Better erections: Diet, Abstinence, and Viagra

[Heph]

Good thread JayEZ2K
My current situation is that I've just lost all interest/horn to have sex and i'm under 30

Wowzer. Since...?

[BarryProudfoot]

Wowzer. Since...?

Last three months.
There has been brief periods within that timeframe where i've been super horny like climbing the walls (then knocked one out) i'm then just not interested for the last 2-3 weeks since that spike  

[monstar]

I never have any wood related issues, but would kill for something that would help me prolong the action beyond a couple of minutes.

Cialis or Viagra generally prolong pop. I've rarely got issues but take half the smallest dose pill (10mg tadalafil) on occasion with no side effects, helps with lasting longer and erections from a puff of wind on my cock and soon after pop! 

[monstar]

Good thread JayEZ2K
My current situation is that I've just lost all interest/horn to have sex and i'm under 30

It happens, don't worry too much. If it's due to excessive porn viewing or something else potentially harmful, try to address the issue, if not, in time you'll find a girl who does it for you, and be horny as a teenager again!  Speaking from experience and similar age to you 

[JonasG]

Excessive punting doesn't help.

[jameshall]

If you don't actually have ED, the 25mg dose is more than enough to give you a reliable, solid hard on for the punt.

I dont have ED but cum first time within  5 mins and only get hard near the end of the punt - and still cum quickly!

I now take Vardenafil (Levitra) 10mg- can get it form LLOYDS online but out of stock now. Bloody hard again within 5 mins of cumming (if the escort is fit- still need to feel randy for it to really work) and then can last another 30 mins plus- feel like a porn star- only problem is the cost of the med.Have tried the other ones- do not work as well for me

[Heph]

Last three months.
There has been brief periods within that timeframe where i've been super horny like climbing the walls (then knocked one out) i'm then just not interested for the last 2-3 weeks since that spike

OK, well, that's not necessarily something to get anxious about at this stage - it could be a blip. Though perhaps if it were to persist for a few weeks more, there would be no harm in mentioning it to your doctor.

[Marmalade]

He says his current situation is that he’s under thirty. Do if he’s 29 that problem normally passes within the year. 

[Rotherham]

Noted. How long before a punt do you apply them and do you notify the WG beforehand if you're going for OWO? Just wondered what the effects would be orally for the SP.  Responsible punting practices and all that ...

You definitely need to wash it off beforehand. A shower is good for that.

[PepeMAGA]

has anyone had any experience of supplements that make you come quicker?

[Marmalade]

Excessive punting doesn't help.

I disagree. When I’ve been in a situation where I could punt daily my body soon got into the routine. Regular sex increases testosterone.

[gerrybear]

"I disagree. When I’ve been in a situation where I could punt daily my body soon got into the routine. Regular sex increases testosterone."

I could be related to age. It is not my case anymore. I now have problems and that's why I'm reading this thread.
I have decided to test all the advice above from this week and I'll report my findings.

[Marmalade]

There’s a shitload of research guys should do if the area’s a concern, and not everything will apply to everyone. Testosterone levels off then decreases rapidly with age (which at least in this country the medical establishment consider normal — of course it’s ‘normal’ if they do fuck all about it — Germany and America are more enlightened in this respect and have more money to throw at it).

Diet, exercise and lifestyle all affect testosterone and performance, as does mental attitude (testosterone also affects mental attitude and inclination for exercise, so there’s a cycle to be broken out of).

[Plan R]

Hi Marmalade
I'm having encouraging results with the stuff I listed but agree that quality is a factor with supplements.. I've avoided (much cheaper) Lions Mane from deepest darkest China
as, for one thing, you can't be sure of the air quality where it is grown.

First heard about Lion's Mane on the Joe Rogan Experience podcast.
Joe Rogan (by his own admission), looks like a meat head - but he does have some very good guests on, particularly science-for-the-layman type stuff.
Because Podcast's don't have to fit the (time and therefore depth) constraints of TV, they can cover ground TV and the MSM cannot.
It's encouraging to know that people still have a taste for in depth discussion.

Paul Stamets is one of the more 'out there' guests.. he talks about Lions Mane in particular from 44:50 - 50:00 External Link/Members Only [Contains Sound]

I did use his stuff [ External Link/Members Only ]
for a couple of months, but then went for a UK based product to cut down cost a bit.

So far so good..

[Chorley]

Good thread JayEZ2K
My current situation is that I've just lost all interest/horn to have sex and i'm under 30

It'll pass. I'm older than you and I recently lost the horn completely. I put it down to a poor diet, work stress, poor sleep hygiene and too much porn. I made some changes and felt much better. One of the simpkest and most effective was drinking water. I now drink 2 litres s day and feel much better. I also don't feel as bloated and look slimmer. 
I managed teo very energetic punting sessions on consecutive days recently, so hopefully as s younger (fitter?) bloke you should be able to recover.

[JayEZ2K]

Thank you to everyone for your suggestions.    I am also really happy that this might help some people (SinZ and others), and I am happy to see that so many other people are becoming healthier from this hobby.

For now I see some immediate improvements I need to make based on suggestions, and for other suggestions I will need to do some reading.

A quick note on arginine is that the most abundant food source is turkey breast, at about 2 grams/100 grams. I don't think I can eat loads of turkey, so I will probably get the pure amino acid. It's cheap to try, but on the other hand, I don't know if arginine makes sense because if arginine was the limiting factor, Viagra would not work. Older studies used about 1.5 grams per day, with a mixture of failure or moderate success so I might try a higher mega dose of 5-10 grams for 1-2 days before punting External Link/Members Only.

[JonasG]

What's everyones experience with vitamin D and erections?

Heard and read taking supplements can help?

Ok, vitamin D does work.

I've been taking 1 vitamin D pill a day (1000 iu) and it's working.

The hard-ons seem more solid and maintained.

It's like a mini viagra.

Just take 1 pill a day.

[Plan R]

A quick note on arginine is that the most abundant food source is turkey breast, at about 2 grams/100 grams. I don't think I can eat loads of turkey, so I will probably get the pure amino acid. It's cheap to try, but on the other hand, I don't know if arginine makes sense because if arginine was the limiting factor, Viagra would not work. Older studies used about 1.5 grams per day, with a mixture of failure or moderate success so I might try a higher mega dose of 5-10 grams for 1-2 days before punting External Link/Members Only.

Hmm been meaning to swap to turkey rashers for a while..that's a good motivator to give them a try.
Also, as you may already know, there's quite a lot out there (including my first link in this thread) suggesting it's best practice to 'stack'
Arginine with Citrulline.
 

[BarryProudfoot]

Ok, vitamin D does work.

I've been taking 1 vitamin D pill a day (1000 iu) and it's working.

The hard-ons seem more solid and maintained.

It's like a mini viagra.

Just take 1 pill a day.

I use the DLux3000 daily oral vitamin D spray which provides 3000IU

[BarryProudfoot]

It'll pass. I'm older than you and I recently lost the horn completely. I put it down to a poor diet, work stress, poor sleep hygiene and too much porn. I made some changes and felt much better. One of the simpkest and most effective was drinking water. I now drink 2 litres s day and feel much better. I also don't feel as bloated and look slimmer. 
I managed teo very energetic punting sessions on consecutive days recently, so hopefully as s younger (fitter?) bloke you should be able to recover.

My body fat percentage is probably 12%. Maybe my lack of 'horn' was due to not consuming enough healthy fats? My hydraulics work [erections] I just have no interest in sex at the moment

[JayEZ2K]

Hmm been meaning to swap to turkey rashers for a while..that's a good motivator to give them a try.
Also, as you may already know, there's quite a lot out there (including my first link in this thread) suggesting it's best practice to 'stack'
Arginine with Citrulline.
 

Yes, and thank you for that. I've added the citrulline supplement and watermelon to my shopping list to combine the two. External Link/Members Only
From my reading, chicken can have between 1-2 grams arginine per 100 g which is fairly close. There was something about spinach having a similar affect, but I will have to read it again. Based on the reading so far, it seems like aginine/citruline will have a marginal effect at best, but it's cheap to try. If I have time I will try to make a hierarchy of what is shown to work best. Top of the list so far seems to be treating the root cause, and keeping the blood vessels young and healthy, and the various ways to do that. Which also has a huge return since it has so many other benefits as well. And then there are ways to tweak the system to extend the usefulness of reduced blood vessel function with Viagra, and then potentially arg/citrulline.

[JonasG]

I use the DLux3000 daily oral vitamin D spray which provides 3000IU

Anything more than 1000iu a day in supplements doesn't suit me sadly.

Makes me feel tired all day.

[Cum_again]

Yeah, don’t take too much vitamin D.  Or too much of any vitamin mineral or antioxidant. They can be harmful in higher doses.

[maxxblue]

Yeah, don’t take too much vitamin D.

Don't take too much anything. 

[Cunning Punt]

Interesting post as I need sildenafil to get a decent erection, cum pretty quickly and don't seem to get a second erection nowadays. Worse of all worlds

So I'm looking for medication that works better in getting me going again.

I'm taking 50mg atm. Does anyone find 100mg is actually significantly more effective?

Sildenafil delays ejaculation slightly but not enough for me. I also agree exercise helps libido so I guess I need to do get to the gym more. Grrr!

I now take Vardenafil (Levitra) 10mg- can get it form LLOYDS online but out of stock now. Bloody hard again within 5 mins of cumming (if the escort is fit- still need to feel randy for it to really work) and then can last another 30 mins plus- feel like a porn star- only problem is the cost of the med.Have tried the other ones- do not work as well for me

Thanks. May try that. 

[londonroad]

I have recently started using Sildenafil 50mg and has really transformed my punting life. I get rock hard and full size for full session. I drink lots of water with it, which also increases my cum volume. I am a mature guy and was going to retire from punting but the magic blue pill gets me performing like it did when I was in my 20’s. I have used it four times and did once get a mild headache about three hours after taking it. I had drunk some water but maybe not enough. My last punt was the best it could be without any worrying about maintaining a really hard cock. As I say it is a magic! I don’t eat or have any booze before taking it.

[Marmalade]

Interesting post as I need sildenafil to get a decent erection, cum pretty quickly and don't seem to get a second erection nowadays.

If you’ve no serious medical conditions then why not experiment a little (ie a little at a time, regarding dosages and different meds).

An advantage of viagra is that it helps to produce a strong erection fairly quickly. An advantage of Cialis (tadalafil) is that the effects last much longer. So while it’s not the same for everyone, a little tadalafil at a time taken at intervals can provide a ‘background’ effect to get horny once the immediate effect of a drop in testosterone after ejaculation has worn off. (This doesn’t necessarily mean two pops in an hour — maybe spread over two half-hour punts with a few hours apart.)

The current drugs of choice to prevent coming too quickly are dapoxetine (Priligy) or paroxetine. It’s available from Lloyds pharmacy on prescription and overpriced of course. There’s also combination meds of sildenafil/tadalafil with dapoxetine/paroxetine but I don’t know if they’re available in the U.K. yet, you’d have to look.

[Cunning Punt]

Thanks. Yes, definitely going to experiment - and look at boosting my testosterone, including more exercise.

[webpunter]

Crikey "Dr. M" - your skills are wasted on UKP 

If you’ve no serious medical conditions then why not experiment a little (ie a little at a time, regarding dosages and different meds).

An advantage of viagra is that it helps to produce a strong erection fairly quickly. An advantage of Cialis (tadalafil) is that the effects last much longer. So while it’s not the same for everyone, a little tadalafil at a time taken at intervals can provide a ‘background’ effect to get horny once the immediate effect of a drop in testosterone after ejaculation has worn off. (This doesn’t necessarily mean two pops in an hour — maybe spread over two half-hour punts with a few hours apart.)

The current drugs of choice to prevent coming too quickly are dapoxetine (Priligy) or paroxetine. It’s available from Lloyds pharmacy on prescription and overpriced of course. There’s also combination meds of sildenafil/tadalafil with dapoxetine/paroxetine but I don’t know if they’re available in the U.K. yet, you’d have to look.

I reck Kamagra sachets are the dogs.  Virtually instantneous.  Well 10 mins tops

[standardpostage]

A lot of the suggestions I read in here my eyes just see “snake-oil-with-fancy-name”; but Lions Mane has a pretty solid medical reputation for supporting the nervous system. The other effects are more debatable but it certainly considered unlikely to do you any harm. Maybe by strengthening mental attitude it would well for some people in the ED department as a side effect. Of the amino-acids you mention I think it may be more a case of getting your own balance right.

Many people that do take supplements do so without knowing much about them, so as a general note for the thread I’d suggest:

Check the supplier. Many cheaper suppliers have a bad track record for products that are sub-optimum or not containing the full amount stated.

Read up on the product intensely. Lions Mane for instance (a good supplement for anyone) comes in different varieties. Even better-rated brands like Solgar can sell sub-optimum products (like their B12 which is made from a variety that leaves a marginally toxic residue).

Compare the most optimistic claims and the most sceptical ones — truth is often somewhere in between. For instance there may be some effects that are proven, some not known, and some clearly bollocks.

If you include vitamins, maybe look at mega-dosing — the amounts sold by Boots for instance are nearly always too small to have anything but a placebo effect. Mega-dosing involves boosting vitamin levels way above average he RDA (but safely) and usually combined with a lower food intake that is high in protein.

Just my thoughts.

Good thoughts :-)

[gerrybear]

"I disagree. When I’ve been in a situation where I could punt daily my body soon got into the routine. Regular sex increases testosterone."

I could be related to age. It is not my case anymore. I now have problems and that's why I'm reading this thread.
I have decided to test all the advice above from this week and I'll report my findings.

As explained in another post, I have been seeing the same woman for some months. She is married but she has no sex with her older husband anymore, since he got a heart attack. She is very nice and we enjoy the time we spend together. Although I'm very attracted to her, I have not performed well. It doesn't seem a problem with her as I have always been able to give her a lot a pleasure. We see each other once or twice a week, as it is sometimes not easy to organise.
As part of the trial of the method, I have not seen anybody else, no porn, no masturbation.
I last saw her on Friday afternoon at 2pm. I had a very light breakfast at 7 am. I had a lot of water to drink all throughout the day. I took a viagra 50mg at 1 o'clock., with a lot a water. When we met, I was bright red and warm. She laughed about it, saying I had spent too much time in the sun.
For some reason, I had no other reaction to Viagra. My performance wasn't better than usual, but I was hot... and sweating...
I'm going to see her tomorrow afternoon. This time I plan to take Cialis , tonight before going to bed. I'll report of the findings.

[fantasticmrfox]

Ive mentioned this before, a few days abstinence, good sleep ( I def think this is a factor), intense workouts, heavy weights - compound workouts with maca protein shakes. Do that and within a week ten days, the morning wood is noticeably stronger.... intact I'm waking up with errections, like a teenager or should I say the errections are waking me up.

I don't beleive in abstaining too long... I think 10 days two weeks and you need a release to get you stronger.

[Heph]

I was hot... and sweating...

...apparently this is a very commonplace dead-giveaway for the girls. Did you know about this in advance?  If/when the time comes for me to take the little blue pill, I think I might try a dry run first, and hot-foot it to the whorehouse if the unsatisfied pride is unbearable.

[gerrybear]

...apparently this is a very commonplace dead-giveaway for the girls. Did you know about this in advance?  If/when the time comes for me to take the little blue pill, I think I might try a dry run first, and hot-foot it to the whorehouse if the unsatisfied pride is unbearable.

I had read about it and the advice was to drink a lot of water (which is what I did.) I didn't get any headache.

[gerrybear]

Ive mentioned this before, a few days abstinence, good sleep ( I def think this is a factor), intense workouts, heavy weights - compound workouts with maca protein shakes. Do that and within a week ten days, the morning wood is noticeably stronger.... intact I'm waking up with errections, like a teenager or should I say the errections are waking me up.

I don't beleive in abstaining too long... I think 10 days two weeks and you need a release to get you stronger.

I need to try your workout recipes. Thanks.

[fantasticmrfox]

I need to try your workout recipes. Thanks.

Bit of a divergence from usual ukp chat but heres the regime, not all in one session

Deadlifts, make sure your form is good....great all body exercise

Squats, wide leg and narrow

Bulgarian split squats

Bent over rows, raises, bench press, flys

Keep it varied....throw in something athletic like a cicuits class on one of the days.

After the session do this shake:

Milk....theres a trend for almond but I like cows
Table sppon raw cacoa powder, not coca this stuff has loads of antioxidants and meant to keep the blood vessels flexible.

Table spoon maca powder...you can get this holland and barrat.......there's nixed evidence this is good for your hormones....and your todger!

1 banana

1 little tub of chopped mango...you know the lunch time thing from tesco for about a quid

2 scoops choc whey protein

Blend it all up in one of those nutilribullets....

Give it a fortnight, even after a few days the exercise, no wanking though, relaxation and nutrients....I get horned up pretty easy. Start to get erections on tube when im.not even thinking about women.

[BarryProudfoot]

Ive mentioned this before, a few days abstinence, good sleep ( I def think this is a factor), intense workouts, heavy weights - compound workouts with

maca

protein shakes. Do that and within a week ten days, the morning wood is noticeably stronger.... intact I'm waking up with errections, like a teenager or should I say the errections are waking me up.

I don't beleive in abstaining too long... I think 10 days two weeks and you need a release to get you stronger.

I started adding 2.5g of mana to my shake a few weeks ago and the taste was rank. Dropped it to 1g and its fine.   

[Cunning Punt]

Thanks for all this. Yes, I need to do circuits more often. I will also look up this maca drink.

This time I plan to take Cialis , tonight before going to bed. I'll report of the findings.

Would be interested to hear your feedback.

[Marmalade]

protein shakes. Do that and within a week ten days, the morning wood is noticeably stronger.... intact I'm waking up with errections, like a teenager or should I say the errections are waking me up.

I don't beleive in abstaining too long... I think 10 days two weeks and you need a release to get you stronger.


I started adding 2.5g of mana to my shake a few weeks ago and the taste was rank. Dropped it to 1g and its fine.

I bought some macs and added to shakes. Doesn’t mix easy and tastes crap. Only used less than a quarter of the tub.

[fantasticmrfox]

Thanks for all this. Yes, I need to do circuits more often. I will also look up this maca drink.

Would be interested to hear your feedback.

Oooooh last tip from me, sound like some bloody health evangelist....im not but I'm in my 40s and do ok, if you get what I mean...

For healthy hormone production you need fats....and I don't mean a trip to the chippy. But take a good fish oil every day. And not that cheap seven seas stuff, but go to one of these high end health food places and theyll have a good selection, sourced from cleaner waters nd more potent than what you get in Boots. There is flax seed oil if you're vegan but im told the body uses fish oil more efficiently....

So that's it, I've done my bit for men's health.

[Plan R]

I started adding 2.5g of mana to my shake a few weeks ago and the taste was rank. Dropped it to 1g and its fine.

I bought some macs and added to shakes. Doesn’t mix easy and tastes crap. Only used less than a quarter of the tub.

Bit confused here gents, are we talking maca (as in maca root) ?

[king tarzan]

If I have seen a lady a few times replaying those memories in my mind on my  way to seeing her again and then getting to her holding her gently my erections at times are as solid as say 25 years back..

[BarryProudfoot]

Bit confused here gents, are we talking maca (as in maca root) ?

Yeah. The brand I use is Minvita

[BarryProudfoot]

Oooooh last tip from me, sound like some bloody health evangelist....im not but I'm in my 40s and do ok, if you get what I mean...

For healthy hormone production you need fats

....and I don't mean a trip to the chippy. But take a good fish oil every day. And not that cheap seven seas stuff, but go to one of these high end health food places and theyll have a good selection, sourced from cleaner waters nd more potent than what you get in Boots. There is flax seed oil if you're vegan but im told the body uses fish oil more efficiently....

So that's it, I've done my bit for men's health.

I posted earlier that I thought I wasn't consuming enough healthy fats for this exact reason

[Marmalade]

Maybe obvious but ...
Some people on the thread have expressed concern over combinations of ED drugs and drugs for heart or circulation, blood pressure and so on.
You can use a website like WebMD and input your drugs then see the interactions and the severity on a scale of four. Lets you see if some are more compatible with your prescription drugs than others (but ask your GP and tell him what the indications appear to be).

[manobo]

Eat healthy, live healthy and think healthy. It's best to avoid synthetic substances.

[Sinz]

Eat healthy, live healthy and think healthy. It's best to avoid synthetic substances.

Probably sharing some of your experiences via review would also be a good thing to do.

[Cunning Punt]

Eat healthy, live healthy and think healthy. It's best to avoid synthetic substances.

It is in an ideal world but easy for someone who doesn't have any inherent problems to say that.

Unfortunately, despite doing all that healthy stuff, some people's bodies and metabolisms have natural deficiencies through no fault of their own and need a little bit of extra help.

[Xtro]

Oooooh last tip from me, sound like some bloody health evangelist....im not but I'm in my 40s and do ok, if you get what I mean...

For healthy hormone production you need fats....and I don't mean a trip to the chippy. But take a good fish oil every day. And not that cheap seven seas stuff, but go to one of these high end health food places and theyll have a good selection, sourced from cleaner waters nd more potent than what you get in Boots. There is flax seed oil if you're vegan but im told the body uses fish oil more efficiently....

So that's it, I've done my bit for men's health.

The whole fish oil business is a scam. External Link/Members Only
We are told we need to increase our omega 3's, but in reality we should be lowering our omega 6 intake to bring the ratio back to a healthy balance.
Omega 3 is anti-inflammatory whilst omega 6 is pro-inflammatory. Consider lowering your omega 6 intake by consuming less processed foods and certain oils.
Fish oil can contain PCBs (toxic industrial pollutants from the ocean) that can be carcinogenic and mutagenic. Algae-derived omega 3 is considered safer and also vegan friendly.

[CityTillIDie]

Maybe obvious but ...
Some people on the thread have expressed concern over combinations of ED drugs and drugs for heart or circulation, blood pressure and so on.
You can use a website like WebMD and input your drugs then see the interactions and the severity on a scale of four. Lets you see if some are more compatible with your prescription drugs than others (but ask your GP and tell him what the indications appear to be).

An excellent point.
I had a (mild) heart attack three years ago and take various medicaments daily.
I started prescription Sildenafil a couple of years ago after consulting my GP. He explained it would not react adversely with my tablets and it doesn’t. Works a treat. Peace of mind also achieved!

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