If the law changes, will you still punt?

[SUMO61]

Should the law change and paying for sex between consenting adults in a non - brothel environment became illegal, would you still punt with independent WGs?

I have to say, I would'nt. Not prepared to risk a criminal record...

[vw]

Yes, will probably make it more enjoyable due to a bit more adrenaline coursing through my veins.

Probably put the fluffies off to so that cant be a bad thing !

[iPad3]

Should the law change and paying for sex between consenting adults in a non - brothel environment became illegal, would you still punt with independent WGs?

I have to say, I would'nt. Not prepared to risk a criminal record...

Can't see it happening and if it did how the fuck would they prove it.

[SUMO61]

Can't see it happening and if it did how the fuck would they prove it.

Was that a Yes or a No?

[smiths]

Should the law change and paying for sex between consenting adults in a non - brothel environment became illegal, would you still punt with independent WGs?

I have to say, I would'nt. Not prepared to risk a criminal record...

I would need to see how the law was worded and how its reported the police have been enforcing it or not. Such a law is bad news for punters of course BUT it doesn't mean all top cops will enforce it just as they don't now with brothels and the street scene, both illegal and both thriving in some areas. Purges would be more likely in my opinion.

[LanceVance]

Can't see it happening and if it did how the fuck would they prove it.

Agreed. But if it were to happen, I would have to think veey carefully about punting and how I go about doing so.

[cueball]

It would become more difficult to find but you'd find a way, it'd become like a secret club

So, yes, I'd carry on

[justfornow]

too many cops are punters themselves....YES

[threechilliman]

too many cops are punters themselves....YES

I'm sure that's one of the reasons a blind eye is turned.

Wouldn't stop me. I plan with military precision anyway and as VW says, it would add to the adrenaline rush.

tcm

[Ben4454]

I do not see them enforcing it

-- They have real criminals to chase to keep them busy enough.

Not two consenting adults who are having a bit of fun behind closed doors away from the public

All I see is sting operations taking place via communications trying to establish intent and the act of going through with it.

It's a bit like drunk girls who cannot consent to sex -- must be a lot of rape going on in the nightclubs and peoples bedrooms on a saturday night! You don't see police hanging out by hotels waiting to mob some horny drunk clubbers!

They might completely ban porn because technically you're paying someone to have sex in front of a camera... or maybe since feminists love porn they might deem it legal.

[Bluefin]

I can't see it happening in the UK as I reckon too many members of the "establishment " are secret punters.

[Jamboney]

100% yes

[willmo1]

If the likes of AW and the other sites were shut down it would make life very difficult. Back to the cards in phone boxes if you can find one these days. I would but it would be hard going.

[pierrot]

I would imagine so I've punted in the USA which is difficult, you just need to do proper research and planning.

[Ben4454]

The Nordic model doesn't work in protecting sex workers it puts them at bigger risks.

All you have to do is read about the murders of Dora Özer and Petite Jasmine on the 9th and 11 of July 2013. you see how the "Swedish model" utterly failed them.

Pimps won't stop pimping and people will be still punting. You can't stop something that has gone on throughout history - people still punt in Sweden.

[SJ772]

I think I would continue, but would be a lot more careful, hard to see how they would enforce it anyway, would never go near another massage parlour for sure.

[np500]

Best start collecting phone numbers !

[iPad3]

Was that a Yes or a No?

It's a yes from me,

If a law was passed though will the price go up or down, it would certainly mean the prossies having to work a lot harder to find work.

[Ben4454]

It's a yes from me,

If a law was passed though will the price go up or down, it would certainly mean the prossies having to work a lot harder to find work.

Most will just drop off AW and switch to webcamming in my opinion.

[Majestic]

Out of interest, does anyone know how the Nordic model is policed in Sweden etc.?

[Ben4454]

Out of interest, does anyone know how the Nordic model is policed in Sweden etc.?

I do not know about Sweden but in Northern Ireland they raided a brothel and arrested a guy there for paying for sex and the pimp.

I may stop punting because of the blackmail opportunities women will have over us punters if paying for sex is illegal.

[NIK]

Not this again!
For fuck's sake how many more times do I have to say they will never stop men paying women for sex.   

[MrRiz]

I'd stop immediately. Can't take the risk.

Plus the paranoia of stings / police incentives to turn information revealed in other circumstances into a conviction don't make it worth it.

Plus a conviction would immediately end my life.

[pork sword]

I'll keep punting as long as my dick stays hard FUCK any law banning it

[Malvolio]

I don't see this ever happening in the UK, but if it did I'd have a UK punting hiatus for a few months to see how the dust settles and in the meantime sort out a German punting trip that I've been meaning to do.

[rockharders]

I'm sure lots of our MPs use whores. So no the law wont change.

[myothernameis]

Can't see it happening and if it did how the fuck would they prove it.

We never once thought sexual risk orders, no one had even heard of the order, until it was to late, so now; a unknown male must give the police 24 hours notice before engaging in sex

If the law does change, then I could see the police using sexual risk orders; they wont need any prove that you have paid for sex with an escort

[Aspen]

It would become too difficult. For sure some will still do it, but if Sweden and Norway are anything to go by they will target the girls as well and anyone visiting them. The only way round it would be to find regulars you can trust, but once it's in place finding would be the really difficult part.

[robbie54321]

Am I missing something here?
Why has the OP revisited this question. Has something new happened?

[Sonny Crockett]

No definitely not!

[Aspen]

Am I missing something here?
Why has the OP revisited this question. Has something new happened?

I suppose because there has been a new parliamentary inquiry set up which appears very aggressive and set to an agenda of criminalising punters. See other threads.

[robbie54321]

External Link/Members Only

Found it!
We have until the 15/02 to make our voices heard. Has anybody responded to this?

[Ben4454]

More accurate photo would be a working girl smiling in her room waiting for her next punter holding a huge wad of cash. Anyone who loves punting needs to submit some kind of evidence to the site. Anything. A paragraph or some figure which shows the nordic model will not work. Seems to be the last chance.

[Jimmyredcab]

Not this again!
For fuck's sake how many more times do I have to say they will never stop men paying women for sex.   

1000% correct, as long as there are buyers and sellers it will carry on as normal.

[Aspen]

1000% correct, as long as there are buyers and sellers it will carry on as normal.

What do you mean by normal?

If punters are criminalised, as in NI already, then sure it will continue. But it won't be the same or to the same extent. Pretending otherwise is delusionary and ridiculous. That's why we need to combat this kind of stuff.

[vw]

What do you mean by normal?

If punters are criminalised, as in NI already, then sure it will continue. But it won't be the same or to the same extent. Pretending otherwise is delusionary and ridiculous. That's why we need to combat this kind of stuff.

It just evolves, always has always will.  Normality is evolution.

Picking up street prossies was illegal, did it most nights 20 years ago but they moved and had to evolve to buying newspapers then evolved to using the internet.

Punting will always happen in my world

[Jimmyredcab]

It just evolves, always has always will.  Normality is evolution.

Picking up street prossies was illegal, did it most nights 20 years ago but they moved and had to evolve to buying newspapers then evolved to using the internet.

Punting will always happen in my world

Prostitution will not be made illegal under the Tories and we have them for the next nine years, hopefully a lot longer.   

[bakerted]

Yes officer I fucked her but I didn't come!

Seriously would be almost impossible to prove unless you are the target of a sting!

[vw]

Prostitution will not be made illegal under the Tories and we have them for the next nine years, hopefully a lot longer.   

I don't think it will personally, but what ever happens I will evolve.

[willmo1]

Not this again!
For fuck's sake how many more times do I have to say they will never stop men paying women for sex.   

Youre right but weve had it so easy since AW etc. Think a lot of guys will never start out if it becomes hard work.

[Horizontal pleasures]

The Catholicism of the Pope is not in doubt.

[Mutinyonthecounty]

This is laughable.

There is no way MP's would vote for this. I am working on the basis that they love whoring as much as any of us. And even if they did they haven't got the resource to police it.

[AnthG]

This is laughable.

There is no way MP's would vote for this. I am working on the basis that they love whoring as much as any of us. And even if they did they haven't got the resource to police it.

But they did in Ireland though.

Not this again!
For fuck's sake how many more times do I have to say they will never stop men paying women for sex.   

Is it just me, or does anyone else think these constant threads coming up on this one issue all the time where punters say if this comes into force they will stop punting, will be read by these very people to then justify actually pushing this law change through showing it will work in deterring punters as here is the evidence on the UKs largest punting forum.

[Jimmyredcab]

Yes officer I fucked her but I didn't come!

Seriously would be almost impossible to prove unless you are the target of a sting!

They do carry out stings in America, I can't see it happening here, we simply don't have the resources.

[charming_red]

This is laughable.

There is no way MP's would vote for this. I am working on the basis that they love whoring as much as any of us. And even if they did they haven't got the resource to police it.

Theres over 190 female MPs and most of these self-righteous cunts will be in favour of criminalising punters.

Thankfully most of the male MPs are probably shagging prossies anyway so will be against it. Hopefully.

[SUMO61]

Not this again!
For fuck's sake how many more times do I have to say they will never stop men paying women for sex.   

Not all men, judging by a few responses on here, oh Great and All Knowing One

[helmsdale]

I would give up punting if it was criminalised but if I just had a great shag with a young hottie I would help her out with her rent money 

[Nagilum]

Banning it will push it underground and therefore make it more dangerous for women and punters alike.  I can't see this happening to be honest, unless they want women to be abused.

[Horizontal pleasures]

Every time you punt in a parlour, or in a flat with more than one lady you (we) are breaking the law already.

[helmsdale]

Every time you punt in a parlour, or in a flat with more than one lady you (we) are breaking the law already.

Cue NIK, not this old chestnut again.  The punter is not breaking the law in this situation, its the prossies but you would be advised not to lie to the police about your name if they raid the premises mid-punt.