Problems after seeing WGs that offer bareback?

[Stealthshagger]

Delicious Jane has fetched up in Southampton & I was thinking of seeing her.  Are you saying that she does BB?  It's not in her profile, but if she is I have no interest.  Please advise, the thread has become ambiguous.  Thanks!

I asked if owo was extra and she replied that she did all bareback ( sex, anal and bj without)  for x amount. i texted back no thanks. I dont see barebackers.

[smiths]

Is that really a good idea? My thinking is a WG deciding to stop doing BB is a good thing in general for her and labelling her as a STD ridden BB whore for life is probably not going to help her get her life back on the correct path. As we have said before, just because an escort doesn't offer BB doesn't mean they aren't BB all and sundry in a parking lot in Romford on a Friday evening in the pursuit of their dogging hobby...

IF a WG has at any time advertised she offered BB that was her responsibility as an adult, i see nothing wrong if a punter wishes to inform others that she once offered it. I for one would appreciate a punter i see as credible informing me so i can avoid the WG.

Its not my concern regarding her getting her life back on the correct path, thats her business and not something i want to know about. Dont offer BB to every Tom, Dick and Abdul and this wouldnt be a scenario that would happen.

What a WG does in her private life is of course something most punters wont know about, but at least those of us that dont wish to meet let alone punt with those that at any time advertised they offered BB can avoid these idiots.

[cunnyhunt]

A similar thread covered some of this before

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=23113.75

I now use 2 phones now to try and establish if a WG offers BB when it is not on the profile. The hit rate is approx 50-60% for offering it.

[rolf32313]

IF a WG has at any time advertised she offered BB that was her responsibility as an adult, i see nothing wrong if a punter wishes to inform others that she once offered it. I for one would appreciate a punter i see as credible informing me so i can avoid the WG.

Its not my concern regarding her getting her life back on the correct path, thats her business and not something i want to know about. Dont offer BB to every Tom, Dick and Abdul and this wouldnt be a scenario that would happen.

What a WG does in her private life is of course something most punters wont know about, but at least those of us that dont wish to meet let alone punt with those that at any time advertised they offered BB can avoid these idiots.

I think your being optimistic at best, let me give you an example, I saw this woman last week External Link/Members Only, It was nothing to write home about and the pictures were very flattering to say the least. Last week she didn't offer BB but half way through the meet suggested I could just slide it in for extra (at the time I was on top kissing and my dick was pushing against her pussy if you know what I mean.. transaction declined!). This week she is openly advertising BB. So last week you could have turned up and given her a good session of RO after Tom, Dick and Abdul had fully unloaded their STD infected loads inside her pussy BB. I personally always assume the worse and never relay on her AW profile or any anonymous board for my risk assessment. Just because she doesn't have BB on profile doesn't mean she isn't into fucking gay heroin addicts BB after cutting their dicks with a razor...

[smiths]

I think your being optimistic at best, let me give you an example, I saw this woman last week External Link/Members Only, It was nothing to write home about and the pictures were very flattering to say the least. Last week she didn't offer BB but half way through the meet suggested I could just slide it in for extra (at the time I was on top kissing and my dick was pushing against her pussy if you know what I mean.. transaction declined!). This week she is openly advertising BB. So last week you could have turned up and given her a good session of RO after Tom, Dick and Abdul had fully unloaded their STD infected loads inside her pussy BB. I personally always assume the worse and never relay on her AW profile or any anonymous board for my risk assessment. Just because she doesn't have BB on profile doesn't mean she isn't into fucking gay heroin addicts BB after cutting their dicks with a razor...

Of course it doesnt mean a WG isnt offering BB but as punters we can only go on what we see a WG advertises, or are told by other punters we find credible. So if they have advertised they offer BB i see nothing wrong with informing other punters. That was my point.

[punk]

I think your being optimistic at best, let me give you an example, I saw this woman last week External Link/Members Only, It was nothing to write home about and the pictures were very flattering to say the least. Last week she didn't offer BB but half way through the meet suggested I could just slide it in for extra (at the time I was on top kissing and my dick was pushing against her pussy if you know what I mean.. transaction declined!). This week she is openly advertising BB. So last week you could have turned up and given her a good session of RO after Tom, Dick and Abdul had fully unloaded their STD infected loads inside her pussy BB. I personally always assume the worse and never relay on her AW profile or any anonymous board for my risk assessment. Just because she doesn't have BB on profile doesn't mean she isn't into fucking gay heroin addicts BB after cutting their dicks with a razor...

you want to get your self tested this pro's been offering BB on and off for years most in her group do.

[Mackydees]

I accept all this but going back to my original post - has anyone ever encountered a WG with an sti at all? It's all speculation.

This all might just be like that "Don't die of ignorance" AIDS campaign in the 1980s - but few people did die - ignorant or otherwise.

I'm shocked that you could see this as "speculation". The odds that out of the hundreds of girls on AW offering BB there isn't one with an STI must be massive. It just takes 1, if they then sleep with 20 blokes and infect them, 5 of these 20 then see a different BB escort a week later then in 1 week you've got 6 infected escorts (and 140 infected clients). A week later and it's 36 escorts and 800+ clients.

Give it a few moe weeks and chances are the BB girl you're interested in will be 1 of those statistics.

[InstaPunt]

I would be amazed if nearly all WGs hadnt done BB at some stage in their career (either by accident or intent) - but the professional WGs get tested regularly, have got hepatitis A jabs etc and so it comes down to the same old question - OW or OWO - risk and reward. 

I think there is some truth in this. From personal preference and experience: I have never seen any girl more than 4 times so would not say that I have become a regular with any girl over a long period. For me BB as like/service is a no no and if its been advertised once then thats more than enough to never visit her, if its offered as an extra when I arrive then I will decline and leave. But I have noticed one two occasions when things were very passionate gfe that the body language of the girls and way that they were rubbing their vaginas against my shaft etc meant that if I wanted to I could of slide it in and I very much doubt that they would of objected or even said that's extra.
My intuition tells me, when it comes to BB there different types of girls, first two are obvious, 1) there are girls who will do it for anyone and advertise it openly, 2) Girls who advertise it in private when they meet the client or wait until they are asked. Then we come into the shades of grey 3) Girls who offer it only to regular clients, different girls might have different criteria's based on number of visits or superficial things and their own intuition  4) Girls who do it based on attraction or how they get along with the guy during the booking, e.g if the WG really gets into she might forget or abandon her better senses and just go with the flow.

[JV547845]

5) Those who can't turn it down to a rich city boy or wealthy arab who's paying them a couple of grand

[punk]

All this bare back shit that is going on is enough to quit punting 

[jcdmj12]

There is the small matter of possible criminal charges (convictions have been given of 2 years in jail) for knowingly spreading HIV.  So while, in your opinion, they may have nothing to lose in going bb when carrying HIV, there are other possible repercussions.

Punting is a risk/reward business, every punter/WG is different in what they deem to be an acceptable level of risk.  Personally, I add girls to my blacklist who offer bareback as that's a risk too far for me and I don't want to associate with prossies who deem this as a reasonable risk to take.  Others may think differently.

I get checked fairly regularly at the GUM clinic, even though I try to minimise my risk, it's still a nerve racking moment getting the results.

Yes, regular GUM clinic trips are good to keep you honest.  Whenever I'm waiting for the results , I think how much scarier it would be if I'd really done something high risk like BB.

[pierrot]

Bareback is in my opinion the new OWO 20 years ago you were hard pushed to find a girl who did OWO, now its the opposite.
There's no doubt its a sought out service and some are prepared to offer it without publishing it.

[Travel]

Without wishing to sound like a nut job I think I should point out a few facts.

It is very difficult for a man to catch HIV from a woman through vaginal sex. It's way less than 1% chance. There has not been one case of hiv infection via oral sex. Unlike Hep B which is much more contagious and you can get vaccinated for. How many people here are vaccinated against Hep b?

Also, if you are receiving oral without or giving oral you are at risk of all the other diseases such as

Chlamydia
Gonorrhoea (there is a drug resistant strain going around now)
Syphillis
Herpes

So if you are out having oral without and are having a moan about Girls barebacking, you are on shaky ground. Some girl that's swallowing 10 loads a day or giving owo 10 times a day is just as likely to send you home with an STI. In either case it's unlikely to be HIV

[vw]

Without wishing to sound like a nut job I think I should point out a few facts.

It is very difficult for a man to catch HIV from a woman through vaginal sex. It's way less than 1% chance. There has not been one case of hiv infection via oral sex. Unlike Hep B which is much more contagious and you can get vaccinated for. How many people here are vaccinated against Hep b?

Also, if you are receiving oral without or giving oral you are at risk of all the other diseases such as

Chlamydia
Gonorrhoea (there is a drug resistant strain going around now)
Syphillis
Herpes

So if you are out having oral without and are having a moan about Girls barebacking, you are on shaky ground. Some girl that's swallowing 10 loads a day or giving owo 10 times a day is just as likely to send you home with an STI. In either case it's unlikely to be HIV

One of the megan carter may fan club i notice, come to state the obvious on a thread that has no comments for 3 years.   

[shagmore]

Interesting problem/ dilemma.
BB is frowned up and not a good idea, but we all know we prefer it. (not saying we are going to do it, just prefer it)
Now, assuming you are with a civie, how long is it that you wait till you start banging her without a condom, you wouldn't on your first sexual encounter. 1 week, 2 weeks, a month.?
Before that time you don't know how many guys she has seen or her history so its a lottery as well. The point trying to make is that either way (WGs or civie) there is a risk. You just have to know that and reduce as much as possible.
At the end of the day we all like shagging, thats why we are on here to get info to serve us better in our hunt for clunge whilst minimising the risk
Happy fucking guys, but be careful.
 

[Bangers and Gash]

How many people here are vaccinated against Hep b?

 

[PatMacGroin]

How many people here are vaccinated against Hep b?

Yep. It's not compulsory, but it is a recommended shot if you spend time in South East Asia or the Middle East.

Vaccination only lasts about 20 years though, so I might have to look into get it topped up. Although, it's not actually that serious a disease. I'd be much more worried about getting any of the others you mentioned.

[pewpewpew]

Imagine if you could get vaccinated against hiv, Chlamydia, gonnorhea etc. That would be a punting game changer

[bigmanbigman]

Hep b good for 5 years only !

[dynatron]

at the end of the day its a game of chance isnt it -go with a barebacker and you will stand a high chance of getting infected along the way which is fine if you can deal with it should the worst happen-not just dealing with the problem you have but also that of your partner etc if you have one-for me personally these days its too much of a risk although i did take that chance a couple of times in the 1970s/80s when young-now in my fifties and a lot wiser i wouldant take the chance but its a personal choice isnt it.

[king tarzan]

There was a honey I saw in Wembley
Really fit sexy hungarian brunette
She worked harrow Wembley east london at £90 per hour
Some of you might know who I am on about
Really nice green blue eyes fit figure liked to work out
She done oral with..
Anyway saw her asked politely about owo she said big fat no.
So left it... sex was obviously protected..

Then I think she showed up in Jersey then back to London and her likes lost now included owo and bareback. .
I shit my pants until I worked out easily when I saw her she was oral with sex protection and very safe sex player..
How she changed!!

[PatMacGroin]

Hep b good for 5 years only !

Really? I must have been given some wrong info somewhere, or miss remembered it. I'll check with my GP  if my shots are up to date next time I have an exotic trip planned. Cheers for the info.

I don't BB, but I've ended up in hospital a few times abroad. Your chancing your luck with them as much as with any foreign whore.

[vw]

Really? I must have been given some wrong info somewhere, or miss remembered it. I'll check with my GP  if my shots are up to date next time I have an exotic trip planned. Cheers for the info.

I don't BB, but I've ended up in hospital a few times abroad. Your chancing your luck with them as much as with any foreign whore.

DSE in London check if you are vaccinated as part of the blood test.

[Wowee]

I accept all this but going back to my original post - has anyone ever encountered a WG with an sti at all? It's all speculation.

This all might just be like that "Don't die of ignorance" AIDS campaign in the 1980s - but few people did die - ignorant or otherwise.

Yep, that's the thing.. we all remember the scare stories from the '80s about AIDS, which was subsequently thought to be OTT as transmission amongst heterosexuals was virtually non-existent.

More surprising to me is the lack of woes and fear about herpes, which we could get off any of those mouths that suck us off without protection.

[Derrick101]

I bypass any profile that offers BB, but have been refused bookings on the basis that one WG I have seen in the past now offers it.

[sean70]

Chaps I have posted this before so will say it again.

1. Firstly stating the obvious punting is not for the faint hearted.

2. The risks as per this thread are real and greater then we might want to admit.

3. Many WGs are offering BB under the table and/or to so call "trusted" regulars... I was challenged when I posted this comment last time by a few punters "well it's never happened to me or I am surprised you say that..."

4. In my early punting journey (before I joined UKP) I lost count the amount of times BB was on the table and this was not by Roms/other EE SPs. There was no way of me spotting this via due diligence before the punt.

5. Be very sure as the sun rises in the morning if you have seen a girl and then discover say 6 months later/1 year later she now offers bareback but didn't even do OWO when you saw her then to me I take the view she always offered bareback it just may not have been offered to you for whatever reason.

Stay safe chaps and happy punting