AW reverse bookings, a worrying trend!

[MissWolf]

As an SP  I have a little trundle through the reverse bookings section of AW now and again.
I rarely put any bids in but I like to have a little read of the more expensive booking requests as they can be very entertaining and revealing.

I have noticed an increased number of RB's lately asking for full BB sex, often worded "looking for BB with someone who doesn't advertise on their profile"

Most of these have a minimum of 20+ bids 

I feel it would be very helpful to both you guys as punters and us as providers if there was a way to see the list of profile names who have made bids on these bookings,  AW could surely do more to help both parties stay informed.

I'm aware the money is the draw I just find it sad and worrying 

Do you use the RB system and how much success do you get through it?

[RadioKid]

Indeed theres been quite a few threads on a perceived increase in punters wanting BB.

It would be interesting to test your theory and make an account asking for BB and seeing which prossies are "bidding". Naming and shaming them would be a good idea.

[Rochelle]

I don't think there's an increase. I look at RBs often and I've always noticed that overall, about 1/3 of the requests mention or allude to bareback. Some days it's more, some days it's less. What does surprise me is the number of bids they get. Look at this one. It got over 70 bids.



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[tesla]

unbelievable! the guy just contradicts him self in two lines, doesn't condone bareback,then asks for it in the next line!

[Jerk Chicken]

I have used the RB system a number of times over the years and can only report 100% positive experiences.

Insofar as BB that has always been there it is nothing new. Bareback under the table is a major issue!

[Drekszter]

What a nasty and vile individual.

Some WGs will sure go to great lengths in putting everyone's health at risk when they see that 1 grand is on the table. Sadly, I'm sure that kind of ad isn't the first or last to ask for something like this....

[James999]

Just illustrates how many are willing to provide bareback despite what they may say on profile etc.

The not offering bareback is like pr$sies showering between clients or regular Gum clinic checks, Urban Myths  Just stuff they like to spout 

[Rochelle]

Just illustrates how many are willing to provide bareback despite what they may say on profile etc.

The not offering bareback is like pr$sies showering between clients or regular Gum clinic checks, Urban Myths  Just stuff they like to spout 

[Happyjose]

Probably nothing to worry about

In my experience the majority of WG's who bid almost never read the details of the RB anyway 

More to the point, a WG member of this site suggesting creating a blacklist of her potential competition, is a much more worrying trend 

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[Rochelle]

Probably nothing to worry about

In my experience the majority of WG's who bid almost never read the details of the RB anyway 

More to the point, a WG member of this site suggesting creating a blacklist of her potential competition, is a much more worrying trend 

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Some don't read, but these bareback RBs get a hell of a lot of bids. Many of them would have read the details. I believe most know exactly what they're bidding on.

It would be good if there was a way for people to see who bids on them.

What do I do? I just look at the RBs and block the bareback seekers.

[RedKettle]

I agree with last comment, in my experience many of the WGs have not read the details in the RB.

I often delete bids that are clearly a no for me and often the girl rebids soon after - obvious that they have no recollection of the first bid.  They simply blast down bidding and hope to get one or two bites.

It is however interesting/worrying that so many punters are asking for BB - nowt as strange as folk.

[Happyjose]

Some don't read.... Many of them would have read the details. I believe most know exactly what they're bidding on.

My post was based on personal experience

What makes you so sure that most know exactly what they're bidding on?

[bhudda]

I agree with last comment, in my experience many of the WGs have not read the details in the RB.

I often delete bids that are clearly a no for me and often the girl rebids soon after - obvious that they have no recollection of the first bid.  They simply blast down bidding and hope to get one or two bites.

It is however interesting/worrying that so many punters are asking for BB - nowt as strange as folk.

Someone called sexy miss reede obviously doesnt read the details as she offered me bb sex when she bid even though i never asked for it in my auction!

It was 9 years ago though. But as suggested above ... i think far more wgs offer it than admit to offering it.

[Moby Dick]

As an SP  I have a little trundle through the reverse bookings section of AW now and again.
I rarely put any bids in but I like to have a little read of the more expensive booking requests as they can be very entertaining and revealing.

I have noticed an increased number of RB's lately asking for full BB sex, often worded "looking for BB with someone who doesn't advertise on their profile"

Most of these have a minimum of 20+ bids 

I feel it would be very helpful to both you guys as punters and us as providers if there was a way to see the list of profile names who have made bids on these bookings,  AW could surely do more to help both parties stay informed.

I'm aware the money is the draw I just find it sad and worrying 

Do you use the RB system and how much success do you get through it?

Yes I think it would be helpful to name the WG who bid . Although this does not prove that BB took place and could cause a lot of drama for this forum eapecially if previously well reviewed. I’ll get a bulk load of popcorn.
OP: are you on any WG forums where they name the punters requesting BB including via reverse bookings?

[Rochelle]

My post was based on personal experience

What makes you so sure that most know exactly what they're bidding on?

I said I believe, hence my opinion.
We all know there are many escorts that don't pay attention, are shit at comms, are always late, et cetera. There are also many punters that are time wasting idiots who don't bother to read profiles. I do think this is the minority though, overall.

There must be many others who also read the RBs before bidding, surely I can't be the only one of a few?

[Derrick101]

Yes I think it would be helpful to name the WG who bid . Although this does not prove that BB took place and could cause a lot of drama for this forum eapecially if previously well reviewed.
OP: are you on any WG forums where they name the punters requesting BB including via reverse bookings?

Especially if they don't list BB on their profile.. Nothing worse, or more dangerous to punters than a 'closet barebacker'.

[Happyjose]

I said I believe, hence my opinion.

Good to know 

[Strawberry]

This sort of "Increase in BB requests" thread pops up all over the place every so often, and probably will continue to do so. My experience is that there isn't an increase or decline, it might be simply more visible or noticeable. I rarely look at RBs these days because they mostly aren't applicable or possible for me.

[Rochelle]

Good to know 

Well, it's only common sense that some will read and some won't.

[Happyjose]

Well, it's only common sense that some will read and some won't.

Agreed. But you said you believed most know exactly what they are bidding on

But you have made it clear that that is your opinion, based upon no evidence whatsoever

[Vic69]

Ive never bid on a RB but do occasionally read them, and am shocked at how many bids some BB requests receive, I find it very scary as a SP that guys are asking for girls that dont declare it on their profile. Do you think the increase in ladies bidding on RB is down to the availability of PrEP medication?

[MissWolf]

Especially if they don't list BB on their profile.. Nothing worse, or more dangerous to punters than a 'closet barebacker'.

This is the bit that I find bothers me, the closet offenders, it's hard enough to stay safe as it is.

I'm not on any other forums in reply to the other question asked, maybe I should be?

I pit this up as I just seem to be noticing it more I think

[Students Notebook]

As an SP  I have a little trundle through the reverse bookings section of AW now and again.
I rarely put any bids in but I like to have a little read of the more expensive booking requests as they can be very entertaining and revealing.

I have noticed an increased number of RB's lately asking for full BB sex, often worded "looking for BB with someone who doesn't advertise on their profile"

Most of these have a minimum of 20+ bids 

I feel it would be very helpful to both you guys as punters and us as providers if there was a way to see the list of profile names who have made bids on these bookings,  AW could surely do more to help both parties stay informed.

I'm aware the money is the draw I just find it sad and worrying 

Do you use the RB system and how much success do you get through it?

I placed a RB recently and I too had a little trundle through them. I noticed a different theme.

People asking for an OUTCALL were getting more bids than those asking for INCALLS.

There was one in particular I noticed because it was from someone in Suffolk.
They were seeking a woman for 4 hours and offering a paultry £.300.
That's less than £.80 per hour, FFS.
They received 15 bids.

I understand that there is a way punters can read RBs . Anyone know how ?

[bhudda]

I placed a RB recently and I too had a little trundle through them. I noticed a different theme.

People asking for an OUTCALL were getting more bids than those asking for INCALLS.

There was one in particular I noticed because it was from someone in Suffolk.
They were seeking a woman for 4 hours and offering a paultry £.300.
That's less than £.80 per hour, FFS.
They received 15 bids.

I understand that there is a way punters can read RBs . Anyone know how ?

One of the nice things about an rb can be that they attract part timers and/or hobby wgs ... some who do it for the thrill or experience as well as the money. Many of these cant/wont offer incalls.

£300 is quite a lot of money to some people ... and whether its for 2 hour or 4 hours may not make much difference to some wgs as long as they get to pocket £300. Besides which ... unless youve read the details ... could be 3 hours of the 4 would be spent eating a nice dinner.

If you want to read rbs just change your profile to be service provider rather than seeker ... then change it back when you have finished.

[James999]

I rarely put any bids in

Out of interest how much did you bid on this one?

[Students Notebook]

One of the nice things about an rb can be that they attract part timers and/or hobby wgs ... some who do it for the thrill or experience as well as the money. Many of these cant/wont offer incalls.

£300 is quite a lot of money to some people ... and whether its for 2 hour or 4 hours may not make much difference to some wgs as long as they get to pocket £300. Besides which ... unless youve read the details ... could be 3 hours of the 4 would be spent eating a nice dinner.

If you want to read rbs just change your profile to be service provider rather than seeker ... then change it back when you have finished.

Yes I see, thank you.

[MissWolf]

Out of interest how much did you bid on this one?

I'm sorry am I missing something here?

[James999]

I'm sorry am I missing something here?

The ability to read perhaps?

Was a simple question 

[EnglishRebecca121]

bareback reverse bookings have always been there defo no increase.
i to wish aw would show who the hell is bidding so we can avoid any clients they see 

[O30303]

Iv said it a few times on here now, it would be in the safe interest of both sp and punters to know which punters have a soft spot for bareback, it's as important as knowing which sp do it imho, it would help as I have said before to know who not to follow

[Doc Holliday]

Iv said it a few times on here now, it would be in the safe interest of both sp and punters to know which punters have a soft spot for bareback, it's as important as knowing which sp do it imho, it would help as I have said before to know who not to follow

... and as I've said many times over many years, I believe it's largely a waste of time and effort in terms of risk reduction, because you are just scratching the surface of sexual histories and those that you scratch will not be reliable anyway. Just assume the worst and protect yourself accordingly.

[whoya.kiddin]

Agreed.  The possibility an SP offers under the counter bb does not worry me.  If you are worried about STD's, either as an SP or punter, insist on covered service.  It really is that simple.

[LLPunting]

I don't think there's an increase. I look at RBs often and I've always noticed that overall, about 1/3 of the requests mention or allude to bareback. Some days it's more, some days it's less. What does surprise me is the number of bids they get. Look at this one. It got over 70 bids.

The get out clause is "If".  I'd like to believe that the majority of SPs who read the ad are only responding to the money and have no intention of BBing.  Of course there will be a fair number who just bid blindly, the usual "I will see you for xxx" when xxx bears no resemblance to the offer, so in this case could well be cheaper too 

[Happyjose]

Iv said it a few times on here now, it would be in the safe interest of both sp and punters to know which punters have a soft spot for bareback, it's as important as knowing which sp do it imho, it would help as I have said before to know who not to follow

First thing that comes to mind is that this isn't a support site for SW's. There are other sites that cater to that

The other is that compiling a list of punters on here who have visited barebackers sounds anti-punter, and potentially in conflict with the ethos of the site.

At the very least, there is evidence to show that many punters visit such WG's with no intention of partaking in BB, or don't realise they do due to not reading the profile carefully enough

and at the end of the day, most everyone bareback's someone - pimps/boyfriends, regulars, whatever

Do your own due diligence and punt according to your view of the risks

[LLPunting]

Probably nothing to worry about

In my experience the majority of WG's who bid almost never read the details of the RB anyway 

More to the point, a WG member of this site suggesting creating a blacklist of her potential competition, is a much more worrying trend 

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Nothing wrong with any SP making their own blacklist/watchlist of self-confessed BBing SPs to check against when screening punters.  Nothing worrying since she can't bid on their behalf so UKPers making a similar list would be no different to out current practice of outing (promoting for BB seekers) those who list BB on their profiles.

[Rochelle]

The get out clause is "If".  I'd like to believe that the majority of SPs who read the ad are only responding to the money and have no intention of BBing.  Of course there will be a fair number who just bid blindly, the usual "I will see you for xxx" when xxx bears no resemblance to the offer, so in this case could well be cheaper too 

Even the ones who have no intention of doing so, this is a guy that most likely goes bareback regularly.

[LLPunting]

My post was based on personal experience

What makes you so sure that most know exactly what they're bidding on?

Most is anything over 50%.
Your opinion is based on subjective experience of seeking RBs (for non BB encounters I hope), it is no more valid than a hunch, just as my experience of RBs where most respondents have read the ad (because they talk about specifics in the ad).

[LLPunting]

Iv said it a few times on here now, it would be in the safe interest of both sp and punters to know which punters have a soft spot for bareback, it's as important as knowing which sp do it imho, it would help as I have said before to know who not to follow

Good luck tracking every SP exposed to a BBing punter given that we only know about the ones they mention.  You're on a hiding to nothing.  You either operate to protect against as much risk as your unwilling to take or you quit punting.

[MissWolf]

The ability to read perhaps?

Was a simple question 

I did not bid

And I'm not going to bite with this either 

[LLPunting]

Even the ones who have no intention of doing so, this is a guy that most likely goes bareback regularly.

Indeed, it wouldn't be surprising if a girl may well have no intention to offer any unprotected acts including DFK, RO or OWO.  They could lie about deriving pleasure from other safe acts given the idiot SS leaves himself open to doing what pleasures her.
The vengeful ones may just be stringing him along to waste his time and hopefully frustrate the booking.  There could even be punters with SP profiles doing this.  Limited likelihood granted but it takes all sorts.

On an associated note, given the availability of PrEP I wonder how many SPs use it?

[LLPunting]

I did not bid

And I'm not going to bite with this either 

You just nipped him instead.

[Rochelle]

Indeed, it wouldn't be surprising if a girl may well have no intention to offer any unprotected acts including DFK, RO or OWO.  They could lie about deriving pleasure from other safe acts given the idiot SS leaves himself open to doing what pleasures her.
The vengeful ones may just be stringing him along to waste his time and hopefully frustrate the booking.  There could even be punters with SP profiles doing this.  Limited likelihood granted but it takes all sorts.

On an associated note, given the availability of PrEP I wonder how many SPs use it?

I don't, and wouldn't have any idea. Some of them offering bareback openly must do, but then it doesn't help with the other things they can catch...so pointless.

[LLPunting]

First thing that comes to mind is that this isn't a support site for SW's. There are other sites that cater to that

The other is that compiling a list of punters on here who have visited barebackers sounds anti-punter, and potentially in conflict with the ethos of the site.

At the very least, there is evidence to show that many punters visit such WG's with no intention of partaking in BB, or don't realise they do due to not reading the profile carefully enough

and at the end of the day, most everyone bareback's someone - pimps/boyfriends, regulars, whatever

Do your own due diligence and punt according to your view of the risks

If this site is about enabling safe and reliable punting then listing BBing  SSers would be valid.  Our listing of BBing SPs is a very limited and inexact nod to that safety, although it also promotes potential BBers to BB seekers.  The impracticality of identifying BBing SSers and the interconnectedness of the community ensures that it's impossible so we can only protect ourselves with our own behaviour.

[LLPunting]

I don't, and wouldn't have any idea. Some of them offering bareback openly must do, but then it doesn't help with the other things they can catch...so pointless.

Not pointless, it just reduces their exposure risk somewhat.  We all operate on a sliding scale of risk aversion.

[LLPunting]

Here's an associated question:  "How many punters have received offers of BB by reply to their RBs or when arranging bookings?"  SPs doing that should be outed.

[Ali Katt]

Iv said it a few times on here now, it would be in the safe interest of both sp and punters to know which punters have a soft spot for bareback, it's as important as knowing which sp do it imho, it would help as I have said before to know who not to follow

It belongs on safe, end of. A little bit of research makes it easy to find the BB-ers as we know the escorts that offer BB.

[cotton]

Indeed, it wouldn't be surprising if a girl may well have no intention to offer any unprotected acts including DFK, RO or OWO.  They could lie about deriving pleasure from other safe acts given the idiot SS leaves himself open to doing what pleasures her.
The vengeful ones may just be stringing him along to waste his time and hopefully frustrate the booking.  There could even be punters with SP profiles doing this.  Limited likelihood granted but it takes all sorts.

On an associated note, given the availability of PrEP I wonder how many SPs use it?

Theres alot of hysteria surrounding bareback , while i can appreciate guys with partners would be especially concerned the reality is that as a punter all you can do is in all instances protect yourself.
But my understanding is that alot of SPs who provide bareback do use prep , fitalexis as an example
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and any sps who are hiv+ve are likely to be on medication which is going to render them non contagious anyway.
Also the risk for a guy vaginally fucking a hiv+ve chik is minimal.
Its about risk assesment , your collateral liabilities that you need to consider (wife etc), and wether the feeling of bareback sex is actually important to you.

[LLPunting]

Theres alot of hysteria surrounding bareback , while i can appreciate guys with partners would be especially concerned the reality is that as a punter all you can do is in all instances protect yourself.
But my understanding is that alot of SPs who provide bareback do use prep , fitalexis as an example
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and any sps who are hiv+ve are likely to be on medication which is going to render them non contagious anyway.
Also the risk for a guy vaginally fucking a hiv+ve chik is minimal.
Its about risk assesment , your collateral liabilities that you need to consider (wife etc), and wether the feeling of bareback sex is actually important to you.

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SPs, do they offer PrEP to you at the clinic if they know you're a sex worker?

[Strawberry]

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SPs, do they offer PrEP to you at the clinic if they know you're a sex worker?

No.

I am under the impression PrEP has side effects which would make unnecessary use unattractive, as I understand it it's aimed at those thought to be at specific risk.

The clinic also know I don't have any unprotected intercourse.

[Happyjose]

It belongs on safe, end of.

Thanks for clarifying