A bit of an introduction and some advice required please (newbie)

[skittish]

Afternoon Gents (and Ladies),

As you will see I’m new here, I’m not entirely sure how I found this site but I’m hoping I’ll be glad I did. I’m 45 and have been a single working dad for the last four years since my darling wife passed.

I have never had a punt, if that’s the correct term? I have however perused the AW pages for several months but never had the bottle to contact any of the girls. I loved my wife dearly and I’m nowhere near ready to introduce a new woman to my kids, but I have needs that aren’t being met and four years is a bloody long time. My kids are now having a social life and are out more often than in and not so dependent on me. So meeting an escort seems like an uncomplicated solution to me.

My problem is that I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t be able to turn up at some strangers flat, go straight into the bedroom and perform. I’ve had pretty much no social life lately other than the odd lunchtime drink with work colleagues. I’m looking for something a little more than just a sexual encounter. In my head I see a more social engagement with drinks and a meal first, some conversation and then a bit of passion to conclude. I’m very afraid that I’m going to be disappointed with such high expectations. Is it possible to find this type of meet with a working girl?

Do any of the members here experience these types of meets? Can anyone recommend somebody suitable? I have a decent job so my disposable income is sensible but I’m not loaded and I’m willing to travel a fair distance. I’m based in Ipswich and to be honest I really don’t fancy any of the local WG’s.

Any suggestions, or am I being too optimistic with my expectations?

Cheers Tel

[yumyum3]

In my head I see a more social engagement with drinks and a meal first, some conversation and then a bit of passion to conclude. I’m very afraid that I’m going to be disappointed with such high expectations.

I think you are on the wrong site. You probably need to join a dating site by the sounds of it. 

[Jimmyredcab]

I think you are on the wrong site. You probably need to join a dating site by the sounds of it. 

Absolutely correct.
Most prostitutes are totally mercenary, they want your cash, they don't want to be your "friend".   

[skittish]

I think you are on the wrong site. You probably need to join a dating site by the sounds of it. 

I'm not surprised with that response, dating sites are too complicated I don't want a regular partner or have to exchange dozens of emails/texts/phone calls. I just want to combine some guaranteed sex with a good night out.

Tel

[skittish]

Absolutely correct.
Most prostitutes are totally mercenary, they want your cash, they don't want to be your "friend".   

They don't even pretend to be your friend for one evening, even though I'd be paying them?
What's the best I can expect in your opinions?

I knew I've watch 'Pretty Woman' too many bloody times.

[Matium]

What age group do you want?

The younger the WG the tighter but more empty headed she'll be.

Nearly every WG will offer a dinner date, typically for about 4 hours where 2-3 hours is for going out to a nice restaurant and 1-2 hours is private time.

[Jimmyredcab]

I'm not surprised with that response, dating sites are too complicated I don't want a regular partner or have to exchange dozens of emails/texts/phone calls. I just want to combine some guaranteed sex with a good night out.
Tel

Let me explain the problem, prostitutes will only have a night out with you if you pay for their time, some may reduce the rate slightly for social time but it will not be a cheap experience.

[Jimmyredcab]

Nearly every WG will offer a dinner date, typically for about 4 hours where 2-3 hours is for going out to a nice restaurant and 1-2 hours is private time.

Yes, of course they will but it could still set him back £500 without the bill in the restaurant.   

[Matium]

Well yes, a 4 hour dinner date will cost you about £500 + cost of dinner + wine + taxis on top.

You can try dating a civvy girl.

This dating agency specialises in arranging dinner dates:

External Link/Members Only

[skittish]

Yes, of course they will but it could still set him back £500 without the bill in the restaurant.   

Aha, OK I should add when my wife was still here we would go out at least twice a month, so meal, drinks cabs, babysitter etc wouldn't see much change from £150 a time. The last four years I haven't been anywhere without my kids or their grandparents.

I get the paying for her time, wouldn't expect otherwise and I get it won't be cheap I'm asking for something specific so I know I have to pay the premium. Where I think my plan falls down is how can I be sure I'm going to get what I'm paying for. It's not possible is it?

I think I have to take the bull by the horns and at least give it a go if only just the once. 

[Curious6705]

Hi Skittish & welcome to UKP -

It's a bit of a trek from Ipswich but I believe Dagmara in Bristol had an offer of 5 hours at her home in central Bristol including dinner, for £300.

Her Dagmara profile is not up at the moment but I've heard it said this is also her -

External Link/Members Only

Her Dagmara profile comes and goes. It's not there at the moment, but if experience is anything to go by, it may reappear soon. A number of UKP members have seen her. She's discussed on the thread below -

Hi

She is a fun girl.

I quite fancy her 5 hour offer at £300

Could tick lots of boxes in that time. 

Regards

Dr T

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=4530.50

[skittish]

Well yes, a 4 hour dinner date will cost you about £500 + cost of dinner + wine + taxis on top.

You can try dating a civvy girl.

This dating agency specialises in arranging dinner dates:

External Link/Members Only

Thanks for the link Matium, it's still a dating agency. I have to make it clearer I do want a kind of a date, but once the date has ended so should the contact, if you get my drift. Not many woman on dating sites would be ok with that would they? And the effort required to hook up with someone is just more than I'm willing to put in.

A night out and anonymous sex is what I'm craving.

[MisterP]

So meeting an escort seems like an uncomplicated solution to me.

Your desires are understandable but I think your optimism has made it complicated.  I'd have sympathy for anyone who spends that much money only to find they didn't meet expectation.
Just with an hr meet could have a chat, share some vino and then do whatever you feel comfortable doing.  You could repeat this several times with several wg's and it still wouldn't be as much money or hassle in gambling a suitable dinner date.

[mudlark]

I get the paying for her time, wouldn't expect otherwise and I get it won't be cheap I'm asking for something specific so I know I have to pay the premium. Where I think my plan falls down is how can I be sure I'm going to get what I'm paying for. It's not possible is it?

I think I have to take the bull by the horns and at least give it a go if only just the once.

You can't be sure that you will get what you are paying for but you can minimise the risk - look for the girl's  feedback on Adultwork from punters who have a lot of feedback themselves (if that makes sense?).  Look for field reports - they tend to be a bit simpering at times but if a girl has many good field reports from different punters, she is probably doing something right.  The trouble is, if you leave a negative report on Adultwork, you will probably get one back in retaliation so they should be taken with a pinch of salt.

If you have a few options that you have been considering, you can always ask if anyone has any opinions on them specifically, you are likely to get some very honest answers here.

Finally, you may be sure that you don't want to just walk into a flat to perform but you will probably be made to feel more welcome than you think, some working girls are very good actresses and risking £100-£150 on something that you may not enjoy might be a bit more palatable than blowing £500

[skittish]

Hi Skittish & welcome to UKP -

It's a bit of a trek from Ipswich but I believe Dagmara in Bristol had an offer of 5 hours at her home in central Bristol including dinner, for £300.

Thanks for the welcome and thanks for the tip, seems interesting I'll definitely keep an eye on the thread and see if she reappears soon.

Tel

[jackdaw]

I really don't see it as all that unusual a request, and can't see any difficulty organising it.... as you've already accepted that by most punters standards its a darn expensive way to get a shag.

For me, there's 2 possible ways forward:-
1/ Set up a reverse auction on %%%, and make your selection from the resulting bids.
2/ Have a series of short punts, then put proposition to WG that you get on with best.

But.... as my esteemed colleagues have already suggested.... not too much point in asking for specific recs from us for a "date type" experience. We are more at the "clothes off and start shagging after 5 mins" end of the market.

[Ali Katt]

Your desires are understandable but I think your optimism has made it complicated.  I'd have sympathy for anyone who spends that much money only to find they didn't meet expectation.
Just with an hr meet could have a chat, share some vino and then do whatever you feel comfortable doing.  You could repeat this several times with several wg's and it still wouldn't be as much money or hassle in gambling a suitable dinner date.

I agree with this. If it is your first time with an escort, it is best not to make a long appointment such as an overnighter or dinner date. Some escorts will give you a cock and bull story how two hours is best for a first timer this is nonsense. My first was an hour and it probably equated to 30 mins of actual sex and foreplay, if that; now I book 30 mins and get around 30 mins of sex. Enough rambling.

Do you want sex or a date? I know you've answered it, but which is more important to you?

Are you willing to pay £300+ ?

It's also worth noting there are some escorts who don't do dinner dates and some who aren't dating suitable.

Best you could hope for is a relaxed time with a friendly girl and some great sex. I separate dating from punting and hardly date; I'm too lazy!

[Tony Montana]

Perhaps you should try a reverse booking on AW.  that way you could get a good discount on the dinner part of the booking, and you can choose the best girl that responds

[fisherofsouls]

Get yourself on plentyoffish dot com. It's full of women who only want no strings attached sex. Fair proportion of nutters it's true, but I've had a couple of decent dates off there.

[skittish]

Finally, you may be sure that you don't want to just walk into a flat to perform but you will probably be made to feel more welcome than you think, some working girls are very good actresses and risking £100-£150 on something that you may not enjoy might be a bit more palatable than blowing £500

That makes a lot of sense, it's almost try before you buy (only you pay), then if I still want to go ahead with a dinner date I'll at least know what I'm getting in to. I've read a few well several reports of girls wanting to get it over with ASAP and get you back out in the street so hadn't properly considered it.

Thanks guys lots of good advice I guess it's better for me to make a fool of myself here first rather than get ripped off. It'll be pretty obvious to the unscrupulous that I'm a novice.

Tel

[Jimmyredcab]

For me, there's 2 possible ways forward:-
1/ Set up a reverse auction on %%%, and make your selection from the resulting bids.

Reverse auction on pro$$ienet, that's a new one on me. ??????

[Matium]

Try Imogen

External Link/Members Only  or External Link/Members Only

Contact her directly for her dinner date rate, a lot of WGs will reduce the social time to about £50 an hour.

[AnthG]

For me, there's 2 possible ways forward:-
1/ Set up a reverse auction on %%%, and make your selection from the resulting bids.
2/ Have a series of short punts, then put proposition to WG that you get on with best.

These are the best two advices I would say.

But not a pro$$ienet Reverse Auction (didn't even know pro$$ienet do that TBH, I would also hate to see who picked it up as its all the sisterhood who congregates there). But put one on Adultwork and say, 4 hours; £250; but specificy that three of them are my taking you out of a meal first.

I can bet you will get some people bidding on it.

Personally speaking as someone who wants similar to you. I would consider strongly option 2. As to be honest many times I have booked with girls and while ok for sex. I would not want to socialise with them. Other times, hell yeah I would love to go for it with them. And there is no way of knowing which category they fit until you meet them.

[Matium]

I don't think there are Reverse Bids on Prossienet, probably a mistake by the poster.

A reverse bid on Adultwork is an option though.

[skittish]

Perhaps you should try a reverse booking on AW.  that way you could get a good discount on the dinner part of the booking, and you can choose the best girl that responds

I'm not really familiar with the reverse booking, can I specify a different town to my home town because I'd like to do this away from people I might know, I'm not comfortable about including a photo is it required? I notice you need credits to do this which isn't a problem, have you tried it at all do you get results?

Cheers Tel

[jackdaw]

Reverse auction on pro$$ienet, that's a new one on me. ??????

Oops. My first reaction on seeing your comment was "But Jim does that himself..."

Second reaction... when I realised I'd put %%% rather than adultwork was to have a good laugh at myself. Goodness what would have happened to Skittish if he'd followed my advise.... most likely plenty of offers to charge 500 quid for three hours tea drinking.

[skittish]

Oops. My first reaction on seeing your comment was "But Jim does that himself..."

Second reaction... when I realised I'd put %%% rather than adultwork was to have a good laugh at myself. Goodness what would have happened to Skittish if he'd followed my advise.... most likely plenty of offers to charge 500 quid for three hours tea drinking.

I'd never heard of pro$$ienet is that a good thing?
Should I bother?

[mh]

Oops. My first reaction on seeing your comment was "But Jim does that himself..."

Second reaction... when I realised I'd put %%% rather than adultwork was to have a good laugh at myself. Goodness what would have happened to Skittish if he'd followed my advise.... most likely plenty of offers to charge 500 quid for three hours tea drinking.

Sorry to be pedantic (someone "pedanted" me earlier - justifiably though!) but also it's called a Reverse Booking, not any kind of automatic "auction". I'm just making sure the newbie is not totally confused!

You set up a listing for what you want and where you want it, leave plenty of time between the listing going up and when you want the date, I'd say at least a week, more if possible. Be as detailed as you can about what you want. Specify what you are willing to pay but don't overdo it. You can offer somewhat less than most ladies on there expect to receive for a several hour meeting.

For every reply go back and make sure they explicitly agree to all your individual requirements. Expect lots of timewasters bidding, especially if you are offering a lot of money for a long booking. Good luck.

[mh]

I'd never heard of %%% is that a good thing?
Should I bother?

Don't waste your time looking for accurate information there. It's often more fluffy waffle than fact. They'll appear to make you feel welcome but will slice your balls off if you transgress one of the hundred hidden rules.

[Matium]

I'd never heard of %%% is that a good thing?
Should I bother?

No!

That's the place for mice, fluffies and acolytes!

This is the place for men!

 

[jackdaw]

Sorry to be pedantic (someone "pedanted" me earlier - justifiably though!) but also it's called a Reverse Booking, not any kind of automatic "auction". I'm just making sure the newbie is not totally confused!

Nah, thanks for setting record straight. I knew what I meant... but made a pigs ear of explaining it.

Jack

[AnthG]

I'm not comfortable about including a photo is it required?

She does not care what you look like. Prostitution 101.

[Wayang]

Don't waste your time looking for accurate information there. It's often more fluffy waffle than fact. They'll appear to make you feel welcome but will slice your balls off if you transgress one of the hundred hidden rules.

You have to differentiate between the 'punting discussion' and their FRs.  Most serious punters have been put on pre-mod (ie all posts reviewed before they are published) for the punting discussion which is managed by a coven of witches.
However their FRs have some slue as do their search facility for WGs availability.

I am just curious as to how you found UK Punting which is not an obvious web search phrase?

[skittish]

No!

That's the place for mice, fluffies and acolytes!

This is the place for men!

 

I'm not familiar with some of the terminology on the boards, is there a glossary?
What's a fluffy?

Ignorant Tel

[AnthG]

I'm not familiar with some of the terminology on the boards, is there a glossary?
What's a fluffy?

Ignorant Tel

It really does not matter for you really. Seriously.

[skittish]

I am just curious as to how you found UK Punting which is not an obvious web search phrase?

I really don't remember how I arrived here but it must have been via something I read on AW. I do remember getting linked directly to a negative AW report and thought this looks like a good forum to join.

[Matium]

I'm not familiar with some of the terminology on the boards, is there a glossary?
What's a fluffy?

Ignorant Tel

Fluffy = someone who disguises a sexual transaction with the trappings of romance

Acolyte = Arse licker

A full list of acronyms is here:

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=6887.msg100612#msg100612

[Sailormack]

Tel

Let me hit you with some advice here.

I think that it's important that you separate the sex and the date thing here. If you book an escort for 3-4 hours you will not be getting much change from 500 notes.

IIWY I would use a parlour or local 30 /45 minute escort to get the sex out of the way. This will cost you £50 -70 a pop. Then get yourself onto POF where you will find plenty of women on there you can date or bang.

Combine the two and with the guaranteed sex from the parlour / escort you can relax on the dates and let things take their course naturally.

There is a place for escorts and the secret is knowing when to use them.

BTW a caveat here, escorts can be more addictive than crack cocaine, so be careful out there 

[Jimmyredcab]

I'd never heard of %%% is that a good thing?
Should I bother?

%%% is great if you are into fat 40 year olds, if not, don't bother. 

[Jimmyredcab]

Tel

Let me hit you with some advice here.

I think that it's important that you separate the sex and the date thing here. If you book and escort for 3-4 hours you will not be getting much change from 500 notes.

Can I point out another possible problem, suppose he meets a girl that he really likes big time, it could turn into a very expensive adventure. 

[Sailormack]

Can I point out another possible problem, suppose he meets a girl that he really likes big time, it could turn into a very expensive adventure. 

Of course.

That's the main reason why he has to split it.

[AnthG]

Can I point out another possible problem, suppose he meets a girl that he really likes big time, it could turn into a very expensive adventure. 

Agree that is literally the true definition of torture. And I only wish I was joking.

[skittish]

Can I point out another possible problem, suppose he meets a girl that he really likes big time, it could turn into a very expensive adventure. 

I am taking this all on board and I'm a realist so I think I'm learning some important facts that I would have naively overlooked, so cheers to all that have voiced opinions/concerns.

[sucky2dollar]

I’m looking for something a little more than just a sexual encounter. In my head I see a more social engagement with drinks and a meal first, some conversation and then a bit of passion to conclude. I’m very afraid that I’m going to be disappointed with such high expectations. Is it possible to find this type of meet with a working girl?

You seem to be after something more meaningful, if sex isn't your main goal I suggest you try the dating scene first and see how that goes. There are plenty of single women that would like to be wined and dined and can offer real companionship which may even lead to a relationship.

I wouldn't persue regular dinner dates with WG's not because theres anything wrong with it but more because you're paying for her time and it could end up costing you quite a bit of money.

[AnthG]

I wouldn't persue regular dinner dates with WG's not because theres anything wrong with it but more because you're paying for her time and it could end up costing you quite a bit of money.

I knew I've watch 'Pretty Woman' too many bloody times.

All I will add is, isn't one of the most famous scenes from the film that she does not have a clue how to act in a real restaurant.
 
The hotel manager spends all afternoon teaching her the right etiquette and she still messes it all up causing the waiter to catch her food she flies across the room as she uses the wrong forks etc and generally making a right hash of things until Ralph Bellemy takes pity on her and says he also doesn't know which fork goes with what either (for the character, unlikely)

The thing that would worry me about taking an escort to a restaurant. Is would she think she needs to act all slutty and such. Or would she start thinking she needs to act classy. I honestly get the feeling of the girls I see its the former they'd act given their age.

[skittish]

The thing that would worry me about taking an escort to a restaurant. Is would she think she needs to act all slutty and such. Or would she start thinking she needs to act classy. I honestly get the feeling of the girls I see its the former they'd act given their age.

I do see everybody's point and I think I'm going to put the dinner date thing on the side burner for now.
I'm trying to find a 30's something as has been suggested by others, I'm finding it much harder to find someone I actually fancy in that age group perhaps I shouldn't have looked at the young one's first!

Tel

[AnthG]

I'm trying to find a 30's something as has been suggested by others, I'm finding it much harder to find someone I actually fancy in that age group perhaps I shouldn't have looked at the young one's first!

I would say just hunt %%%s FRs for your area to find someone that is recommended.

External Link/Members Only

If you are no longer thinking of the dinner date, then the question is worth asking, why look for someone over 30?

The over 30s would be best for the dinner date type booking. The 21 year old girl you linked to earlier was gorgeous.

[Matium]

Yes she was gorgeous.

Did you look at Imogen?

What age range do you prefer in women?

[skittish]

Yes she was gorgeous.

Did you look at Imogen?

What age range do you prefer in women?

Yes looked at Imogen liked a lot thanks for tip, I'm not sure if I have a preferred age range not really thought about it until now. I know this probably isn't necessarily the right way about getting a satisfying punt but it's more about the looks. I figure if I'm paying I want somebody nice to look at not to mention it'll massage my ego a good bit.

Tel

I meant to say Imogen phone number not displayed at moment guess she only shows it when available?

[NIK]

I'd never heard of %%% is that a good thing?
Should I bother?

My troll alert is currently ringing.