Any helpful foods/drinks?

[Home Alone]

I put a longer version of this title in the Search box and got no reply. So what I'm looking for are the names of any food or drinks to assist my Cialis (Tadalafil) when I go a-punting next week.

Truth is I'm a bit nervous; it'll be the first time in a lo-o-ong time that I've seen a new-to-me SP; I don't think I've seen anyone I've never seen previously since before the first lockdown was imposed. So, I don't want Mr. Floppy to make an appearance.

As I say, I'm probably over-thinking things; and I'm sure I've seen helpful tips over the years on here. One that I vaguely recall was fresh Pineapple juice; so, of course, I bought a litre of it in the supermarket yesterday! But the names of any other foodstuffs/drinks that you guys can recommend, will be gratefully received.

[FiveKnuckles]

I've tried some of the ingredients in the 'cum holy grail' and here's my thoughts: YMMV.

Zinc 50mg - makes cum milky white.

Lecithin - 1200mg daily did build a 'thicker' load. I used Soy Lecithin and others swear by Sunflower Lecithin. Take 3x 1200mg gels the night before and 6x 1200mg the morning of punt, you'll be throwing thick hoops of the stuff! 

Pygeum - didn't bother as it cost too much and I wasn't bothered about pre-cum

L-Arginine - avoid if you have cold sores.

Water is the biggest factor.  Drink your 2.5litres daily.

[Home Alone]

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Lecithin - 1200mg daily did build a 'thicker' load. I used Soy Lecithin and others swear by Sunflower Lecithin. Take 3x 1200mg gels the night before and 6x 1200mg the morning of punt, you'll be throwing thick hoops of the stuff!

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Bloody hell, FiveKnuckles; I wish I'd known that much earlier in my "punting career"!! I should have paid much closer attention to this type of thread years ago.   

Presumably I can get the gel from a health food shop??

I'm in your debt, sir!

[southcoastpunter]

One that I vaguely recall was fresh Pineapple juice; so, of course, I bought a litre of it in the supermarket yesterday!

i thought pineapple juice was one to avoid - i think i am right in saying that doctors tell you not to drink it near to taking (medical) tablets as it can weaken their effect!

[JD1]

Grapefruit juice is the one they say to avoid when taking viagra or cialis, although that would be enough to put me off having any fruit juices close to taking a dose.

Caffeine can also lessen the effects.

If you’re asking about food/drink to boost the effects - the best bet is an empty stomach and to only drink water before hand.

[FiveKnuckles]

Presumably I can get the gel from a health food shop??

Don't bank on Lecithin as the holy grail.  May not work for everyone 

Unsure if they sell them in H&B but you'll be paying premium if they do stock them.

If you have Amz0n prime, it's worth checking their prices.  I got my gel caps from peaksupps and supplemented UK, with free delivery.  With the RM strikes I doubt you'll receive before Xmas.


pineapple juice is to make the cum sweeter/tastier for the girl to swallow. 🤤 Depends if your planning CIM.


*Avoid grapefruit juice.  Read the leaflet that came with your meds. 

[daviemac]

i thought pineapple juice was one to avoid - i think i am right in saying that doctors tell you not to drink it near to taking (medical) tablets as it can weaken their effect!

Grapefruit juice is the one to avoid if you're taking Simvastatin, it tells you on the leaflet that comes with them but the pharmacist also print it on the label they stick on to make sure you see it.

[Razor Boy]

Depending on the time of day you have the punt , I find a light breakfast ( scrambled egg on toast/ bran flakes and banana or small bowl of porridge etc) some fruit at lunchtime, pill two hours before and a protein shake on the way to the punt works perfect for a 3pm session. Obviously amend for a differing punt time.
I also take paracetamol with the punting pill to kill any headache and a squirt up the hooter of Vicks Sinex Soother to get rid of the blocked nose that punting pills can give.
Always ensures I’m feeling match fit for the session 

[Hobbit]

Whisky always helps me but not too much. Alcohol always makes me horny.

[EUGENE TACKLEBERRY]

Water melon, Morello cherries for hard on

Celery for spaff content

[Al R]

Lecithin definitely works for me but I never take more than two per day (one morning, one evening) as that dosage does the job.

[PLeisure]

My understanding is that you should avoid L-Arginine if you are taking ED medication.

Please consult your Cialis leaflet.

Enjoy the punt, HA 

[Fuzzyduck]

Lots of good advice there HA. I can only add to have a good night's sleep and not to fret too much. Anxiety is a boner killer for sure.
Hope you have a good one!

[Marmalade]

There's a long thread -- or more than one thread -- on here about l-arginine.
I may have posted the technical diagrams from the medical press somewhere or you can search for the data.

In simple terms, nitric oxide is synthesised from L-arginine. Nitric oxide is ultimately responsible for various functions including production of a hard-on. It does this via an enzyme called cGMP. The process is called the cGMP pathway. Sildenafil enters the pathway at much later stage. It effectively increases the levels of cGMP. But if the body is low on nitric oxide it has fuck all to work with. Consequently this is why sildenafil has little effect for some people. L-arginine ingested in sufficient quantities (ideally with a smaller amount of l-citrullline) can ensure that there is enough nitric oxide, and therefore cGMP, for the sildenafil to be very effective.

L-arginine is an amino acid. The easiest way to take it is as a powder which dissolves in water. You can buy a tub of it which will come with a measure. It smells rubbish but you can add a few drops of fruit juice to take the smell away. You do it before you take the sildenafil (Viagra etc) – though as it works faster, the timing is not ridiculously crucial. 6g (not mg) is standard quantity, ideally with 3g of l-citrulline, You don't have to have the l-citrulline but they work better together. Most people use a small 'shots' bottle to shake it up with water.

You can find several examples on UKP of people who have used or use it regularly. I've also tried it myself.

What won't do much good is taking a capsule or too. That's not enough to make difference, at least for ED. IT might help with other things. Nor will it necessarily help if your body already produces a strong nitric oxide supply (I expect it declines with age).

If you want something that's less faff you could try tongkat ali. I've had great results with that but only using a top brand. Most is fake. Search it and you can find my posts on it and other concoctions. Most other things have little effect or a placebo effect only or no effect at all. Disclaimer: this is not medical advice. If there are any medics on the board you can look up the data or PM me if you get stuck. I suggest anyone does at least a bit of research to convince themselves before going to the hassle of buying it.

[lillythesavage]

i thought pineapple juice was one to avoid - i think i am right in saying that doctors tell you not to drink it near to taking (medical) tablets as it can weaken their effect!

I think that maybe Grapefruit, Pineapple makes it taste good  , so I am told 

[Marmalade]

Cialis (Tadalafil) when I go a-punting next week.

Why Cialis? Are you doing a super long punt? Otherwise most people find sildenafil better for rock-harders. But if you've already indulged it's not that different.

[Marmalade]

I think that maybe Grapefruit,

Yep. Big long list. But most not classed as severe interactions. Just don't make a habit of it sort of thing. The doctor will probably have mentioned it when prescribing.
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[Marmalade]

My understanding is that you should avoid L-Arginine if you are taking ED medication.

Arginine interactions:
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Sildenafil is mentioned with regards a number of meds as are most things. More to be aware of not, just as you must be careful with sildenafil/cialis anyway if you have low blood pressure (with or without blood-pressure drugs). It's not massive. If you have low BP and are taking sildenafil then there's no need to push your luck!

When you look up interactions in any table they are often classed as serious, moderate, mild, and whether the evidence is just theoretical or not. Most doctors only say anything if the interaction is potential serious. If in doubt, ask you GP as always...

[Sunny]

Don’t take any pills

I eat pickled sliced beetroot, water melon, pomegranate and tend to get rock hard girthy erections.

Foods high in nitric oxide.

Tongkat Ali which brand would you recommend purchasing? So many out there don’t know which ones are genuine or not

[Marmalade]

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Tongkat Ali which brand would you recommend purchasing? So many out there don’t know which ones are genuine or not

Only the big names. One sample doesn’t mean that the next one will be good. But worth experimenting usually are ones like Mind Nutrition, Life Extension, Nootropics Depot and External Link/Members Only are usually ok for supplements and cheaper. These are solid companies. I think I’ve used the last two for Tongkat. Relentless Improvement are also usually reliable. These are people known to get independent testing done one their products. But they might not have Tongkat all the time.

Bulk Powders have been good for loose arginine & citrulline.
Not to be confused with Bulk Supplements which is a company I avoid.

[Marmalade]

Just checked…

I got Tognkat Ali 60x100mg (10% Eurycomanone) from Nootropics Depot, £38.80 including shipping. That was last year.

The Piping Rock stuff looks suspiciously cheap.

[sensualencounter]

I find that my state of mind is the biggest factor. If I’ve got a lot on my plate and / or I’m tired (usually they coincide) then that can affect my hard on. And the escort needs to be attractive (to me) as well as not giving off any shitty vibes.

Unfortunately, I’m not one of these people who can easily switch off so for me there’s no easy quick solution. Although I also believe that all these supplements and foods won’t have an immediate effect either. Their efficacy will come from longer term usage.

[Sunny]

Just checked…

I got Tognkat Ali 60x100mg (10% Eurycomanone) from Nootropics Depot, £38.80 including shipping. That was last year.

The Piping Rock stuff looks suspiciously cheap.

Thanks, I see Dr Andrew Huberman recommended Solaray Tongkat Ali. On Fruugo you can get 60caps 400mg (pack of 3) for £21.95 + £12.99 shipping

[Marmalade]

Thanks, I see Dr Andrew Huberman recommended Solaray Tongkat Ali. On Fruugo you can get 60caps 400mg (pack of 3) for £21.95 + £12.99 shipping

With what evidence? I'd stick with Nootropics Depot if I were you.

ND actually do research and have better Certificates of Analysis that Solaray.
(This is not to say Solaray aren't ok for easier products)

[Marmalade]

I find that my state of mind is the biggest factor. If I’ve got a lot on my plate and / or I’m tired (usually they coincide) then that can affect my hard on. And the escort needs to be attractive (to me) as well as not giving off any shitty vibes.

Unfortunately, I’m not one of these people who can easily switch off so for me there’s no easy quick solution. Although I also believe that all these supplements and foods won’t have an immediate effect either. Their efficacy will come from longer term usage.

Indeed. I think the shitty can be a big factor. It's one of the reasons that some people like a small drink beforehand.
As for foods and supplements and speed of effect, it depends. Some are indeed long term. Whereas others have an immediate impact.

[s0whatsnew?]

Don't bank on Lecithin as the holy grail.  May not work for everyone 

I get my Lecithin from Brazil nuts.  Half a large nut a day works for me.   Cheapest place to get it is Lidl.  200g £1.99

[jseop109]

Is there any evidence that these supplements work at all, for someone on a varied balanced diet? e.g, fish, including oily fish, fresh fruit and veg, fibre, grains such as in porridge etc etc.

Interesting about brazil nuts as a source of lechitin. In general, a variety of nuts and seeds would seem to provide most of the trace minerals and elements needed. I tend to snack on a mixture of nuts and mixed seeds (e.g. from Sainsbury's, containing pumpkin, sunflower, sesame and linseed). But that's just my impression, not hard data.

I haven't been able to find any data on, for example, how much lechitin a brazil nut has as compared with a typical supplement capsule.

Amusing to read, above, of the effect of pineapple juice. Someone must have shown great dedication in reaching that result.

[george r]

L-Arginine -

i tried this yrs ago and almost as good as viagra for me with no side effects for me either
it maybe be different for you though 

[Sunny]

With what evidence? I'd stick with Nootropics Depot if I were you.

ND actually do research and have better Certificates of Analysis that Solaray.
(This is not to say Solaray aren't ok for easier products)

Dr Andrew Huberman talks about it from 5:45mins External Link/Members Only

[Sunny]

He did mention you need to consume enough saturated fats for these supplements to be effective.
You have to make sure you are buying the root part (non-toxic) of Tongkat Ali only, not the whole plant but manufacturers use the whole plant to save on costs.

[s0whatsnew?]

Is there any evidence that these supplements work at all, for someone on a varied balanced diet? e.g, fish, including oily fish, fresh fruit and veg, fibre, grains such as in porridge etc etc.

Interesting about brazil nuts as a source of lechitin. In general, a variety of nuts and seeds would seem to provide most of the trace minerals and elements needed. I tend to snack on a mixture of nuts and mixed seeds (e.g. from Sainsbury's, containing pumpkin, sunflower, sesame and linseed). But that's just my impression, not hard data.

I haven't been able to find any data on, for example, how much lechitin a brazil nut has as compared with a typical supplement capsule.

Amusing to read, above, of the effect of pineapple juice. Someone must have shown great dedication in reaching that result.

I started my Brazil nut love affair about 6/7 years ago for prostate probs  (peeing difficulty)  on the suggestion of a  naturopath friend of a friend.  I haven't needed to up my intake since starting with it.  That does say to me  that its plenty effective.    I pee for England with ease and a smile.   My experience that it works is all the evidence i need;  for me, at any rate, and therefore quite possibly for others.   

  As to sexual performance, well i haven't yet needed meds natural or otherwise.   (that said, have slowed down a lot on frequency of cummability)   Of course that may well change at any time.

[Marmalade]

Is there any evidence that these supplements work at all

Which supplement(s)? And which age group?

Re Andrew Huberman: does he cite a study specifically using Solaray? (sorry I didn't watch the whole video).

By 'evidence' I mean peer-reviewed papers. Even then, evidence is graded, sample size, placebo-controlled, double blind or not, primary or secondary, theoretical, in vitro, on humans or animal studies, and did the researchers have any links suggesting possible bias. The study should state how the supplement used was obtained, the manufacturer. For a particular brand, an independent certificate of analysis listing the active components (which is strictly only good or that batch, but a good indicator for the company producing it).

In a simple sentence, there's pretty good evidence for l-arginine, for certain populations and dosages.
There's quite a lot of papers on tongkat ali but I would say strongly suggestive but less conclusive. The main problem (I think it was ConsumerLab or Labdoor that pointed it out if I remember correctly) was that the large majority of samples of Tongkat Ali which were tested in the laboratory contained none of the genuine article. The difficulty in obtaining it seems to encourage counterfeits.

[Home Alone]

Thanks to all of you for your suggestions.

Memo to self: Do NOT start a new thread on this subject so close to the day of the event! It's highly unlikely that any courses of action will lead to me having a boner on Monday afternoon.

And I fear that some of the replies may have been Sildenafil-specific when I pointed out in the OP that I now take Tadalafil. As it was my GP who'd originally prescribed Sildenafil - I'd implied the lass I regularly saw every Sunday afternoon at Arabesque (I know; I know!) was my gf - so when that began to be less effective, I went back to the Health Centre and saw a trainee GP, who went back to the Formulary and came up with the Tadalafil diagnosis on which I currently rely. And I should have explained that I'm completely unaware of the different ways those two medications work.

Because I'm an old fogey who is, shall we say, reluctant to adopt 21st Century ways of shopping like Amazon; but in the current climate, has difficulty getting to town centre shops; I haven't any way of acquiring supplements and, even if I did, I can't see me being sufficiently hard-on on Monday afternoon.

So I shall stick to avoiding grapefruit juice and - with more difficulty - coffee; and upping my water intake.

And, above all, rely on the SP dressing, and acting, sexily. And this old man's "old man" responding appropriately! Review to follow, obvs.

[JD1]

In terms of avoiding coffee - this is an interesting one and I should probably expand on what I meant by this. There are actually arguments for both coffee helping with and being harmful with ED.

There is research that correlates regular consumption of coffee with being less likely to have ED.

However, one of the ways ED meds work is by lowering blood pressure whereas caffeine increases blood pressure.

Anecdotally I used to drink a coffee as part of my pre-punt ritual to give me an energy boost but ditched this and found I perform better without it.

Caffeine typically wears off after a few hours so I just avoid it in the hours prior if I can.

[Thephoenix]

Thanks to all of you for your suggestions.

Memo to self: Do NOT start a new thread on this subject so close to the day of the event! It's highly unlikely that any courses of action will lead to me having a boner on Monday afternoon.

And I fear that some of the replies may have been Sildenafil-specific when I pointed out in the OP that I now take Tadalafil. As it was my GP who'd originally prescribed Sildenafil - I'd implied the lass I regularly saw every Sunday afternoon at Arabesque (I know; I know!) was my gf - so when that began to be less effective, I went back to the Health Centre and saw a trainee GP, who went back to the Formulary and came up with the Tadalafil diagnosis on which I currently rely. And I should have explained that I'm completely unaware of the different ways those two medications work.

Because I'm an old fogey who is, shall we say, reluctant to adopt 21st Century ways of shopping like Amazon; but in the current climate, has difficulty getting to town centre shops; I haven't any way of acquiring supplements and, even if I did, I can't see me being sufficiently hard-on on Monday afternoon.

So I shall stick to avoiding grapefruit juice and - with more difficulty - coffee; and upping my water intake.

And, above all, rely on the SP dressing, and acting, sexily. And this old man's "old man" responding appropriately! Review to follow, obvs.

Well you could always follow your ma's advice and eat your spinach.
It worked for Popeye and the gorgeous Olive.
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Good luck!

[Home Alone]

Phoenix, you're incorrigible!!   

[holeymoley]

Yep. Big long list. But most not classed as severe interactions. Just don't make a habit of it sort of thing. The doctor will probably have mentioned it when prescribing.
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According to my pharmacist & GP taking grapefruit juice whilst on Lisinopril/Zestril meds can be downright dangerous as it can multiply effect by up to 40 times. A minimum of 5 hours between ingestion of each advised. In this particular instance Lisinopril is being used to control ( lower ) blood pressure.

[Marmalade]

According to my pharmacist & GP taking grapefruit juice whilst on Lisinopril/Zestril meds can be downright dangerous as it can multiply effect by up to 40 times. A minimum of 5 hours between ingestion of each advised. In this particular instance Lisinopril is being used to control ( lower ) blood pressure.

Well those are different drugs to the ones that were being discussed. Always follow what your GP says. The pharmacist on the other hand doesn’t know your full history and will err on the side of caution.

All other things being equal your GP will be guided by BNF. You can look those interactions up yourself as well for a general idea. If in doubt raise the question with your GP.

[Marmalade]

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I imagine the squeezing is also beneficial — though squeezing and catching it in your gob may take sustained practice.

[Marmalade]

Much as I love my fresh coffee, I sometimes prefer DHEA if I feel too sedentary to fuck. (This is not a general recommendation — check it out yourself if interested. It can affect libido positively to a small extent but it’s hormonal constituent can interact with other stuff. You can buy it from Amazon but use with great care.)

Too much coffee can make you hyper and shakey. Even worse IMO is the p4p on a Red Bull high. If you like your coffee but feel too hyper afterwards, l-theanine, an amino acid, works synergistically with caffeine to maintain the mental alertness but overcome the negative effects.

If the OP is simply a bit nervous before getting in the saddle again, he might look into ashwagandha KSM. This is an ‘adaptogen’ that many people find helpful to relax socially or before sex.

This is a discussion thread. None of it should be taken as general advice for everyone.

[Home Alone]

I imagine the squeezing is also beneficial — though squeezing and catching it in your gob may take sustained practice.

      

[Home Alone]

And the law of Sod has intervened!   

Yesterday, lured by the forecast of improving weather, I decided to go and do some shopping at the supermarket. Only as I made my way from the - cleared - path outside our flats to the taxi which I'd booked to get me there, the icy surface underfoot saw my walking stick give way and leave me on my arse on the icy pavement. It feels like I've pulled a muscle in that leg and experience has taught me that it'll take 10-14 days for me to feel confident enough to make the journey to the SP's flat.

So I've sent her an AW email to say that I'm sorry but I won't be able to make it until the new year. At least that'll give me some time to re-read this thread and see about ordering some of these here substances which will make the meeting a memorable one for both of us.

A Review will follow in due course.

[JD1]

Sorry to hear mate, the icy conditions at the moment are a nightmare for walking.

Hope you feel better!

[Home Alone]

Thanks, JD! 

It's a lesson learned the hard way; bum, bum! (Or should that be, "boom, boom?!")

[Thephoenix]

And the law of Sod has intervened!   

Yesterday, lured by the forecast of improving weather, I decided to go and do some shopping at the supermarket. Only as I made my way from the - cleared - path outside our flats to the taxi which I'd booked to get me there, the icy surface underfoot saw my walking stick give way and leave me on my arse on the icy pavement. It feels like I've pulled a muscle in that leg and experience has taught me that it'll take 10-14 days for me to feel confident enough to make the journey to the SP's flat.

So I've sent her an AW email to say that I'm sorry but I won't be able to make it until the new year. At least that'll give me some time to re-read this thread and see about ordering some of these here substances which will make the meeting a memorable one for both of us.

A Review will follow in due course.

Oh dear HA!
I hope you got a round of applause from the taxi driver for your double axel and triple salchow
 



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[Home Alone]

5.9 for Artistic impression from the neighbours, Phoenix !    

[Marmalade]

And the law of Sod has intervened!   

Yesterday, lured by the forecast of improving weather, I decided to go and do some shopping at the supermarket. Only as I made my way from the - cleared - path outside our flats to the taxi which I'd booked to get me there, the icy surface underfoot saw my walking stick give way and leave me on my arse on the icy pavement. It feels like I've pulled a muscle in that leg and experience has taught me that it'll take 10-14 days for me to feel confident enough to make the journey to the SP's flat.

So I've sent her an AW email to say that I'm sorry but I won't be able to make it until the new year. At least that'll give me some time to re-read this thread and see about ordering some of these here substances which will make the meeting a memorable one for both of us.

A Review will follow in due course.

Sounds like you may have been lucky actually, for a fall at what I assume is your age group(?) could, I understand, be rather dangerous if you break a bone.

Treating the day as a dry run will have its advantages in many ways I’m sure. All the best.

[Home Alone]

Thank for the good wishes, Marmalade.

Yes, you're right; the accident's given me some time to consider which of the suggested supplements, etc., might allow me to be closer to the 76-year-old stallion I'd like to be!

Cheers! 

[jesse4585]

Great thread HA, lots of info that could be helpful to others too.  I'm going to focus on natural ways to boost testosterone levels.  Which not only helps with sexual performance, but is also an anti-anxiety hormone & helps with spatial awareness - so might reduce the risk of further slips.

1) Eat a balanced diet.  In practical terms: i) Try to be getting 10% or less of your overall calorie intake from sugar. ii) Whole foods like wholemeal bread , pasta, brown rice & vegabtles are especially good. ii) Dont totally cut out fat - some fat is good! iii) Include some meat at least twice a week, and one of the single best foods for testosterone is Prawns (At least in my experience, and from some but not all scientific advise.)

2) Taking a multivitamin & mineral pill can help, though if your diet is already good you probably won't get much extra benefit from taking them daily. Just take a pill once or twice a week, then this gives you a small general health boost and only costs about £20 per year.

There's other natural ways to have better sex outside of food & drink.

3) Exercise & weight training.  Exercising & or weight training 2-3 times per week can make a massive difference.  Though at youre age HA, consult a doctor first or take it extremely easy & build up very slowly if you're not sure.

4) Competitive sports. For many this helps even more than regular excercise. Probably not helpful for you HA, but mentioning for younger punters.  Footy used to be my main sport, later changed to tennis, and already my mates & I are starting on paddle & pickle board as we think they might be gentler on the body once we're in our sixties...

5) Punt!  Men can get a testosterone boost from sex, and especially when it's sex with a new (or newish) woman that you find attractive.   Sex doesnt have to be too regular especially as one gets older, but its best not to have dry spells that last for more than a few months.

6) Sleep.  A good mattress is an overlooked solution by some...

7) Avoid stress. Stress is the biggest testosterone killer.  Avoiding it isnt solely in our control, but there are things one can do like trying not to over extend oneself. And good financial planning can reduce money stress in the long term.

9) Sunlight - not be overdone due to skin cancer risk, but exposure to sunlight helps testosterone levels.

10) Dont drink too much.


While I've had minor performance issues 3 times this year, following the above advise  (except Im not good at avoiding sugar & not always as tea total as I should be) has otherwise enabled me to have good sex without so far needing a single blue pill, & I'm past 50.

[akauya]

And the law of Sod has intervened!   

Yesterday, lured by the forecast of improving weather, I decided to go and do some shopping at the supermarket. Only as I made my way from the - cleared - path outside our flats to the taxi which I'd booked to get me there, the icy surface underfoot saw my walking stick give way and leave me on my arse on the icy pavement. It feels like I've pulled a muscle in that leg and experience has taught me that it'll take 10-14 days for me to feel confident enough to make the journey to the SP's flat.

So I've sent her an AW email to say that I'm sorry but I won't be able to make it until the new year. At least that'll give me some time to re-read this thread and see about ordering some of these here substances which will make the meeting a memorable one for both of us.

A Review will follow in due course.

Sorry to hear that HA.

Hope you feel better soon!