What on earth is happening in 2017?

[nickleupip]

I am quite puzzled regarding the 2017 punting situation, at least in North London which is my area of action.

My personal and other punters' feelings are that the choice of girls has been limited. I don't know whether that is because of the forthcoming brexit or whatever the reason, but there have been several times this year that I have been in the search for a good punt, but ended up going to my trusted regulars, which aren't that many...

At the same time, just having come back from one of my regulars, she has been moaning to me that business for many girls has been really slow. She mainly blames a lot of new girls who provide full services for cheap, and claims that is mainly Romanians, lots of which do bareback as well.

I wonder whether the current uncertain situation of hard or soft brexit, plus the pre election period has slowed down the punting market in general. Are punters saving their money at the moment? Are there indeed less girls to choose from? Maybe it is just a north London thing? It would be interesting to read some opinions from punters.

[kamu]

At the same time, just having come back from one of my regulars, she has been moaning to me that business for many girls has been really slow. She mainly blames a lot of new girls who provide full services for cheap, and claims that is mainly Romanians, lots of which do bareback as well.

Tell her to drop her rates and stop trying to charge premium prices then .

The Roma's could be doing us a massive favour by driving over priced British pro$$ies rates down. The problem is more often than not they are a shit punt and the British pro$$ies know it.

[Bud$]

Things have changed! Many working girls and agencies haven't. Simple supply and demand. People like us, the demand siders are being a little more careful with our money - worried about the future and things getting tighter - prices up, wages same or down - there's also been a raising of expectations from the punters, due to the increased use of forums like this and AW. We have become less prepared to accept 2nd best. On the supply side just look at the agencies - one example is the Thai ones. Still charging 150 an hour - all of them for every girl. Even a £10 drop as a one off monthly special might entice some punters back, but no, they just carry on. Laziness and lack of business acumen.

[Flunt]

I'm just tired of the gamble on the punt.

Will she be available when I arrive on time, or have I just spent 30-60 minutes traveling for nothing?

Will she look like the person I was attracted to or B&S, aged 10 years or gained several pounds?

Will she provide the services as advertised and at the rate advertised?

There are slim pickings at the weekend, especially around the midlands and they're all a trek for me. There's a few semi reliable conveyor belts I can jump on which is not that appealing and at £90 for 45 minutes less so. £60 or £70 to run through a check list on half an hour? £100+ to enjoy an hour only to discover she doesn't do whatever...

There are a few I would like to see but I can't bring myself to shell out £150 with no guarantee she'll be any more professional than a pro$$ie who charges £100.

[Type_O_Negative]

I am quite puzzled regarding the 2017 punting situation, at least in North London which is my area of action.

You are in much better situation - i live in London SE - a well known punting desert...

[Flunt]

You are in much better situation - i live in London SE - a well known punting desert...

You have the tube and 100s of options in central London. Plan a,b,c down south, I struggle to find a plan a, and when I text my arrival I've been double booked 

[Flunt]

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=129630.0

That's what passes as a positive in the east midlands 

[YidArmy]

I just moved back to North London and it's a fucking desert. Not a single decent WG in my area anyway. All the decent ones seem to have retired or fucked off elsewhere.

[Sureshot]

There are a few I would like to see but I can't bring myself to shell out £150 with no guarantee she'll be any more professional than a pro$$ie who charges £100.

She wont be. Dont be fooled by the price tag

The market changes all the time. You get waves of good whores folliwed by droughts.  Reliable regs will continue until retirement and replaced by upcoming whores.

Whatever cycle its in, ive never been short of a prossie to unload in

[OneOfaKind]

Nice to know it's not just me then, even with 15-20 independents I still find it's really difficult to get a booking, end up going to regulars!

[mcgee121]

There's plenty of hard dicks but poor supply.  Many SPs don't even know how to do basic comms, right.  Going abroad might be the answer.

[lovemachine]

One way to see it is punters are a bit flush with their punting money now as so many good SPs have recently increased their prices and if you go along with the "supply and demand" theory they must be getting the custom otherwise they would go out of buisness. Or another way is they are getting a much reduced custom at those higher prices but we as punters have more to chose from either at those higher rates or at the lower rates but with a worse service.

[Will2k]

Rate of inflation VS rate of income change. I think of it as an economic question

[NoStringsFun]

Definitely a shortage in St Albans. There are some but overpriced for my budget. Might have to look a bit wider such as Hatfield or Watford.

[The_Don]

I found that some times, I have to travel for a punt. Having a car helps but I do use public transport.

I've punted 3 regs in the last 10 days and I'm not sure. But I think I would only bother returning to one again, (if she working).

At the same time, just having come back from one of my regulars, she has been moaning to me that business for many girls has been really slow. She mainly blames a lot of new girls who provide full services for cheap, and claims that is mainly Romanians, lots of which do bareback as well.

I stay away from known W/G that currently offer, BB. Regardless of nationality

My local punting area is North London.

A search on A/W with in 5 miles has (no rates set, just nationality) had the below results:


131 British

76 Romanian

65 Hungarian

25 Polish

20 Spanish

16 Brazilian

10 Bulgarian


535 = Any

[Flunt]

I found that some times, I have to travel for a punt. Having a car helps but I do use public transport.

I've punted 3 regs in the last 10 days and I'm not sure. But I think I would only bother returning to one again, (if she working).


I stay away from known W/G that currently offer, BB. Regardless of nationality

My local punting area is North London.

A search on A/W with in 5 miles has (no rates set, just nationality) had the below results:


131 British

76 Romanian

65 Hungarian

25 Polish

20 Spanish

16 Brazilian

10 Bulgarian


535 = Any

I'm sure there are that many I could find locally but if I narrow that down by age, size and pro$$ies I like the look of the list shortens a lot. Just on the M1 I can travel anywhere between MK and Nottingham within an hour plus a few places east and west like Coventry, etc. I'm still stuck with the prospect of wasting two or three hours of my life along with a large chunk of cash for what? Being stood up or a shit punt...

[sparkus]

I am not sure why but I think a lot of the better WGs are leaving the profession. AW these days is just a load of skanky Romanians, same for Vivastreet.

[Scotpunter]

From what the OP writes, the girls are moaning there is a lack of customers. A girl I have seen said a similar thing. This says to me that us punters are being more selective and not paying the increased prices.

Two years ago, there were any amount of girls at the £100 for an hour. Now a large proportion are at £150. Very few industries could cope with that size of price increase. Punting is no different.

[mrfishyfoo]

The market changes all the time. You get waves of good whores folliwed by droughts.  Reliable regs will continue until retirement and replaced by upcoming whores.

Whatever cycle its in, ive never been short of a prossie to unload in

+1

The issue IMHO is that too many punters play it safe. 

Fuck that for a game of soldiers.  Punting is calling punting for a reason.

Time to once more TOFTT me thinks. 

[mrfishyfoo]

I am not sure why but I think a lot of the better WGs are leaving the profession. AW these days is just a load of skanky Romanians, same for Vivastreet.

Wish I regularly punted in London. 

What a fucking playground. 

[Home Alone]

Wish I regularly punted in London. 

What a fucking playground. 

It's easily done, mr fishy; but you've got me confused! 

In the last couple of months or so, you've posted about 15 Reviews, all bar one positive, of lasses more or less exclusively on the White side of the Pennines. As you'll be aware, that's partly my stamping ground too and while I wouldn't miss the chance of the occasional punt away from the M62 - if I were on holiday, for example - there's surely  still enough lasses in the vicinity for us to see and enjoy??  

[mrfishyfoo]

It's easily done, mr fishy; but you've got me confused!

I was just kinda surprised that a London punter thinks punting in London is poor.

I've got a list of London girls that's over 100 strong and I'd fuck the lot of them.

[Flunt]

My three trips to London have all been very satisfying 

[Home Alone]

I was just kinda surprised that a London punter thinks punting in London is poor.

I've got a list of London girls that's over 100 strong and I'd fuck the lot of them.

Ah, right; okay. I understand.

You've a MUCH bigger HL than me - mine doesn’t cover anywhere other than the Northwest and Yorkshire & the Humber.

[mrfishyfoo]

Ah, right; okay. I understand.

You've a MUCH bigger HL than me - mine doesn’t cover anywhere other than the Northwest and Yorkshire & the Humber.

Helps that I have a job that involves lots of travelling. 

Thing is that most of my punts end up happening within 20 minutes of the M62. That IMHO says alot about the quality of choice we have in the Roses.

But........I do love to fuck a forum darling so watch this space as my next adventure is going to be a right epic. 

[Flunt]

+1

The issue IMHO is that too many punters play it safe. 

Fuck that for a game of soldiers.  Punting is calling punting for a reason.

Time to once more TOFTT me thinks. 

I timely reminder that we are here to grow old disgracefully!   

[mrfishyfoo]

I timely reminder that we are here to grow old disgracefully!   

Yes indeed. 

My latest jockey is being prepped already. 

Comms are good and she tells me I'm in for the ride of my life. She'll be giving me a good thrashing next week if all goes to plan.   

[uksaldn]

Tell her to drop her rates and stop trying to charge premium prices then .

The Roma's could be doing us a massive favour by driving over priced British pro$$ies rates down. The problem is more often than not they are a shit punt and the British pro$$ies know it.

Well said, I am not going to pay circa £200 just because she is English. It is a open market, if she charges too much, then there are others who will not.

[hw189]

I think it is a combination of several current economic factors at play here. Mainly:

* The £ dropping so much against other currencies: That these women are either just not sending home the amount of money they once used to, or not coming here to work at all.
* Punters are also either tightening their belts and being very selective, or haven't got the disposable income to partake in this leisure anymore; I'm not convinced that the economy is doing as well as what the MSM and government are portraying to its people.

[bigmanbigman]

Wgs rates are soring

[shagmore]

Due to the current exchange rate surprised that so many EE girls are still here, but still they more more on their back in a day than they would with normal work for a couple of weeks.
Their pimps give them great stories of riches, for them to be here with reduced rates.
The occasional EE is ok, but you don't want wall to wall IMHO

[tazz]

Think lots more WGs are now going on SA, much easier as you can pick and chose business and not get endless calls and texts. Also low unemployment must mean more chose to get a normal job.

[hornypnter]

I have noticed too that there seems to lack of British WGs and the one which are on the the AW seemed to have relatively high rates. One i used to see in South East was charging 80/hr and  the following week she has increased to 130/hr - steep increase.

Other factors I have noticed are:
 - EEs girls are also increasing their rates but the service can be hit or miss (mostly miss)
 - the choices of websites poor - before there was ultimate, vixen and even auto-censored was useful but now AW is crap and other sites such as backpage and vivastreet I don't find useful. Most of the time the service offered by the WGs on these sites are not clear and when I called didn't get much information.
 - Also before there used to more varieties of WGs- Black, Indian, Oriental but even on AW there is serious lack of variety.
 - I have also noticed that independent WGs seem to charging more.

I also agree that WGs need to consider the current economic climate in setting their rates as most households are tightening their belt.

[GeorgeForeman]

 I'm thinking that all the EE's are currently here to make as much money as possible before 2019 because when Brexit kicks in they know that they won't be able to stay any longer.  Maybe some of the English escorts who have left the industry will return, but obviously they charge more. Swings and roundabouts.....

[Anadin]

because when Brexit kicks in they know that they won't be able to stay any longer.

Not gonna happen but they think it will and that's probably having an effect.

[JamesKW]

I also agree that WGs need to consider the current economic climate in setting their rates as most households are tightening their belt.

If WGs get business charging higher rates then they are not going to reduce them,it will only happen when business dries up.

[Ali Katt]

I am quite puzzled regarding the 2017 punting situation, at least in North London which is my area of action.

My personal and other punters' feelings are that the choice of girls has been limited. I don't know whether that is because of the forthcoming brexit or whatever the reason, but there have been several times this year that I have been in the search for a good punt, but ended up going to my trusted regulars, which aren't that many...

At the same time, just having come back from one of my regulars, she has been moaning to me that business for many girls has been really slow. She mainly blames a lot of new girls who provide full services for cheap, and claims that is mainly Romanians, lots of which do bareback as well.

I wonder whether the current uncertain situation of hard or soft brexit, plus the pre election period has slowed down the punting market in general. Are punters saving their money at the moment? Are there indeed less girls to choose from? Maybe it is just a north London thing? It would be interesting to read some opinions from punters.

I can't speak for London, but a lot of EEs have gone home for the summer.

[Ali Katt]

If WGs get business charging higher rates then they are not going to reduce them,it will only happen when business dries up.

I can see special offers becoming the norm.