Visiting a TS girl in London

[thetomstar]

Hi Folks,

After a little bit of advice if thats ok.  I'm planning to visit a TS girl later this month on a trip to London, a little bit of a fantasy of mine.  (And there aren't any in my part of the country.)

Would you recommend using an agency like External Link/Members Only or trying an independent on sites like External Link/Members Only.  I have used adultwork for most of my punting locally and have found it pretty good on experiences with ladies, but notice this site doesn't specialise in TS girls.

Would be interested on hearing your thoughts or ideas.

Cheers

[dustyj]

Hey Man,

So speaking from absolutely zero experience (but it is too a fantasy of mine) I can say there are a few convincing TS girls on AdultWork.
You just have to click the right search fields. It helps if you click the box saying TS/TV and then one search specifying female, and try another search specifying male.

It would be harder to find a review here on UKP though. As it is a speciality selection.

TS girls do seem to be a tad more expensive then cis-gendered women, maybe cuz their packing a little something extra i don't know. So expect prices to start at £150.

A few TS's I've had my eye on:

External Link/Members Only

External Link/Members Only

External Link/Members Only

External Link/Members Only


As mentioned above, i haven't actually pulled the trigger on any of this yet, so proceed with caution. And whatever you do, I'd love to know how it turns out for ya.

[Kellog]

You are Bi. 100% A straight male wouldn't dream of doing that.

[dustyj]

You are Bi. 100% A straight male wouldn't dream of doing that.

I'm of the notion that sexuality isn't bi-nary (ha, see what I did there?).
Clearly we're more complicated creatures then an A,B,C multiple choice questionnaire.

[HighlyMotivated]

You are Bi. 100% A straight male wouldn't dream of doing that.

Do you think all gay men are attracted to transsexuals?

[Kellog]

LOL, what a SJW way of thinking. IF you know it's a man. then u r attracted to men.

You would be in denial.

No real man would do that.

[Kellog]

Do you think all gay men are attracted to transsexuals?

No, you fail to see the point m8, but seeing as you come up with that, you're clearly in denial.

It's a man. A straight male, is not attracted to men.  Therefore if u like ladybois, ur a bisexual

Nothing wrong with it. u just have to recognise it.

[HighlyMotivated]

No, you fail to see the point m8, but seeing as you come up with that, you're clearly in denial.

It's a man. A straight male, is not attracted to men.  Therefore if u like ladybois, ur a bisexual

Nothing wrong with it. u just have to recognise it.

You seem quite militantly adamant about this... sure it's not you in denial?    all I did was ask you a question

If all gay men are not attracted to transsexuals, then that means being attracted to a man and being attracted to a TS is not the same thing. Common sense really.

[Jimmyredcab]

You seem quite militantly adamant about this... sure it's not you in denial?    all I did was ask you a question

If all gay men are not attracted to transsexuals, then that means being attracted to a man and being attracted to a TS is not the same thing. Common sense really.

Correct.
A shirtlifter once told me that he has no interest in transexuals.     

[Kellog]

You seem quite militantly adamant about this... sure it's not you in denial?    all I did was ask you a question

If all gay men are not attracted to transsexuals, then that means being attracted to a man and being attracted to a TS is not the same thing. Common sense really.

it does not mate.
TS are men. Biologically. that is a fact, you cannot deny that,  your point comes across as pedantic..
Therefore if u like them, that means that men are on your radar m8.  cus they are TS, well that allows you to deny it to yourself. you're a bi/gay man. end of story,
of course all gays arent attarcted but some are, so you sound like you are annoyed m8.

[Kellog]

Anway, it's clear you would never admit that, but it is common sense really. i hope you come to realise that denyng it is a one way street for you.

Good day.

[HighlyMotivated]

it does not mate.
TS are men. Biologically. that is a fact, you cannot deny that,  your point comes across as pedantic..
Therefore if u like them, that means that men are on your radar m8.  cus they are TS, well that allows you to deny it to yourself. you're a bi/gay man. end of story,
of course all gays arent attarcted but some are, so you sound like you are annoyed m8.

I'm not denying that they are biologically men. I'm telling you that being attracted to a TS and gay person is not the same thing. Ask anyone with a brain and they will tell you the same

Not sure why you keep insisting I'm bi, I personally have no intestest in men or TS but if I did I'd be happy to admit it. You on the other hand... 

[Bud$]

I might be wrong but I didn't think the OP's question concerned the nature of his sexuality. I read it as him asking for advice about visiting a TS. The first 2 posts were relevant, the rest are not - the rest seem to be trying to prompt a discussion about homosexuality. bi-sexuality and being totally straight. Unless, I'm wrong and he is asking us to give him advice on his sexual preferences. Here's my 2-pennies worth then. I think it would be an interesting experience - go for it - I've done it a few times and enjoyed it, but haven't been to see a TS in the UK for a number of years. the one I went to, twice, had had all the ops, and I didn't realise that she used to be fully male until my 2nd visit. It didn't worry me at all. I don't know anything about the ones he might see - but I've recently been looking at TS's myself on AW with a view. I'd only go to one who'd reached the 3rd stage, however. I think the sight of male genitalia would put me, but there again it might not - it didn't when I tried it in Thailand anyway. But I do need the breasts. No breasts would probably be a 'no' for me. The Thai ladyboys and the Brazilians seem to be the best for the TS stuff; more ingrained in their culture??? Dunno - I'm just speculating.

[Kellog]

I'm not denying that they are biologically men. I'm telling you that being attracted to a TS and gay person is not the same thing. Ask anyone with a brain and they will tell you the same

Not sure why you keep insisting I'm bi, I personally have no intestest in men or TS but if I did I'd be happy to admit it. You on the other hand... 

Le tme jus tcome back to this one more time.
You clearly need to think about this more. I get the feeling you are a weak willed man. anyway, they are attarcted to ts, knowing they are men. this is homosexuality. the fact they look like women is a way they can hide it and pretend its a woman. end of story.

[HighlyMotivated]

Le tme jus tcome back to this one more time.
You clearly need to think about this more. I get the feeling you are a weak willed man. anyway, they are attarcted to ts, knowing they are men. this is homosexuality. the fact they look like women is a way they can hide it and pretend its a woman. end of story.

What the fuck 

I think you are attracted to both men and TS, that's why you believe they are the same thing   

[Kellog]

What the fuck 

I think you are attracted to both men and TS, that's why you believe they are the same thing   

I'm not though am I?

A Ts is a man whos changed their appearance to a woman. IS it not? Can you not understand that, the fact u think its possible to transform from a biological man to a biological woman shows ur denial doesn't it?

Cus by ur logic, going with a TS, ur still a straight male 

I know, youve been with one haven't u?

[HighlyMotivated]

I'm not though am I?

A Ts is a man whos changed their appearance to a woman. IS it not? Can you not understand that, the fact u think its possible to transform from a biological man to a biological woman shows ur denial doesn't it?

Cus by ur logic, going with a TS, ur still a straight male 

I know, youve been with one haven't u?

Where did I say a biological man can become a biological woman? You're putting words in my mouth because you've lost the real argument

When it comes to sexual gratification, a TS is not a man or a  woman, it's a TS. Its a third option. Why are all gay men not attracted to TS? Can you answer that?

As I said, the only reason you think they're the same is because you're attracted to both 

[Bud$]

To Kellogg and highly motivated - could you please start your discussion again in a new topic all of your own? It could be called,
"Why men who want to see transexuals are really gay" or alternatively, ""Why men who want to see transexuals are NOT really gay"
or carry on with your discussion, if you must.

[HighlyMotivated]

To Kellogg and highly motivated - could you please start your discussion again in a new topic all of your own? It could be called,
"Why men who want to see transexuals are really gay" or alternatively, ""Why men who want to see transexuals are NOT really gay"
or carry on with your discussion, if you must.

Can't I'm afraid, he's been banned 

[Bud$]

Can't I'm afraid, he's been banned 

That's a shame but at least the normal one of the 2 of you hasn't been!!!   

[BillGoldberg]

Gay, straight, big....?
Who gives a shit??

OP just wanted punting advice, not a pointless, circular argument on the subject of human sexuality and 'cast iron' labels

[Bud$]

Gay, straight, big....?
Who gives a shit??

OP just wanted punting advice, not a pointless, circular argument on the subject of human sexuality and 'cast iron' labels

+555 I don't know what 555 means but O think it's I agree, well said or summit like that in which case, I agree, well said

[juzz]

+555 I don't know what 555 means but O think it's I agree, well said or summit like that in which case, I agree, well said

555 is the Thai version of lol in a text conversation. "5" in Thai is pronounced "ha," so three of them would be "hahaha." External Link/Members Only)

Sorry, getting off topic.

[Jonestown]

Would you recommend using an agency like External Link/Members Only or trying an independent on sites like External Link/Members Only.

I wouldn't trust Backpage for anything, of the two I'd start with the agency.

Over the last six months or so there has been discussion of various TS providers on here, have you done a search, might be worth it.

[Bud$]

555 is the Thai version of lol in a text conversation. "5" in Thai is pronounced "ha," so three of them would be "hahaha." External Link/Members Only)

Sorry, getting off topic.

Not at all - that's a great piece of info and that's where I picked it up from actually Thailand / Thai girls texting etc.

[Bud$]

Correct.
A shirtlifter once told me that he has no interest in transexuals.     

You've made the classic error of drawing a general conclusion from one example; i.e.. because one person of a particular type told you something once it must mean that all people of that type think the same way. This assumes that:- (a) that person has never had a different opinion and (b) that he isn't going to change his mind tomorrow, next week, next month etc. and (c) that all people of his type think the same way.
Example:- if I saw an Hungarian driving a chocolate coloured Rolls Royce and therefore concluded that all Hungarians drove chocolate coloured Rolls Royces, I would be doing the same as you have done here, Jimmy.

[Jonestown]

Can't I'm afraid, he's been banned 

That's a shame, he had an interesting point of view and a unique way with the English language.

[HighlyMotivated]

You've made the classic error of drawing a general conclusion from one example; i.e.. because one person of a particular type told you something once it must mean that all people of that type think the same way. This assumes that:- (a) that person has never had a different opinion and (b) that he isn't going to change his mind tomorrow, next week, next month etc. and (c) that all people of his type think the same way.
Example:- if I saw an Hungarian driving a chocolate coloured Rolls Royce and therefore concluded that all Hungarians drove chocolate coloured Rolls Royces, I would be doing the same as you have done here, Jimmy.

Aren't you the one that was moaning that we were off topic earlier?

His example is valid because it supports that men and transsexuals are not the same (obvious as it sounds), otherwise all gay men would be open to the idea of being attracted to both men and transsexuals, which most are not

Your rolls Royce example is not really the same thing is it?

[thetomstar]

I appreciate your comments following my post, including the ones about my sexuality, cheers Kellog.  To put it straight (so to speak), I am a heterosexual male who has no interest in men what so ever, although I agree that by saying I am interested in the idea of exploring a sexual encounter with a TS girl, that does make me a little bi, but who cares. 

My ideal TS, and the only one I would be interested in, would be as natural a women as possible, in answer to a previous post, yes would need breasts and attractive features.  Flat chested would be too close to a man for me.  So as close to a women as possible, but with the added interest of something downstairs.

I will let you know how I get one.

Any more info though, please share.  In the meantime I will hunt some more for other threads.

Cheers

[Jonestown]

I agree that by saying I am interested in the idea of exploring a sexual encounter with a TS girl, that does make me a little bi, but who cares. 

 So as close to a women as possible, but with the added interest of something downstairs.

If it's the added interest downstairs that's catching your attention, I'd say that's definitely a bi perspective, and you'd probably be better going to Thailand to find what your looking for, rather than say, Romford.

[Bud$]

Your rolls Royce example is not really the same thing is it?

It is a valid example of the error he was making. When someone finds analytical thought difficult it is necessary to make a counter argument as simplistic as possible. however, the truth is this; human sexuality is not a constant. It is subject to cultural and social pressures and sexual preferences can also change during the lifetime of an individual. It is a spectrum and we all find our place along that spectrum at different times in our lives. Example; an adolescent male who because of social pressures regards himself as totally heterosexual may well have conflicting feelings. He may be a 'macho' type but may also be afraid of his sexuality and confused. This fear and confusion may come out in him taking part in physical sports, such as rugby, which involves a lot of body to body contact with other males, showering together and bonding strongly. This could be his 'homosexual' phase and he may outgrow it or change and as time goes by he may, by the age of say, 30, be happily married in a relationship with a female and enjoy sex with her. He would then be called straight by our society. However, by the time he is 45 he may decide that he is really female and have an operation to become so. It happens. There are many examples of this. If you would like to know more visit the transgender clinic at Charring Cross hospital. He will see there rugby players, plumbers and yes, even cab drivers!

[fredpunter]

It is a valid example of the error he was making. When someone finds analytical thought difficult it is necessary to make a counter argument as simplistic as possible. however, the truth is this; human sexuality is not a constant. It is subject to cultural and social pressures and sexual preferences can also change during the lifetime of an individual. It is a spectrum and we all find our place along that spectrum at different times in our lives. Example; an adolescent male who because of social pressures regards himself as totally heterosexual may well have conflicting feelings. He may be a 'macho' type but may also be afraid of his sexuality and confused. This fear and confusion may come out in him taking part in physical sports, such as rugby, which involves a lot of body to body contact with other males, showering together and bonding strongly. This could be his 'homosexual' phase and he may outgrow it or change and as time goes by he may, by the age of say, 30, be happily married in a relationship with a female and enjoy sex with her. He would then be called straight by our society. However, by the time he is 45 he may decide that he is really female and have an operation to become so. It happens. There are many examples of this. If you would like to know more visit the transgender clinic at Charring Cross hospital. He will see there rugby players, plumbers and yes, even cab drivers!

I know exactly what you mean - I cant decide whether I prefer red-heads or brunettes or black girls and it does change nearly every day. Thankfully I am clear that I never want to be near another blokes naked cock.

[HighlyMotivated]

It is a valid example of the error he was making. When someone finds analytical thought difficult it is necessary to make a counter argument as simplistic as possible. however, the truth is this; human sexuality is not a constant. It is subject to cultural and social pressures and sexual preferences can also change during the lifetime of an individual. It is a spectrum and we all find our place along that spectrum at different times in our lives. Example; an adolescent male who because of social pressures regards himself as totally heterosexual may well have conflicting feelings. He may be a 'macho' type but may also be afraid of his sexuality and confused. This fear and confusion may come out in him taking part in physical sports, such as rugby, which involves a lot of body to body contact with other males, showering together and bonding strongly. This could be his 'homosexual' phase and he may outgrow it or change and as time goes by he may, by the age of say, 30, be happily married in a relationship with a female and enjoy sex with her. He would then be called straight by our society. However, by the time he is 45 he may decide that he is really female and have an operation to become so. It happens. There are many examples of this. If you would like to know more visit the transgender clinic at Charring Cross hospital. He will see there rugby players, plumbers and yes, even cab drivers!

I don't disagree with any of that... but what on earth does it have to do with what we are talking about? The question is whether a straight male who takes a sexual interest in a TS person is bi/gay. The answer IMO is "not necessarily"

[BillGoldberg]

I appreciate your comments following my post, including the ones about my sexuality, cheers Kellog.  To put it straight (so to speak), I am a heterosexual male who has no interest in men what so ever, although I agree that by saying I am interested in the idea of exploring a sexual encounter with a TS girl, that does make me a little bi, but who cares. 

My ideal TS, and the only one I would be interested in, would be as natural a women as possible, in answer to a previous post, yes would need breasts and attractive features.  Flat chested would be too close to a man for me.  So as close to a women as possible, but with the added interest of something downstairs.

I will let you know how I get one.

Any more info though, please share.  In the meantime I will hunt some more for other threads.

Cheers

As you've no doubt discovered, this probably isn't the best forum for open minded discussion on your interests

If I were you I'd seek out a dedicated TS fancier site to scratch that quite specific itch

So far your initial question seems to have lead to silly, pointless arguments,  a ban, 'witty' comments and zero useful information for you, that might be a clue

 

[Jonestown]

The question is whether a straight male who takes a sexual interest in a TS person is bi/gay. The answer IMO is "not necessarily"

If the TS is pre-op then IMO the answer is bi, irrespective of what services are sought.

If the TS is post-op you might get away with the Pete Townsend excuse, - I was just doing research.

[Bud$]

I don't disagree with any of that... but what on earth does it have to do with what we are talking about? The question is whether a straight male who takes a sexual interest in a TS person is bi/gay. The answer IMO is "not necessarily"

HM I think the original point of this thread is which TS to go and see in London. I'd also like to know that.

[thetomstar]

I'm still a couple of weeks away from visiting London, so who knows, I may bottle it as yet, although I'd like to think not.  But if I do I can always rely on a fun few hours at The Phoenix Club, have visited once when they were near Hyde Park and once when they were LMP.  Again, something not available round were I live, so always fun to try something different. 

(And no to those thinking, I won't just be looking at the guys todgers.  I hope your not thinking anyone at a party is bi too?  Just because there are  naked men with erections and your in the same room with them?  Yes there are guys with there dicks out, and your certainly watching the action, thats the fun, it's more the exciting group experience thats the turn on, and the thrill of having sex with multiple girls.  I obviously see the distinct line between watching couples have sex and having sex with a ts girl).  But no doubt we'll talk about that again.

   

[ManOFSteel]

Hey Man,

So speaking from absolutely zero experience (but it is too a fantasy of mine) I can say there are a few convincing TS girls on AdultWork.
You just have to click the right search fields. It helps if you click the box saying TS/TV and then one search specifying female, and try another search specifying male.

It would be harder to find a review here on UKP though. As it is a speciality selection.

TS girls do seem to be a tad more expensive then cis-gendered women, maybe cuz their packing a little something extra i don't know. So expect prices to start at £150.

A few TS's I've had my eye on:

External Link/Members Only

External Link/Members Only

External Link/Members Only

External Link/Members Only


As mentioned above, i haven't actually pulled the trigger on any of this yet, so proceed with caution. And whatever you do, I'd love to know how it turns out for ya.

Very good post. They look like good prospects.