Police raids

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I hear that there were a number of raids by the police yesterday across Nottinghamshire & Derbyshire. I'm not aware of every premises that were raided but have heard that Green & Natural (Long Eaton), Diamond Spa (Sandiacre) & Blossoms (Ilkeston) were amongst them. 

[mrbobbit]

Bad, but they ought to have raided those cunts at VIP

[NervousJ]

I would have thought green and natural and Spa would be able to look like legit massage places....

Maybe just a shot across the bow....be interesting to get some more info....

Roger is the man.....

[a_polite_gentleman]

Google foo isnt showing anything.

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Yesterday the following appeared on the Derbyshire Police Website

"A specialist team which seeks to identify and support victims of modern slavery and human trafficking is now on Twitter.
Operation Wilberforce was established in March to find and engage with potential victims, support modern slavery and human trafficking operations and gather information.

Since this time, they have engaged with 54 people, referred eight of them into a specialist scheme for further support and taken part in three operations in Derbyshire and the East Midlands. The team will tweet important information about how the public can help the police identify potential victims as well as details of operations and convictions.

Assistant Chief Constable Chris Haward said: “It’s estimated that there are more than 20,000 victims of modern slavery in the UK at the moment.  This includes victims of domestic servitude, forced labour and sexual exploitation. The work Operation Wilberforce carries out will help us identify potential victims and guide them towards the support services they need."

The fact that yesterday Derbyshire Police launched its Operation Wilberforce Twitter account and Mr.Haward was chairing a meeting of East Midlands Anti-Slavery bodies including regional partners of local authorities, emergency services etc is no coincidence that police targeted massage parlours across the area. 

[RogerBoner]

I would have thought green and natural and Spa would be able to look like legit massage places....

Maybe just a shot across the bow....be interesting to get some more info....

Roger is the man.....

I have just telephoned Green and Natural and the manageress told me that they have not been raided by the police. She texted me this morning about a new girl but I've been busy getting special treatment in Bramcote again. But if I review her it'll flare up again about some punters only getting HR whilst RB gets BJs etc.etc.

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In view of Roger's post I have clarified the information I had.  Blossoms was definitely raided yesterday morning at around 11.00 am.  The other information is not clear and I was told referred to Diamond Spa and two Thai places, one in Beeston, the other in Long Eaton but when and if this took place is not obvious. Probably despite what was said in my opening post not yesterday but this is what I was told originally.     

[mrfishyfoo]

.....But if I review her it'll flare up again about some punters only getting HR whilst RB gets BJs etc.etc.

Fucking annoying isn't it which is why alot of my punts don't get reviewed. 

[Itsnotshy]

Rang Blossoms tonight,twice.No answer.Looks like another safe parlour might be gone.Hope not.
The options for a parlour guy like me are rapidly diminishing,might have to start going for indies with all the inherent risk that involves.Well, I'll just have to man up and take the plunge.Either that or I can just settle for losing the will to live:(
When will the powers that be wake up and realise that a well run parlour is the safest place for working girls and punters.

[Jamesbattersea]

Rang Blossoms tonight,twice.No answer.Looks like another safe parlour might be gone.Hope not.
The options for a parlour guy like me are rapidly diminishing,might have to start going for indies with all the inherent risk that involves.Well, I'll just have to man up and take the plunge.Either that or I can just settle for losing the will to live:(
When will the powers that be wake up and realise that a well run parlour is the safest place for working girls and punters.

I'm not sure that a place with girls that are forced into it is a well run parlor.

[Itsnotshy]

I'm not sure that a place with girls that are forced into it is a well run parlor.

Are you aware of that being the case?
I saw no signs the one time I visited.

[Itsnotshy]

I'm not sure that a place with girls that are forced into it is a well run parlor.

If you know anything more please share.

[Jamesbattersea]

If you know anything more please share.

I know nothing about this case or about this place. But the old bill must have had some intell onvthe place before hand they wouldn't just mount an operation of that size witbout it. I've been to some of these Chinese full service places before were the girl doesn't seem to be very happy in their work and there ars locks on the outsides of doors and an lld chinese woman running the show and they change the girls every week so the punters can't get attached to them and help them escape. These places make me feel unfomfortable and like a bad guy for going there unlike independents that are there cos they want to be for whatever reason.

[RogerBoner]

They change the girls every week so the punters can't get attached to them and help them escape. These places make me feel unfomfortable and like a bad guy for going there unlike independents that are there cos they want to be for whatever reason.

Like myself you are not a Natural Born Punter. We're not supposed to have empathy, or not supposed to admit it.

[scutty brown]

I know nothing about this case or about this place. But the old bill must have had some intell onvthe place before hand they wouldn't just mount an operation of that size witbout it. I've been to some of these Chinese full service places before were the girl doesn't seem to be very happy in their work and there ars locks on the outsides of doors and an lld chinese woman running the show and they change the girls every week so the punters can't get attached to them and help them escape. These places make me feel unfomfortable and like a bad guy for going there unlike independents that are there cos they want to be for whatever reason.

If you have suspicions, do something about it. Without your advice, the authorities are blind. Most successful prosecutions for trafficking are the result of tipoffs. Note that the police now usually prosecute even if the girl declines to give evidence.
Do you have any specific sites that worry you?

[Jamesbattersea]

Thank RB and SB, i'm pleased i'm not ths only one that thinks that way.
I went to a place in Lincoln that i thought about reporting but it closed down whilst i was thinking about it anyway. People on this site liked it but not me maybe i'm just too soft.

[Itsnotshy]

I know nothing about this case or about this place. But the old bill must have had some intell onvthe place before hand they wouldn't just mount an operation of that size witbout it. I've been to some of these Chinese full service places before were the girl doesn't seem to be very happy in their work and there ars locks on the outsides of doors and an lld chinese woman running the show and they change the girls every week so the punters can't get attached to them and help them escape. These places make me feel unfomfortable and like a bad guy for going there unlike independents that are there cos they want to be for whatever reason.

Blossoms was not a Chinese full service place,personally I'd avoid them like the plague.
I saw no locks on the outside of the doors.
The rota seemed very stable,same girls month after month.
The girls working there when I went were all English and not underage.
The parlour had been there for years,something like 20 I believe.Hardly a pop up.
You truly believe that a girl working alone in a flat as an indie is less likely to be coerced,less likely to have a 'boyfriend' behind the scenes????
There are also many other reasons that the police might raid a parlour,other than 'slavery',such as rowdy behaviour,financial irregularities,local complaints,drugs,drink,health and safety,etc,etc.The fact that Blossoms stayed open all night at the weekend could have been a factor.
My point about a well run parlour being the best place for punters and working girls was a general point and not specifically about Blossoms.
You also say 'an operation of that size' as we seem to know sweet fuck all about this operation how do you know the size of it,I've seen nothing on google or twitter as yet.

[Jamesbattersea]

Blossoms was not a Chinese full service place,personally I'd avoid them like the plague.
I saw no locks on the outside of the doors.
The rota seemed very stable,same girls month after month.
The girls working there when I went were all English and not underage.
The parlour had been there for years,something like 20 I believe.Hardly a pop up.
You truly believe that a girl working alone in a flat as an indie is less likely to be coerced,less likely to have a 'boyfriend' behind the scenes????
There are also many other reasons that the police might raid a parlour,other than 'slavery',such as rowdy behaviour,financial irregularities,local complaints,drugs,drink,health and safety,etc,etc.The fact that Blossoms stayed open all night at the weekend could have been a factor.
My point about a well run parlour being the best place for punters and working girls was a general point and not specifically about Blossoms.
You also say 'an operation of that size' as we seem to know sweet fuck all about this operation how do you know the size of it,I've seen nothing on google or twitter as yet.

I'm guessing it was a reasonably sized operation because at the top of this page it mentions 3 or 4 places.
You could well be right about other reasons for raiding a place but if if was operation wilberforce it would be modern slavery . The clue is in the name.

[Itsnotshy]

I'm guessing it was a reasonably sized operation because at the top of this page it mentions 3 or 4 places.
You could well be right about other reasons for raiding a place but if if was operation wilberforce it would be modern slavery . The clue is in the name.

Nothing as yet on their twitter account,and no confirmation from anyone else about those other places,which I've personally never visited.
Time will tell,although I would be most surprised to see any prosecutions under modern slavery.
The definition of 'slavery' does,however,seem very elastic these days.Can't see why the old laws of false imprisonment,kidnap,intimidation with threat of violence,rape etc,etc. couldn't still be applied.
'Slavery' does sound a lot more dramatic though.
Ps I do have empathy,but I like to temper it with a healthy dose of scepticism regarding human nature.

[Itsnotshy]

but I like to temper it with a healthy dose of scepticism regarding human nature.

Cynicism might have been a more appropriate word than scepticism,very clumsy of me,I apologise.

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A notice has been attached to the door of Blossoms closing the premises for three months. Reason given is Prostitution

This will be Under Section 136 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003 if anyone cares to read it which gives police in consultation with the local authority the right to immediately close premises.