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ClitTeaser

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Will be in London in April on business so will spend some quality time being relaxed.

 Anyone been to a good Phoenix party lately?


vt

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Will be in London in April on business so will spend some quality time being relaxed.

 Anyone been to a good Phoenix party lately?

Yes, I've done a couple of good ones this month. Em is back overseeing things and it shows. Nothing like having someone with the power to hire and fire keeping an eye on quality!  ;)

I'm still very picky about the line-ups as there's still a number of girls that have lost their zest or just don't appeal to me in the gallery. You can party with MILFs for £60 (admittedly at higher ratios) elsewhere, so I don't really want to pay premium rates to party with anything other than enthusiastic girls in their prime. Get a good bunch on the  line-up and you can't beat it.  :thumbsup:

Also, bear in mind that there's rarely more than 5 girls at each party, always seems to be one that can't make it, but the 2:1 ratio is never exceeded.

Offline Stephan200210

I used to go to Phoenix parties for a couple of years when they first opened (then called LMP) but have not been back in quite some time. Good that Em is back and the quality, if recent reviews are to be believed, is improving.

My question, given my long absence, is are the parties now made up (mostly or totally) of MILFs who just want a good time - i.e are not paid, or maybe are paid, but are not real "pros"?

 When I used to attend the majority were hot "working girls" who you could meet at a party, but also arrange to meet privately on another occasion




Offline iPad3

I used to go to Phoenix parties for a couple of years when they first opened (then called LMP) but have not been back in quite some time. Good that Em is back and the quality, if recent reviews are to be believed, is improving.

My question, given my long absence, is are the parties now made up (mostly or totally) of MILFs who just want a good time - i.e are not paid, or maybe are paid, but are not real "pros"?

 When I used to attend the majority were hot "working girls" who you could meet at a party, but also arrange to meet privately on another occasion

That's pretty much still the case,

vt

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I notice a new message on the news section:

Please may I point out that contribution to the party is £160. It’s not pro rata.

Please do not put us in an award situation and haggle. It’s already an amazing value for money.

I can’t get over the fact that some of you are not ashamed of yourselves. Are you not embarrassed?? How tight and mean can one get?? If you can’t afford it and have to break open your piggy bank then please don’t attend.

I find this attitude insulting to the girls and the establishment. This creates such a bad atmosphere and resentment.


So did someone try and ask for a discount because there were less girls partying than were advertised?  :unknown:

Offline Steely Dan

Since you pay as you leave, more likely they left after an hour and tried to pay only 80.

Offline thetinman007

If 6 girls are guaranteed to be working as stated on their website then I want to see six girls.

Offline iPad3

If 6 girls are guaranteed to be working as stated on their website then I want to see six girls.

Sorry but I disagree, Ems USP is that she guarantees a 2:1 ratio and every time I've been that's been the case or better. If she has 3 punters booked for a party she has every right to reduce the numbers IMO.

vt

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Since you pay as you leave, more likely they left after an hour and tried to pay only 80.

Yeah, could have been that...shot his load and wanted out early...the thing is it's a 2hr party, so time to reload and go again.

You can see Em's POV as she can't get a guy to fill in the 2nd hour, so if you leave early you still have to pay your dues.

vt

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Sorry but I disagree, Ems USP is that she guarantees a 2:1 ratio and every time I've been that's been the case or better. If she has 3 punters booked for a party she has every right to reduce the numbers IMO.

My 2 recent parties have been 5 girls plus 6 guys on one & 7 guys on the other...so way better than 2:1 ratio.  :thumbsup:

When there were 7 girls at LMP, I rarely managed to meet more than 5 in the 2 hrs anyway...you really had to scoot to meet all 7.  :D

Colin McGoober

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My 2 recent parties have been 5 girls plus 6 guys on one & 7 guys on the other...so way better than 2:1 ratio.  :thumbsup:

When there were 7 girls at LMP, I rarely managed to meet more than 5 in the 2 hrs anyway...you really had to scoot to meet all 7.  :D

Damn! I'm curious now, although I probably wouldn't be able to get more than 2 pops going to meet 5 girls in 2 hours although its worth a try. By the way if you wouldn't mind asking, how many pops did you get at the recent one?

vt

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Damn! I'm curious now, although I probably wouldn't be able to get more than 2 pops going to meet 5 girls in 2 hours although its worth a try. By the way if you wouldn't mind asking, how many pops did you get at the recent one?

These days rarely more than one good pop...sometimes two...but you can still have fun without popping!  ;)

SouthLon28

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Yes, I've done a couple of good ones this month. Em is back overseeing things and it shows. Nothing like having someone with the power to hire and fire keeping an eye on quality!  ;)

I'm still very picky about the line-ups as there's still a number of girls that have lost their zest or just don't appeal to me in the gallery. You can party with MILFs for £60 (admittedly at higher ratios) elsewhere, so I don't really want to pay premium rates to party with anything other than enthusiastic girls in their prime. Get a good bunch on the  line-up and you can't beat it.  :thumbsup:

Also, bear in mind that there's rarely more than 5 girls at each party, always seems to be one that can't make it, but the 2:1 ratio is never exceeded.

What milf parties are these then? I would be interested in going.

Offline Steely Dan


Mike Oxhard

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Sorry but I disagree, Ems USP is that she guarantees a 2:1 ratio and every time I've been that's been the case or better. If she has 3 punters booked for a party she has every right to reduce the numbers IMO.

I agree that in order to make it financially viable she probably has to reduce numbers if only a couple of guys book, but the website still says a guaranteed 6 girls. The sensible thing to do is change the website wording to something like "Up to 6 girls partying but never more than a 2:1 ratio", that way clients can't have any gripe over parties with less than 6 girls as it wouldn't be promised on the website!!

I know it sounds petty, but it would be better to be up front rather than risk having an awesome reputation that's been built over years of great honest service possibly tainted by making undeliverable promises. Emma has dedicated a vast chunk of her life to this business, and London is definitely a better and more fun place when it has a thriving and successful TPC!!

ClitTeaser

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+1 on that Mike.

 Really looking forward to my next party but I too need to pace myself more.  Think I'll try the 15 mins on then rest technique.  Sadly a viagra hard-on outlives its usefulness. :-)

Offline dobob

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My question, given my long absence, is are the parties now made up (mostly or totally) of MILFs who just want a good time - i.e are not paid, or maybe are paid, but are not real "pros"?
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That sounds like a party I might enjoy! Are any party providers offering it as a selling point?

Offline Steely Dan

That sounds like a party I might enjoy! Are any party providers offering it as a selling point?
Offering what 'it'?  Do you mean they promise non paid-for girls who will fuck everyone for free as if they are paid for escorts?  Or escorts that act as if they really want to fuck everyone and pretend it is not their job?

If you want non paid for girls, then you want a swingers party.  This site is not about swingers. But if you look on the sex party page, many of the venues that do sex parties also do swingers parties on other days. But even scary-ugly swingers turn down guys all the time. No sure thing.

if you want MILFs and (conventionally) less attractive girls, then in my opinion, the lower price parties may work for you. These are escorts and they will have sex with you unless you are a dirty swine (like in a 1-1 booking). Many like sex or are very convincing actors.  (Just like many hot, slim 22yo escorts are good actors.)

But if you want swingers, who will act just like escorts, umm... no. How can this work?  Think it through - how can a club take your money and PROMISE that a non paid for girl will have sex with you?  They are either swingers or escorts - they just can not be both.

New guy in town.  In pub with his friend. Sees a hot girl.  His friend says 'Lulu.  £100'.  'Oh, a hooker', says new guy.
New guy sees a nice ginger.  His friend says, 'Fiona. £120'. 'What', says newguy, 'another hooker? Aren't there any nice girls in this town?'
His friend says, 'sure there are plenty....but you can't afford them'

So do you want escorts or swingers? You can't have both.

Offline dobob

Steely Dan: Thanks for your useful post. MILF escorts doing a good act at a paid-for party I can believe (and might enjoy - I'm good at suspending my disbelief!). Civvy MILFs doing it for the joy of the thing sounded to good to be true. What kind of age range would you expect for the punters and ladies at the various paid-for parties in London?
« Last Edit: March 01, 2016, 09:42:44 pm by dobob »

ClitTeaser

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Here's the economic perspective.  Interesting

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vt

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Steely Dan: Thanks for your useful post. MILF escorts doing a good act at a paid-for party I can believe (and might enjoy - I'm good at suspending my disbelief!). Civvy MILFs doing it for the joy of the thing sounded to good to be true. What kind of age range would you expect for the punters and ladies at the various paid-for parties in London?

From my research and experience, there are at least 4 broad categories of sex party:

1.Premium paid-sex party, over £100, up to £400: organized with attractive paid-for girls at low (less than 2:1) ratios, guaranteed non-stop action eg  Phoenix Club, Cambridge Parties, Le Jeu. Fuck Club sits at the bottom end of this lot as it has attractive ladies at higher ratios.

2.Basic paid-sex party, less than £100: less attractive paid ladies at higher ratios (3,4,5:1), guaranteed action if you can find space to get in. eg LSAP, Greedy Girls

3.Private Invite-only parties: a new trendy metropolitan scene, invitees are vetted for looks, they don't advertise, just word of mouth. no guarantee of action, but that is the reason many attend. eg Killing Kittens, Torture Garden

4.Traditional Swingers parties: some accept single guys for a small contribution, but the ladies are in control. You aren't guaranteed action...but the younger, buffer and blacker you are will help. The quality of ladies varies enormously, but they tend to be older and unattractive, so you will likely have to 'go ugly' if you want this kind of free action. eg Swingers Clubs all over the land.

Basically you will be paying for the mismatch in age & looks between you and the female. Yes, there are many amateur ladies who do enjoy sex, but they are discriminate. If you're young & attractive, you will catch the younger amateur ladies eyes at an invite-only party or a swingers parties and get some very raw, intense action.

If you're old and ugly, you need to get very lucky or stump up for the first 2 categories above, depending on how much you pay will determine how much young pussy you will get.  :hi:

vt

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What kind of age range would you expect for the punters and ladies at the various paid-for parties in London?

At Phoenix, the ladies are mostly late 20s, but can range from 20 up to 35 and there are a couple that may be a little older than that.

The guys, anything from 18-80, but a lot in the 35-55 bracket.

The cheaper parties tend to have MILFs 35-50+, the guys could be any age again.