Seventeen arrested in human trafficking raids in London

[Corus Boy]

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Officers went to 16 addresses after working with Romanian police, who simultaneously raided four addresses in Romania and arrested one man.

In London, police took 29 potential victims - women aged between 20 and 40 - to a "place of safety".

The suspects - 14 men and three women - remain in custody in central London.

The 17 arrested people, who are aged between 17 and 50, are being held on suspicion of modern slavery, controlling prostitution, Class A drug offences and firearm offences.

[RandomGuy99]

I'm very glad to see this.

These bastards should be put in prison.

[Xtro]

I'm very glad to see this.

These bastards should be put in prison.

....... for LIFE!!

[Home Alone]

....... for LIFE!!

... and let's hope that means just what it says; not that they're let out after only 10 years or so.

[Moreish]

+1

[latecomer]

They should be sent back to Romania to be put in one of their prisons.  Although the do-gooders are trying to raise the "standards" in their prisons (human rights, yawn ...) they won't be as luxurious as ours.

[fisherofsouls]

I just don't do young, cheap Roms any more and this is one of the reasons why...

[unclepokey]

I just don't do young, cheap Roms any more and this is one of the reasons why...

I never have and never will.
Uncle Pokey

[RadioKid]

They just regroup in jail. Deport em and confiscate any I'll gotten gains

[winkywanky]

They'll just be back again after serving a paltry, wishy-washy sentence.

About time we had ID cards in this country, and a proper joined-up entry system at airports/ports where undesirables can instantly detected and told to simply fuck off before they even get their smelly feet on British soil again.

[winkywanky]

They just regroup in jail. Deport em and confiscate any I'll gotten gains

Our roads are falling apart, Romanian chaingangs (modern-day Boys from the Blackstuff) to resurface them before completing their sentences and being kicked out  .

[unclepokey]

They'll just be back again after serving a paltry, wishy-washy sentence.

About time we had ID cards in this country, and a proper joined-up entry system at airports/ports where undesirables can instantly detected and told to simply fuck off before they even get their smelly feet on British soil again.

+1

[James999]

Our roads are falling apart, Romanian chaingangs (modern-day Boys from the Blackstuff) to resurface them before completing their sentences and being kicked out

The old tramp Corbyn would have something to say about that, he puts foreigners and criminals above law abiding Brits 

[tantric talents]

Harrow and Rayners Lane Imperial Drive locations.
One of the girls admitted to earning 2K a week.
Apparently no one was arrested there.
Anyone familiar with the locations? Sound like well dodgy brothels 

[inspetorbarros]

Brazilian pimps are  in deep shit too:


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[winkywanky]

....and under the Procceds of Crime Act, they'll have all their bling/expensive cars/Designer tat confiscated too  .

Another lot for the chaingang  .

[Itsnotshy]

Looks like they didn't get any of the punters, which is a shame.
The wankers who see these girls, and I bet they suspect what's going on, should be prosecuted as well.
Like the badly behaved kid in class, who gets everyone punished for their wrongdoing, they bring this hobby into disrepute and risk a sex buyer law for all of us.

[webpunter]

Getting caught by the rozzers as a punter in a brothel, when they are doing the raid, ain't a disaster

Not ideal, will turn your boner into mr floppy, but unlikely that anything will happen to you

They might take your details to put the wind up you but not bother recording the info / doing anything with it [better things to do]

Loads of parlours are effectively brothels but well run they don't get targeted

Just don't behave like a tosser, when you are trying to find your trousers / putting your undies on back to front & buttoning up your shirt lop-sided 

What could happen to you changes big style if it transpires that the burds have been trafficked

Even worse if they are under age

Either can be a criminal conviction & if both you really could be up shit creek without .....

[tynetunnel]

Good news. Great to hear that the rozzers are rounding up some of these scum. WW has the right idea, put them to work filling in the pot holes....

[scutty brown]

The Met's press release
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at "addresses in Redbridge, Havering, Barking and Dagenham, Newham, Brentwood and Tower Hamlets."

[MissWolf]

As an indie SP the trafficking and slavery of girls into this industry breaks my heart as well as angering me greatly

It's not always easy for decent SS's to avoid these girls on a one off

I'm delighted to see that the police ar taking this on, it's the tip of the iceberg but at least it's a start

One issue is that the vast number of SS's drive this industry and the vast majority of them are not on here, they are not the concerned and conscientious people that post here, they for the most part are the converted, it's getting the message to the pump and dump brigade that it's not ok punt this way,  how you do that is beyond me but remove the demand and the supply will fall.

I'm aware I might be talking through my arse 

[tynetunnel]

As an indie SP the trafficking and slavery of girls into this industry breaks my heart as well as angering me greatly

It's not always easy for decent SS's to avoid these girls on a one off

I'm delighted to see that the police ar taking this on, it's the tip of the iceberg but at least it's a start

One issue is that the vast number of SS's drive this industry and the vast majority of them are not on here, they are not the concerned and conscientious people that post here, they for the most part are the converted, it's getting the message to the pump and dump brigade that it's not ok punt this way,  how you do that is beyond me but remove the demand and the supply will fall.

I'm aware I might be talking through my arse 

I actually thought your post made a lot of sense and is well written 

[winkywanky]

You're not talking through your arse Miss Wolf, although if you were able to you could charge at least double your current rate  .

Joking aside though, I wouldn't mind betting that a very large number on UKP have inadvertently punted a trafficked girl, and I include myself.

Unless we totally restrict our choices to well-established, verifiably independent UK girls there is always that risk. We can lessen it by adhering to certain protocols but frankly, for anyone living in a large metropolis with a large non-indigenous community, it'd be hard to totally avoid.

[MissWolf]

I actually thought your post made a lot of sense and is well written 

Thank you, I do try 

[scutty brown]

The thing to remember is that the police can only carry out these takedowns if punters like us tell them who the victims are and where to find them.
The police are only as good as the intelligence they are given - and only punters can provide that

[MissWolf]

You're not talking through your arse Miss Wolf, although if you were able to you could charge at least double your current rate  .

Joking aside though, I wouldn't mind betting that a very large number on UKP have inadvertently punted a trafficked girl, and I include myself.

Unless we totally restrict our choices to well-established, verifiably independent UK girls there is always that risk. We can lessen it by adhering to certain protocols but frankly, for anyone living in a large metropolis with a large non-indigenous community, it'd be hard to totally avoid.

Thank you

I'm reasonably aware how difficult it must be in larger cities and think that in the deep countryside of Wales we are quite remote and a little protected from the reality of the other sides of this industry

However we should never ignore it either as an SP or SS

It's hard to be honest so your openness it's something that should be respected

Now I'm off to practice talking through my arse 

[James999]

, it's getting the message to the pump and dump brigade that it's not ok punt this way,  how you do that is beyond me but remove the demand and the supply will fall.

Why are you trying to blame the innocent client for the problem caused by the Pimps / traffickers 

[RandomGuy99]

Why are you trying to blame the innocent client for the problem caused by the Pimps / traffickers 

Well if people stopped using these trafficked girls then the traffickers would bugger off elsewhere and go get a job.

I don't think it's that hard to spot them. Signs are usually several girls obviously using the same address and having very similar style or background photos, similar profile descriptions and clearly not fluent English in their profile descriptions and a low price that is clearly not reflective of how the girl looks and the services they offer. Another giveaway is when the girl doesn't appear to be confident about the services they do e.g. profile says they do anal, but when contacted they say they don't.  This usually indicates that somebody else wrote their profile.

I avoid all of these types as I don't want to be part of that problem.

[James999]

Well if people stopped using these trafficked girls then the traffickers would bugger off elsewhere and go get a job.

And if the sea wasn't made of water you wouldn't get wet if you fell into it 

As for the Pimp / Trafficker getting a job, thats not what criminals do, they simply change their crime 

[webpunter]

Is this where men are men & sheep are nervous ? 

I'm reasonably aware how difficult it must be in larger cities and think that in the deep countryside of Wales we are quite remote and a little protected from the reality of the other sides of this industry

[RandomGuy99]

And if the sea wasn't made of water you wouldn't get wet if you fell into it 

As for the Pimp / Trafficker getting a job, thats not what criminals do, they simply change their crime 

There are plenty of indies or agency SPs who have made a conscious decision to do the job they do and most of them enjoy it.  Spend a bit extra and have a conscience free fuck.

The problem is horny guys who want a cheap fuck with a girl who is clearly being trafficked. Putting money the way of their pimps just encourages them to traffick more girls.

Let the criminals go do another crime, which doesn't exploit people.  Or better still report the pimps and make their life more difficult to deter them.  Some of them may get put in prison and then be on the radar of the police and immigration officials.  No doubt with Brexit the UK will introduce a system like the US ESTA where travellers will require authorisation to enter the UK and that authorisation will involve running their names and other details against the databases of government agencies and when they do this stuff they check for aliases and other people known to live at the travellers address, people with similar names, relationships between individuals and shared addresses, etc.

[James999]

What about the Pimps / Agencies 

I'm with you in a perfect world all Pimps would be sent to prison, it's just not a perfect world 

[RandomGuy99]

What about the Pimps / Agencies 

I'm with you in a perfect world all Pimps would be sent to prison, it's just not a perfect world 

As they say "Change starts with you".  If we all stop using them then there will be less incentive for them to traffick the girls. 

[James999]

And get all the Junkies to stop taking drugs as well, make the pushers and dealers go bankrupt 

[RandomGuy99]

And get all the Junkies to stop taking drugs as well, make the pushers and dealers go bankrupt 

Or you can be like you and do sweet FA. That'll definitely work to discourage them. How about just trying instead of being complacent?

[James999]

Or you can be like you and do sweet FA. That'll definitely work to discourage them. How about just trying instead of being complacent?

So you typing on the internet about an ideal world is superior to my being realistic, love that logic 

[MissWolf]

Why are you trying to blame the innocent client for the problem caused by the Pimps / traffickers 

Hi James I think the FULL quote you are looking for is below...

One issue is that the vast number of SS's drive this industry and the vast majority of them are not on here, they are not the concerned and conscientious people that post here, they for the most part are the converted, it's getting the message to the pump and dump brigade that it's not ok punt this way,  how you do that is beyond me but remove the demand and the supply will fall.

It's called context

You're welcome 

[RandomGuy99]

So you typing on the internet about an ideal world is superior to my being realistic, love that logic 

All I'm asking is for people to try it.  It may make zero difference but I'd rather people tried than did nothing.

[James999]

It's called context

It's called relevant, your post was rambling and waffle (as you yourself admitted above) I quoted the relevant part 

I suspect if you had your way clients would only be allowed to visit fat old British women 

[pewpewpew]

Well if people stopped using these trafficked girls then the traffickers would bugger off elsewhere and go get a job.

I don't think it's that hard to spot them. Signs are usually several girls obviously using the same address and having very similar style or background photos, similar profile descriptions and clearly not fluent English in their profile descriptions and a low price that is clearly not reflective of how the girl looks and the services they offer. Another giveaway is when the girl doesn't appear to be confident about the services they do e.g. profile says they do anal, but when contacted they say they don't.  This usually indicates that somebody else wrote their profile.

I avoid all of these types as I don't want to be part of that problem.

Sorry mate but what are you on about? If it was that easy to spot a trafficked girl there wouldn't be a problem as not many of us would go to see them. As for the signs of a trafficked girl that you stated, that rules out about half of AW. Sure you could live by those rules and you probably would limit your exposure somewhat but you're probably also ruling out a rather large chunk of genuine WGs.

I believe that the pimps do a thorough job of convincing trafficked girls to not make it obvious, so there is always a risk in this game.

Knowingly seeing a trafficked girl is another matter which I do find most disagreeable

[getsbettereverytime]

If you take two areas miles apart on AW let’s say Mk1 and BR1 and then watch for a month there will be dozens of new Rom profiles appear over 4 weeks then be deleted.

But most of the same profiles then re-appear in new areas - there must be so many of these gangs working here going round the uk - if in doubt report them.

[Jonestown]

Let’s wait and see how many of these girls are really “trafficked”, by which I mean here in UK, forced to work as SPs, against their will.

[James999]

Let’s wait and see how many of these girls are really “trafficked”, by which I mean here in UK, forced to work as SPs, against their will.

Good point, people seem to forget how shit it is in places like Romania and Brazil and how desperate some will be to get out for a "better life" 

[puntingpumping1920]

Looks like they didn't get any of the punters, which is a shame.
The wankers who see these girls, and I bet they suspect what's going on, should be prosecuted as well.
Like the badly behaved kid in class, who gets everyone punished for their wrongdoing, they bring this hobby into disrepute and risk a sex buyer law for all of us.

 
IMO most of EE Sex Workers in London are victims of human trafficking 
 
Organized criminal organizations have monopoly on the prostitution market
 
Most EE prostitutes will tell you that a pimp provided the opportunity for them to work here....which is human trafficking
 
Brothels need to be legalized.
 
There needs to be a verification/ certification that escorts need to have for them to work in the UK
 
That verification allows us punters know if they are of age and they are not victims of human trafficking

[MassageBloke]

Legalise brothels. Problem solved.

[James999]

Legalise brothels. Problem solved.

How would that solve the problem 

[puntingpumping1920]

How would that solve the problem 

 
It doesn't solve the problem, but it allows the customer to know which brothels are run by trafficking gangs
 
There needs to be laws that require that prostitutes undergo regular health checks for sexually transmitted diseases too

[winkywanky]

 
IMO most of EE Sex Workers in London are victims of human trafficking 
 
Organized criminal organizations have monopoly on the prostitution market
 
Most EE prostitutes will tell you that a pimp provided the opportunity for them to work here....which is human trafficking
 
Brothels need to be legalized.
 
There needs to be a verification/ certification that escorts need to have for them to work in the UK
 
That verification allows us punters know if they are of age and they are not victims of human trafficking

You make fair points about legalising things and enabling verification.

But is it really fair to say that girls who have come to the UK willingly and knowingly to be sex workers are really 'trafficked'? I don't know the actual wording of the laws around this, but for me, trafficking is when a girl is got here on our shores under false pretences, and then pretty well railroaded into sex work. If a girl does it willingly, surely she has selected the pimp as her 'agent', however foolish that may be, and notwithstanding any other laws that the lowlife will probably break during or after that process?

[James999]

It doesn't solve the problem, but it allows the customer to know which brothels are run by trafficking gangs

Not really, how many nail bars and tanning salons are fronts for criminality, they could do the same with brothels getting someone else to front them.

[James999]

But is it really fair to say that girls who have come to the UK willingly and knowingly to be sex workers are really 'trafficked'? I don't know the actual wording of the laws around this, but for me,

Stop there..... the laws not how you feel it should be it's how it is.

The law concerning trafficking is far reaching and simply driving a pro$$ie around the country to work is classed as trafficking, it's based on the movement of the pro$$ie, even if she's travelling of her own free will.

Like many modern laws they are written in a far reaching manner which make it far more difficult for the criminals legal team to wangle him / her out of any charges