Due to Brexit, WGs from EU will now find it almost impossible to get to the UK

[hawai1]

You may have seen news on how EU citizens have been recently arrested at the UK borders and even detained in detention centres before sending them back home...
Reasons? Blamed, or suspected, for coming and seeking work legally or (illegally) while this required them to have a Visa for this purpose BEFORE coming...
WGs from EU will, therefore, have  a big problem face to this new Brexit requirement.
This means the offer will be less than demand  and those WGs already in UK will exploit the situation to put prices up and all the shit of it.
Those European WGs who are already here before may soon be aske to leave if they are in UK for 90 days or get in troubles. 
I read today that EU ( Mainly France and Spain) have now retaliated and imposed lots of conditions for Brits to visit EU such as Medical insurance and even proof of accommodation ( see news UK travellers to EU ...etc

[geostorm1]

Not sure this is relevant to East Midlands discussion.

Also, can't see there being a massive demand for EE girls anyway. Every man and his dog knows they're often crap.

[hungryboy]

The EU girls who have been in the UK a long time and are well established here will have applied for 'Settled Status' and Brexit will not be an issue for them. New girls can come to the UK for a 'holiday', but not stay long term and are not supposed to work - but will of course. Thais, Chinese etc already do this.

British visiting the EU for more than 90 days now need a visa - have to show medical insurance, income etc. That is nothing new - its been like that for decades for 'Third Country' citizens, which is what British now are. Fair enough.

[dubs]

Not sure this is relevant to East Midlands discussion.

Also, can't see there being a massive demand for EE girls anyway. Every man and his dog knows they're often crap.

Roms maybe, but Polish and Hungarian girls are some of the best I’ve seen and with reasonable prices.

[hawai1]

British visiting the EU for more than 90 days now need a visa - have to show medical insurance, income etc. That is nothing new - its been like that for decades for 'Third Country' citizens, which is what British now are. Fair enough.

That's not accurate mate!
1-The medical insurance that was required of us to visit EU BEFORE Brexit was only a free of charge EHIC ( European Health Insurance Certificate ) which was given automatically to every Brit (and to every EU citizen)
2- No income has ever ever been asked to prove when UK was an EU member state
Now you need a private travel insurance which  you have to purchase for the whole duration of your stay in EU. Check the prices online .
Well see this link (if we are allowed to refer to such inks.)
 External Link/Members Only
Hope I am wrong

[hawai1]

Roms maybe, but Polish and Hungarian girls are some of the best I’ve seen and with reasonable prices.

Agree with you. Lets be fair
Many of the girls from these countries ( including Roms) and others are stunning and among some of the best. Just as many of  Brit girls are.
I just avoid those I don't like ..That's it

[hungryboy]

That's not accurate mate!
1-The medical insurance that was required of us to visit EU BEFORE Brexit was only a free of charge EHIC ( European Health Insurance Certificate ) which was given automatically to every Brit (and to every EU citizen)
2- No income has ever ever been asked to prove when UK was an EU member state

Read what I have written. Its 100% accurate. A visa is required for more than 90 days stay in the EU  (medical insurance and proof of income are required when applying for the visa).  For shorter stays the EU country may require proof of medical insurance and evidence of sufficient funds to cover the trip. 
Obviously these were not required prior to Brexit because we were in the EU!  However these requirements have been in place for many years for visitors from non-EU countries (which is what the UK now is). The EHIC is no longer issued by the UK, to be replaced by the UK GHIC, but we are not sure yet what that covers.

[JamesKW]

I am still seeing my Polish prossie and hairdresser and there are still plenty of Romanians and Albanians on the train home and in my town,I don't think anyone has gone,also they can visit for 90 days every 6 months.

[yandex]

Also, can't see there being a massive demand for EE girls anyway. Every man and his dog knows they're often crap.

I think this is a very strange view - there clearly is a demand for EE girls, otherwise there would not be so many on AW. I think you confuse the small part of the membership on here, which tends on the whole to be fairly negative towards some elements of the EE providers, with the punting majority who don't post/aren't members of our esteemed forum.

If there is a decrease in EE service providers, it will be interesting to see whether any pressure comes onto the 'non-EE' providers and whether they will have an increase in dodgy punters/requests as a result.

[southcoastpunter]

Don't they just come here as an "international student"? It seems that the world and his wife come here as that - and works!

[lillythesavage]

All a fuss over nothing, we have had a South American invasion during the pandemic and are they EU ? No one settled here will be asked to leave and they can come and go just as they did before, earn, go home, repeat, they have done it for years.

Our Border force are understaffed and busy rounding up dinghies in the channel, they cannot even round up a couple of hundred people on one plane from India in one airport and make sure they hotel isolate so very much doubt a couple of hookers without a visa are high on the agenda.

Poor attempt at Brexit bashing OP, the pandemic has had more effect on supply than Brexit ever will.

As for medical insurance, only a fool would travel without it to the EU or anywhere else. Private insurance will give you private healthcare, should you need it.

[hawai1]

Read what I have said is that I was saying BEFORE brexit nobody would  ask you about a PRIVATE costly insurance covering the period of you stay in EU because your EHIC covers free of charge all your health care in the same way as you are covered in UK. Also before brexit you only need to apply hassle free for a RESIDENCE permit after 90 days. Now from today you need a VISA that requires you to apply for BEFORE even getting there . And to get that visa your income and your health insurance must be sound and accepted accepted...
UK is taking identical steps  to make it uneasy for EU citizens visiting Britain.
Both sides are screwed.
Read the article I posted

[teddyking]

I hope this isn’t the case. 99% of my punts are Eastern European, I just find them so much attractive than the home grown brits and of course a lot cheaper.

[willie loman]

Having appropriate paperwork is necessary for sauna work etc, but many foreign girls fly in and stay in a airnb, and fly out again, brexit will make no difference to prices and number of girls.

[scutty brown]

You may have seen news on how EU citizens have been recently arrested at the UK borders and even detained in detention centres before sending them back home...
Reasons? Blamed, or suspected, for coming and seeking work legally or (illegally) while this required them to have a Visa for this purpose BEFORE coming...
WGs from EU will, therefore, have  a big problem face to this new Brexit requirement.
This means the offer will be less than demand  and those WGs already in UK will exploit the situation to put prices up and all the shit of it.
Those European WGs who are already here before may soon be aske to leave if they are in UK for 90 days or get in troubles. 
I read today that EU ( Mainly France and Spain) have now retaliated and imposed lots of conditions for Brits to visit EU such as Medical insurance and even proof of accommodation ( see news UK travellers to EU ...etc

You're too naive
Most EE girls are working here illegally anyway. Escorting wasn't recognised as a valid occupation to enable a girl to claim residential status in the UK - and as such they could legally be kicked out at any time. As it was, many girls simply came in and worked off-the-books, paying no tax or NI. A fair number of girls were trafficked in anyway under slave conditions - that won't change.
And if they want to get in easily, that's simple - fly into Dublin and use the ferry. No checks.

[lillythesavage]

Read what I have said is that I was saying BEFORE brexit nobody would  ask you about a PRIVATE costly insurance covering the period of you stay in EU because your EHIC covers free of charge all your health care in the same way as you are covered in UK. Also before brexit you only need to apply hassle free for a RESIDENCE permit after 90 days. Now from today you need a VISA that requires you to apply for BEFORE even getting there . And to get that visa your income and your health insurance must be sound and accepted accepted...
UK is taking identical steps  to make it uneasy for EU citizens visiting Britain.
Both sides are screwed.
Read the article I posted

Man, give up on the doom mongering , not heard Brexit mentioned since the doom did not happen, no crash of the pound, no trucks blocking Kent, no food shortages or big price increases, in fact the only thing I buy that had a big jump in BRITISH LAMB, still get strawberries in winter and that great 99p a bottle Pilsner from Lidl, guess what? still 99p a bottle, big 500ml bottle, and stronger than Stella Artois and tastes better to.

Sure Northern Ireland got a bit of a rough deal, suppose you going to blame the riots on that lol, not the tinderbox the thugs live in and the 2000 strong IRA funeral that lit the blue paper. Nah, Brexit innit.

Reading bollocks and hoping to bring up doom on a punting forum is all you have left, Brexit died as a topic the day the pound bounced, Brexit day

[Straightsix]

All that immigrant bolloxs they sold to others (not me) hasn't materialised. I've never seen so many foreign girls working here in the UK and its great to have that choice. I voted to stay as the excuses to leave didn't make sense to me. Who else is gonna pick lettuce for my sandwiches? the fat fuckers on benefits getting free housing and council tax?

[sparkus]

I think this stands to reason really.

Post 2004 we truly lived in a golden age of punting in London, big chested blondes galore.

I routlinely see porkable Polish civvies near my flat on the train and their skleps.  They won't be replaced by younger models.

[Mr Doodle]

EEs can earn a relative pittance in their own country or they can move to a country where they can offer a value priced service for that country and make a killing in terms of their country. Can't see Brexit stopping that. Happens all over the world.

And yes, they could go to France or Germany, or Austria, or Italy, or any other Western European country, but if you think about it, even pre-Brexit, if those countries were even almost as good for them (earnings, treatment, with the exception of trafficked SPs), they would be there as it would be far more convenient for them to get home every now and then.

Borders haven't stopped people working illegally in other countries before, so doubt they will stop them now. I can't recall us doing immigration paperwork on the way out, so if they overstay, no one will know and they can return without hindrance.

[lillythesavage]

I think this stands to reason really.

Post 2004 we truly lived in a golden age of punting in London, big chested blondes galore.

I routlinely see porkable Polish civvies near my flat on the train and their skleps.  They won't be replaced by younger models.

That we did, maybe they just do not need to sell sex? not for everyone and if options are there why would they.

You only have to have seen the ITV news tonight to see what this country can give if you take the chances that come your way, that young Muslim girl from a refugee family in Brixton got on a horse in Brixton ffs, and 3 months later rode a winner at Goodwood.

Now she could have ridden that wave for all it was worth, but she turned it in to finish Uni, and is giving back, for once I was proud of the old country.

[sparkus]

That we did, maybe they just do not need to sell sex? not for everyone and if options are there why would they.

You only have to have seen the ITV news tonight to see what this country can give if you take the chances that come your way, that young Muslim girl from a refugee family in Brixton got on a horse in Brixton ffs, and 3 months later rode a winner at Goodwood.

Now she could have ridden that wave for all it was worth, but she turned it in to finish Uni, and is giving back, for once I was proud of the old country.

You're not wrong that for whatever reason sex work isn't a preferred vocational option as it used to be.  Hence the sheer number of Brazilian, Romanian and Hungarian WGs in London (compared to, say, French, German or Swedish).

I saw a world class Pole for £30 once and she admitted that she didn't mind working most of the week for a cleaner on a pittance compared to a scuzzy brothel in Stratford.  There was another in Crystals Sauna Leyton who I visited whenever she was on, I jokingly wrote a letter to her parents back home to congratulate them on producing such a pair of chebs.

[lillythesavage]

You're not wrong that for whatever reason sex work isn't a preferred vocational option as it used to be.  Hence the sheer number of Brazilian, Romanian and Hungarian WGs in London (compared to, say, French, German or Swedish).

I saw a world class Pole for £30 once and she admitted that she didn't mind working most of the week for a cleaner on a pittance compared to a scuzzy brothel in Stratford.  There was another in Crystals Sauna Leyton who I visited whenever she was on, I jokingly wrote a letter to her parents back home to congratulate them on producing such a pair of chebs.

Too much online money too, for the lookers and exhibitionist types, other jobs, greedy pimps, crazy rents, scuzzy punters, but all blamed on Brexit innit, while they flood in from South America and elsewhere.
Poland is one of the few to prosper somewhat from EU membership, I know construction workers that went there for work, pre pandemic so that must have some effect too.
Lots have built that house back home, no mortgage, from earnings here, not just SP,s, construction workers, truck drivers etc, lived on a pittance, saved and spent wisely back home, employing others there while working here, maybe the GF turning tricks too, then off they went back home.

Lots of reasons numbers are dwindling, Brexit is not one of them. I used to see one in Barking, worked as a cleaner on the tube, turned a few tricks, went home comfortable, she is not the only one.

The glory days are long gone

[Malvolio]

Read what I have said is that I was saying BEFORE brexit nobody would  ask you about a PRIVATE costly insurance covering the period of you stay in EU because your EHIC covers free of charge all your health care in the same way as you are covered in UK. Also before brexit you only need to apply hassle free for a RESIDENCE permit after 90 days. Now from today you need a VISA that requires you to apply for BEFORE even getting there . And to get that visa your income and your health insurance must be sound and accepted accepted...
UK is taking identical steps  to make it uneasy for EU citizens visiting Britain.
Both sides are screwed.
Read the article I posted

This is incorrect - having an EHIC did not mean you got all of your health treatment for free if you were taken ill when visiting the EU. 

In my view it is foolhardy to travel abroad without buying decent travel insurance that covers your repatriation to the UK if necessary.

[lillythesavage]

This is incorrect - having an EHIC did not mean you got all of your health treatment for free if you were taken ill when visiting the EU. 

In my view it is foolhardy to travel abroad without buying decent travel insurance that covers your repatriation to the UK if necessary.

Exactly, and already pointed out to the Brexit doom monger, thought they all gave up 

[sparkus]

Too much online money too, for the lookers and exhibitionist types, other jobs, greedy pimps, crazy rents, scuzzy punters, but all blamed on Brexit innit, while they flood in from South America and elsewhere.
Poland is one of the few to prosper somewhat from EU membership, I know construction workers that went there for work, pre pandemic so that must have some effect too.
Lots have built that house back home, no mortgage, from earnings here, not just SP,s, construction workers, truck drivers etc, lived on a pittance, saved and spent wisely back home, employing others there while working here, maybe the GF turning tricks too, then off they went back home.

Lots of reasons numbers are dwindling, Brexit is not one of them. I used to see one in Barking, worked as a cleaner on the tube, turned a few tricks, went home comfortable, she is not the only one.

The glory days are long gone

Well there was also the issue that in East London past Zone 3 houses for brothels back then were very cheap to rent, certainly not now.  I suppose you saw that recently with the sheer number, pre-pandemic, of brothels in Ilford and Seven Kings.

A Lithuanian in a sauna told me she worked the summer months picking fruit somewhere in the Midlands and then the fallow months of the year she donned her white sauna tunic.

[RogerBoner]

British visiting the EU for more than 90 days now need a visa - have to show medical insurance, income etc.

Rich Brits don't require any income.

[geostorm1]

Roms maybe, but Polish and Hungarian girls are some of the best I’ve seen and with reasonable prices.

Yeah have to agree with you actually. I jumped the gun with my reply and was generalising to the bad roms. But the ones in East Midlands are mostly bad 

[lillythesavage]

Well there was also the issue that in East London past Zone 3 houses for brothels back then were very cheap to rent, certainly not now.  I suppose you saw that recently with the sheer number, pre-pandemic, of brothels in Ilford and Seven Kings.

A Lithuanian in a sauna told me she worked the summer months picking fruit somewhere in the Midlands and then the fallow months of the year she donned her white sauna tunic.

Yep, Viva was full of them, the other thing is bloody estate agents wanting references, fees and big deposits, hard to rent direct these days, and there are those that specifically rent to SP,s and want a bigger cut for doing so.
If you are fit and efficient, there is a skill to fruit picking, the money is decent and digs are supplied, that is why they like shipping them in, they do the same job back home and know what they are doing.

[Stevelondon]

Not sure this is relevant to East Midlands discussion.

Also, can't see there being a massive demand for EE girls anyway. Every man and his dog knows they're often crap.

Maybe you've just had a bad experience.
Some of my best punts have been with Polish girls and one of my all time favourites was Hungarian.
I also have to say. I know Roms get bad press. But a couple I have seen were incredibly beautiful and the service was up there.
A while ago mind you....maybe  things have changed.

[jonnw16]

Read what I have said is that I was saying BEFORE brexit nobody would  ask you about a PRIVATE costly insurance covering the period of you stay in EU because your EHIC covers free of charge all your health care in the same way as you are covered in UK. Also before brexit you only need to apply hassle free for a RESIDENCE permit after 90 days. Now from today you need a VISA that requires you to apply for BEFORE even getting there . And to get that visa your income and your health insurance must be sound and accepted accepted...
UK is taking identical steps  to make it uneasy for EU citizens visiting Britain.
Both sides are screwed.
Read the article I posted

Firstly the article is sourced from the Guardian, so that tells you what slant they are trying to portray. And secondly it does seem to be a lot of conjecture, the word "may" is used quite a lot, including in the headline.

[Colston36]

Roms maybe, but Polish and Hungarian girls are some of the best I’ve seen and with reasonable prices.

Two of the best I saw are  Romanian and the three worst were English - but generally I agree.

[lillythesavage]

Firstly the article is sourced from the Guardian, so that tells you what slant they are trying to portray. And secondly it does seem to be a lot of conjecture, the word "may" is used quite a lot, including in the headline.

The Guardian, they must have built themselves up for some serious Brexit bashing and a dead pound lol, now they resort to maybe, could be, what if bollocks to keep clowns in a job.

Not sure what is worse, the Op posting it here or the writer in the first place

[yandex]

The Guardian, they must have built themselves up for some serious Brexit bashing and a dead pound lol, now they resort to maybe, could be, what if bollocks to keep clowns in a job.

Not sure what is worse, the Op posting it here or the writer in the first place

Why do you keep trying to turn this into a Brexit debate? It's a banned topic.

The OP was raising the issue of a lack of EE WGs, something which currently doesn't seem to be as bad as anticipated.

[sparkus]

Why do you keep trying to turn this into a Brexit debate? It's a banned topic.

The OP was raising the issue of a lack of EE WGs, something which currently doesn't seem to be as bad as anticipated.

I think we can discuss the real world consequences of Brexit (of which there are many tangible examples) without straying into politics.

Boris didn't exactly write '70s tits British stunners if we leave' on the side of that bus.

[yandex]

I think we can discuss the real world consequences of Brexit (of which there are many tangible examples) without straying into politics.

Boris didn't exactly write '70s tits British stunners if we leave' on the side of that bus.

You can, and I already have earlier on in the thread.

This, on the other hand

Exactly, and already pointed out to the Brexit doom monger, thought they all gave up 

and this

Man, give up on the doom mongering , not heard Brexit mentioned since the doom did not happen, no crash of the pound, no trucks blocking Kent, no food shortages or big price increases, in fact the only thing I buy that had a big jump in BRITISH LAMB, still get strawberries in winter and that great 99p a bottle Pilsner from Lidl, guess what? still 99p a bottle, big 500ml bottle, and stronger than Stella Artois and tastes better to.

Sure Northern Ireland got a bit of a rough deal, suppose you going to blame the riots on that lol, not the tinderbox the thugs live in and the 2000 strong IRA funeral that lit the blue paper. Nah, Brexit innit.

Reading bollocks and hoping to bring up doom on a punting forum is all you have left, Brexit died as a topic the day the pound bounced, Brexit day

is trolling for a reaction about Brexit.

[JamesKW]

Poland is one of the few to prosper somewhat from EU membership, I know construction workers that went there for work, pre pandemic so that must have some effect too.

Exactly,The President in Poland has been offering benefits to his citizens like there is no tomorrow (using EU funds) so young Polish have no reason to come here anymore.

[petermisc]

Why do you keep trying to turn this into a Brexit debate? It's a banned topic.

Suggest you read the thread title:

Due to Brexit, WGs from EU, will now find it almost impossible to get to the UK.

[petermisc]

While Brexit has certainly not made it impossible for European WGs to come here, it has certainly made the UK less attractive to them.  I know several EE WGs who were complaining that the drop in the value of the pound compared to the Euro meant that their earnings here are now worth far less when sent back home.  And while it is possible for a girl to come here fairly easily as a "tourist", if she wants to stay a year or two and make reasonably frequent return visits home she could well run into trouble.  And if a girl is working here illegally, the more stringent controls on landlords renting to "illegals" has made it much harder to rent places as independents.  Places like Germany now look that much more attractive prospects, with less hassle, better take-home pay, etc.

Let's face it, with the choice of two equally-talented WGs, one of whom is a hassle to book and charges more, and the other who is easy to visit and costs less, which would you book?  WGs will likewise make the choice of which country to work in based on how much hassle is involved and how much she is likely to take home.

However, at present, travel restrictions are currently having a much greater effect, and I doubt we will know the true impact of Brexit on the supply of EE WGs until we get back to normal post covid.

[lillythesavage]

You can, and I already have earlier on in the thread.

This, on the other hand

and this

is trolling for a reaction about Brexit.

Read the thread title, and how the fuck is telling the doom monger to leave it out trolling for a Brexit reaction, been done to death and fuck all happened, the OP is trolling for a Brexit reaction from the title of his thread to his way of posting 

[yandex]

The thread, as I see it, is about the impact on the supply of EE wg's based on the very real story of people being stopped and arrested at the borders.

As has been pointed out, it's a consequence of Brexit, but can be discussed without glorying in, or trolling about how anyone who voted against Brexit is somehow mentally subnormal. There's a long way to go before we really know what Brexit means.

[MysteryManNo.7]

The thread, as I see it, is about the impact on the supply of EE wg's based on the very real story of people being stopped and arrested at the borders.

As has been pointed out, it's a consequence of Brexit, but can be discussed without glorying in, or trolling about how anyone who voted against Brexit is somehow mentally subnormal. There's a long way to go before we really know what Brexit means.

This reads like something a remoaner who cannot get over the fact that Brexit was not a complete and utter failure and may have actually been a fantastic decision would say. Rather than admit you were wrong, clinging desperately to the hope that the country may yet somehow completely collapse due to Brexit to prove that you weren't completely and utterly wrong all along.

[Kelgon85]

I was a remainer, I admit, but I have to ask whether our vaccine rollout would have been what it has been if we were still in the EU.

[RogerBoner]

This reads like something a remoaner who cannot get over the fact that Brexit was not a complete and utter failure and may have actually been a fantastic decision would say. Rather than admit you were wrong, clinging desperately to the hope that the country may yet somehow completely collapse due to Brexit to prove that you weren't completely and utterly wrong all along.

Plus won.
 

[yandex]

This reads like something a remoaner who cannot get over the fact that Brexit was not a complete and utter failure and may have actually been a fantastic decision would say. Rather than admit you were wrong, clinging desperately to the hope that the country may yet somehow completely collapse due to Brexit to prove that you weren't completely and utterly wrong all along.

What a ridiculous thing to say. I live here and work here. My family live here and work here. My friends live here and work here. Why on earth would I want the country to fall apart just to prove some sort of point? I don't know how old you are, but I lived through the massive upheaval of the 70s and 80s and it wasn't pretty. I have no desire to see it again.

I've made my point about the thread, it's nothing to do with 'remoaning'. I've never said anything about Brexit being a bad idea or that it will all end in doom. Even ardent Brexiteers have said it will take years to feel the full effects and you'd have to be pretty dumb to think it's done and dusted after the year we've had.

I'm happy to read what others write, but seriously, try to be at least a bit sensible.

[dynatron]

im sure girls from eu will find some way of getting here if they want-lets be honest everyone else from other countries seem to manage it in the back of a lorry or crossing the channel in a boat-dont think anything is going to change anytime soon

[petermisc]

im sure girls from eu will find some way of getting here if they want-lets be honest everyone else from other countries seem to manage it in the back of a lorry or crossing the channel in a boat-dont think anything is going to change anytime soon

No-one is saying that they won't.  Its just that coming to the UK has gained a lot more hassle, and become less lucrative, making the UK a less attractive proposition.  They don't have to hide in the back of a lorry, or hope that they don't get caught overstaying their tourist visa, or get clobbered by poor currency conversion rates, if they go to Germany, for example, so why put themselves through that coming to the UK?

[southcoastpunter]

No-one is saying that they won't.  Its just that coming to the UK has gained a lot more hassle, and become less lucrative, making the UK a less attractive proposition.  They don't have to hide in the back of a lorry, or hope that they don't get caught overstaying their tourist visa, or get clobbered by poor currency conversion rates, if they go to Germany, for example, so why put themselves through that coming to the UK?

so if all the EE WG's that used to come here and/or the new ones that would have otherwise come her now go to Germany, what will happen to the German marketplace? It will be overcrowded and prices may drop so it becomes less attractive and if our market place sees some uplift in prices it becomes more attractive again!

Frankly we can speculate but we just have to wait and see what happens!

[Henry767]

 Instead of mentioning Brexit, we could refer t o " the UK's new status as a third country with regard to the EU, and the new UK immigration rules which have ended freedom of movement and employment for UK nationals except in certain circumstances and subject to conditions"

Non- controversial and factual enough?

[Henry767]

I meant freedom of movement for EU nationals.

[scutty brown]

I meant freedom of movement for EU nationals.

You got it pretty accurate the first time