Double Standards

[BJvirgin]

maybe it's to do with HIV status. I was told not to do African girls as they were high risk

[Dani]

I think a lot of it is to do with rumours.  They have heard a friend of a friend of a friend had a bad experience with one type of punter and out of fear they use the 'I' have had a bad experience.  Rather than risk it happening.
However again I am sure most have had more bad experiences with White men but you never see no white clients (they would be skint if they did).
Some people are not used to or just feel uncomfortable around other races.  Where I grew up it was all white with only a few people moving into the area in my late teens who were of a different colour.  I went to an all white girls school.  When I moved up here I was quite uncomfortable around other races mainly due to ignorance on my part as I had no experience of other races I believed fully in what the media portrayed.  However I soon learned that skin colour makes no difference at all as it is all about individual attitudes.  Hell I have more problems with white 18-20 year olds who think they are black American Gangstas than I have with anyone else.

There are also some people who don't want to have sex with people from different races for whatever reason and in this job you cant really force someone to have sex with someone they don't want to do it with. 

I no longer see deaf people who cannot lip read or speak BSL.  Its basically a blanket ban due to a very bad experience and as I cannot communicate with them I wont see them full stop as too many problems can arise.  He happened to be Black from Sierra Leone but I didn't put the attack down to him being black more him not being able to communicate with me and getting angrier and angrier over that.

At the end of the day as long as someone has put it on their profile they don't see this or that then be grateful as some don't put it on theirs and will happily let you get to the door and then turn you away which wastes your time.

I do agree it could be worded much better and just say it is my preference to only meet with xxx gentlemen.  Rather than say it is because of a bad experience as that makes it sound like they think every person of that race or age or whatever is likely to attack or rob them.  There is ways to words things that will cause the least offense

[cockneybstrd]

Here is something I have pondered on after reading this thread.

Do some punters look for pro$$ie's who dont see Black or Asian punters as they see this as a positive ??

[sucky2dollar]

I no longer see deaf people who cannot lip read or speak BSL. 

I can see how your client would get upset and fustrated if every time he said 'suck my cock' you offered him a can of coke.

[Boundless]

I think a lot of it is to do with rumours.  They have heard a friend of a friend of a friend had a bad experience with one type of punter and out of fear they use the 'I' have had a bad experience.  Rather than risk it happening.
However again I am sure most have had more bad experiences with White men but you never see no white clients (they would be skint if they did).
Some people are not used to or just feel uncomfortable around other races.  Where I grew up it was all white with only a few people moving into the area in my late teens who were of a different colour.  I went to an all white girls school.  When I moved up here I was quite uncomfortable around other races mainly due to ignorance on my part as I had no experience of other races I believed fully in what the media portrayed.  However I soon learned that skin colour makes no difference at all as it is all about individual attitudes.  Hell I have more problems with white 18-20 year olds who think they are black American Gangstas than I have with anyone else.

There are also some people who don't want to have sex with people from different races for whatever reason and in this job you cant really force someone to have sex with someone they don't want to do it with. 

I no longer see deaf people who cannot lip read or speak BSL.  Its basically a blanket ban due to a very bad experience and as I cannot communicate with them I wont see them full stop as too many problems can arise.  He happened to be Black from Sierra Leone but I didn't put the attack down to him being black more him not being able to communicate with me and getting angrier and angrier over that.

At the end of the day as long as someone has put it on their profile they don't see this or that then be grateful as some don't put it on theirs and will happily let you get to the door and then turn you away which wastes your time.

I do agree it could be worded much better and just say it is my preference to only meet with xxx gentlemen.  Rather than say it is because of a bad experience as that makes it sound like they think every person of that race or age or whatever is likely to attack or rob them.  There is ways to words things that will cause the least offense

That's got me thinking Dani.
I'd never considered that there may be deaf punters, what about blind punters? I suppose there's no reason why not, have you or any WG's you know had experience of blind clients?

[nuts4you]

David blunkett,s blind,he,d fuck anything !! 

[The High Sparrow]

I think a lot of it is to do with rumours.  They have heard a friend of a friend of a friend had a bad experience with one type of punter and out of fear they use the 'I' have had a bad experience.  Rather than risk it happening.
........

I do agree it could be worded much better and just say it is my preference to only meet with xxx gentlemen.  Rather than say it is because of a bad experience as that makes it sound like they think every person of that race or age or whatever is likely to attack or rob them.  There is ways to words things that will cause the least offense

+1
I think some may be uncomfortable with people of colour so rather than say that and be accused of being racist they relate it to "bad experiences" that they may or may not have had because that sounds more palatable

[akauya]

Here is something I have pondered on after reading this thread.

Do some punters look for pro$$ie's who dont see Black or Asian punters as they see this as a positive ??

Hmm good question. I would guess HillindonPete and his offspring Helmsdale see it as that.

[Dani]

That's got me thinking Dani.
I'd never considered that there may be deaf punters, what about blind punters? I suppose there's no reason why not, have you or any WG's you know had experience of blind clients?

I have one visually impaired client (I'm on TLCtrust so hv quite a few impaired clients) who could probably describe me better than most seeing people
However as they can speak and hear there are no issues with communication so there are no problems. With deaf people who don't lip read and did not grow up in the UKP so don't know BSL there is no way to explain that you don't offer certain things and it's not just because they are deaf you don't offer them to anyone. If you can't communicate that then they assume it's because of them you are shaking your head no and they get pissed off

[The_Don]

It's because some simple minded idiots confuse nationality with race.

As for your second point; I agree with so many Romanian girls looking incredibly fit.

 

Keep seeing some street walker in Tottehman (White hart lane), some look nice but one looks like she go 10 rounds with Tyson   

[richie]

I tried it once but now I won't punt black or Pakistani girls. It's not a racist thing as I'd have no problems socialising or working with them, I simply don't find them attractive sexually.

So the way I see it is that if I'm allowed to express personal preference over the origin of the hole I'm sticking my dick in to then a WG is equally entitled to choose the type of dicks she's happy to be stuck with.

As a side point I've seen a couple of Asian (Indian) profiles around the coventry area that clearly state they won't see Asian customers, never seen a white WG refusing a white customer though.

[Rickrabbit]

Here is something I have pondered on after reading this thread.

Do some punters look for pro$$ie's who dont see Black or Asian punters as they see this as a positive ??

It works for me on the opposite way. If I see that a pro$$ie says she does not see black men for the usual cliche reason, I judge that she will not have an open attitude in the service she will deliver and is more likely to take liberties when it comes to the actual service delivered compared to the profile. Of course that assumes pro$$ies write their own profile. Sometimes I think the no black men policy comes from management as they will need to deal with a disgruntled punter. In any case of it is management writing policy then the pro$$ie is not truly an independent and I prefer independent pro$$ies in mind as well as business practice.

[smiths]

It works for me on the opposite way. If I see that a pro$$ie says she does not see black men for the usual cliche reason, I judge that she will not have an open attitude in the service she will deliver and is more likely to take liberties when it comes to the actual service delivered compared to the profile. Of course that assumes pro$$ies write their own profile. Sometimes I think the no black men policy comes from management as they will need to deal with a disgruntled punter. In any case of it is management writing policy then the pro$$ie is not truly an independent and I prefer independent pro$$ies in mind as well as business practice.

How do you know as fact ANY WG is really Independent, i have no way of knowing myself.

[Jimmyredcab]

I tried it once but now I won't punt black or Pakistani girls. It's not a racist thing as I'd have no problems socialising or working with them, I simply don't find them attractive sexually.

In over 30 years of punting I have never booked a black girl and I never would --------- nothing to do with skin colour because I find Indian girls very attractive.   

[Rickrabbit]

How do you know as fact ANY WG is really Independent, i have no way of knowing myself.

When it comes to pro$$ies...to quote Fats Waller "one never knows, do one?" . But an open pro$$ie with an independent mind is less likely to go along with illogical points of view and truly work from personal experience and attitudes I think, especially if she has been around for some while and managed to create some financial ability to arrange her own accommodation etc., with regular visits back home, but one never truly knows, except for the attitude clue and speaking with them over time.

[Tailpipe]

In over 30 years of punting I have never booked a black girl and I never would --------- nothing to do with skin colour because I find Indian girls very attractive.   

I like them as well but finding a good one has never been easy any about that you still no of Jim.

[Rickrabbit]

In over 30 years of punting I have never booked a black girl and I never would --------- nothing to do with skin colour because I find Indian girls very attractive.   

JRC, my deductive powers figured that you would never have been or never would go with a black girl. I never have or am likely to either...they always charge above my pay grade. I guess because black pro$$ies like black punters I suspect are a rarity   

[Jimmyredcab]

I like them as well but finding a good one has never been easy any about that you still no of Jim.

I have not been with an Indian girl for many years, you are correct they are very hard to find.   

[akauya]

In over 30 years of punting I have never booked a black girl and I never would --------- nothing to do with skin colour because I find Indian girls very attractive.   

There we go again.... 

"In over 30years of punting.... look at me - I've been punting for 30 years. No, actually it's over 30years, you hear that? 30 years +. In case you haven't noticed I've been paying for sex for over 30 years. Yes that's right... 30 years plus. That's 20+10 plus a bit more = over 30 years punting. I fucked lots of prostitutes in that time, look at me, look at me, I've been punting for over 30 years. 30+ years I tell you  30+. Next year it will be 31 years plus, and the year after that it will be 32 plus years of punting. Get that? -------------------------------------------  Over 30 years of punting"

[Sienna_Bronze]

Personally I think the no blacks/Asians rule is ridiculous. You're being paid to fuck guys not to find them attractive.

[Jimmyredcab]

Personally I think the no blacks/Asians rule is ridiculous. You're being paid to fuck guys not to find them attractive.

Yes, but you are not white ------------------- maybe you see things in a different light.   

Girls are fully entitled to refuse service to anyone, black, chinese, asian -------------- or even taxi drivers.   

[James999]

Personally I think the no blacks/Asians rule is ridiculous. You're being paid to fuck guys not to find them attractive.

About as ridiculous as you not seeing women 

[Matium]

Personally I think the no blacks/Asians rule is ridiculous.

No it isn't.

Every woman must, at all times, be free to choose the men she wishes to see.

Forcing a woman to see a man whom she has no wish to see is known as rape.

[Sienna_Bronze]

I personally don't find black, Asian or Chinese men attractive but I still welcome their business and give them the same level of service. I also think sexuality and not finding a person of a different ethnicity attractive are completely different things.

[The High Sparrow]

Personally I think the no blacks/Asians rule is ridiculous. You're being paid to fuck guys not to find them attractive.

Personally i think it is ridiculous as well. But because of the nature of this Game they have a right to be be ridiculous 

[Tailpipe]

I personally don't find black, Asian or Chinese men attractive but I still welcome their business and give them the same level of service. I also think sexuality and not finding a person of a different ethnicity attractive are completely different things.

Such emotional detachment in someone so young , I not sure if this is a good mind set.

Offering the same service level to all is not easy even in civvies Street .

I am guessing GFE is not really your thing . Red bit not 100% sure what you mean please explain I am but a simple man.

 

[punk]

I personally don't find black, Asian or Chinese men attractive but I still welcome their business and give them the same level of service. I also think sexuality and not finding a person of a different ethnicity attractive are completely different things.

if your a black chick? i've have heard that before. But business is business and if the money is good, why not.

[Boundless]

Personally I think the no blacks/Asians rule is ridiculous. You're being paid to fuck guys not to find them attractive.

Well said Sienna, it appears that not all SP's share your sentiments though.

[Boundless]

Such emotional detachment in someone so young , I not sure if this is a good mind set.

Offering the same service level to all is not easy even in civvies Street .

I am guessing GFE is not really your thing . Red bit not 100% sure what you mean please explain I am but a simple man.

Well, at the risk of being accused of touting, fluffiness or white knightism, I personally didn't find anything wrong with Sienna's GFE.

[punk]

Well, at the risk of being accused of touting, fluffiness or white knightism, I personally didn't find anything wrong with Sienna's GFE.

is she black,white or asian?

[Sienna_Bronze]

I'm mixed race and only a quarter black. The comment about sexuality was in response to a comment about me not seeing women. I can't see how you can even begin to compare the two.

[punk]

I'm mixed race and only a quarter black. The comment about sexuality was in response to a comment about me not seeing women. I can't see how you can even begin to compare the two.

hmm what an interesting combo. Surely you would have to be bi-sexual, so thats a bit of a red herring .

[Boundless]

is she black,white or asian?

Well, Sienna would be a better person to answer, but I would say mixed race, in my opinion.

[punk]

Well, Sienna would be a better person to answer, but I would say mixed race, in my opinion.

turns out 1/4 black. so not strictly mixed race i.e 50-50 etc.

[Tailpipe]

I'm mixed race and only a quarter black. The comment about sexuality was in response to a comment about me not seeing women. I can't see how you can even begin to compare the two.

I may have lost the plot there sorry  TP often does

[punk]

unless of course, there is more than one racial mix?

[CatBBW]

turns out 1/4 black. so not strictly mixed race i.e 50-50 etc.

That's still classed as mixed race. It makes me wonder when people stop being classed as mixed race, how many generations have to pass before you can be classed as White, or Black etc?

[Sienna_Bronze]

Yeah I have two other racial mixes. And I have to put down my kids as mixed other even though they have white skin and European hair/features. I don't like pigeon holing people into boxes but all the equal opportunities forms are everywhere!

[smiths]

That's still classed as mixed race. It makes me wonder when people stop being classed as mixed race, how many generations have to pass before you can be classed as White, or Black etc?

Indeed, we have though progressed from half caste which was used in the 70s in my observations to mixed race. I wont post the other very common words used in the 70s as we have progressed from them as well, at least some of us have.

[CatBBW]

Yeah I have two other racial mixes. And I have to put down my kids as mixed other even though they have white skin and European hair/features. I don't like pigeon holing people into boxes but all the equal opportunities forms are everywhere!

Yes, see this is what I don't understand about the mixes. Will THEIR children be classed as mixed? Or their grandchildren?

[Sienna_Bronze]

Interesting question, I don't know. I suppose if you subscribe to the "one drop theory" then anyone with an ancestor who is not Caucasian would be mixed race.

[James999]

Is SAFFE down and the pro$$ies decide to have their chat on here instead?

[punk]

Interesting question, I don't know. I suppose if you subscribe to the "one drop theory" then anyone with an ancestor who is not Caucasian would be mixed race.

thats where the nazis got the idea behind who was a jew or not a jew, one drop theory is a red herring.

[CatBBW]

Interesting question, I don't know. I suppose if you subscribe to the "one drop theory" then anyone with an ancestor who is not Caucasian would be mixed race.

Yeah, exactly my point.

[anyfucker]

Interesting question, I don't know. I suppose if you subscribe to the "one drop theory" then anyone with an ancestor who is not Caucasian would be mixed race.

go back far enough and that would be all of us.

[blackpunter]

Yes, but you are not white ------------------- maybe you see things in a different light.   

Girls are fully entitled to refuse service to anyone, black, chinese, asian -------------- or even taxi drivers.   

I suppose its like the rule you find at pubs and restaurants that says, "we reserve the right of admission."

[Flunt]

I suppose its like the rule you find at pubs and restaurants that says, "we reserve the right of admission."

Think of it as a positive, at least you know you're not welcome by the pro$$ie and can see someone else. I often turn up and wish she had a comment on her profile which said, "No old fat blokes!" But as others have said, we are the punting majority?

[Boundless]

Think of it as a positive, at least you know you're not welcome by the pro$$ie and can see someone else. I often turn up and wish she had a comment on her profile which said, "No old fat blokes!" But as others have said, we are the punting majority?

As I've said before on here, it used to concern me, but now I realise that OFB's are probably the majority.
I'm sure that SP's don't expect George Clooney to turn up, if they do they must be disappointed a lot of the time.

I just concentrate on what is important to SP's, give clear and concise comms, be clean, polite, on time and don't hang around afterwards.

[Dante]

As a non-white punter, I do find it mildly annoying when one of the rare few I find attractive says they will only see white guys, but I can be philosophical about it. There shouldn't be any compulsion in this hobby, and the last thing I want to be involved in is a situation where someone doesn't actually find me attractive at all, but is just doing it for the money.

Besides, I have a whole long list of criteria of my own in what I find attractive, so I can hardly talk.

[nova painted floozie]

As a non-white punter, I do find it mildly annoying when one of the rare few I find attractive says they will only see white guys, but I can be philosophical about it. There shouldn't be any compulsion in this hobby, and the last thing I want to be involved in is a situation where someone doesn't actually find me attractive at all, but is just doing it for the money.

Besides, I have a whole long list of criteria of my own in what I find attractive, so I can hardly talk.

That would be 99% of WGs then (at a guess).
Do you think WGs have sex with clients mainly because we find them attractive or mainly for the £££?
For me it is preferable not to find them attractive as this is my job and any fluffy bunny feelings towards clients signals that 'this way madness lies.'