Refusal To Get Fully Naked for B2B

[Jasonk71]

I've noticed that a lot of providers do B2B. I've noticed recently that a few providers will refuse to remove knickers. To me this is completely unacceptable

[scutty brown]

so what did you do when it happened?

[IAmNotFamous]

It’s an uncomfortable experience  but it’s their choice to keep it on.

I would presume should there be further encounters what comes with it is an increasing level of trust  between SP and client. And with that comes the confidence to remove it. Or the SP doesn’t want to remove their knickers (they often wear g strings or knickers if it’s that time of month)

[Jasonk71]

so what did you do when it happened?

I now ask at the start of the punt. Or sometimes confirm by text

[Adoniron]

I have never known this and if it happened I would ask them to take everything off. I suppose the way to deal with it is to ask them when they first offer B2B if they will ne fully naked.

[vindici]

It’s an uncomfortable experience  but it’s their choice to keep it on.

Not if they take payment to take them off. If they keep the knickers on, then a refund on the B2B should be offered. B2B and Topless aren't the same thing.

[scutty brown]

I now ask at the start of the punt. Or sometimes confirm by text

But what did you do when it happened to you?
So far this thread just looks like click-bait

[Jasonk71]

I've yet to have it happen to me. I stated clear earlier. That i clarify things at the start of the punt. Or I if its an indie provider then I clarify things by text

[contentguy]

I've yet to have it happen to me. I stated clear earlier. That i clarify things at the start of the punt. Or I if its an indie provider then I clarify things by text

So it’s not happened to you, yet you’re concerned about it 

Agree with Scutty, click bait thread 

[scutty brown]

I've yet to have it happen to me. I stated clear earlier. That i clarify things at the start of the punt. Or I if its an indie provider then I clarify things by text

So you're complaining about something you've never experienced
FFS get a life

[daviemac]

I've noticed that a lot of providers do B2B. I've noticed recently that a few providers will refuse to remove knickers. To me this is completely unacceptable

How do you know this if it hasn't happened to you, you would need to be in the room to notice it, are you hiding somewhere in the premises.   

[southcoastpunter]

Not if they take payment to take them off. If they keep the knickers on, then a refund on the B2B should be offered. B2B and Topless aren't the same thing.

they have only taken payment to "take them off" if they specifically agreed to take them off. Your idea of B2B and their idea of B2B maybe different. That is why punters should assume nothing and always be specific about anything that is important to them. I agree with you in that I too would expect B2B to be fully naked and therefore I always ask anyone before agreeing to proceed with anyone new to me.

[Jasonk71]

So you're complaining about something you've never experienced
FFS get a life

Get a life....... That's really original

[contentguy]

Get a life....... That's really original

Whilst you’ve contributed over the years, I smell troll in this thread 

[Jasonk71]

How do you know this if it hasn't happened to you, you would need to be in the room to notice it, are you hiding somewhere in the premises.   

I stated clearly that it has happened to other punters. It won't happen to me.  I stated why earlier. Maybe you missed that, but I'll state it again for you
(1) Ask about b2b as soon as you enter the room with the hoe
(2) If the book is with an indie(independent) provider then everything gets clarified by text.

[Andywb]

I stated clearly that it has happened to other punters. It won't happen to me.  I stated why earlier. Maybe you missed that, but I'll state it again for you
(1) Ask about b2b as soon as you enter the room with the hoe
(2) If the book is with an indie(independent) provider then everything gets clarified by text.

To be accurate, at no point did you say whether this was based on your own experience or the experience of other punters.

Why keep digging? Simply admitting that your initial post was unclear would be so much easier

[Jasonk71]

Clever punters on here have complained about hoes not getting completely starkers for b2b.  Haven't people got the brains to sort everything out at the start of the punt? Is it really hard to do

[luv2kiss54]

Yes ive come unstuck in the past when i presumed B2B meant they would be completely naked but they have kept they nickers on so i always clarify now. The other common problem is that some providers think B2B means just leaning over rubbing their tits on you and there you go B2B.

[contentguy]

Clever punters on here have complained about hoes not getting completely starkers for b2b.  Haven't people got the brains to sort everything out at the start of the punt? Is it really hard to do

‘hoes’, are you doing the gardening perhaps?
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Or are you American and using the rap movement’s derogatory term for SPs?

Or are you reflecting on this thread?
https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=358872.msg3696053#msg3696053

[Jasonk71]

Maybe I should have used the word 'prostitute' instead

[contentguy]

Maybe I should have used the word 'prostitute' instead

Perhaps when starting a thread, you could do it from your own experience?

[daviemac]

I stated clearly that it has happened to other punters. It won't happen to me.  I stated why earlier. Maybe you missed that, but I'll state it again for you
(1) Ask about b2b as soon as you enter the room with the hoe
(2) If the book is with an indie(independent) provider then everything gets clarified by text.

So you've started this thread to moan about something on behalf of other members even though you have no first hand experience.

Can you link to where members that it has happened to have complained about it.   

[Andywb]

I now ask at the start of the punt. Or sometimes confirm by text

So you "now" ask at the start of the punt.  What did you do before?  From this it would be reasonable to infer that you previously omitted to make it clear that you expected the SP to be completely naked for b2b.  What made you change your approach?  Could it be that you booked for b2b but then experienced an SP who refused to remove her knickers?  Oh, hang on, now I remember you said this never happened to you 

[Jasonk71]

Perhaps when starting a thread, you could do it from your own experience?

Maybe you should look at get some decent punts rather than shite ones

[Jasonk71]

So you've started this thread to moan about something on behalf of other members even though you have no first hand experience.

Can you link to where members that it has happened to have complained about it.   

I'm not going to do your donkey work for you. You can read through the various reviews in the *massage* sections

[daviemac]

I'm not going to do your donkey work for you. You can read through the various reviews in the *massage* sections

That wasn't a request it was an instruction, just put politely, just to show this isn't a troll thread.

BTW I'll look through 10 reviews randomly and if there's no complaints as you suggest then I will presume you are a troll. However this is something you have seen reported so you would know where to find the reviews.

[Jasonk71]

That wasn't a request it was an instruction, just put politely, just to show this isn't a troll thread.

BTW I'll look through 10 reviews randomly and if there's no complaints as you suggest then I will presume you are a troll. However this is something you have seen reported so you would know where to find the reviews.

Iloveoral has stated that it has happened to him. This was said in the Margarita thread

[daviemac]

Iloveoral has stated that it has happened to him. This was said in the Margarita thread

You aren't helping yourself, there's Margarita threads all over the forum.

Link to where he is complaining about it.

Edit

She has a little g-string on, I’ve got my hand in from the back and I think it was the piss flaps I touched but there’s that much going on down there, she’s not a light weight, it was more of a search and lucky dip, a map would certainly help 

For the money it’s amazing but bare in mind she is a big girl with floppy big tits, it’s not a swimwear model, I’m going to revisit one day

No complaint about it, in fact he didn't seem to mind, so what is the point of this thread.   

[Jasonk71]

Margarita-NG3 thread. Comment was posted  at 2216

[daviemac]

Margarita-NG3 thread. Comment was posted  at 2216

The one I've quoted, the one where he isn't complaining about it, just pointing it out.   

[limarasa9]

My 2 pence worth: Looks like the OP started the post to get some opinions on what others do when they come across a B2B provider that doesn’t remove their knickers. I don’t understand why there is so much scrutiny of his sentences while it looks like (looking at his reviews) he is someone who has contributed to this site compared to so many others!

Disclaimer: I don’t use the services of massage parlours, just making this observation as a neutral 

[sparkus]

I've experienced knickers on b2b a couple of times, including when I knew that was on the cards due to previous reviews from here.

A lot more common is 'b2b' when they just stand at the side of the table naked and rub chebs on back for a few seconds before a HE

[marc_hotsteppa]

I've noticed that a lot of providers do B2B. I've noticed recently that a few providers will refuse to remove knickers. To me this is completely unacceptable

This reads like you have experienced it yourself.

 Admit it, you had a bit of a brain fart

[daviemac]

My 2 pence worth: Looks like the OP started the post to get some opinions on what others do when they come across a B2B provider that doesn’t remove their knickers. I don’t understand why there is so much scrutiny of his sentences while it looks like (looking at his reviews) he is someone who has contributed to this site compared to so many others!

Disclaimer: I don’t use the services of massage parlours, just making this observation as a neutral 

I can only read and go off what's written in the post, it's very dangerous ground to start to decide they mean something different to what they've posted. His OP gives the impression it is something he has experienced.

The OP has had plenty of opportunity to clarify what he meant and to give some examples of where he has seen it, but he has chosen not to, why does he need to know how to do something he already does successfully.   

[spiralnotebook]

I think there has been a change in provider perspective. Maybe up to 5 years ago if B2B was chosen it was naked with fanny arse tit massaging pretty much expected and given. There has been a number of occasions for me over the last couple of years where B2B has been tits out, a quick titty rub from the side of the table and a hand job, equally from Thai / Chinese providers. There used to be a section in Loaded magazine called ‘getting away with it’ I wonder if this is the accepted new  ‘norm’ adopted by some of them?
A fairly recent conversation with an indie had her telling me she doesn’t do massage parlours because she ‘did not like being told what to charge for extras and I how I did them’.
Part of the interpretation of what consists of B2B doing the rounds and getting away with it for some?

[Colston36]

Margarita-NG3 thread. Comment was posted  at 2216

6 years ago! And all about something the writer hasn't experienced. Astounding!

[JasonsAllRound]

I don’t see b2b as value for money from what I’ve experienced. As others have said, some ‘b2b’ offers consists of boobs out/naked and usual HE. I did visit a SP who I knew did b2b with a thong, but I knew that and she did provide good b2b, however some just class it as taking their top off for the last 10 minutes or so or provide b2b for a matter of minutes/seconds. I rarely go for b2b due to this if offered towards the end of the session and will only have it if they’re naked from the start.

[workinallweek]

 maybe they are pre op ....

[contentguy]

Maybe you should look at get some decent punts rather than shite ones

My reviews relate to my experiences, if you have a problem with that, it’s your f*cking problem.  I suggest you don’t read them.

Contrast it to this thread.  It’s based on a ‘problem’ you have no experience of and have been unable to evidence others experienced the problem.

Whilst it”s very thoughtful of you to raise a red flag on this important issue, it only seems to exist between your ears.

 

[Adoniron]

I don’t see b2b as value for money from what I’ve experienced. As others have said, some ‘b2b’ offers consists of boobs out/naked and usual HE. I did visit a SP who I knew did b2b with a thong, but I knew that and she did provide good b2b, however some just class it as taking their top off for the last 10 minutes or so or provide b2b for a matter of minutes/seconds. I rarely go for b2b due to this if offered towards the end of the session and will only have it if they’re naked from the start.

It can be good VFM if done right. I've had an hour of proper massage and excellent for under £100 which is as good value as a full service escort charging £120 for 30 minutes or £200 for an hour.

[FlaccidChimp]

This is a problem of what B2B actually covers. I expect them to get fully naked although a few times they haven't. I also expect the girl to get on the bed or table and rub her body on me, including some grinding. I've had a few girls agree to body 2 body the lean over the table rubbing their beasts on me, thinking that's acceptable. 

[sparkus]

This is a problem of what B2B actually covers. I expect them to get fully naked although a few times they haven't. I also expect the girl to get on the bed or table and rub her body on me, including some grinding. I've had a few girls agree to body 2 body the lean over the table rubbing their beasts on me, thinking that's acceptable. 

TBF, in the past I've encountered WGs who've said you can't finish inside them while wearing a condom as it's "too risky" (and one massage chick who claimed it'd "make her a prostitute"!)

[luv2kiss54]

I've experienced knickers on b2b a couple of times, including when I knew that was on the cards due to previous reviews from here.

A lot more common is 'b2b' when they just stand at the side of the table naked and rub chebs on back for a few seconds before a HE

Err exactly what i said a few posts back !

[Heph]

This is a problem of what B2B actually covers. I expect them to get fully naked although a few times they haven't. I also expect the girl to get on the bed or table and rub her body on me, including some grinding. I've had a few girls agree to body 2 body the lean over the table rubbing their beasts on me, thinking that's acceptable. 

Similar experiences here. However, unlike the OP, I haven't concluded that it's unacceptable because on a few of the occasions that it's happened, a very sensual time has been had, partly *helped* by the flimsy bit of gusset material, or else it's provided a basis for trust.  But yes, equally I've also had a few who seem to have mistakenly thought that a mere rub of boobs would qualify as B2B - and obvs, it doesn't.