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Offline Bum Lovin Criminal

In the Metro today was the article.."STDs can be cauugt by deep kissing"...... :scare:  or something like  that.

It  said." French kissing may be responsible for spreading Gonorrhoea a study shows"..Australian researchers say deep kissing

with tongues may be an important and neglected route for passing on throat or Oropharyngeal Gonorrhoea.

They also say that gargling with antiseptic mouthwash could help stop the spread of the disease..

I must admit, this is something I've been doing since last year...Straight after a punt, I'd gargle with Listerine ( because Brandy's not

allowed when driving)and rub it over my lips too as it's at least 29% proof  or  vol or something... 

Now, most punters will admit, that good DFK can make a good punt exceptional, without it, well,..it's just a shag..

Question is,will this change the way YOU punt?.. :)

Offline wylie anchor

Scaremongering bollocks imho

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Not a new thing. When I did my nursing training over 30 years ago we did a stint in the GUM clinic. Plenty of oral cases.

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Offline Strawberry

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In the Metro today was the article.."STDs can be cauugt by deep kissing"...... :scare:  or something like  that.

It  said." French kissing may be responsible for spreading Gonorrhoea a study shows"..Australian researchers say deep kissing

with tongues may be an important and neglected route for passing on throat or Oropharyngeal Gonorrhoea.

They also say that gargling with antiseptic mouthwash could help stop the spread of the disease..

I must admit, this is something I've been doing since last year...Straight after a punt, I'd gargle with Listerine ( because Brandy's not

allowed when driving)and rub it over my lips too as it's at least 29% proof  or  vol or something... 

Now, most punters will admit, that good DFK can make a good punt exceptional, without it, well,..it's just a shag..

Question is,will this change the way YOU punt?.. :)

This sort of story has been doing the rounds for years, pops up at least once every 12 months often alternating with the 'super gonorhea' outbreak news. That doesn't mean there isn't any risk, just it's not particularly suddenly new.

Mouthwash is sort of here and there, several dentists tell me regards dental hygiene mouthwash has no effect. Yes there's been some proof it can help reduce transmission of gonorhea however the alcohol content in the version thought to be protective could be abrasive and also contribute towards oral cancers.

So consult qualified experts at the GUM clinic, try to obtain oral swabs (men often have to pretend they give other men blow jobs) and keep intercourse protected. For ultimate protection only practice OW, but for many the risk:benefit ratio falls on the side of OWO. Assess practice and stick to the regime.
« Last Edit: May 10, 2019, 07:54:38 pm by Strawberry »

Offline king tarzan

Go to a mouthwatering Russian/Brazilian/Romanian super honey AND NO DFK because of this scare mongering  :dash: :dash: :dash: :dash: :dash: :dash: :scare: :scare: :scare: :scare: :scare: :scare: :scare:


NEVER...............................

never have caught anything.... will carry on DFK CRUSADE.....
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Offline Home Alone


Question is,will this change the way YOU punt?.. :)

Hell will freeze over first!

DFK's an essential component of an enjoyable punt for me.

Offline JAYZ

 Good oral hygiene is essential before and after a meet, DFK or not.

Offline Shropslad2008

This puts me in mind of an old Bernard Manning joke:

Dr: I’m afraid you’ve gonorrhoea

Patient: oh, I must have got from a toilet seat.

Dr: Really? Well, you must have been sucking it, it’s in your gums... 

Offline peter purves

Neisseria gonorrhoeae Bacterial DNA Load in the Pharynges and Saliva of Men Who Have Sex with Men

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In the Metro today was the article.."STDs can be cauugt by deep kissing"...... :scare:  or something like  that.

It  said." French kissing may be responsible for spreading Gonorrhoea a study shows"..Australian researchers say deep kissing

with tongues may be an important and neglected route for passing on throat or Oropharyngeal Gonorrhoea.

They also say that gargling with antiseptic mouthwash could help stop the spread of the disease..

I must admit, this is something I've been doing since last year...Straight after a punt, I'd gargle with Listerine ( because Brandy's not

allowed when driving)and rub it over my lips too as it's at least 29% proof  or  vol or something... 

Now, most punters will admit, that good DFK can make a good punt exceptional, without it, well,..it's just a shag..

Question is,will this change the way YOU punt?.. :)

Care to provide the link to the paper they're supposedly quoting?

Otherwise it's likely just scare mongering. The mouth is known to be very inhospitable to STDs. pH is quite different than the vagina or anus.

Offline Moresomes

Care to provide the link to the paper they're supposedly quoting?

Otherwise it's likely just scare mongering. The mouth is known to be very inhospitable to STDs. pH is quite different than the vagina or anus.

A good number of years ago, during a routine check, a doctor was doing a swab on my throat, and during the conversation he told me that gonorrhoea in the throat is usually self limiting.
Can you offer any information on this?

Offline Hobbit

In the Metro today was the article.."STDs can be cauugt by deep kissing"...... :scare:  or something like  that.

It  said." French kissing may be responsible for spreading Gonorrhoea a study shows"..Australian researchers say deep kissing

with tongues may be an important and neglected route for passing on throat or Oropharyngeal Gonorrhoea.

They also say that gargling with antiseptic mouthwash could help stop the spread of the disease..

I must admit, this is something I've been doing since last year...Straight after a punt, I'd gargle with Listerine ( because Brandy's not

allowed when driving)and rub it over my lips too as it's at least 29% proof  or  vol or something... 

Now, most punters will admit, that good DFK can make a good punt exceptional, without it, well,..it's just a shag..

Question is,will this change the way YOU punt?.. :)

If you believe everything you read then you are very naive. DFK is absolutely safe and has always been. If you are that worried, I would suggest you find a different hobby like beekeeping as that might be more appropriate for you.

Seriously, the people we get on this form sometimes makes me wonder... :dash: :dash: :dash:

Offline king tarzan

If you believe everything you read then you are very naive. DFK is absolutely safe and has always been. If you are that worried, I would suggest you find a different hobby like beekeeping as that might be more appropriate for you.

Seriously, the people we get on this form sometimes makes me wonder... :dash: :dash: :dash:

Yep..
Lots of sissy panzie drama queens....
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Offline azrael

In the Metro today was the article.."STDs can be cauugt by deep kissing"...... :scare:  or something like  that.

It  said." French kissing may be responsible for spreading Gonorrhoea a study shows"..Australian researchers say deep kissing

with tongues may be an important and neglected route for passing on throat or Oropharyngeal Gonorrhoea.

They also say that gargling with antiseptic mouthwash could help stop the spread of the disease..

I must admit, this is something I've been doing since last year...Straight after a punt, I'd gargle with Listerine ( because Brandy's not

allowed when driving)and rub it over my lips too as it's at least 29% proof  or  vol or something... 

Now, most punters will admit, that good DFK can make a good punt exceptional, without it, well,..it's just a shag..

Question is,will this change the way YOU punt?.. :)

Its common knowledge the mouth has more germs than your butt hole  :hi:

Offline The Owl

Its common knowledge the mouth has more germs than your butt hole  :hi:

Well that explains the escort I saw who had her tongue up my arsehole for a rimming session but only gave little peck style kisses when I saw her. I didn't mind too much.


Offline Doc Holliday

Care to provide the link to the paper they're supposedly quoting?

Post immediately before yours

Neisseria gonorrhoeae Bacterial DNA Load in the Pharynges and Saliva of Men Who Have Sex with Men

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Offline smiths

In the Metro today was the article.."STDs can be cauugt by deep kissing"...... :scare:  or something like  that.

It  said." French kissing may be responsible for spreading Gonorrhoea a study shows"..Australian researchers say deep kissing

with tongues may be an important and neglected route for passing on throat or Oropharyngeal Gonorrhoea.

They also say that gargling with antiseptic mouthwash could help stop the spread of the disease..

I must admit, this is something I've been doing since last year...Straight after a punt, I'd gargle with Listerine ( because Brandy's not

allowed when driving)and rub it over my lips too as it's at least 29% proof  or  vol or something... 

Now, most punters will admit, that good DFK can make a good punt exceptional, without it, well,..it's just a shag..

Question is,will this change the way YOU punt?.. :)

I tell you what I do I ask the experts in person at the GUM and ALL of them at various GUMs have said me as a punter catching something off a WG from DFK is a very small risk. A risk I am prepared to take for the reward on offer as I see it. Now there will always be A risk, its for a punter to decide his own risk level obviously.


Offline wristjob

It winds me up when people say things can happen. I used to dodge OWO for years then when I came on this site I saw people like smiths who had been sucked off hundreds of times and while they could have got something they hadn't - loads of exaggerated risk. This is a site for punters who regularly snog WGs and where are all the stories of throat gonorrhea? This business is full of stories of things that could happen but until I start hearing stories that they have happened I choose to ignore them.

Offline wylie anchor

I tell you what I do I ask the experts in person at the GUM and ALL of them at various GUMs have said me as a punter catching something off a WG from DFK is a very small risk. A risk I am prepared to take for the reward on offer as I see it. Now there will always be A risk, its for a punter to decide his own risk level obviously.

Ask the experts about any activity with a WG and they will answer 'the risk is very small' They are not allowed to say there is no risk! Just in case  :unknown:

Offline smiths

Ask the experts about any activity with a WG and they will answer 'the risk is very small' They are not allowed to say there is no risk! Just in case  :unknown:

That's most certainly never been the case with the GUM Doctors I have spoken to over the years. They always say BB with a WG is madness and OWO is unwise, as it is with civvies you don't know. Their over-arching advice is always practice safe sex which its their job to say and quite right to. I ignore them on the receiving of OWO as the risk is worth the reward to me, the risk isn't work it to me barebacking WGs or civvies I don't or hardly know, and even ones I know could be fucking another or others and I have no way of knowing for sure.

Yes they never say there is no risk because there IS always A risk when having sexual contact with another person or people.

Offline RadioKid

Whilst some are insisting this story is "doing the rounds again", it is still a serious issue.

We all know there are barebacking twats out there and there are serious issues with Gonorrhea mutating to becoming seriously difficult to treat.
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It is definitely food for thought

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Reading that, it's obvious that they've excluded one massive transmission route. They didn't control for oral sex. But were focussing on rimming and kissing. Without including routine tests for penile infection.

That's a massive no no, as it's a known an obvious route for transmission. To ignore it throws all their results in doubt. Quite frankly I'm shocked that the peer reviewers didn't flag that up.

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A good number of years ago, during a routine check, a doctor was doing a swab on my throat, and during the conversation he told me that gonorrhoea in the throat is usually self limiting.
Can you offer any information on this?

From what studies have shown, it generally resolves itself within 3 to 4 months. Why isn't entirely clear, but I would suspect it's due to pH differences.

Offline king tarzan

Oh for fucks sake stop being fucken panzies...

You want to dfk then do it, you don't because your shit scared then fucken don't...

Stop all this scare mongering shit....


I've been snogging for many many years with escorts and women in clubs and I've never ever caught anything...


Just make sure the woman is a escort who takes her profession seriously...
If your waiting whilst other punter leaves request politely but firmly escort freshen up,  if she doesn't just leave...


Make sure not a junkie or unhygienic dirty woman...

Like women on PMT scare mongering...


Fucken man up!!
« Last Edit: May 14, 2019, 08:23:08 am by king tarzan »
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Offline Home Alone

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Never thought I'd do this for one of KT's posts but '+1'!

Offline Waterhouse

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Never thought I'd do this for one of KT's posts but '+1'!
Ditto. LOL

Good on ya Mr. Kouros  :D

Offline myothernameis

In the Metro today was the article.."STDs can be cauugt by deep kissing"...... :scare:  or something like  that.

It  said." French kissing may be responsible for spreading Gonorrhoea a study shows"..Australian researchers say deep kissing


Question is,will this change the way YOU punt?.. :)

Yeh, get real, dont think we care when it comes to something like this, and we all know the risks, and it wouldst change anything for me, I would still punt as normal

I know, the escort has seen someone before me, and possibly given him OWO-CIM, some escort i have notice there mouth is minty fresh, so have they used a mouth wash, and now she going to do the same to me...OWO  :D :D :D

Now before I go to see a escort, I have given my cock a good wash and scrub, so would say Im clear of germs, but would using a bacterial wash be going to far, and just wonder if any guys to this

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Care to provide the link to the paper they're supposedly quoting?

Otherwise it's likely just scare mongering. The mouth is known to be very inhospitable to STDs. pH is quite different than the vagina or anus.

Found this posted in the West Mids section

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Offline Decadent Hobby

Do we know of that article was sponsored by Listerine mouthwash?  :P

Honestly though, I’m going to carry on treating myself to a decent bout of dfk. Reports like these do come up every now and then.

Offline Hobbit

It’s a load of bollocks and only fools would endorse it :thumbsdown:

Offline Tricky Dickie

Now before I go to see a escort, I have given my cock a good wash and scrub, so would say Im clear of germs, but would using a bacterial wash be going to far, and just wonder if any guys to this

I’m confused. Being clean and hygienic is bound to be a good idea. But who are you protecting by using antibacterial soap on yourself?

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It’s a load of bollocks and only fools would endorse it :thumbsdown:

The study is bollocks for two reasons. In a MSM study, they didn't routinely test for penile infection of gonorrhoea, and they only asked about kissing and anal sex. Anyone with sense would realise they missed out oral sex and the known (very very small) risk for contraction of those giving oral.

To believe the blurb is to believe shock stories, which as you rightly say only fools would believe.

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I’m confused. Being clean and hygienic is bound to be a good idea. But who are you protecting by using antibacterial soap on yourself?

No one if you have an infection. Only antibiotics will clear that up. Soaps do piss all on clearing up or preventing anything really.

Offline Bunbury

I never kiss, just safer that way for me so no concern.
The OH wouldn't appreciate me passing on anything, not even a cold sore.

Offline Tricky Dickie

No one if you have an infection. Only antibiotics will clear that up. Soaps do piss all on clearing up or preventing anything really.

I imagine that hospital infection control staff would disagree with you there :D

Really my point was more about what the poster was trying to achieve as he was proposing using the soap before a visit. So if he believed he had an infection already that he was trying to avoid spreading then not having sex seems like a more responsible option. If he was trying to protect himself then I’m back to my original question. He’d be protecting himself from something he already had.

Offline myothernameis

I imagine that hospital infection control staff would disagree with you there :D

Really my point was more about what the poster was trying to achieve as he was proposing using the soap before a visit. So if he believed he had an infection already that he was trying to avoid spreading then not having sex seems like a more responsible option. If he was trying to protect himself then I’m back to my original question. He’d be protecting himself from something he already had.

My thoughts on what I have posted, so in the early 90's there was this guy in college and he has a thing about germs, mostly in his head.  On breaks he would go to the toilets and wash and scrub his hands, for 10-15 min's, even heard rumors that he did this to his whole body

Now I know that some escorts have used baby wipes to clean genitals before any owo, and I have had this done to my self, even though I dont have any infections

As for the cleaning aspects, when your cock begins to smell, it needs a wash, now each person might have there own idea, on how to do this