(Newbie) AdultWork bookings - does this happen often?

[Damien_lord]

Hi everyone, you could say I'm a bit wet round the ears as regards this as I'd not even heard of Adultwork before I saw that call girls documentary on channel 4. Just want people's opinions, is this sort of thing common, am I doing it wrong? Should I just try and book on the day? Cheers

Tried to make my first booking this week with a lady by the name of Sara from the Maidenhead area (so local enough to me, but not shitting where I eat) and her friend Olivia, listed on her profile as a duo partner.

I messaged Sara on Sunday night asking if they were free, she replied that she was but Olivia wasn't, she didn't work out of Maidenhead. She mentioned that she and Olivia normally work out of Mayfair and that they could do a duo there but the rates were "much higher"

Cue alarm bells. I replied that London wasn't a problem given enough notice as I'd need to sort a cover story, asked what her London rates were, saying the max I could afford was £200 an hour each, which was £30 an hour more than her Berkshire rates.

She replied that they were £250 an hour but she would see if Olivia would drop her prices. Sure enough, she messaged a while later to say this is fine, and would Friday be OK for me, early evening. I said yes in theory, will confirm tomorrow (today)

This lunchtime I go to message her to say I've sorted things my end, and I've received a message from her saying can I meet them in Ascot instead, as they need to plan their week and can't sacrifice a day while I'm still a maybe. I reply to say that I've got a meeting in London to coincide with meeting them so I would struggle to make it for 6pm in Ascot now.

She replies to say they confirm meeting in London, can I send a booking through AW. As I mentioned, I am newbie so I ask if I need to send them one each or just one booking.

Sara replies half an hour later to say Olivia won't do the booking because I have no feedback (naturally, as I only signed up a few days ago) and she doesn't want to give up a whole days work in Bracknell (another new location mentioned!) in case I don't show. She did apologise and helpfully mention that they would both be in Bracknell on Friday if I wanted to rearrange. I replied that I would try my Plan B, two polish girls I'd found near the train station. (I hadn't, I just couldn't be arsed with talking to her any more)

Has anyone else experienced this? Are working girls generally a nightmare to deal with?

[RedKettle]

Are working girls generally a nightmare to deal with?

Yes very often.

Better once you get a few regulars as they try harder to meet you.

I try and only book half an hour with a girl I have not seen before - just to minimise the financial cost if the punt is shit.

If they want AW feedback I am not interested - I do not book via AW, I will phone them and arrange.   I do sometimes use the AW email to get information etc but never the booking system.  However others do, personal preference.  I prefer as few as possible to be able to link me with AW ID.

Loads of stuff on here about security, protocols etc - have a read.

I hope you enjoy your first booking - but if any girl is pissing you about just forget them and move on. 

[Ramsbottom-the-snake]

Basically that is something you will need to get used to Damien. Very rarely does a punt run smoothly particularly if you chop and change and see different girls on a regular basis. If you choose to see a girl on a regular basis then you generally tend to find that they start to work with you because they want your repeat business.

Red Kettle is quite strict that he will not entertain girls who insist that a booking is arranged through AW, I have some reasonable feedback from girls on that site and I find this useful sometimes just personal preference.

You will get used to being messed about right up to the final minutes before you see them but you will get used to that and deal with it in your own way. 

But don't let them piss you about because as Red Kettle says there are so many good girls on AW that would like your business.   Good luck.   

[ClarkeOfTheCourse]

At first I had some girls reject a booking due to no/low feedback. Kind of a catch 22 situation really. You'll generally find EE girls are a bit less fussy so maybe do go ahead with your plan B

[stevedave]

To be honest, when I first returned to AW after a long hiatus and a change in user name, I booked a 15 minute quickie with a cheap, local, older WG just to get a positive feedback. It was born more out of convenience than anything else, but led on to better meetings with girls I knew would want to see some positive feedback.

[Mansell]

Trying to book a Duo with no feedback is always going to be a problem as has already been said you need to get some feedback first. So why not just the WG that is available ? Or try another one that is in the area you are going to be. Don't forget to put her adultwork name into the search engine on here and make sure she's got some feedback so you know it's going to have a good chance of being a good punt. You can search for local escorts on AW using a postcode search and then specify the distance.

The other thing is that whilst 15 mins just to see if they are any good seems like a good idea, sometimes the WG's will go for a longer booking if they can get one. Only doing 15 mins at short notice.

[Silver Birch]

You'll generally find EE girls are a bit less fussy so maybe do go ahead with your plan B

He didn't actually have one!

As a rule, I have found WGs do not like anything vague - date; time; length; location = booked.

The zero feedback thing is difficult if you choose a wg that insists on it, but there are plenty that don't, so quite easy to gain a few quite quickly.

The alarm bells would have sounded in my head as soon as she mentioned higher London rates, and I would have moved on at that point. Once she started messing around changing locations as well, she is really sounding like hard work, I'd give up on both of them.

[johnnyboy61]

I tend to put an AW booking in with a new girl after arranging a meet on the phone as it shows them you are less likely to mess them around. Also they know that if they cancel that you can say so publicly in the feedback. You should also report on here, but as she doesn't know that you are a UKP member this is no incentive for her to honour the arrangements, but it ensures that fellow punters know that she is unreliable. I think some WG get a lot of timewasters and if you are new an AW booking shows a greater commitment than a phone call or text alone.

[Malvolio]

Easiest thing is to find a profile with a phone number and speak to the WG.  Make sure you specify how long you want to book, what you want to do and agree the price.  You ought to be able to arrange a punt within 24 hours.

[Damien_lord]

Thanks for the feedback everyone, will adjust my expectations  and change my approach. One good thing is this has opened up the world of opportunity in London, it was pretty slim picking near to home and you can be pretty much anonymous on the city streets so I think I will try and find an alternative for Friday.

Another thing I learnt yesterday was about the feedback system - I noticed, much too late, that Sara had been given a negative for cancelling an appointment at 4am on the day - this was of course disputed, the defence being the customer was a time waster. How ironic.

[regular_guy]

I'm sure the girls do get a lot of time-wasters therefore are naturally cautious,  its true to say it's always better to call them and have a chat and if something doesn't feel right then go with your gut reaction and don't go there,  there will always be others.
I sometimes have a chat with them when i'm getting dressed again and the stories they come out with about people not turning up,  dodgy text messages and the like is beyond belief.

I do find the AW feedback system useful as we can see their feedback and ours is quite important so they know we are less likely to mess them around.

Hope it goes well for you and you will find one of the many women there that are very genuine.

[Turtle1]

Make sure youre not using your day to day phone...buy a cheap PAYG sim and phone and use that. Prossies are sly and their pimps are worse. Last thing you need is to get blackmailed

[Damien_lord]

The Walter White second cell phone is a good idea, as was the suggestion to search by user name.

Turns out there was a neg review on here for her old name

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=52897.msg766465;topicseen#msg766465

And speaking of name changes, her duo partner xxxoliviarosexxx did appear to have lots of good feedback, but a careful read of the history revealed that she only had 2 positives in the past 2 years, both from the same user. Prior to that she appeared to be known as Belle and then Tiff.

Do girls change their names like hair colour in this industry or is there a black market out there in Adultwork profiles with good feedback that are then transferred to a new girl?

A lot of due diligence is required for this hobby!

[NottsNylonLuvr]

Also, make sure (you will anyway) that you go ahead with your first B&S (Bait and Switch) no matter how horrendous the switcheroo is.

It will be a sobering experience & you'll walk (left my wallet in the car etc) on every other B&S you encounter.

[Damien_lord]

The plot thickens, got a message from Olivia about a week after I'd sent her an angry message saying thanks for wasting my time and left her similar feedback. Said she had no knowledge of the booking or the supposed negotiations on rate, etc or switching the location back to Ascot at the last minute as she always worked out of London. I mentioned that the immediate offer of a replacement girl from Sara immediately after she messaged to say Olivia had cancelled seemed a bit suspect and she didn't disagree.

Oh and I didn't manage to sort a plan B either, so a wasted trip. 

[ClarkeOfTheCourse]

Good to see Libby / Sara / whatever name she decides to use next week has found a more realistic price level

[MagpieJohn]

Hi Damien
You've probably had myriad replies by now but if not then it's probably worth knowing that a lot of working girls on adultwork say they won't see punters with zero or negative feedback. This is obviously for their own safety and security, however, it does make life difficult when you're new and haven't yet had the opportunity to build up any feedback.

[Marmite]

Sometimes a well crafted email and the offer of a telephone conservation can overcome initial problems regarding lack of feedback.  It does no harm to ask and everybody has to start somewhere.

[NIK]

You don't seem very inexperienced if you're wanting to plunge straight in with a two girl appointment. Also sending them angry messages doesn't seem the mark of a newbie.
Or maybe it does?
My advice on this would be no matter what don't send them angry messages as this can only lead to further problems, especially with crackpots. 
Just put any disappointments down to experience and move on.

As for being pissed around on AW in my experience it's par for the course. That is why I can't stand the site.

[OakTree]

I have a simple rule, if they don't show a phone no I don't bother with them. In my experience most of the fucking about is through non direct comms, email.
I ring them up and a typical request would be, "Hi my name is ***** I got your no through AW And I was wondering if you may be available for an hour in-call tomorrow at mid-day"?
It's a simple yay or nay question. Occasionally they may request you put a booking through as well on AW but generally I find they don't. If I feel I could do with some new feedback, I will arrange with the girl after the main event to put in a false booking so we can leave feedback for each other.
That's the way I generally go about it and I rarely get fucked about, not saying never but on the whole that works for me.

[od13218]

I have a simple rule, if they don't show a phone no I don't bother with them. In my experience most of the fucking about is through non direct comms, email.
I ring them up and a typical request would be, "Hi my name is ***** I got your no through AW And I was wondering if you may be available for an hour in-call tomorrow at mid-day"?
It's a simple yay or nay question. Occasionally they may request you put a booking through as well on AW but generally I find they don't. If I feel I could do with some new feedback, I will arrange with the girl after the main event to put in a false booking so we can leave feedback for each other.
That's the way I generally go about it and I rarely get fucked about, not saying never but on the whole that works for me.

+1
If there's no phone number I don't bother- I like to get a feel for attitude etc over the phone. Also I tend to have to arrange at short notice in which case email is too slow.
Doug

[Damien_lord]

You don't seem very inexperienced if you're wanting to plunge straight in with a two girl appointment. Also sending them angry messages doesn't seem the mark of a newbie.
Or maybe it does?
My advice on this would be no matter what don't send them angry messages as this can only lead to further problems, especially with crackpots. 
Just put any disappointments down to experience and move on.

As for being pissed around on AW in my experience it's par for the course. That is why I can't stand the site.

Yeah the angry message in the heat of the moment wasn't such a great plan, I got a thinly veiled threatening message saying that leaving "nonsense feedback" wasn't good for me and that she was going to report me to AW so they could read our emails and remove it. One month on, the feedback is still there so either she didn't follow through or AW believed my side of the story, I suspect the former.
Chalked it up to experience and have managed to arranged a duo through an agency for next week.