, a builder etc?

Anyone providing ANY service should work on the assumption that their services will be rated, graded, reviewed etc.

[Rochelle]

I don't understand why you would ask an SP if you could write a review? Would you ask at a hotel if they were happy for you to write a review? Or a restaurant, a builder etc?

Anyone providing ANY service should work on the assumption that their services will be rated, graded, reviewed etc.

He did say he only ever asked when it wasn't negative, and that he stopped asking.

[Jerk Chicken]

Excellent and thought-provoking thread @LL Punting. It is something that has been festering under the keyboards of this forum for some time and may be a growing threat into how forum members will review in future. An open discussion such as this can also serve as a warning on how to do things differently in future. A number of elements of your very detailed analysis caught my eye. Chief among them was para 2. Wanted to share with you guys my experiences relevant to this paragraph. Listed below are the outcome of four reviews that resulted in me being banned (3/4 where UKP was flagged up) from seeing these WGs again.
 
WG 1....Review Rating Given = Positive

Sent me a text asking if I posted a review as one of her regulars (fanboy/cunt) informed her.

Denied all knowledge of it. I think because we got on well during the first punt, she dismissed it and the issue passed. Have seen her on 2 more occasions since she raised it. No concerns whatsoever and never raised it again.

Outcome p4p is still available for me if I want it however, she is now like a plan C for me whenever I am in that part of London.

WG2 .... Review Rating Given = Positive.

Highlighted some things about her body and personality that she didn’t like. Tried to rebook approx. 6/7 weeks after my first punt only discover I was banned. Had a lengthy text debate initiated by her. She is an articulate woman. Told me she thought we had a great session, clicked mentally and I would go on to become a regular. Was disappointed I had spilled the beans on a public forum. Further added my review mentally destroyed her. Named the punter who told her about my review and commented about him and one other UKP punter not in the most complimentary terms. Looked him up and sure enough he has seen her.

Outcome banned. I was never going to become a regular that I am sure of however I did want to fuck her one more time.

WG3 .....Revie Rating Given = Positive but only just.
 
My review included loads of caveats regarding looks and personality.

Took great offence about my review. Sustained harassment followed no issue for me I can deal, numerous fake allegations, threats from her pimp although she claims she is independent. Made sustained effort to “find me” online/social media - stupid bitch as if my social media accounts will be linked to my UKP persona. 100% her Sergei and/or fanboy is a member here on UKP. The reason I know this is in his/her rage they say too much and slipped up. The WG herself disguised as a punter may also be a member here keeping a watchful eye.

Outcome. Obviously banned. My review summary made it clear I would not be going back to taste her pussy again perhaps this was a bridge too far for her and the carefully constructed image she and her pimp created was now shattered.


WG 4 .... Review Rating Given = Positive

No negative comments given in the review. Not 100% sure I have been banned but I do believe I have been blocked which is a ban in all but name only. I am again totally satisfied that either the girl herself is a member or was informed by punter during his punt. There is substantial anecdotal evidence to support this.

Outcome. Possible ban. Will know for sure some time in the future. I would have seen her again. She was a very good punt but there were a couple of factors that would prevent me becoming a regular. So not big deal.

Since joining UKP 2 years ago I have reviewed all my punts. Not interested in saving the goodies for myself or worried I can’t get a booking in future because the WG is now heavily booked up.

Out of my 54 reviews, 4 have resulted in “I have seen your review on UKP and you won’t be fucking my pussy again”

So a ban rate of 7%. Frankly I can live with that. I think that is a decent fall-out batting score to be fair.

However ....

In analysing the 7% the intel I have drawn is this.

The Danger Zone SP Characteristics

⁃ All four English was either their mother tongue or near fluent.
⁃ Profiles were generally well written so no P&D type SP
⁃ Reasonably educated and/or can hold good/interesting conversation during the punt on various topics.
⁃ Likely be aware of UKP and be internet savvy with natural research skills, may even join or have enlisted a fanboy to spy on their behalf.

Conclusion

On my part this leads me to review my own reporting style when I return to punting.

- Carry on reviewing as I do but leave a longer gap between punt and review. This, to me, will only improve my anonymity slightly within the 6 month rule but an improvement is an improvement.
- Change my review style completely and just give the basic facts.
- If they fit into the danger zone above simply do not review at all; possibly comment on an existing review and if members want more intel, they can PM me.
- It is clear to me in my small sample most WGs despise being reviewed on UKP even if the review is positive.

Trust you chaps find this useful.

[alabama1]

Hardly surprising for someone from your state.

If you already understand the rationale of this site and the behaviour that is conducive to its success then TL:DNTR.  If however you are clueless as to why SPs should not connect you to this site then perhaps cousin Terence from New York can read to you out loud over the telephone and then explain.  RK may be CT or maybe not 

Sorry, but what language are you speaking 

[LLPunting]

I can only speak for myself. I came across it one day and started reading the reviews. Then I decided to join. I've managed to argue a couple of hatchet job reviews, and I'm still here.
It's obviously useful for punters in researching girls.
I like it because I get to respond to stuff, especially when dickheads are trying to make shit up. I do like reading the reviews. They can be quite useful/amusing.

Which "Rochelle" are you?  In all this time I've never even looked at your profile since you're not in London.

[LLPunting]

Sorry, but what language are you speaking 

That's ok, if that's the case then you probably wouldn't have understood the OP, more's the pity.  Hope you find Terence's phone number.

[mace-window]

Have to say LLpuinting, this is a great post. Got nothing to add. Most of what you pointed out is what I would think of. Again a great post.

[willie loman]

That's ok, if that's the case then you probably wouldn't have understood the OP, more's the pity.  Hope you find Terence's phone number.

you can be hard going mister, nothing wrong with writing simple sentences.

[Rochelle]

Which "Rochelle" are you?  In all this time I've never even looked at your profile since you're not in London.

Rochelle isn't my working name. It was briefly, but I've changed it many times. Last time I checked, I was still living in a London borough.

[MissWolf]

I was pointed to this site by a punter while chatting at the end of a booking.

I wasn't too interested tbh as its up to the reviewer what they write but a couple of months later curiosity got the better of me and I joined,  incognito at first just to have a look.

I then realised I needed to declare that I was an SP so rectified that, the admin were very helpful.

Thankfully I've never had reason to kick back on any of my reviews and I wouldn'thaveany issueswith seeing any of the reviewers again, im quite sure I've seen more members than have reviewed me.

 I like to have a read on here, I interject on occasion into threads, like this one  but mostly I just read and learn, like Rochelle I like to read the negative reviews as they can be amusing and the positive ones as I can learn from them. I keep an eye on the goings on in my region and if I'm touring I will read a regional board to get an idea of where to tour or the feel of that region.

All in all I find it a very useful resource and hopefully don't step on too many toes 

[finn5555]

I never say I’m on UKP or even mention this site, if I want to review I will be that good or bad.

I don’t really care if I upset her if it’s a negative hopefully she can up her game and deliver a decent service to the next punter 

[stevedave]

Rochelle isn't my working name. It was briefly, but I've changed it many times. Last time I checked, I was still living in a London borough.

I thought WG's on here had to go by their working name, as per the rules?

2 Service Providers
This site allows service providers to be members, but there is zero-tolerance for touting, flirting, attention-seeking and negative attitude towards punters. Service providers must respect the ethos of the site. This site is not a chat platform between clients and service providers, nor is it a support site for service providers. All service providers / non-punters must reveal their working identities - no 'anonymous WGs'.

[willie loman]

i once described a girl in a review as looking like a younger version of "nigella lawson". 3 years later a girl in a sauna lounge, describing her mate, quoted this line, approvingly, i was well pleased, though i acted innocent, In edinburgh saunas uk punting is read every morning by staff and management.

[tynetunnel]

Hardly surprising for someone from your state.

If you already understand the rationale of this site and the behaviour that is conducive to its success then TL:DNTR.  If however you are clueless as to why SPs should not connect you to this site then perhaps cousin Terence from New York can read to you out loud over the telephone and then explain.  RK may be CT or maybe not 

Your comment may be lost on Americans.

Yours is totally lost on me and I’m 100% British 

[alabama1]

Yours is totally lost on me and I’m 100% British 

Thanks for that mate, I thought it was just me 

[Rochelle]

I thought WG's on here had to go by their working name, as per the rules?

2 Service Providers
This site allows service providers to be members, but there is zero-tolerance for touting, flirting, attention-seeking and negative attitude towards punters. Service providers must respect the ethos of the site. This site is not a chat platform between clients and service providers, nor is it a support site for service providers. All service providers / non-punters must reveal their working identities - no 'anonymous WGs'.

This has come up before. Ask the owner, admin, or mods.