It was interesting - and quite an eye-opener how plush it looked inside compared to even the best UK equivalents.
I wouldn't expect the TV company to make a commercial for Paradise but I thought it suspicious that, of 150 girls who worked there, they found the three with the most negative accounts of working there.
I think you could take a camera crew to the best-run office or factory in the world and still find three malcontents.
Also interesting that the place wasn't that busy at times and that even the new place on the border with France (where punting is illegal) hadn't taken off. The market must be completely saturated with 'corner shop' brothels in every town and village.
Overall, the programme didn't make the case that legalised brothels are either better or worse than the alternative approaches - just different.
You know tv producers, they would of interviewed several more girls, but only used the three once edited down.
The figure that outstanded me was the fact that Britain has one fifth of the total number of escorts working in Germany. They said Germany had 400,000 so Britain has 80,000. Does anyone else think that figure is grossly exxhauterated?
The blonde girl wasn't even that negative. She just wasn't happy when she earned €100 for a 12 hour shift. I found her extremely cute. I wonder what the rates are for Paradise. Of the other two girls, one had been a victim of a pimp and the other was just fried and homesick. Given the number of girls that work there, I'd have to agree with you Caveman that they could have found a lot of other girls who are happy to work there but many of them wouldn't want to be on TV.
The brothel on the border of France seemed to be doing badly. Not everyone wants to go to the mega brothel with flashing lights and national broadcasters filming their activities. The first rule of that business should be to always offer the punter discretion.
I'd like to experience one of these places whenever I go to Germany, would be interesting to see how the other side of this trade works.
The blonde Josie is a typical cute German girl, I have met a few like her, they can be a good punt. It's €50 for 30mins, same in most clubs.
Regarding discretion, most of the saunaclubs are either out in the country or in the middle of Industrial estates, as Paradise is, this is rules laid out by local councils, German punters are not overly worried about discretion I'd say, it's a different culture, no puritans telling them sex is wicked.
Even more interesting is the claim that the sex industry in Germany is now valued at a round €18bn about three times that of Britain.
So in principle we have 1/5 the number of escorts but our sex industry is worth 1/3 the value. Conclusion - legalisation in Germany has resulted in market saturation resulting in the cost of punting going down - at least in these brothels. However I found while in Germany looking at indie escort sites they seemed more expensive than back home. I imagine the punts in the brothels are very wham-bam-thank-you-man so maybe the indies play up the GFE/PSE aspects that are missing. No doubt our resident expert Jerboa can comment with a bit more intelligence?
I have now been to Germany for work four times in the last six weeks and still haven't made it to one of these brothels which is an absolute crime - next time I have a trip planned I've decided to take a day's vacation and spend a day at one - purely for research purposes you understand.
Would be interesting to see the result if such brothels ever made it over here, but the reality is public opinion is way too conservative here for it to ever happen.
You can't really generalise, you get good, bad and average punts anywhere, some girls can be fast to try and end sessions, but also many have been very relaxed and happy to take their time, the walk up laufhaus type is usually more of a basic service in out, the indies will try to say they are better and give great service, but it's bullshit, your just paying more because the girls got a photo shopped website.
I watched it yesterday, very impressed with the quality of the premises but the girls did appear to be somewhat jaded, getting fucked by up to 20 punters a day must affect their sanity.
There was no mention of the fees, apart from the 79 Euros entry fee, that rings alarm bells for me, they will obviously try to extract as much as possible from you.
I got the impression that fees were "negotiable", the owner made it clear that he only gets the entrance fees and profit from alcoholic drinks, being a cynic I suspect there is a minimum but no maximum to what they will charge.
Yes you're an old cynic Jimmy lol,
the owner didn't mention how much you pay the girls, because legally he would be skating on thin ice with the German anti pimping laws, that's why the concept in these clubs is to charge a entrance fee to both men and women, the clubs are forbidden to take a cut of the girls earnings. As for what the girls charge, the Fkk concept is universal all over the country, €50 for first 30mins and another €50 for second half/hr, though in most of NRW it's only €25 for second half, there are only a few extras the girls are allowed to charge for, like CIM, anal, WS etc, which are usually €25-€50 more.
I have seen that Michael on German tv, he does a program on RTL2 where he helps poor run brothels improve their business.