Cost of punting increasing... justified or not?

[Raj_1978]

So back when I started around 20 odd years ago it’s was average £75 an hour..
nowwa days it’s upwards of £150 and you have some girls at £200, £250+++

Is this sort of cost for an average vanilla punt justified you think?
And then there’s the extras whereas before it might’ve been all inc.. I point to the Thai ladies as an example. I’d frequent them for maybe £70 half hour and get A, cim, included.

Am I just being a tight wad when I refuse such prices?

[Cryton123]

Everything goes up unfortunately. The price of petrol, a loaf of bread and alcohol were all considerably cheaper 20yrs ago so why should sex be any different?

I’ve noticed the lockdowns have pushed prices up again recently and I can’t see them ever coming down.

I’ll pay the higher prices because I don’t want to lower the standards of the girls I see. It just means I’ll punt less than before sadly 

[alabama1]

For a well rated wg in Birmingham, mid twenties size 8-10, where you are more or less guaranteed a 1st class hour (of which there aren't many), in my experience i have been paying between £120 and £150. £150 where the girl has been exceptional or a tourer, or both. 

[Spurt]

Yes that sounds like where the market has settled for now if you are after consistent quality.
Half hour bookings are getting prohibitively expensive.

[shed]

Personally I disagree with posts wanting to discuss pricing. SP can be members and hence read punters views and thoughts on current pricing. It's a subject that should be taboo in my humble opinion

[alabama1]

Only taboo if punters are "bigging" prices up surely 

[Arnav09]

Its definitely worth the price if shes hot, to cum down that throat

[lamboman]

Personally I disagree with posts wanting to discuss pricing. SP can be members and hence read punters views and thoughts on current pricing. It's a subject that should be taboo in my humble opinion

Not sure it should be taboo if some can't afford certain prices tough shit.

[alabama1]

But not at any price surely ?. Show some perspective/restraint for fucks sake !

[alabama1]

Not sure it should be taboo if some can't afford certain prices tough shit.

I think shed means we shouldn't be encouraging price hikes. My view is , we should be talking about prices in order to keep them down, or at least stable.

[Skeleton]

£75 in 2000 would be equivalent of around £125 nowadays based on historic rate of inflation. Add to that the internet was in its infancy in 2000 so less access to the market for both providers and customers and I’d say prices are probably about equivalent to then. Yes, easier access to internet for providers could mean more WG’s so costs should lower, but due to sites like this, punters are more aware and demanding and therefore quality of providers should have improved.

I wasn’t punting back then, so this is purely based on how I would view any business market over that timescale.

[opal]

Its supply & demand. Parlours have been shut so independents should have been busier and therefore able to charge more perhaps.

Things may change when lockdown restrictions ease and possibly some punters could be feeling the pinch if their income has been affected by lockdown. Supply could then increase and demand be less, but who knows we will have to wait & see.

[southcoastpunter]

Prices justified? Who is to say except us as individuals!

SP's have the right to set whatever price they want, we as indivuals just decide whether for us, its justified and acceptable and we see them or its not and we don't see them!
Simple!

[teddyking]

Unfortunately with price increases, us Punters are more to blame because we are the ones forking out to the SPs that charge it. Once SPs start having to blow dust off their phones I’m sure they probably dropping the price. Supply and demand eh
But me personally I never pay more than 70 for 30 mins

[JontyR]

Think that some folks are looking at this from a fairly narrow viewpoint. There are far more active punters than there are posters here. Same for SPs.

Providers will charge based on their own motivations. Punters will book (or not) based on theirs. To presume that all SPs or all punters are the same - and all like yourself - is sort of natural - but wrong.

One thing I've noticed is that generally SPs prices rise as their career progresses. Rarely do individuals lower their prices. I'd guess it's actually more likely that they will disappear than drop prices.

If there is to be any significant downward pressure it will come from new providers entering the market, not from existing SPs - or from conversations on here.

[chadpitt]

Of course it's not justified. The price rises are way beyond inflation and the profession is a low-skill one with a low barrier to entry.

Punting is not a necessity, it's recreational. So if dumbass hookers think they can charge us our lifesavings + a tip then they can do one. VR and sex dolls will take over.

[Stevelondon]

What the fucks justification got to do with punting.
As Southcoast says........ if you think the price is too high. Then don’t pay it. Go elsewhere.

Index linked punting, dumbass hookers....... WTF.

Here’s one punter who’s not going virtual anytime soon.

[danny#3]

trying to find a decent looking girl for a reasonable rate away from the cities is getting to be a hard task. Rather than paying up ever rising fees, if I'm desperate I'll go for a cheap P&D or keep my cash on my pocket and spend it elsewhere.

[Subboy1980]

No more than £150ph.  Anymore is just ridiculous.

[hendrix]

Anybody here charging what they used to 20 years ago?

[GlassesMan]

Yes I usually pay between 100-150 for a punt and I don't really see a problem with it.

[Neo]

For Incalls I have a few max prices that I wouldn't budge on.

The max I'd pay for 15m is £40/50
30m is £60/70
60m is £100/120.

Anything higher than its probably not going ahead as that's what I seek value in.

Furthermore I tend to prefer East Asian women (Thai/Chinese/Japanase), Latino (Brazilian - Although I've noticed a sharp quality difference here). This is my preference.

English lasses dont do it for, neither do black/african.

Avoid Hungarian/Roms especially and with Polish its hit & miss.

Pakistani & Middle Eastern I haven't really dabbled too much in so far.

[ManinBeds]

I don't punt much nowadays but looking to have along awaited punt in next few weeks. I'm checking out the local parlours in my area and can't see much difference in price to how they were a decade ago, average for the hour seems to be £130 ok with that to be honest especially as I don't punt nearly as often as I used to.

[lamboman]

Price is of no concern to me but I still set a limit as value is important and anything over £160ph is poor value to me.
I'm more concerned by the lack of decent girls.

[Elwaz74]

Often when you pay peanuts you sometimes get monkeys so pricing has never been my primary concern but whether the SP fits the bills! I am rather particular with whom I see. There is inflation and cost increases in the big cities where most of the SP are.

[petermisc]

The only person who has to justify the price is the punter paying it.  If you don't think the girl is worth the price, then look elsewhere.  Simple.  Of course, that may mean you have an ever decreasing pool to choose from.

I doubt that things are going to get back to normal, in terms of the number of foreign SPs coming here, until next year.  By then, I suspect that the current price rises will have become the new normal.  As a previous poster noted, established SPs rarely drop their prices, and new entrants will base their prices on what established SPs are charging at the time.

Agencies tend to start a girl on average price (which seems to be £250 an hour now in London), and bump her up the price bands if she proves popular.  Whereas independents tend to be a bit more optimistic about what they are worth, and give it up as a bad job if they don't get the bookings.  Very rarely do prices ever seem to come down.  Once a girl has rightly or wrongly got it into her head what she is worth, rarely will she lower that price.  Bit like being asked to accept a substantial pay cut, it feels demeaning.

[semaphore]

For Incalls I have a few max prices that I wouldn't budge on.

The max I'd pay for 15m is £40/50
30m is £60/70
60m is £100/120.

Anything higher than its probably not going ahead as that's what I seek value in.

Furthermore I tend to prefer East Asian women (Thai/Chinese/Japanase), Latino (Brazilian - Although I've noticed a sharp quality difference here). This is my preference.

English lasses dont do it for, neither do black/african.

Avoid Hungarian/Roms especially and with Polish its hit & miss.

Pakistani & Middle Eastern I haven't really dabbled too much in so far.

I'm the opposite. I like to be able to have a decent conversation with the girl so my strong preference is for native English speakers, whether thats British, American, or whatever. I also prefer agencies to AW because comms and reliability tend to be a lot better. That means if I want someone relatively attractive with decent service I'm looking at paying 300+ p/h a lot of the time. I could pay less but then I wouldn't get what I'm after, and I wouldn't enjoy myself, so it feels like more of a waste than paying more to get what I want

[Estella]

Just my two cents, hope you don't mind... 
I work in London but live in Manchester.

So, I charge £250 per hour- this is what I need to spend before I see anyone to be presentable, give you a great time ect

£800 rent per week in zone 1
£200 train fare per month
£400 advertising per month
£400-£600 per lingerie set (Bordelle/ Birdette ect)
£250 per month make up, nails, waxing, hair
£70 Wine, champagne, beer for clients
Plus £600 a month for my bills in Manchester

I know its slightly different for me because I travel down from the North but escorting for *escorts themselves* is expensive. I could spend a lot less but you would be in a crumbier apartment, I'd be in bog standard lingerie with crappy Aliexpress sex toys and the service would be meh.

Plus- CORONOAVIRUS  As an escort I am taking a HUGE risk by working. I know that you are too, but you don't *have* to see escorts, many escorts have had to keep working despite the risks because a year without an income is impossible. I'm sorry to butt in, I just wanted to give you my viewpoint.

Happy punting 

Diana Bentham xx

[chadpitt]

Just my two cents, hope you don't mind... 
I work in London but live in Manchester.

So, I charge £250 per hour- this is what I need to spend before I see anyone to be presentable, give you a great time ect

£800 rent per week in zone 1
£200 train fare per month
£400 advertising per month
£400-£600 per lingerie set (Bordelle/ Birdette ect)
£250 per month make up, nails, waxing, hair
£70 Wine, champagne, beer for clients
Plus £600 a month for my bills in Manchester

I know its slightly different for me because I travel down from the North but escorting for *escorts themselves* is expensive. I could spend a lot less but you would be in a crumbier apartment, I'd be in bog standard lingerie with crappy Aliexpress sex toys and the service would be meh.

This couldn't be more a of a middle-class problems post unless you added the words: bespoke, avocado and Waiterose.

[Sexpest]

This couldn't be more a of a middle-class problems post unless you added the words: bespoke, avocado and Waiterose.

So funny nearly spat my beer out. She’s right though London is bloody expensive. But that London flat could easily be swapped for a travel lodge and also I don’t think the average punter knows the difference between lingerie brands. Half of that is not essential

[Stevelondon]

This couldn't be more a of a middle-class problems post unless you added the words: bespoke, avocado and Waiterose.

 
An explanation and a spot of advertising. Nowt wrong with that of course.

Diana is simply pointing out her business model and how her pricing policy equates.
Like a lot of others on here we do the same.

[MysteryManNo.7]

Personally I've only really ever punted at HOD whose prices haven't changed since I started visiting a few years ago (£70 30mins, £100 45mins, £130 1 Hour).

[pegman8]

Diana is a working girl charging what she needs to charge to help make a living. Nothing wrong with that.
Punters should pay what they can afford and shouldn't go above their budget. Nothing wrong with that either.
I have my limits based on appearance, services provided and cost and I won't budge from any of them.
We should all do what is best for ourselves.

[LLPunting]

Diana is a working girl charging what she needs to charge to help make a living. Nothing wrong with that.
Punters should pay what they can afford and shouldn't go above their budget. Nothing wrong with that either.
I have my limits based on appearance, services provided and cost and I won't budge from any of them.
We should all do what is best for ourselves.

Telling us that the service would be meh because she can't buy all her stupid expensive extras speaks volumes about her actual priorities.
A reputation for looks and quality of service is what brings customers, punters who get off on the labels a girl smears on her body or sheds are niche fetishists, most couldn't tell the difference between Shiseido and Boots own and similarly most wouldn't waste their time appreciating 500 quid of lingerie versus 100 or even 50.  A girl who can't deliver the sexiness and performance naked isn't worth 100 ph let alone more.

[DrGFreeman]

This couldn't be more a of a middle-class problems post unless you added the words: bespoke, avocado and Waiterose.

bitter much ?

I think lots of girls in central london charge 250/hr
clients of such girls probably expect a well presented girl and a smart apartment
not a girl with hairy legs in tesco underwear living in a travel-lodge

but the thread was about the recent increase in costs
I still think demand exceeds supply
there have been other threads on this exact subject

[chadpitt]

bitter much ?

Not after I read your review about paying £70 for 30 mins of size 14+ katarina xxx Aberdeen. So much for things being cheaper up North

[DrGFreeman]

Not after I read your review about paying £70 for 30 mins of size 14+ katarina xxx Aberdeen. So much for things being cheaper up North

you must be thinking of northern england. nothing is cheap in aberdeen its a high wage area

[Estella]

okay, where to start! I really didn't think I'd get this reaction, bit confused.

Firstly a lot of my clients *do* know the difference between lingerie brands and a few see me specifically because of the lingerie I wear.

I'm not middle class, I don't think buying an avacado for 70p from Tesco means you're rich

I could stay in a travel lodge but if I was a client paying £250 I'd expect better accommodation than a tiny room in a budget hotel

'These things aren't essential' - They might not be to you but to a lot of clients, especially in London, they are. And you may take a lot of these essentials for granted because alot of the the time they are provided without you realising.

'A girl who can't deliver the sexiness and performance naked isn't worth 100 ph let alone more' I pity the poor woman who has to bend over backwards to please you when you have so low opinions of her. Which is exactly why I choose to have a higher rate so I don't see clients like you who think escorts are worthless.

I'm going now, so much vitriol when all I wanted to do was open your eyes a little.

[markballoon]

Cheap parlours in 2003 Liverpool were charging £35 for 30 minutes.  These days the same standard ones are charging £45.  The £35 with inflation should be £55.  Shop arounf.

[alabama1]

okay, where to start! I really didn't think I'd get this reaction, bit confused.

Firstly a lot of my clients *do* know the difference between lingerie brands and a few see me specifically because of the lingerie I wear.

I'm not middle class, I don't think buying an avacado for 70p from Tesco means you're rich

I could stay in a travel lodge but if I was a client paying £250 I'd expect better accommodation than a tiny room in a budget hotel

'These things aren't essential' - They might not be to you but to a lot of clients, especially in London, they are. And you may take a lot of these essentials for granted because alot of the the time they are provided without you realising.



'A girl who can't deliver the sexiness and performance naked isn't worth 100 ph let alone more' I pity the poor woman who has to bend over backwards to please you when you have so low opinions of her. Which is exactly why I choose to have a higher rate so I don't see clients like you who think escorts are worthless.

I'm going now, so much vitriol when all I wanted to do was open your eyes a little.

Oh dear, just put your foot in it haven't you ? Just shows that your "expenses" list is bullshit 

[MysteryManNo.7]

Without wanting to sound like a tout, I just don't get why people pay so much money for escorts when I can get my end away for as little as £70 for 30mins at somewhere like HOD. Yes, it's a brothel, yes the owner (or possibly former owner by the looks of one of their recent twitter posts) is a twat, yes the girls are generally booked back-to-back and you may not get your full time (though I've only been shorted on time a handful of times out of 50+ visits and have actually have multiple visits where I've gone over the time I was supposed to have with the girl and managed to have a shower both before and after the booking) but in my own personal experience, the quality has been extremely high (depends on the girl of course) and the money incredibly reasonable.

I would never personally even consider booking an escort for something ridiculous like £250.00 an hour when I can book a good looking girl with a whole list of services for as little as £130.00 an hour. There's even some indies that have been recommended to me (thank you 'bedhedred') with glowing feedback advertising for between £100-130.00 per hour. Of course a WG can charge whatever they want but to me, they are not worth more than £150.00 per hour no matter what they offer when there's so much available at high quality for cheaper. 

I just don't get this whole 'cost of punting increase' as personally I have not seen it or experienced it so far.

[Watts.E.Dunn]

I'm going now, so much vitriol when all I wanted to do was open your eyes a little.

Aw come on!, its a bit of a roughouse sometimes, but there are a few other SP's here and I think in general  their as well as your inputs are welcome.


You may not like the replies you get but in a way its a feedback of sorts!..

[southcoastpunter]

Oh dear, just put your foot in it haven't you ? Just shows that your "expenses" list is bullshit 

she was just trying to show how she thinks and her business model. It is very easy to just come on here and say this that and the other and have a go at WG's. She is way over my punting limit but i respect her for coming on here and putting her personal side. Of course she doesn't speak for all WG's.

I just don't get why people pay so much money for escorts when I can get my end away for as little as £70

each to their own, some of us don't want to "just get their end away" with the cheapest lady they can find!

[MysteryManNo.7]

each to their own, some of us don't want to "just get their end away" with the cheapest lady they can find!

Maybe I phrased it incorrectly, personally I actually prefer GFE with a bit of getting to know the girl and personally I have found that at HOD particularly with a few girls including Ophelia and Eden (who sadly left around August last year).

Also, a high price does not guarantee quality. I'm sure there are many here who keep fooling themselves that this is true when it's not. I saw one indie years ago who charged my limit (£150 an hour) and she was the most professional I have ever come across, offering me prosecco or other drinks straight away, gave an excellent service and massaged me very well afterwards before showering with me even though our time was long up.

Of course as you say, each to their own and if someone does want to go and spend £250+ per hour to believe spending more guarantees a better punt then more power to them.

[chadpitt]

'A girl who can't deliver the sexiness and performance naked isn't worth 100 ph let alone more' I pity the poor woman who has to bend over backwards to please you when you have so low opinions of her. Which is exactly why I choose to have a higher rate so I don't see clients like you who think escorts are worthless.

LLPunting wasn't calling escorts worthless. He was saying they should charge what they're worth in terms of looks and services.

I think your London clients sound quite stuck-up if they really care so much about underwear brands. I don't know why you don't just work from Manchester and save all the time and costs.

[Vice Admiral]

I pity the poor woman who has to bend over backwards to please you.

In my experience most escorts charge extra for this service, which is fair enough.  But it's generally well worth it.

One girl I know has been bending over backwards for years, and indeed she won't have it any other way.

[semaphore]

Maybe I phrased it incorrectly, personally I actually prefer GFE with a bit of getting to know the girl and personally I have found that at HOD particularly with a few girls including Ophelia and Eden (who sadly left around August last year).

Also, a high price does not guarantee quality. I'm sure there are many here who keep fooling themselves that this is true when it's not. I saw one indie years ago who charged my limit (£150 an hour) and she was the most professional I have ever come across, offering me prosecco or other drinks straight away, gave an excellent service and massaged me very well afterwards before showering with me even though our time was long up.

Of course as you say, each to their own and if someone does want to go and spend £250+ per hour to believe spending more guarantees a better punt then more power to them.

"A few years ago" yeah likewise, back when girls like Lily Hart and Honey Bell were around and charging that much for fantastic service. But that was years ago. Who's around like that in London today that only charges 150? Especially native English speakers? HoD sounds like great value but I'd feel uncomfortable enough seeing other punters around and/or being shoved out the door because the next guy's turned up that it would make it a bad punt for me. I wish I only had to pay 150 for what I want but the game's changed in the last couple of years, sadly

[hendrix]

Without wanting to sound like a tout, I just don't get why people pay so much money for escorts when I can get my end away for as little as £70 for 30mins at somewhere like HOD. Yes, it's a brothel, yes the owner (or possibly former owner by the looks of one of their recent twitter posts) is a twat, yes the girls are generally booked back-to-back and you may not get your full time (though I've only been shorted on time a handful of times out of 50+ visits and have actually have multiple visits where I've gone over the time I was supposed to have with the girl and managed to have a shower both before and after the booking) but in my own personal experience, the quality has been extremely high (depends on the girl of course) and the money incredibly reasonable.

I would never personally even consider booking an escort for something ridiculous like £250.00 an hour when I can book a good looking girl with a whole list of services for as little as £130.00 an hour. There's even some indies that have been recommended to me (thank you 'bedhedred') with glowing feedback advertising for between £100-130.00 per hour. Of course a WG can charge whatever they want but to me, they are not worth more than £150.00 per hour no matter what they offer when there's so much available at high quality for cheaper. 

I just don't get this whole 'cost of punting increase' as personally I have not seen it or experienced it so far.

I personally don't understand why anyone would pay even £10 for a kiss,a bj and a shag 

In a 121, If there's no anal, no ass to mouth, no flinch facials, no piss drinking and no DT till she pukes, it's not really worth even a penny to me. If I could get all that for £130, that'd be very welcome!

[MysteryManNo.7]

"A few years ago" yeah likewise, back when girls like Lily Hart and Honey Bell were around and charging that much for fantastic service. But that was years ago. Who's around like that in London today that only charges 150? Especially native English speakers? HoD sounds like great value but I'd feel uncomfortable enough seeing other punters around and/or being shoved out the door because the next guy's turned up that it would make it a bad punt for me. I wish I only had to pay 150 for what I want but the game's changed in the last couple of years, sadly

With regards to bumping into other punters at HOD, after going there for nearly 3 years and having easily upwards of 50 visits, I've bumped into a punter coming out once. They do a good job of keeping punters separated from one another.

The indie I saw who offered great service is still operating at the exact same price (£150 per hour). Last saw her in November 2019.

I do believe you can still find excellent service from good looking English speaking girls for under £150. bedhedred recommended me a number of excellent looking and well reviewed girls and I intend to try them out when I'm back in London.

I don't understand this defeatist attitude a lot of you have in this thread, there are still good looking and great value WGs available in London.

[semaphore]

With regards to bumping into other punters at HOD, after going there for nearly 3 years and having easily upwards of 50 visits, I've bumped into a punter coming out once. They do a good job of keeping punters separated from one another.

The indie I saw who offered great service is still operating at the exact same price (£150 per hour). Last saw her in November 2019.

I do believe you can still find excellent service from good looking English speaking girls for under £150. bedhedred recommended me a number of excellent looking and well reviewed girls and I intend to try them out when I'm back in London.

I don't understand this defeatist attitude a lot of you have in this thread, there are still good looking and great value WGs available in London.

I appreciate that I haven't posted a review yet so I don't really have the right to make requests, but I'd love to see those recommendations if you're willing to share