Viagra trial - please help.

[jbourne1986]

Hi guys.
I am 33. I've lately noticed I can only cum once in an hour punt. 5 years ago I used to sometimes be able to cum 3 times in an hour. I don't smoke and I am not overweight. The problem is recovery time. Now it can take me as long as 45 minutes to recover. Even when it does erections aren't reliable to complete sex. I have absolutely no problems with erection the first time around.

So my plan was to take 25mg of Viagra half hour before the punt. Will this help. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Jb

[Jimmyredcab]

Not sure anyone can give you an accurate answer, everyone is different. I thought Viagra was used to get an erection not multiple erections, 25mg is a very small dose, I use 100mg but then I am an old bastard.   

[AnthG]

I don't think Viagra will help you with this.

As an off the wall idea. Book the girl for 30 mins at say 1pm. Book her for another 30 mins at 3pm. Problem solved.

[Ipunter]

I don't think Viagra will help you with this.

As an off the wall idea. Book the girl for 30 mins at say 1pm. Book her for another 30 mins at 3pm. Problem solved.

Talk about thinking outside the box!

[galcom666]

It's called age!

When I was 28 I could do 3 times an hour. Older once every hour is about my limit. Plus there is anecdotal evidence it can delay as well.

[Corus Boy]

The more you think/worry about it, the more it will come true.

So pick a girl who will distract you with a nice massage after Round 1, relax and let her work her magic, don't try to force it along or your body will let you down.

[yorkshire123]

I'm a one spurter & use ED treatment as sometimes I struggle to stay hard during penetrative sex (but never with oral  ) so yes it would/could get you hard again but not help you to cum a second time, In fact it could have the opposite effect by delaying your first pop?
 

[Sir Lance-a-lot]

Viagra can help you get an erection, get a harder erection, keep an erection, and get a second erection sooner.

However, it only helps erection, not ejaculation.  If anything, it interferes with ejaculation by decreasing sensitivity.  So it depends on what sort of "recovery" you need, you might be able to get it up again but not "pop" again.

[Curious6705]

I don't think anyone - even a medic - can give you a definitive answer. I say not even a medic because AIUI the effects of viagra may be felt differently by different people.

I would suggest experimenting with it on your own, before maybe using it to help you enjoy a punt.

[jbourne1986]

Thanks guys. On the balance of what you've said it looks like the 50 quid on Viagra seems like a bit of a waste. Might keep hold of them just incase. Merry Christmas and happy punting

[yorkshire123]

Thanks guys. On the balance of what you've said it looks like the 50 quid on Viagra seems like a bit of a waste. Might keep hold of them just incase. Merry Christmas and happy punting

£50? what are they, gold plated 

[AnthG]

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[galcom666]

Thanks guys. On the balance of what you've said it looks like the 50 quid on Viagra seems like a bit of a waste. Might keep hold of them just incase. Merry Christmas and happy punting

£50? V and generic kind are about 75p each!

[FredW]

£50? V and generic kind are about 75p each!

£40 for 8 x 50g Viagra from Lloyds Chemist on-line.

Sildenafil slightly cheaper.

Do others find one 50g enough, or do some find that 100g works better?

FW

[jbourne1986]

i got 12 * 25mg viagra for 40 odd pounds and withe delivery etc it came close to 50 pounds.

[galcom666]

£40 for 8 x 50g Viagra from Lloyds Chemist on-line.

Sildenafil slightly cheaper.

Do others find one 50g enough, or do some find that 100g works better?

FW

No you buy the 100mg ones and cut them. The Silds have a deep + shaped indentation which facilitates cutting them into 25mg or 50mg pills

[jbourne1986]

also i heard that viagra makes you cum loads (as in quantitiy of spunk).

has anyone had this experience?

[Frenchie]

ASDA pharmacy last week in Southampton ..8 generic 100ml tablets   £18  !!!

I don't suffer any side effects except for slight flushing of the face which wears off .

Incidentally , --I now take half a tablet 45 minutes before the punt and the other half 15 minutes before ... seems to work really well !

The OP should just experiment !..... I keep meaning to experiment to see if an old git like me can pop twice during a punt .. but I usually book 45 minutes with my regular... so I might be a bit optimistic !

[pianodave]

V will get me hard again straight away, but the second pop can take forever and be unsatisfying. Much better for me to have 30 and even 15 minute bookings, and i have done the twice in a day thing too

It wasn't so a few years ago, but with age it takes longer for me to pop. An hour was my standard a few years back, but now it is often frustrating having to work for the second go. 30 minutes is idea, and i have a regular for 15 minutes which is a cheap, no messing around quickie

[Quesadilla]

Sounds like your problem is not necessarily erectile dysfunction if you never have a problem getting it up the first time, only after your first pop.  Viagra and it's ilk can help with erection recovery and shouldn't do any harm if you don't have ED - but you might start to become dependent on it psychologically at least. 

It certainly won't help with ejaculation.  Personally I prefer to get hard, stay hard, and recover quickly enough to get hard again so I can have a 2 or even 3 hour marathon session.  Really doesn't bother me how many times I cum. 

If it's not clear you have ED though you really should go to your GP and get some tests done. May be your testosterone levels are down or there's some other physiological cause.  Seems unlikely to be psychological if you are getting it up fine to start with - but what do we know we're just a bunch of punters - go talk to your doctor! 

[LL]

If I take Viagra then I can often get hard again almost immediately my first pop. However, fucking at that point feels unpleasant usually and I certainly won't be able to cum. So from my experience Viagra will not help your recovery time.

[Steely Dan]

Take it a bit early if you can.  It can take a full 60 min to work.  But it really wont wear off in 2 hours: better 90 min before than 30 min before if you can plan like that. Pharmacokinetics (the speed with which drugs enter and leave your system) don't vary as much as people think.  The main driver is other stuff in your stomach and body weight.

[galcom666]

45 mins is ok if you have a completely empty stomach.

Fatty food will cancel it out.

Big meals will also delay its effects.

[FredW]

45 mins is ok if you have a completely empty stomach.

Fatty food will cancel it out.

Big meals will also delay its effects.

I have wondered how much of an affect a curry before hand has. Certainly booze isn't a good idea!

FW

[Curious6705]

Take it a bit early if you can.  It can take a full 60 min to work.  But it really wont wear off in 2 hours: better 90 min before than 30 min before if you can plan like that. Pharmacokinetics (the speed with which drugs enter and leave your system) don't vary as much as people think.  The main driver is other stuff in your stomach and body weight.

Whether it's STIs or ED, it amazes me the instant experts who come out of the woodwork when subjects like these are discussed.

Medical professionals whose advice is sought face to face, or one's own experience, are the only expertise worth anything - and I would urge those concerned about these issues to ignore advice from anyone who claims to be able to offer a definitive opinion online.

[Quesadilla]

Whether it's STIs or ED, it amazes me the instant experts who come out of the woodwork when subjects like these are discussed.

Medical professionals whose advice is sought face to face, or one's own experience, are the only expertise worth anything - and I would urge those concerned about these issues to ignore advice from anyone who claims to be able to offer a definitive opinion online.

+1 - especially in this instance where it actually seems unlikely the OP actually has ED!  Go see your GP like I said earlier! Could be something completely different and if so better to catch it earlier rather than later, trust me on that!

[akauya]

Whether it's STIs or ED, it amazes me the instant experts who come out of the woodwork when subjects like these are discussed.

Medical professionals whose advice is sought face to face, or one's own experience, are the only expertise worth anything - and I would urge those concerned about these issues to ignore advice from anyone who claims to be able to offer a definitive opinion online.

Excellent post! 

[LL]

Whether it's STIs or ED, it amazes me the instant experts who come out of the woodwork when subjects like these are discussed.

Medical professionals whose advice is sought face to face, or one's own experience, are the only expertise worth anything - and I would urge those concerned about these issues to ignore advice from anyone who claims to be able to offer a definitive opinion online.

"Hello, doctor?
Yes I'm having trouble cumming twice during a 1 hour punt? Do I have trouble getting it up the first time? No doctor. I'm in my thirties, that's right. *click duuuuuuh*. Hello, doctor? Doctor? DOCTOR?!"
 

[Curious6705]

"Hello, doctor?
Yes I'm having trouble cumming twice during a 1 hour punt? Do I have trouble getting it up the first time? No doctor. I'm in my thirties, that's right. *click duuuuuuh*. Hello, doctor? Doctor? DOCTOR?!"
 

Right - because throughout your civvie life you're always totally upfront and honest about your punting activities aren't you?

[GreyDave]

 
For my pennyworth of not medical (except watching TV) info:
I `m 55 can do it without but its hurried and bam and out not able to go again for several hours..
with 50mg its exta firm and controlled (ie do loads of positions) a pop after 1/2 hr of shagging up and at it 1/2hr later if popped but no pop for 2hrs plus drinks. my punting is in Soho walk ups so I use the delay effect to dip a few before the pop at 22quid ago its great I think age has a lot to do with my cum production but the V makes the time getting there better I try to avoid useing late at night as wake up with boners every few hours and nowhere to put it -take your time if you are turning in to a 1pop guy make it worth it

[jbourne1986]

viagra trial is on - will let you know how i get on. heres me hoping for  0 side effects

[Quesadilla]

viagra trial is on - will let you know how i get on. heres me hoping for  0 side effects

Good luck! If we don't hear back we'll assume you're one of the 0.01% of men who's cock swells up to the size of a marrow causing them to die of blood loss to the brain! 

[madeinwales56]

Go to the docs. He or she will have heard stories like yours dozens of times before.

[restless_native]

My recommendation based on my personal experience would be cialis rather than viagra. However, I should say that I don't take it due any issues I had. I usually prefer longer bookings of 2 hours and I just found that after taking one of those pills I could fuck like a pornstar and manage at least 3 or 4 good pops.

[LL]

Right - because throughout your civvie life you're always totally upfront and honest about your punting activities aren't you?

You missed my point.  There has to be a medical need for a doctor to prescribe Viagra.  One of the questions they ask is, "can you maintain an erection for satisfactory sexual intercourse".  Remember that the OP asked if Viagra could reduce his recovery time.  Whether or not just the one round is satisfactory is debatable.  Perhaps.  Many people (most?), including myself have never or hardly ever cum twice in the same hour.  Is the doctor going to buy it.  I don't expect so.  He'd laugh his socks off.  In order to get a prescription the OP would have to tell fibs to the doc I reckon.

[Curious6705]

You missed my point.  There has to be a medical need for a doctor to prescribe Viagra.  One of the questions they ask is, "can you maintain an erection for satisfactory sexual intercourse".  Remember that the OP asked if Viagra could reduce his recovery time.  Whether or not just the one round is satisfactory is debatable.  Perhaps.  Many people (most?), including myself have never or hardly ever cum twice in the same hour.  Is the doctor going to buy it.  I don't expect so.  He'd laugh his socks off.  In order to get a prescription the OP would have to tell fibs to the doc I reckon.

 

Right - because throughout your civvie life you're always totally upfront and honest about your punting activities aren't you?

[pdq]

being active and fit does loads to  help

there is also the "off label " usage of perception drugs e.g viagra was a heart medication with interesting side effect that they then went about getting it licensed for use as a treatment for folks with erectile problems - e.g diabetics etc.

so External Link/Members Only is another prescription drug that has "off label" uses - but there is a huge element of risk  - this drug  is associated with compulsive gambling and sex addiction so your not lightly to be able to get hold of it - plus its dangerous to use if you aint clued up as all drugs are

there is a sub culture of society who look for these "off label" uses of stuff available from looking youthful to being more mentally active in order to get better jobs and more cash etc  - google is your friend for information.

as for the drug mentioned in the bbc report! wouldn't touch it with yours but reading about clinical trials made it seem the next best thing - e.g. male multiple orgasms in minutes

[LL]

Right - because throughout your civvie life you're always totally upfront and honest about your punting activities aren't you?

No, but I am with medical professionals. I don't see any point holding back information when I visit a GUM clinic as this way they can advise me of the risks I'm subjecting myself to and give me the correct tests. Same goes for the doctor (well, pharmacist anyway) prescribing Viagra to me. Again, no point in lying where my health is concerned. If I shouldn't be taking it then I want him to tell me that. All medical professionals are sworn to secrecy (patient confidentiality).

Need I remind you of your own reply on the previous page?

Whether it's STIs or ED, it amazes me the instant experts who come out of the woodwork when subjects like these are discussed.

Medical professionals whose advice is sought face to face, or one's own experience, are the only expertise worth anything - and I would urge those concerned about these issues to ignore advice from anyone who claims to be able to offer a definitive opinion online.

So your advice is to only talk to medical professionals about Viagra rather than listen to people offering advice on a forum about it. And yet you think it's OK to lie to the doctor about the circumstances for why people need to have it (please clarify).  A medical professional can't give the correct advice unless presented with all the facts.

[Curious6705]

No, but I am with medical professionals. I don't see any point holding back information when I visit a GUM clinic as this way they can advise me of the risks I'm subjecting myself to and give me the correct tests. Same goes for the doctor (well, pharmacist anyway) prescribing Viagra to me. Again, no point in lying where my health is concerned. If I shouldn't be taking it then I want him to tell me that. All medical professionals are sworn to secrecy (patient confidentiality).

Need I remind you of your own reply on the previous page?

So your advice is to only talk to medical professionals about Viagra rather than listen to people offering advice on a forum about it. And yet you think it's OK to lie to the doctor about the circumstances for why people need to have it (please clarify).  A medical professional can't give the correct advice unless presented with all the facts.

The fact is you're having sex. The context in which you're doing that is another matter and one about which you lie all of the time in your civvie life.

[jbourne1986]

I am still alive. 25mg viagra used, first pop unaffected. got hard again quicker than usual and erection maintained. but couldnt cum and also like some of the members said in the 2nd go the mind felt very disconnected from activity. i apppreciate the advice given.

experiment unsuccessful. gonna stick to natural half hour punts

[LL]

The fact is you're having sex. The context in which you're doing that is another matter and one about which you lie all of the time in your civvie life.

My comment was related to your criticism of members offering the OP advise based on their own experience. That he should instead go to a doctor for advice. And apparently it's OK to feed the doctor a pack of lies in order to get a prescription. If the doctor was aware of the facts then he wouldn't prescribe Viagra to a patient who doesn't even have ED! (But instead wants to cum twice in the same hour - a tricky feat for most of us in our thirties). Doctors do not prescribe drugs for recreation. And without all the facts the advice the doctor gives cannot be a lot more sound than the advice we've already given the OP. Which you criticised us for. So make up your mind.

[Curious6705]

My comment was related to your criticism of members offering the OP advise based on their own experience. That he should instead go to a doctor for advice. And apparently it's OK to feed the doctor a pack of lies in order to get a prescription. If the doctor was aware of the facts then he wouldn't prescribe Viagra to a patient who doesn't even have ED! (But instead wants to cum twice in the same hour - a tricky feat for most of us in our thirties). Doctors do not prescribe drugs for recreation. And without all the facts the advice the doctor gives cannot be a lot more sound than the advice we've already given the OP. Which you criticised us for. So make up your mind.

People lie to their GPs all the time. Of course you would never do such a thing.  Just like you don't lie about your punting in all other aspects of your civvie life. 

[pdq]

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Be interesting to see how this guy is getting some of his stuff. What a coincidence a DM story of "off label"  useage appears the next day

[iceraider]

I was asked by my doctor if i wanted them. Hell yes was my answer. Normally chuck 50mg down an hour before then one 25mg 15 mins before.
Can't complain getting them on the NHS. Makes a difference if i don't take them. I pop within 10 minutes without. Can last 2 hours with them.

[LL]

I was asked by my doctor if i wanted them. Hell yes was my answer. Normally chuck 50mg down an hour before then one 25mg 15 mins before.
Can't complain getting them on the NHS. Makes a difference if i don't take them. I pop within 10 minutes without. Can last 2 hours with them.

That's interesting I didn't know it could be "tweaked" or topped up before the action. Out of interest is that what your doctor advised?

[iceraider]

I think the top up is just for my peace of mind.  The 50mg is probably enough.

[Frenchie]

As I said earlier in this posting, I also'split' the dose.....I find this not only works well but  gives me a bit of confidence .

I've never thought that the tablets would affect my 'coming ' ability..but reading through various postings it seems that it does . I suppose I've never thought about it because it's never been a problem . I find that I stay aroused , but never get to the point of coming until I want to.....oral,penetrative sex feels great but I have to speed things up a bit,-  or concentrate a bit more to come.

I've never had the situation where I couldn't come . I normally decide to come about ten minutes before the time is up .
Maybe I'm lucky or inside my head I've got everything together ... I think going to a regular helps ..although I recently visited a new girl - and again chose exactly when to pop .